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i recently been looking for a new game and my friend suggested me guild wars, but lineage2 caught my attention since people said it had better pvp. So which should i play if i was looking for pvp and less grinding, class choices, and good community.
Playing: WoW and Guild wars faction.
waiting on: GW2 and next WoW expansion 
played: flyff, diablo2, maplestory, dungeon runners, eudemons online, conquer online, runescape, decide online, perfect world, and atlantica.
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Hey there!
Well if u are looking for good PvP this is def ur game! But if u dont wanna grind, this is def NOT ur game.
The grind is veeery harsh, but u can see it as rewarding. Finally when u stand there with ur 80-85 char u really accomplished something. But on the other side, many ppl in L2 "cheat".
By cheating I mean a program that automate ur char and kills stuff while u are relaxing and drinking coffee in the sofa. That kinda takes away the feeling "yeah I made it all the way".
But atleast u know u made it by urself!
Maybe it sounds like I dont like this game a bit. I really do. Been playing on and off since the game launch. There is something special about this game. Community is good. Get a nice clan and u will experience the "real L2".
Have fun!
An opinion from a Guild Wars player:
Guild Wars has basically no grind. You can create a maximum level PvP-only character right from the get-go. PvP characters earn their own "currency" through playing PvP, known as Balthazar Faction. This can be used to unlock additional skills, weapons etc.
The game is completely skill-based. What this means is that gear means almost nothing. With the right skill build you can beat other players with a character that's completely naked, or a single person can kill multiple other people.
There are hundreds upon hundreds of skills, but only 8 can be equipped at a time. What makes this system even more efficient is that characters can have a second profession, which gives that character access to all the skills of another profession, meaning you can mix and match the skills of two professions at a time. Changing between secondary professions is also as simple as selecting the new profession from a drop-down menu. There's no cost of re-speccing and it is quickly and easily done, unlike with most other MMOs.
Lastly, PvP is one of the, if not the most balanced itterations of PvP in the MMO market. Monthly tournaments are held and hosted by the Guild Wars team. Your PvP options will include Guild vs Guild, Random Arenas, Team Arenas, Hero Battles (you and a team of NPCs vs. another player and his/her team of NPCs), Alliance Battles (8 vs. 8 territorial battle), competitive missions (8 vs. 8 battles that are goal oriented, such as a team breaking into a fort whilst the other defends it) and of course there's Heroes Ascent, where 4 teams of 8 battle in the Hall of Heroes.
You'll even have added PvP options during holiday events! The current holiday event, Wintersday (in celebration of Christmas and new year), adds a PvP Snowball Fight game, which pits two teams of 4 against each other. All skills are automatically altered for players and replaced with special Snowball Fight skills. During the Dragon Festival the Dragon Arena becomes available, where skills are once again replaced with skills that cause everything from instant death to speed boosts.
There's also Observer Mode, which allows you to instantly view currently-happening high-end PvP battles, or previously recorded demonstration battles organised by the dev team.
Guild Wars has been designed as a Competitive Online Roleplaying Game and it truly lives up to its name.
Since you asked on the Lineage 2 forums, the correct answer is obviously Guild Wars. If it's grinding you care about, the two games are at opposite extremes in the amount of grinding required. A veteran Guild Wars player could probably get a brand new character to max level with mostly perfect gear in a single day if so inclined--and be otherwise productive that day, and not just play a computer game all day.
how long is the grind? 6-7 months like wow?
Playing: WoW and Guild wars faction.
waiting on: GW2 and next WoW expansion
played: flyff, diablo2, maplestory, dungeon runners, eudemons online, conquer online, runescape, decide online, perfect world, and atlantica.
Sorry to burst your bubble but if you actually think wow's grind is 6-7 months, Lineage 2's grind will be years.
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Sorry to burst your bubble but if you actually think wow's grind is 6-7 months, Lineage 2's grind will be years.
When i said 6-7months i meant for and average player it took from 1 to 80 not to 60 or 70. And it took me 6 months to get to lvl 80, playing about 25hours a week, while pvping along the way everytime i reach 9s.
Playing: WoW and Guild wars faction.
waiting on: GW2 and next WoW expansion
played: flyff, diablo2, maplestory, dungeon runners, eudemons online, conquer online, runescape, decide online, perfect world, and atlantica.
have not played it that mush when the vetality system was released but it was 1000+ hours before
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A quick check of a powerleveling service turned up by Google found that they charge $2900 to level a character to 80 in Lineage 2, as compared to $270 in WoW. Most of the gold sellers that sell Guild Wars stuff don't sell powerleveling, but those that do typically charge $20-$40 to get a character to max level.
So, which game do you think the gold sellers think has more grinding?
I'm not advocating actually buying powerleveling, of course. If you hate a game enough to be willing to pay someone else to play it for you so that you don't have to, it's cheaper to just quit (or not start, in your case). But if you can get a character to max level in one game in 20 hours of play time, while another game takes 200, powerlevelers are going to charge vastly more for the latter.
Is there pvp in without having to be max lvl, like WoW you can lvl than once you get bored you can do some bgs without having to be max lvl.
Playing: WoW and Guild wars faction.
waiting on: GW2 and next WoW expansion
played: flyff, diablo2, maplestory, dungeon runners, eudemons online, conquer online, runescape, decide online, perfect world, and atlantica.
Now there seems to be certain competitions you can involve yourself in. I personally started pvping in castle sieges and along with guilds at a very low level, it is not about involving yourself in it, it is about how much exactly can you do. Once you get into A-grade (level 61), you should be able to make some dents in damage, etc. I doubt you will be able to live long by yourself though. You won't be able to last by yourself unless you are 70+, the max level is 85 (is there anyone at that level yet?).
Anyway, you said you played 25 hours a week, which is quite a good amount and would be decent for Lineage 2. It all depends on what you do in those 25 hours, the first few weeks may be just rough grinding but once you get higher, it is a lot better.
Back to your question, playing 25 hours a week for Guild Wars will not last too long unless you actually want to join the PvP competitions where actual prizes are awarded and you have to be insanely good with your party and yourself. But if you are just looking for a game, not professional playing, playing 25 hours a week in Guild Wars will last a little time before you totally finish all there seems to do. It is a good game, nonethless that I definitely recommend for some fun.
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Both are great games but there are some major differences:
Lineage II
- The leveling Grind becomes insanely steep very fast, if you get killed at a high level you would be losing hours, days, even weeks of XP, plus you can get a death penalty.
- Classes have great skills, but many of them you will need to a book to learn the skill, books are dropped by monsters, bought from players and NPC have some books as well. So it becomes a tease when you level up but cannnot learn any new skills until you find the book (which can be very expensive when purchased off a player or can be obtain by finding what monster will drop the book and depending on the rarity can take a long time to finally get a monster to drop the book)
- Adena (ingame currency) is also a challange, you will most likely never have enough. Weapons and armour pretty much never are dropped by a monster once you are over level 20.
-Community in my opinion is great
- Finding a Clan is easy and recommended
-PVP they have changed it around a bit with fortresses so you could see some early on
-Random PVP / PK not as much as you may think, I was level 52 or 53 before someone ever attacked me out in the open.
-There are lots of classes to chose from and would recommend reading up on the classes beforehand.
-Bots are more or less just part of the game, you will have to get used to them. You will see people complain about the bots but then again the people who are complaining most likely bought their weapons and armor from a bot.
-Expansions are always free, many of the expansions are very large.
Guild Wars
-The game is not focused on Grinding
- Has some of the best PVP of any game ( you can only use 8 ? skills at a time) so you need to choose wisely, you can however change skills in town . They also have PVP arenas for all levels.
-You start of with a primary class and can choose a secondary class later on. Example" You start of as a Warrior and later choose to be a Monk and you are now a Warrior / Monk and can use Warrior skills and most of the Monk skills both.
-The community is a mixed bag, lots of great people play but also a lot of immature people as well.
-I really dislike the Hero Henchmen since it has made grouping more difficult due to everyone wanting to level there heroes.
So both games are fun and have their own positives and negatives, Guild Wars is free of monthly charges and much more casual and you can play it as much or as rarely as you want.
Lineage II is just a very addictive game, you feel like you accomplished something when you gain a level. I tend to get burned out and take months off at a time but I always find myself resubbing at the end.
I think Gamestop has a trial CD for Guild Wars and occasionally Lineage II will have a free trial as well.
I think im gonna go with guild wars, cause i hate losing exp with i die.
Playing: WoW and Guild wars faction.
waiting on: GW2 and next WoW expansion
played: flyff, diablo2, maplestory, dungeon runners, eudemons online, conquer online, runescape, decide online, perfect world, and atlantica.
I dont wanna be picky but the info about the "skill-books" is a bit outdated. Since a few expansions ago u are able to buy all books u need before u are lvl 76. After 76 u have to grind em from monsters, some is easier to get....some are harder.
Well we are all different ppl who prefer different things. I cant say very much about GW since I only played a couple of days when it was released. But in my very personal opinion I dont even think u can compare these games. From what I know of GW its very limited in many ways (invicible walls in the geography and so on). For me L2 is by far a better and more "rewarding" game.
But as I said we are all different and like different things, and maybe that is a jolly good thing!
If you want something that takes over a year to master and has a good feeling of accomplishment, play L2.
If you want a game that you just go to lvl 20 in a few weeks and then try to get gear, then go with GW :P I'm not knocking it, but it's more of a casual gamer's game.
Gear in Guild Wars is not restricted by level, so you don't have to wait until you're level 20 to get perfect gear. It's really a question of whether you prefer to do content for the sake of doing content without having to worry about being strong enough, or would prefer to grind endlessly to make your character stronger.
It depends on your playstyle, L2 takes a lot more commitment and time investment. Until you're a high level, there isn't much to do but grind in L2. GW is much easier to get into, but its a little too casual friendly. Many people play by themselves and it essentially becomes a single-player game.
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