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A sincere apology to the MMO Industry; You were right!
Ghost12
Member Posts: 684
A thousand, thousand apologies: I seem to fail as an MMO player. I started my MMO gaming back in '99 and 2000 with the sandbox world of Asheron's Call, and then moved on to DAOC; and so forth, up to Warhammer Online.
I am terribly sorry.
I am a terrible MMO player.
I cannot play Warhammer or better yet, any other "Triple A" MMO out there. I thought I was in the right. I thought a large, open and free world would draw players to you. But I realize now, those elements are absolute insanity. So here is my list of apologies to you, the developers, and to YOU, the big men in suits.
For being unable to have fun.
- I am sorry for hating the class system. I dont want be a class, I dont want to have almost the exact same skill set as the person next to me. I am sorry for wanting to be unique. I know now, we must all be clones of each other in order to have fun.
- I am sorry for being unable to see the deep meaning in running 20 of the same games; same world; same objective; where players run in, kill each other, revive, and repeat until one "gets enough points".
- I am sorry for wanting to have my character make a real impact on the player world.
- I am sorry for cursing you out when releasing a new expansion making all the "epic" items we worked so hard for, suddenly useless and meaningless.
- I am sorry for disliking that my character looks exactly the same as the person next to me.
- I am sorry for getting bored when rushing the same keep over and over again. I know I am supposed to enjoy killing someone; seeing them come back unscathed a minute later; then dying myself; then running back, in hopes some of them will get frustrated and log off.
- I am sorry for hating the fact that I cant whack the enemy thats strolling through my land because they wont "allow" me to kill them by taking down their flag. After all, thats how war works, right?
- Death is not supposed to hurt. Now when we die, there is absolutely no penalty. I am sorry for not being afraid of death. Sorry for not getting getting any sort of rush when entering the enemy's territory, cause you know, I just die and restart back in town.
- I am sorry for nodding off to sleep when playing Warhammer Online's battleground PvP.
- .....And World of Warcraft's battleground's, too.
- I am sorry for wanting to give my character depth, and disliking making items the sole thing that define who your character is. I know now, because it makes the game shallower, and thats what we want. We shouldnt give our characters any depth. Items define our character, and in order to define our character, we must farm.
- I am sorry for hating the fact that in order to really "beat" or "kill" someone you either have to make them leave the area in frustration or log out.
- I am sorry for being unable to participate in long raids that take up 3 or 4 hours of my day time, struggling for the boss to drop a rare item that has a 1% chance to drop. I am sorry for having to like that, because I cant. I'm sorry for disliking the long, repetitive dungeon runs. We must all participate in long dungeon runs in order to have fun, and define ourselves.
- I am sorry for the only excitement I get is the anticipation of the battleground ending.
- I am sorry for not being interested in the one or two "gear sets" that you have provided for us. I know I should be grateful; after all, why should my character even be just a little unique?
- I am sorry that I dont enjoy being a delivery boy or a killer hired to perform genocide on some insignificant creature in the world. Those things really should mean alot to me. But they dont.
- I am sorry for wanting to make my own path for myself in the world, but I realize the developers have a greater plan for all of us....the same plan...for all of us.
- I am sorry for not getting any sort of excitement when I enter a zone, knowing full well that the sting of death simply wont hurt me. After all; I am a God - just like everyone else!
- I am sorry for seeing all this crap as just a massive grind; for the only thing we're supposed to look forward to is leveling up. I am sorry for wanting to enjoy the bland world you have given us.
- I am sorry for being unable to enjoy the large, open world you have given us. I am sorry for wanting to climb those mountains in the background, only to find that they are just wallpaper. Gosh, I was so dumb!
- I am sorry for not seeing the logic of having siege weapons yet not being able to actually destroy the keep.
- I am sorry for not supporting games that are released incomplete.
- I am sorry for wanting a dynamic world where some things change; but I realize we cant have that now. We must have a static world where players can compete mercilessly, where they can get lost in the farming and grinding, where the only thing matters is that next item and level; so they can stay hooked on the game.
I am sorry for wanting to have some fun. I realize now...guys, all the people here that are complaining, MMO video games arent supposed to be FUN! Theyre supposed to be work. A second job, ya got me? I mean, why should we have freedom in an MMO?
MMO's are all about entering the massive grinder, where you work hard to get that nice item, grind some more, die, revive, get another item, level up rinse and repeat. And everything else stays the same.
THATS fun. THATS the modern MMO.
And if you dont like it? Well then MMO's arent for you.
Comments
Fair enough. Instead of I'm sorry, I suggest a swift kick to the nutts. That's many kicks we owe them.
A dyslexic man walked into a bra.
Your prayers are answered, the massive grinder is changing. The new route to go seems to be the cash shop. Even THe Old Republic is talking about a cash shop.
No more working hard to get that nice item. You just buy it.
THAT is the modern MMO.
+1 to the OP
Your prayers are answered, the massive grinder is changing. The new route to go seems to be the cash shop. Even THe Old Republic is talking about a cash shop.
No more working hard to get that nice item. You just buy it.
THAT is the modern MMO.
Just keeps gettin better n better....each MMO that comes out gives us a new reason to go console or stick to single player games.
could not agree more on the warhammer thing and many things.
i myself quit warhammer after first month.
I do wish someone would sticky this and repost on every MMO board they could find.
A dyslexic man walked into a bra.
This one made me laugh. It's so true though, in WAR RvR the better characters don't win in the end, the most stubborn ones do.
There are certain queer times and occasions in this strange mixed affair we call life when a man takes this whole universe for a vast practical joke, though the wit thereof he but dimly discerns, and more than suspects that the joke is at nobody's expense but his own.
-- Herman Melville
work hard and become a game designer that can change the face of MMOs
or post useless drivel on an internetz forum that is not going to do anything important or substantial. The choice is yours!
good post!
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I too am sorry, I am sorry that I cannot fathom the depths of boring new mmo's have brought.....
I am sorry I cannot bear the quest grinding, that I want to truely explore a world and find things from my own dilligence.
I am sorry that I cannot stand "END GAME" being the start of the game.
I am sorry that I want to have fun at level 1 to level XX regardless of whether I raid or not.
I am sorry that it truely appears mmo's may not be for me.
and most of all I am sorry I am not independantly wealthy and could design an mmo myself that would bring the classic mmorpg together with many new elements to design what I honestly think would be true virtual world.... and be actually fun.
I also apologize for being an individualist , I guess I was rebelling when I wanted my character to take his own path and become unique in the world....I have learned this was all wrong and I must be a conformist and now realize there is no room for free will in the world of MMORPG's.
I now understand that I'm not capable of thinking on my own and realize the MMORPG God has mapped out my Journey, my path, and my destiny from day 1.
As a faithful follower I will tithe $15.00 a month knowing you will bless me with wonderful pre-planned linear content and if it is your will, expansions for which I will gladly pay for in addition to the monthly tithe.
Another sandboxx QQ post. Didn't know it was already this time of the month.
Bladin it really isn't about sandbox.... Technically EQ1 wasn't sandbox... I personally am just tired of easy mode games.... games that possess little challenge and put more focus on gear than on some measure of skill from the player. I miss the days of EQ1 where dieing felt like something bad... where I could honestly feel accomplishment when I leveled my character. I don't mean for the game to be a second job.. I just want some measure of challenge. So before you come in here claiming we are QQ'ing why not see that we are simply stating what it is we want in a game! If you are not looking for this type of game than as it appears their are plenty of games out there for you.... we simply desire to not have to conform what we want.
xXSeraphielX
how does crying over these forums really affect it? Really his entire post is basically saying "i want a sandbox, so i will use sarcasm to insult non sandbox while promoting my favorite type"
I'm actually pro sandbox, just the QQ on these forums really kills me.
Great post ... please post this on every MMO website maybe any dev that reads them will get a kick in the ass from it and change.
but then again why would they apparently the masses (wow players) have spoken. so all we get are dumbed down easy mode themepark games. Thanks WoWbois you ruined the MMO genre ... congrats!
so if someone is pissed off or at least aggrivated by the direction of MMORPGs ... he shouldn't post his frustrations on a website called MMORPG.com
oh i know your wonderful advice is to what? wait and hope the developers pull thier heads from thier asses? or maybe the classic "hey if you don't like it go design a MMO" ... because im sure everyone just has 10-20 million a team of developers and the overall knowhow just laying around.
Im sorry i cant play mmo's long enough anymore.
I started hopefull:
AC-2.5 years
AC2-2 years
lineage3.5 years
wow 9 months yes that one started the burnout:(
Between next one forum dweller few years, and playing solo games.
AoC-2 months
And a bunch of mmo's for few weeks to less then day:P
Im sorry im totally burned by dumb down mmorpg's
Darkfall IS REALY MY LAST HOPE!
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Excellent post! 10/10
OP pretty much sums up why I'm playing Eve, even though it pisses me off sometimes.
so if someone is pissed off or at least aggrivated by the direction of MMORPGs ... he shouldn't post his frustrations on a website called MMORPG.com
oh i know your wonderful advice is to what? wait and hope the developers pull thier heads from thier asses? or maybe the classic "hey if you don't like it go design a MMO" ... because im sure everyone just has 10-20 million a team of developers and the overall knowhow just laying around.
Yeah, but you act like this post says anything new or unique or fresh, it's just the same post recycled over and over.
My personal opinion is the by offering an opinion on an mmorpg site does have the potential to be seen by a developer. Just like playing a gig in a dump bar could be seen by label recruiter. The idea is that if no one says anything or not unified outcry for change happens.... they will continue to only look at the numbers and clone the game with the best potential to make money. What we need now is to show that a different type of game CAN survive.... because frankly games that are trying to be different just have not done well in the last years. (Auto Assault, Tabula Rasa) We need to show them that different ideas are good.... they just have to be well polished and thought out a little more.
xXSeraphielX
Yet another rant at the industry because they don't make the kind of game I personally would like but might very well be a financial disaster post.
Again companies are in the business of making money. The only reason for them to make a niche game is if they feel they can't compete with the big boys so they try to get the specialty players. If you feel you have a viable idea then get out there and try to make it happen. Yes I know it's one in a thousand but then again no guts no glory. The bottom line is they only way to play in a game that for you personally is perfect is to build it yourself.
I had my own complaints about no one making a functional (i.e. fractal as opposed to data centric) world MMORPG. I always thought it would be great to have a world big enough for everyone on a single shard. I finally stopped trying to convince others of the idea and started writing the code myself. I know I can't build the whole thing myself but if I can come up with the graphics engine and a demo maybe I can get some interest. As they say a picture is worth a thousand words.
Really I think most of the effort is getting started. Once you see something happening on you computer screen it encourages you to try to go the distance.
many internets to OP. /applause
so if someone is pissed off or at least aggrivated by the direction of MMORPGs ... he shouldn't post his frustrations on a website called MMORPG.com
oh i know your wonderful advice is to what? wait and hope the developers pull thier heads from thier asses? or maybe the classic "hey if you don't like it go design a MMO" ... because im sure everyone just has 10-20 million a team of developers and the overall knowhow just laying around.
Yeah, but you act like this post says anything new or unique or fresh, it's just the same post recycled over and over.
I have to agree with Bladin, this is just repeated nonsense that everyone already knows.
Currently restarting World of Warcraft