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How about some balance in these classes?

Its clear that WAR has no consideration what so ever to balancing! Its obvious that classes are not balance when "any" melee class can out damage a mage. That is just an obvious flaw in a game.... The squishes class just became the lowest hitting one, *claps*!

 

If you are or will play this game then I suggest one thing.... roll as a melee character or a healer. This game is melee heavy and it just sucks plain out.

 

Population is dropping everyday.... No matter how much they update they don't seem to grasp balancing things....

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  • ManiaCCCManiaCCC Member Posts: 121
    Any melee? Like tanks? Sorry mate, but as magus I am always at top of damage charts with other maguses,sorcs or Squig herders.. Of course, sometimes we are under some good MDPS players but...well.. MDPS classes deserve to has higher damage compared to ranged dps classes. For tanks.. I don't know but I am sure I didn't see tanks toping damage charts for pletty long time.
  • BizkitNLBizkitNL Member RarePosts: 2,546
    Originally posted by lordzenchi


    Its clear that WAR has no consideration what so ever to balancing! Its obvious that classes are not balance when "any" melee class can out damage a mage. That is just an obvious flaw in a game.... The squishes class just became the lowest hitting one, *claps*!
     
    If you are or will play this game then I suggest one thing.... roll as a melee character or a healer. This game is melee heavy and it just sucks plain out.
     
    Population is dropping everyday.... No matter how much they update they don't seem to grasp balancing things....

     

    I disagree on just about everything you typed.

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  • GipooGipoo Member Posts: 7

    WAR is a team game so the balance between teams is much more important than 1v1.

    You can delete your mage if some melee outdps you cus you sux playing mage lol.

    Pop is not dropping.

    Hmm are you sure that you are playing the same game?

  • GodliestGodliest Member Posts: 3,486

    I've on some occasions managed to, as a Blackguard, outdps Bright Wizards and Sorceresses alike but then not because my damage is superior to their, but rather because the casters had something like six deaths and I one. Even so I just do more damage because I mash out AoE damage, whereas the casters can provide strong damage against one player - which usually is by far more significant than just doing small amounts of damage, but AoE. For short: learn how the game works before you try to tell others how it works.

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  • achellisachellis Member Posts: 542

    i love how people complain about balencing, lol who cares if there are a couple over powered class, deal with it and play the game, it just makes the game that more hard and that more fun.

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  • achellisachellis Member Posts: 542

    plus to add to what i said before WAR isnt a 1v1 game its a group PvP so even if that group had 1 over powered class and it was like 5v5 then it would mostly come down to the skills of people that your grouped with.

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  • xaldraxiusxaldraxius Member Posts: 1,249

    You can't balance classes for individual PvP in a group PvP oriented game. It would ruin the entire concept.

  • ParkCarsHereParkCarsHere Member Posts: 666
    Originally posted by achellis


    i love how people complain about balencing, lol who cares if there are a couple over powered class, deal with it and play the game, it just makes the game that more hard and that more fun.

    While I agree that complaining about balancing at this point of the game is stupid, I think you are definitely missing something. In a PvP-centric game, there cannot be a couple of overpowered classes that we have to "deal with" forever.

    There will always be counters, but making the game artificially hard by making underpowered classes fight against overpowered classes is the wrong way to go about it.

  • achellisachellis Member Posts: 542
    Originally posted by ParkCarsHere

    Originally posted by achellis


    i love how people complain about balencing, lol who cares if there are a couple over powered class, deal with it and play the game, it just makes the game that more hard and that more fun.

    While I agree that complaining about balancing at this point of the game is stupid, I think you are definitely missing something. In a PvP-centric game, there cannot be a couple of overpowered classes that we have to "deal with" forever.

    There will always be counters, but making the game artificially hard by making underpowered classes fight against overpowered classes is the wrong way to go about it.



     

    yeah well you also have to think that the Oped class isnt always going to win and underpowered class could win if they had more skill.

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  • ParkCarsHereParkCarsHere Member Posts: 666
    Originally posted by achellis

    Originally posted by ParkCarsHere

    Originally posted by achellis


    i love how people complain about balencing, lol who cares if there are a couple over powered class, deal with it and play the game, it just makes the game that more hard and that more fun.

    While I agree that complaining about balancing at this point of the game is stupid, I think you are definitely missing something. In a PvP-centric game, there cannot be a couple of overpowered classes that we have to "deal with" forever.

    There will always be counters, but making the game artificially hard by making underpowered classes fight against overpowered classes is the wrong way to go about it.



     

    yeah well you also have to think that the Oped class isnt always going to win and underpowered class could win if they had more skill.

    Sure, skill will always have a factor, but sometimes you don't get a chance to use that skill.

    WoW example: Any Retribution Paladin can kill ANY class with ANY amount of health/armor in the duration of their stun (5-7 seconds). Now tell me... if you are the most skilled player in the world, can you kill an OP Ret Paladin if he stuns you?

    So yes, good players can win with underpowered classes, but there shouldn't be an artificial level of difficulty. Balance should always be kept as best as possible, and right now, I believe WAR is balanced.

  • Bruticus_XIBruticus_XI Member Posts: 827

    Go over to Warhammer Alliance and watch the "THIS IS RDPS ONLINE NOT WARHAMMER ONLINE LAWL" whining...contradicts 100% of what you just said.

    Do you have like a level 20? Get to 40 first, it helps...

  • achellisachellis Member Posts: 542

    i dont even play the game but i have played many other mmos with OPed classes/

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  • AmafiAmafi Member Posts: 80

    This game is probably THE most balanced MMO game on the market..In fact if you look closely, you can see that each class has their same abilities somewhere on the opposing team.

    Next, people will be complaining about the level of ability of other players..

     

  • achellisachellis Member Posts: 542
    Originally posted by Amafi


    This game is probably THE most balanced MMO game on the market..In fact if you look closely, you can see that each class has their same abilities somewhere on the opposing team.
    Next, people will be complaining about the level of ability of other players..
     



     

    lol yeah people just need to learn not to complain thats the bottom line.

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  • lordzenchilordzenchi Member Posts: 7
    Originally posted by achellis


    plus to add to what i said before WAR isnt a 1v1 game its a group PvP so even if that group had 1 over powered class and it was like 5v5 then it would mostly come down to the skills of people that your grouped with.

     

    Its funny how you blab about something not even concerning the original post. Its fine if its unbalance? OMG how much of a noob can u get? Just ask the games that failed and bombed how important class balancing is to a game... you under-estimate everything.

  • lordzenchilordzenchi Member Posts: 7

    Sry but im not complaining but just pointing out facts and things that are and continue to drive the pop down.

     

    Open your eyes....

  • MagterMagter Member Posts: 289

    The classes really do need to start getting balanced with each other even because if a DoK can out dps while healing the same as a WP, then there is seriously something wrong.

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  • darkfire58darkfire58 Member Posts: 23
    Originally posted by lordzenchi


    Its clear that WAR has no consideration what so ever to balancing! Its obvious that classes are not balance when "any" melee class can out damage a mage. That is just an obvious flaw in a game.... The squishes class just became the lowest hitting one, *claps*!
     
    If you are or will play this game then I suggest one thing.... roll as a melee character or a healer. This game is melee heavy and it just sucks plain out.
     
    Population is dropping everyday.... No matter how much they update they don't seem to grasp balancing things....

    It all depends on who you attack, and how much are getting attacked.

    For example: Say that I am a sorceress. I specced AoE, so Im going to run into the group of Order, and just start spamming AoE attacks. I died, while only dealing 3,000 dmg. This because my class is not designed to handle a lot of damage, and I am a designated target for melee, because I am very dangerous if they leave me alone. If I stay back in the group, and I focus on killing melees, they don't have the chance to hurt me, so I save myself. :D

    Another example: Say that I am a Chosen this time...

    I am a tank, I'm supposed to get up in the DPS' faces, and strike them down while relying on healers to heal me.

    WAR is not designed to be balanced for 1v1, its balanced for group vs. group encounters, and depending on what group you have, you will excel, and then sometimes you wont do so well.

    You must still be in the first 2 tiers, because tanks will almost never top the dmg charts in T3 and T4. Give it a chance, change your fighting tactics, adapt to your situations, and thats what makes it all fun. :) I don't know how true the statement is about population dropping every day, but I always see plenty of med & high pop servers.

    I wish you luck if this helped. :)

     

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