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please explain the various types of xp and levels

From what I have read and understand so far, there are various types of advancement.

 

Standard level, or rank as it's called. You get xp from killing stuff and quests. You can get xp from pve as well as pvp kills.

 

RvR rank, you get xp from participating in any kind of pvp, be it scenarios or open rvr areas.

 

Public Quests. You get influence points from doing public quests, each has it's own influence bar that rewards you with up to 3 items.

 

oRvR. there is an influence bar for each oRvR area, same as public quests

 

 

So if I understand correctly, there are 4 ways to "level up". Your level (rank) and RvR rank are the ones that stay with you and level up normally. The PQ and oRvR influence bars are seperate for each area you go to and get maxed relatively easy.

 

Is this correct? am I missing anything?

Comments

  • RasmusLRasmusL Member Posts: 13

    You got pretty much any type in the game listed.

    Although, you missed the option of guilds, as they can rise in rank too, and unlock certain stuff, such as banner upgrades.

  • Raiz1Raiz1 Member Posts: 177

    In most cases you'll get xp towards our rank (level) no matter what.

    Experience - Counts towards your class rank and you cap at 40

    Renown - Counts towards your renown rank and you cap at 80. Renown allows you to increase your base stats as well as gain some tactics.

    PVE Influence - You have PVE influence that you build on a per chapter basis. There are 3 tiers to each with the elite reward usually being something desireable.

    PvP Influence - PvP influence is gained through ORvR areas only. It has a 3 tier system the same as PVE but the rewards are head an shoulders above msot anything you'll get from the PVE rewards.

     

    You are really only "leveling" your class rank and renown rank. don't let it scare you tbh. As long as you pvp you gain all 3 in Orvr

  • Deimar33Deimar33 Member Posts: 34

    so for pve and orvr influence, there are 3 parts at each of the T1 - T4?

    Do you have to max out the influence of all 3 parts of each tier or can you skip them?

    Can you max out only the 3rd part of a tier to get the good reward and skip the first two parts?

     

    Can you get orvr influence from doing scenarios? It seems that it woudl take forever to level that up with actual orvr as you are dependant on finding and killing enemy players?

  • markoraosmarkoraos Member Posts: 1,593
    Originally posted by Raiz1


    In most cases you'll get xp towards our rank (level) no matter what.
    Experience - Counts towards your class rank and you cap at 40
    Renown - Counts towards your renown rank and you cap at 80. Renown allows you to increase your base stats as well as gain some tactics.
    PVE Influence - You have PVE influence that you build on a per chapter basis. There are 3 tiers to each with the elite reward usually being something desireable.
    PvP Influence - PvP influence is gained through ORvR areas only. It has a 3 tier system the same as PVE but the rewards are head an shoulders above msot anything you'll get from the PVE rewards.
     
    You are really only "leveling" your class rank and renown rank. don't let it scare you tbh. As long as you pvp you gain all 3 in Orvr

     

    Just a bit of correction..

    You can get PvE set items in dungeons now - these are comparable to PvP sets which are hands-down the best gear in the game.

    It seems that Mythic did boost those low tier dungeon rewards - in fact I got a T2 alt and I'll go check those Altdorf sewers this evening.

    Atm the best gear possible when leveling is having a few pieces of a set (either PvP or PvE or the "combo" one) and combine it with open RvR inf purplaz.

  • markoraosmarkoraos Member Posts: 1,593
    Originally posted by Deimar33


    so for pve and orvr influence, there are 3 parts at each of the T1 - T4?
    times 3 - each pairing/tier has its own influence. So there is dwarf T1 inf, human T1 inf etc.. If you spend most of your leveling time in open RvR you'll probably max out all influences there easily.
    Do you have to max out the influence of all 3 parts of each tier or can you skip them?
    You can pick and choose. You can concentrate on only one area till you max it out, or you can go where the action is to get those 1st level rewards fast.
    Can you max out only the 3rd part of a tier to get the good reward and skip the first two parts?
     Nope - you collect influence and things unlock - 1,2,3.
    Can you get orvr influence from doing scenarios? It seems that it woudl take forever to level that up with actual orvr as you are dependant on finding and killing enemy players?
    Nope - can't get influence through scenarios, thank god. However, you can get influence from taking over battlefield objectives and keeps. If there is no opposition in open RvR (could be they took all there is to take ) start yelling if anyone is up for some BO taking. You need a good 5+ man group for that. I find that once you have a RvR group rolling people will start joining up on their own - once you have 15ish players you can try a keep.


    At that point the opposition will wake up and try to retake one of the keeps you have just taken (and in keeps you get set chest pieces - the BEST gear in the game while leveling). This is the moment to start defending and keep defense gives you MASSIVE amounts of XP, RP and influence. 

     

  • Raiz1Raiz1 Member Posts: 177
    Originally posted by Deimar33


    so for pve and orvr influence, there are 3 parts at each of the T1 - T4?
    Do you have to max out the influence of all 3 parts of each tier or can you skip them?
    Can you max out only the 3rd part of a tier to get the good reward and skip the first two parts?
     
    Can you get orvr influence from doing scenarios? It seems that it woudl take forever to level that up with actual orvr as you are dependant on finding and killing enemy players?



     

    I'll answer each question:

    Yes- There is Basic, Advanced, Elite

    No- You do not have to max out each tier. At Advanced reward for the PVE influence though you get a quest that grants some decent xp for simply talking to the next rallymaster (these are the guys that give the rewards)

    No- In higher Orvr tiers you'll want all three anyway. Its the same for PvE. No shortcuts. It takes maybe an hour or so to do solo, less if you have a group.

    No- ORvR is ORvR. Scenarios are totally seperate and imho a mini-game that grants class experience instead of influence. Very true that scenarios are better for having an enemy right in front of you, but ORvR has a lot more incentive for investment. For instance:

    ORvR/BOs are fantastic for gaining renown and influence; while scenariors grant exellent experience with moderate renown.

    If your faction caps an entire tier you get a huge renown bonus, so there is incentive there to finish the job.

     

    But at the end of the day you have to realise that there is a combination of things you can do to gain in class rank and renown rank.

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