None. Not a fanboy, but not a skeptic or hater. I think it will come out and be good, at least for a while, but it most certainly will not be the best game ever. There will be better games made in time. It will probably be the best MMO made so far though...
Your sig pretty much gives it away.
LOL. nice try pewtpewt...everybody knows youre a fanboi...
Im a fanboy I suppose by these forum standards. But I get a chuckle out of some of the people in this thread labeling themselves as skeptics. Maybe some have swallowed their pride after being proven wrong and now just are skeptics...but good lord if some of us fanboys are going to own up...some of you trolls should do the same and just call yourself haters. Above is a quote of a "skeptic" (OP) which i thought I might share, just to show an example of what kind of attitude qualifies as a skeptic these days. Oh well....happy new years everyone and yay for cheering for games we want to see succeed!
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
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I really don t get this. Let me explain, i know a few DF haters in real life. And thay all share the same view of life. If i ask them if they wanna go to Thailand for vacation, that say it will probobly suck. If i ask them to try a new dinner place, that say it will mostly taste shit. If i ask them if they wnna try Darkfall, they answer that it will surten be crap.
Thats why i cant take people seriously.....people that already have decided that it will suck in every way.
Me, i hope it will be the best game i have ever tryed. If not.....who cares?...its a computer game. Its not that much you can care anyway. And why would i be here if i didnt wanna play it? You wont ever see me on the WoW forum!
I, as would many others, would love for all the promises to be fact. Sadly, many of us have been burnt (for lack of a better word) by the hype and promises of developers and/or PR guys in recent years. I won't mention names in fear of derailing the OPs thread ....... you know the guilty ones.
However, I will not lie ...... vaporware has come out of my keyboard more than once in the last six years. I will admit though, Giannas apparent reviews of the beta have helped me at least get a little closer to the fence. I refuse to let myself get excited about this MMO ....... heck, any of them for that.
I chose fan. Theres no in between, but I think sceptic has too much of a negative spin to it. I have no reason to think that Darkfall will be a failure. I am going to give it a shot. No I;m not certain it will be fun, balanced, polished, whatever, but their advertimsements appeal to me.
Poll missing category 'supporter' as someone who find the game interesting so far and looking forward to play it. Lack of good alternatives for people this forum is build for in short
Darth,
I understand that english isn't your first language.. And you're not that bad at reading it.
However, Please look up the word CRITIC, You'll see that it doesn't quite fit what you want. They look at things objectivly.
Also, the majority of your post is written from the perspective of a Fanboi.. that that you have only positive and negative
Same i think about your poll (subjective perspective) cause you don't have given a good description and option to people who wait in a constructive way for the game.
Where is the "gamer who want DF to succeed because its an example of a playstyle" they may not think "DF is best game ever". What about people who like the features and want the game to succeed because of that alone ? There are fans a absolutely normal thing..
Whats here is out of proportion is the degree of hate a game receives WITHOUT it even beeing out and had the chance to do something wrong to anyone..
Also you description of the hater is not accurate.
Through my poll i have proofed that many hate the game without a reason (they don't even interested in DF) and not like you describe in your option about hater.
Also your description to the option 'critic' is depedent on bad(!) experience with other games and encourages the voter to not judge DarkFall on his own merit ..
You poll is biased too , thats for sure..
(btw critics don't look at things objectively , hence they know such a thing like objectivity doesn't exist - you should have gone with the term 'pessimist' to describe your option as in "they have a feel it may go wrong " )
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I don't see an option to declare oneself drunk, but that is my dcision and i refuse to let anyone change my mind!
*hic* happy new year gamers
Why are there so many cutesie, fantasy, childish MMO's. Give me blood, gore and a long lasting challenge. I don't need my hand being held along the way. Thanks.
I chose fan. Theres no in between, but I think sceptic has too much of a negative spin to it. I have no reason to think that Darkfall will be a failure. I am going to give it a shot. No I;m not certain it will be fun, balanced, polished, whatever, but their advertimsements appeal to me.
Skeptic is more a neutral and objective term... maybe you're thinking cynical as a more negative term... anywhooooo I too am insterested in DF, I saw one vid on it that looked decent... again not antyhing to blow my socks off but decent to try it out at least.
I guess only actual gameplay will determine whetther it sux or not... that is if it's ever released (i hope)
Poll missing category 'supporter' as someone who find the game interesting so far and looking forward to play it. Lack of good alternatives for people this forum is build for in short
Darth,
I understand that english isn't your first language.. And you're not that bad at reading it.
However, Please look up the word CRITIC, You'll see that it doesn't quite fit what you want. They look at things objectivly.
Also, the majority of your post is written from the perspective of a Fanboi.. that that you have only positive and negative
Same i think about your poll (subjective perspective) cause you don't have given a good description and option to people who wait in a constructive way for the game.
Where is the "gamer who want DF to succeed because its an example of a playstyle" they may not think "DF is best game ever". What about people who like the features and want the game to succeed because of that alone ? There are fans a absolutely normal thing..
Whats here is out of proportion is the degree of hate a game receives WITHOUT it even beeing out and had the chance to do something wrong to anyone..
Also you description of the hater is not accurate.
Through my poll i have proofed that many hate the game without a reason (they don't even interested in DF) and not like you describe in your option about hater.
Also your description to the option 'critic' is depedent on bad(!) experience with other games and encourages the voter to not judge DarkFall on his own merit ..
You poll is biased too , thats for sure..
(btw critics don't look at things objectively , hence they know such a thing like objectivity doesn't exist)
Personally, I don't want DF to succeed nor fail, any game should do that on it own merrit once it's released to the public.
None of the above for me. My category would be "Indifferent". When the game launches I'll try it, if I like it I'll continue playing, if not I'll go somewhere else. I take other peoples opinion with a grain of salt and have no vested interest in the game succeeding or failing.
sorry to call you on this but if you're "indifferent" then why did you even bother responding?
i'm actually surprised how many more sceptics there are than anyone else - interesting poll
After a pile of MMORPGs that failed to live the hype in the past, people simply will not trust another company's promises, no matter how cool they sound.
i'm actually surprised how many more sceptics there are than anyone else - interesting poll
Take a pile of MMORPGs that failed to live the hype in the past then most people simply won't buy another game with tons of promises.
that would be a more cynical approach then skeptical actually. I have to admit that sometimes broken promises for devs. does tend to make the most ardent of fanbois "Jaded" but it happens. But skeptical analysis is more based on "Proof is in the pudding"... meaning that I guess we'll see when the game comes out. Will it be able to live up the the dev. hype or not?... only time will tell I guess
how about im hoping this game will be fun and the complete package and if its not i wont commit suicide and ill move on with my life. can we add that as a choice?
how about im hoping this game will be fun and the complete package and if its not i wont commit suicide and ill move on with my life. can we add that as a choice?
i'm actually surprised how many more sceptics there are than anyone else - interesting poll
Take a pile of MMORPGs that failed to live the hype in the past then most people simply won't buy another game with tons of promises.
that would be a more cynical approach then skeptical actually. I have to admit that sometimes broken promises for devs. does tend to make the most ardent of fanbois "Jaded" but it happens. But skeptical analysis is more based on "Proof is in the pudding"... meaning that I guess we'll see when the game comes out. Will it be able to live up the the dev. hype or not?... only time will tell I guess
Actually I meant "won't buy" for not believing it will be delivered as said (missed "it" after the "buy"). In short, after some disappointments, I'll want to see evidence of the proposed mechanics before making claims/praise.
shitty poll. you shouldn't be adding your own reasons behind why you think each person fits into the corresponding category. that and since not many people want to be called a fanboy or a hater, you will get an overwhelming skeptic vote.
I chose skeptic as it was the only logical choice, and most people will pick that one aswell.
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Skeptic, but part of me wants to hope so I am.
im an extreme df skeptic...
im a hater of blind fanbois and a hater of tasos and everything that spews out of his lying mouth
Your sig pretty much gives it away.
LOL. nice try pewtpewt...everybody knows youre a fanboi...
Im a fanboy I suppose by these forum standards.
But I get a chuckle out of some of the people in this thread labeling themselves as skeptics. Maybe some have swallowed their pride after being proven wrong and now just are skeptics...but good lord if some of us fanboys are going to own up...some of you trolls should do the same and just call yourself haters. Above is a quote of a "skeptic" (OP) which i thought I might share, just to show an example of what kind of attitude qualifies as a skeptic these days.
Oh well....happy new years everyone and yay for cheering for games we want to see succeed!
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"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
I'm a skeptic and sometimes troll according to some.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
I really don t get this. Let me explain, i know a few DF haters in real life. And thay all share the same view of life. If i ask them if they wanna go to Thailand for vacation, that say it will probobly suck. If i ask them to try a new dinner place, that say it will mostly taste shit. If i ask them if they wnna try Darkfall, they answer that it will surten be crap.
Thats why i cant take people seriously.....people that already have decided that it will suck in every way.
Me, i hope it will be the best game i have ever tryed. If not.....who cares?...its a computer game. Its not that much you can care anyway. And why would i be here if i didnt wanna play it? You wont ever see me on the WoW forum!
I am the epitome of skeptic.
I, as would many others, would love for all the promises to be fact. Sadly, many of us have been burnt (for lack of a better word) by the hype and promises of developers and/or PR guys in recent years. I won't mention names in fear of derailing the OPs thread ....... you know the guilty ones.
However, I will not lie ...... vaporware has come out of my keyboard more than once in the last six years. I will admit though, Giannas apparent reviews of the beta have helped me at least get a little closer to the fence. I refuse to let myself get excited about this MMO ....... heck, any of them for that.
Time will tell, it always does........
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I chose fan. Theres no in between, but I think sceptic has too much of a negative spin to it. I have no reason to think that Darkfall will be a failure. I am going to give it a shot. No I;m not certain it will be fun, balanced, polished, whatever, but their advertimsements appeal to me.
I am a skeptic hoping beyond hope that something comes along and makes me a fan.
I guess Jan 22, 2009 will be my judgement day for Darkfall.
Darth,
I understand that english isn't your first language.. And you're not that bad at reading it.
However, Please look up the word CRITIC, You'll see that it doesn't quite fit what you want. They look at things objectivly.
Also, the majority of your post is written from the perspective of a Fanboi.. that that you have only positive and negative
Same i think about your poll (subjective perspective) cause you don't have given a good description and option to people who wait in a constructive way for the game.
Where is the "gamer who want DF to succeed because its an example of a playstyle" they may not think "DF is best game ever". What about people who like the features and want the game to succeed because of that alone ? There are fans a absolutely normal thing..
Whats here is out of proportion is the degree of hate a game receives WITHOUT it even beeing out and had the chance to do something wrong to anyone..
Also you description of the hater is not accurate.
Through my poll i have proofed that many hate the game without a reason (they don't even interested in DF) and not like you describe in your option about hater.
Also your description to the option 'critic' is depedent on bad(!) experience with other games and encourages the voter to not judge DarkFall on his own merit ..
You poll is biased too , thats for sure..
(btw critics don't look at things objectively , hence they know such a thing like objectivity doesn't exist - you should have gone with the term 'pessimist' to describe your option as in "they have a feel it may go wrong " )
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
im indifferent ill wait till jan 22 see how it is
I don't see an option to declare oneself drunk, but that is my dcision and i refuse to let anyone change my mind!
*hic* happy new year gamers
Why are there so many cutesie, fantasy, childish MMO's. Give me blood, gore and a long lasting challenge. I don't need my hand being held along the way. Thanks.
Skeptic is more a neutral and objective term... maybe you're thinking cynical as a more negative term... anywhooooo I too am insterested in DF, I saw one vid on it that looked decent... again not antyhing to blow my socks off but decent to try it out at least.
I guess only actual gameplay will determine whetther it sux or not... that is if it's ever released (i hope)
Darth,
I understand that english isn't your first language.. And you're not that bad at reading it.
However, Please look up the word CRITIC, You'll see that it doesn't quite fit what you want. They look at things objectivly.
Also, the majority of your post is written from the perspective of a Fanboi.. that that you have only positive and negative
Same i think about your poll (subjective perspective) cause you don't have given a good description and option to people who wait in a constructive way for the game.
Where is the "gamer who want DF to succeed because its an example of a playstyle" they may not think "DF is best game ever". What about people who like the features and want the game to succeed because of that alone ? There are fans a absolutely normal thing..
Whats here is out of proportion is the degree of hate a game receives WITHOUT it even beeing out and had the chance to do something wrong to anyone..
Also you description of the hater is not accurate.
Through my poll i have proofed that many hate the game without a reason (they don't even interested in DF) and not like you describe in your option about hater.
Also your description to the option 'critic' is depedent on bad(!) experience with other games and encourages the voter to not judge DarkFall on his own merit ..
You poll is biased too , thats for sure..
(btw critics don't look at things objectively , hence they know such a thing like objectivity doesn't exist)
Personally, I don't want DF to succeed nor fail, any game should do that on it own merrit once it's released to the public.
i'm actually surprised how many more sceptics there are than anyone else - interesting poll
sorry to call you on this but if you're "indifferent" then why did you even bother responding?
oopsie double.
After a pile of MMORPGs that failed to live the hype in the past, people simply will not trust another company's promises, no matter how cool they sound.
Take a pile of MMORPGs that failed to live the hype in the past then most people simply won't buy another game with tons of promises.
that would be a more cynical approach then skeptical actually. I have to admit that sometimes broken promises for devs. does tend to make the most ardent of fanbois "Jaded" but it happens. But skeptical analysis is more based on "Proof is in the pudding"... meaning that I guess we'll see when the game comes out. Will it be able to live up the the dev. hype or not?... only time will tell I guess
how about im hoping this game will be fun and the complete package and if its not i wont commit suicide and ill move on with my life. can we add that as a choice?
wouldn't that fall under Fanboi?
Take a pile of MMORPGs that failed to live the hype in the past then most people simply won't buy another game with tons of promises.
that would be a more cynical approach then skeptical actually. I have to admit that sometimes broken promises for devs. does tend to make the most ardent of fanbois "Jaded" but it happens. But skeptical analysis is more based on "Proof is in the pudding"... meaning that I guess we'll see when the game comes out. Will it be able to live up the the dev. hype or not?... only time will tell I guess
Actually I meant "won't buy" for not believing it will be delivered as said (missed "it" after the "buy"). In short, after some disappointments, I'll want to see evidence of the proposed mechanics before making claims/praise.
I'll just wait and see who buys it (again if it's ever released) and see what ppl will post on it afterwards.
shitty poll. you shouldn't be adding your own reasons behind why you think each person fits into the corresponding category. that and since not many people want to be called a fanboy or a hater, you will get an overwhelming skeptic vote.
I chose skeptic as it was the only logical choice, and most people will pick that one aswell.
LMAO I agree stupid poll. And hate? haha oh yea I have so much animosity for this game..