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 Alot of us come from strong mostly good memories, of our first really got into mmorpg, and remembered how long we stayed interested active and thought it was acatuly fun

  With the newer crop we have tried we either got discusted with on going customer service, bugs, too high expections, too much hype, and out and out boredom, once we got into the higher levels of game play

  In my next mmorpg i plan on changing a few things to my approach of the game

a) never read the games offical fourms to many winers

b) not get to caught up in patch notes deveolpments since a they will mean nerfage and b) to many changes

 and not rush the game, take time to see the different areas and what is around which corner of the game i am at any given time

 i will also take into account there is a good chance no matter what i try, may not hold my interest as long as my first mmorpg did and thats ok too, and even if i only stay a few months doesn't mean a game is a failure just not a match for me

  My new approach is, if it is fun for a while play, when it gets old, or two frustrating just let it go and move on or take a break

  and just like the older ones already out what the game looks like on release is not what the game will end up being a year from now

  instead of looking to my next mmorpg as be all end all mmorpg i'll for sure stay 2 + years, its going to be well lets look and see and play while its fun

  Above all happy gaming to all no matter which mmorpg they choose and may we all find something we have fun doing it again, and aren't we lucky to be in an age where we have so many styles/ and choices of game play ????

 

 

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  • dtritusdtritus Member Posts: 139

    Well said.

    After all, it's only a game. image

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  • rpgthegreatrpgthegreat Member Posts: 31

    There are advantages of both newer games, and older games.

    Older Games Pros:

    Older games have MASSIVE content.  There have been 8 EQ1 expansions, plus all the updates that were done without expansions.  There is so much content within eq1, it can keep you busy for years.  Also, there are lots of good websites with info on eq1, such as allakhazam that make the game easier for people who can not play the game 24/7.  With older games, class balancing is almost perfect, and there are almost no bugs.

    Older Games Cons:

    Older games have really crappy graphics.  They have none of the newer ideas that have come out recently, less talk between devs and customers.

    Newer Games Pros:

    Great graphics, newer ideas in the game, and they can use all of the good ideas from previous mmos and incorporate them into their mmo.  Some of the new ideas that couldn't be done in older games is Voice Over.  In eq2, every npc or mob that says something, will say it with a voice, not just display text. 

    Newer Game Cons:

    Generally they are all over hyped.  They are all released buggy(ALL OF THEM).  All of the imature kids flock from one new MMO to another.  Less knowledge on the web.  Did I say buggy?  Some systems might not be able to handle the game, and last but not least, they are all released buggy.

     

     

    I personally prefer both. 

    I have played EQ1 off and on for 3 years now(my first mmo). 

    I have tried DAoC, and thought it was boring, but in its defense I only got to level 6.

    I played Star Wars Galaxies and loved every bit of it, till I beat the game...  Yes, you can beat SWG...  No MMORPG has an ending, but SWG has something close.  You max out all your skill points, and then there is nothing left to do but either pvp, or delete the character and start a new one.  Or, the unending quest of becomming a jedi, that is a MMO in and of itself.  SWG is really fun for 3 months, then you beat the game and there is nothing else to do.

    I then tried FFXI, it was fun for a bit, but once I relized that it is a super grindfest, and the game had 15 monster models, I dropped it.  I was fighting Rabbits, Worms, Mandrakes, and Bumblebees at level 1.  At level 10 I was fighting  Rabbits, Worms, Mandrakes, and Bumblebees.  At level 20 I was fighting Rabbits, Worms, Mandrakes, and Bumblebees. At level 30 I was fighting Rabbits, Worms, Mandrakes, and Bumblebees.  You get the picture.  Not only was it the same monster model, they enver even bothered to change the size or the color.

    I beta tested Lineage II, only got to level 10, but I saw enough.  Super Grind fest, and 3, I repeat 3 skills!  You get to choose between your arrow special, your sword special, and your dagger special!  W00t, through the entire game, those three specials just get updated.  You get very few specials.

    I played City of Heroes.  When I first started off I thought, hey, this isn't so bad.  For some reason, and I don't know why, I got tired of it quick.  It seemed like a great game, I just lost interest in it. I dunno.

     

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  • Also, don't go into any game with expectations.  You'll only be disappointed if you do.

    And the biggest thing, the thing that has kept me playing certain MMOs much longer than I should have, do not continue to play an unfun game because of friends.  Friends can help ease the pain of an unfun game, but I would imagine friends would have the same effect on other things; like torture or oral surgery (practically the same).

    Don't play games that aren't fun ;p

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  • DetonatedDetonated Member Posts: 105
    I agree completely as ive sort of set up a few "rules" for myself, well actually one. If i see a new MMO that i would like to play, im gonna give it a shelf life of at least 2-3 months.This way initial,crippling bugs can be worked out(this is a BIG maybe that that they will get fixed but....ya know....), the community sort of "finds itself" in this time as well. Im not gonna rush into games anymore. My first 2 MMO's were EQ (right when Kunark was released, i quit when SoL came out) and AO (which im actually thinking about returning to but i dont know yet). Anyways, just my opinion. Its gonna be nice to see where this new generation of MMO's leads the industry.

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  • VeviVevi Member Posts: 146
    I agree with the expectation aspect. I was watching PotBS for a while and realized I had certain Expectations because I love Naval historical fiction, but I know how people are in games. I know that the gane will not match my expectations and players will not conform to how I imagine the atmosphere of a Naval MMO should be. my Expectations were dissapointed with SWG but I played with friends and that is what kept me there as long as I did.  For me MMO's are about who you play with! Unless the game has awesome content I don't think this will change. 

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  • FlamingBoiFlamingBoi Member Posts: 206



    Originally posted by rpgman69

    Newer Game Cons:
    Generally they are all over hyped.  They are all released buggy(ALL OF THEM).  All of the imature kids flock from one new MMO to another.  Less knowledge on the web.  Did I say buggy?  Some systems might not be able to handle the game, and last but not least, they are all released buggy.



    Imature kids flock from one new MMO to another? How bout recalling when u WERE a kid.. ever thought if u were immature? btw.. i do not think kids affect the game.. it's all in ur mind.. why get upset if a kids talks rot ? at the end, you are spoiling ur own day

  • HarafnirHarafnir Member UncommonPosts: 1,350

    Says someone named "Flaminboi"

    Lets just say we can rest our case.

    Only game I wait for right now: Imperator.
    Go Mythic!

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    It should be thrown with great force"

  • FlamingBoiFlamingBoi Member Posts: 206



    Originally posted by Harafnir

    Says someone named "Flaminboi"
    Lets just say we can rest our case.

    Only game I wait for right now: Imperator.
    Go Mythic!


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  • rpgthegreatrpgthegreat Member Posts: 31



    Originally posted by FlamingBoi

    Imature kids flock from one new MMO to another? How bout recalling when u WERE a kid.. ever thought if u were immature? btw.. i do not think kids affect the game.. it's all in ur mind.. why get upset if a kids talks rot ? at the end, you are spoiling ur own day




    Yes, I was once an immature kid.  The difference between you and me is that I no longer am...

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  • jimothypetrojimothypetro Member Posts: 1,437


    a) never read the games offical fourms to many winers

    That's exactly what I'm doing. As soon as WoW hits OB I'm going to *try* to stop coming to forums.

    I had tons of fun with Motor City Online, Planetside, and the first ~6 months of FFXI. After those first 6 months I started coming to forums.. and then things started to go downhill. I can't seem to get interested in any games.. I've tried almost all the released games on the forum list, and none of them interest me.

    Hell, I'm barely having fun with non-MMO games.

    Maybe it's not the forums.. maybe it is just that the games really are "boring" to me. Oh well, coulnd't hurt.

    Now the only problem is going to be actually staying away from forums.. they are more addicting then the game in most cases. ::::26::

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  • OrccOrcc Member Posts: 3,043

    Ya im in a similar boat... my first MMORPG (UO) was awsome, it something new (I saw the box in costco and was looking over it, i had no idea what a MMORPG was at that time). I read through the manual and i was so excited when i saw you could own houses, boats and mounts, and do anything you wanted. It was easily the best MMOG ive ever played but after that... it all went downhill. My friends were into EQ so i decided to use a free month i recieved from SOE... after haering so many great things about it I was fairly excited, but that qucikly changed. It was almost the opposite of everything i liked in UO. It had too many limits, it was extremly hard to just play by yourself and it was hard to explore, also I prefer skill based over class/level based. I tried about 4 different MMOGs after EQ, the only one that held my interest for a full month was DAoC, but it was too slow paced for me. After that i learned about UXO and was watching that game for almost a year until it was finally cancelled... since then the Only MMORPG ive played is EVE which i really enjoyed, but not one i would subscribe to yet.

    As for upcoming games... the two big ones (we all know which ones those are...) just dont seem to be doing anything really exciting or new. DnL is the game im putting my money for my new favorite.

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  • opieopie Member Posts: 137

    To me it seems really sad. The more time goes on, the less devs learn the lessons of the past. UO had a great mix of things and was a big hit....strangely enough it has yet to be copied. Course in all fairness, its really the upper management thinking about nothing but initial sales who screw up design.

    Games either go overboard with pve/quests and forsake pvp to be something meanless like a mini game or they go overboard excluding the non pvp community like shadowbane. UO had a good mix for both kinds of players, thus it brought them together into something magical (all pre UOR of course).

    Any software dev knows how painful it is to have a perfect design then have non engineering people come in and destroy your design for the sake of what they think is right......and then of course it fails and you have to go back and pick up the pieces.

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  • DienekesDienekes Member Posts: 484


    Originally posted by rpgman69
    Originally posted by FlamingBoi
    Imature kids flock from one new MMO to another? How bout recalling when u WERE a kid.. ever thought if u were immature? btw.. i do not think kids affect the game.. it's all in ur mind.. why get upset if a kids talks rot ? at the end, you are spoiling ur own day
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    Yea because going back at him was so mature. He made his opinion known and so did you. I don't believe kids affect the game either because for most games out there there is this thing called the ignore feature. It allows you to block those that bother you. You can play the game without having to worry about other people irking you. There are a ton of situations but there are also tons of solutions.

    As for playing games...well I agree that the newer games have less content but I don't think that is what makes or breaks a good game. I think it is how the content is implemented and as long as the devs are on the ball all is good. I intent to play the game without powerplaying it and hope that I don't care so much that I start burning out. lol

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  • rpgthegreatrpgthegreat Member Posts: 31

    There is nothing wrong with defending yourself...

    BTW, the ignore function only works if you know they are an immature kid.  I can't tell you how many times I would get in a group with someone and we would be fighting and I would see, "/ooc uber group looking for one more!" and then right after someone in my group sould say I gotta go, mom making me do homework.  Then he runs over to that group and groups up with them.  I know not just kids do this, but more kids do than adults.  I also hate elitests.  They only group with the perfect group.  They will not accept a decent one, they will only join a group if it has what they consider the perfect class combinations.

    BTW, this site is someplace for me to spend my time while I am bored at work/school.

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  • rpgthegreatrpgthegreat Member Posts: 31
    Poll:

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  • DienekesDienekes Member Posts: 484

    There is nothing wrong with defending yourself when there is something to defend against.

    While there are annoying people who may switch groups on you or some such cirumstance that is nothing to get worked up over. Maybe they didn't like being in your group and it has nothing to do with an "uber" group being in the area. Not to say there aren't those out there but there is nothing wrong with switching around groups. People have different play styles, if theirs doesn't meet their needs they should feel free to leave. I'm not sure why they would lie about it though. ::::12::

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