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Been a month
thedrakon
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It's been a month I keep wanting to sub to EvE again. But, I keep myself away, and the more I keep myself away, the more I want to come back.
The thing I remember that push me away was :
1 - The time it take to travel
Wich make Looting rats in mission been way too long
2 - Feeling lonely most of the time
Maybe I could find a nice corps, but I've never been lucky in my search soo far.
3 - They're soo many thing to learn, and never got someone to explain them to me.
4 - Having problem doing something else than mission, Having too buy to many skill, soo having to do mission to get money, then, buy skill.
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I was wondering If they're a chance I can get over this if I come back ? Is there a way to make travel a bit faster. I think I've got 1 or 2 skill that help (can't remember, been at least 1year I haven't played.
I know my character got some good skill point. I've played 2-3 times for 2-4 month each time. Or soo, not sure, but I ended up with 7-9million sp. Wich half of it is for learning skill wich are mostly all maxed out.( I think I didn't raise the stat wich affect Corps and group skills)
I've got a good start if I come back, I think I've got a little bit of money. (really don't remember how much, but I'm far from billion). Might be arround 1-10 millions, maybe a bit more, maybe a bit less, in other word, I'm poor !!!
I want to talk about it, what people think I should do, stay away, I will never find a way to travel faster, will always feel lonely, if I want money, I need to put too much time ... What ???
(For people who want to know more about my char, from what I remember,
Most my skill are in learning.
The rest is split between fighting 50% (space ship, missile and other thing like that)
And the remaining is splitted between Skill to help fit your ship and a bit of mining.)
I'm a caldari.
Comments
To answer some of your concerns.
1. Eve is supposed to be big. there are people who complain about eve being too small. Remember its in the design of the game for it to be large. However , everyone can warp to zero manually to stargates (not for autopilot however, I believe you still arrive at gates at 15 km from them).
Jump clones can get you from one side of the gaalxy to the other. However there is a 24 hour cooldown. Mircrowarpdrives, afterburners and other modules like that make it faster to move around. You could try and stick to the local area. 5 jumps in eve is not actually a lot. I know that 40 however can be a lot, but you get used to it. Now I don't really mission but I do take from missions so its probably a good idea to l00t as you mission. For example you could add a tractor beam to your ship to get to the wrecks faster. Of course its a case of trial and error what you fit . You could probably just get a ship set-up straight off the main eve forums. Faster ships and ones that warp quickly too, like interceptors, shuttles.
2. You could join a corp/make your own. As you go through eve you meet people. Its not that hard as most folk are friendly. Even the pirates believe it or not.
3. If you want to fly something then you can see what is needed to fly it by looking at the prerequisites tab on the ship from doing show info. You can find most of the info on the ev online site or theres a new eve wikipedia thingy that the devs have developed - wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Main_Page.
4. Missions are not the only way to make isk. You want a list? Salvaging, exploration, mining, fighting other players, playing the market, scamming, production, taking from other peoples missions, pos moon mining, invention etc etc.
You can have 10 million oen second and have 10 billion the enxt depending on circumstances although I have not been that lucky. Also I would try and not do all learning skills to 5 straight away as not only will that take too long but will actually stop you from learning other more important skills at first. Save the level 4 and 5's for a time when you think you will need them. As you play through eve you learn. of course its entirely up to you to do what you want. Set-goals and aim for them. They might be near impossible goals but who knows?
Ok,i seriously just tried to type this post here for over 30min then i re-read on the bottom statement after the qualms of the game you had.
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Major drawback to everything why you had no fun:
you pratically only focused on your learning skills.
If you really say you do nothing else but missions, sure enough you got iskies no matter what isk you got, buy some skills seriously find the cheapest you can find, freaking Navigation II takes bar none time and you probably can get Afterburners ( don't call me spot on to this) which in would solve your "traveling" problems. Also assuming with the non-stop mission running you do,you should be at least do higher level agents which do bring greater isk income. Thus leading to buying more skills.
Sum of your problems-Focused too much on learning, you can't use majority of the tools/fittings that would be aviable to you
Um.I'm gonna pass the torch to the next helper poster. I need to overdose on advil again.
(Hop back in there man,you'll make it)
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I already have the learning skill, I done them when I subscribe for some month and didn't played much.
Fit a tractor beam and an afterburner... problem solved. Once you are more experienced and are doing higher end missions you'll find having a dedicated salvaging ship to come back in AFTER you do the mission is a huge help.
Join recruiting channel
Post on Eve-o recruitment forums
Join EVE-University
Look in corp forums here
See above... any decent corp will help you out. EVE University is one of the best corporations for a new player to join.
Missions aren't the only way to make money... just one of the easier ways. Also... finding things to 'do' is just a matter of using your immagination. There's any number of ways to make money in EVE.... some of them are more fun than others.
As to your issue with travel time
1) Use Warp-to-Zero, don't autopilot
2) In missions fit an afterburner and a tractor beam. This will drastically reduce your looting times. Once you get to level 3 and 4 missions consider bookmarking wrecks in each 'room' of the mission then finishing the mission and flying back to your bookmarks in a 'looting' ship to get your loot. As long as you complete the mission in under 2 hours the wrecks will still be there. Looting should go faster than killing so you'll easily get it all if you fit a proper looting ship.
"A ship-of-war is the best ambassador." - Oliver Cromwell
I've already got the afterburner and the tractor beam. But I've never been told about the coming back with a ship to loot. Seem a better way. You fit more tractor beam into it, and maximazed your speed. right ?
Only these might help me a lot to come back.
I think I will try to get in and find a corp, maybe on EvE forum first.
As to your question. No, 1 tractor beam per wreck. however you can activate more than one salvager on one wreck to salvage faster.
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On the concept of coming back to loot. Do this and it'll be easier on you, You just do the mission (kill all the npcs) Bookmark a wreck in each room/pocket while going through out the mission, Turn in the mission. Get your salvager ship warp to bookmark,pull,salvage, Rinse & Repeat for the rest of your Mission carrer
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Best way is as follows
1) Learn Gallente frig 3 (couple hours)
2) Learn Destroyers 1 (30 minutes)
3) Buy a Catalyst (Gallente Destroyer)... do not listen to anyone else... the Catalyst is the single best looting/salvaging ship in the game. Properly fitted it can hold over 1200m3 of cargo and fit 3 tractor beams and 5 salvagers as well as an afterburner and will do just under 500m/s speed fitted fully for cargo. Yes, you can fit a Battlecruiser that will hold more and have the same number of tractors/salvagers but it will be slower than dog snot
How:
As you do your mission bookmark 1 Wreck in each "room". When you finish the mission go back to your agent and complete it (make sure you loot whatever is needed to complete if there is loot needed to complete). Then switch to your salvaging ship and fly back to where your bookmarks are.
Note: Do not use a MWD for a looting ship as you'll out-run your tractor beams and defeat the whole purpose.
Once you get GOOD at it you'll even manage to kill the badguys so that their wrecks are all pretty close together (thus reducing your looting time even further).
Enjoy
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Another reply with the same stuff already mentioned! Yay post counts!
Travel Time - This is, by far, my biggest complaint about Eve. This is also the biggest reason any of the people I've tried to get to play Eve are no longer playing. But... It's fawking space so... I guess longer travel times go with the territory, as it were. Tractor beams, Afterburners, Microwarp Drives, Navigation Skills, etc all help with this factor - at least as missioning is concerned. Those 28 jumps you have to make to move to a new agent... well, just be glad Warp to 0 exists cause before it did.... ugh...
Boring/Lonely - CORP!!! GET IN A CORP!!!! Another thing that helps with this is GET IN A CORP!!!! And lastly, cause I don't think anyone has mentioned it yet - GET IN A CORP!!!
And from there you should be good cause any further questions you have should be answerable by them.
gl hf!
Corps right, I'm still looking for one. One guy ask me to join on the mmorpg.com forum, but their amaar
, I'm looking more into a Caldari corp, or someone close to help me more. I still didn't sub yet, don't see how I will find people
Eve University is a corp I recommend. Lot's of classes and good instructors will help you in the beginning.
I really wouldn't worry about the location of the corp, Most corps can help you get setup in am area quickly. and most can help you move any volume of assets you have as well with either freighters or orcas. I get a few pilots from all of the regions of EVE that join mine I help them get stuff moved and resettled at the new location.
Easy to say, find a corp.
But, I've tried to find one for 3 hour yesterday, didn't find one.
In corporation tab, in the recruitment bit, there is an advert section. Try convoing the guy who is ceo of a corp you like the look of. Also there is a recruitment section on the main forums.
Sometimes finding the right corp is about flying around on your own and meeting friends/foes. Or you could always make your own corp and fly around in that for a bit.
I'm not much into getting my own corps, I don't have enough time to play to invest myself in that, nor I got the knowledge.
But thx for the info about corps !
EVE is about the corps definitely. Once you have money and skills then you realise that the game essentially has no content but what you make for yourself with your corpmates.
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