"It's because there's no way we'll miss a release date and we're not going to just set a date as a goal, and either postpone or be forced to release something unfinished. We resolve to stick with our release date because we know how people tend to plan around this as far as organization, time and hardware goes when they're looking to make a commitment to an MMORPG, especially a competitive one like Darkfall."
Oh yee of little faith! Check out Tasos's talking about his "philosophy" on announcing release dates: http://www.warcry.com/articles/view/devjournals/darkfalljournals/3570-Darkfall-Dev-Journal-25-Philosophy "It's because there's no way we'll miss a release date and we're not going to just set a date as a goal, and either postpone or be forced to release something unfinished. We resolve to stick with our release date because we know how people tend to plan around this as far as organization, time and hardware goes when they're looking to make a commitment to an MMORPG, especially a competitive one like Darkfall."
Hmm interesting how about this quote on the website of the developer from 2001:
"By combining groundbreaking technology and superior game design,
Razorwax will create amazingly addictive online games.
Our first MMORPG Darkfall is scheduled for release Q1 2003.
Razorwax aims at being one of the leading producers of online games,
with 3 online AAA quality games released by 2005."
Is this the same Darkfall that was started in Norway and has over the years listed numerous release dates and never met one? I bet yes since the link to Razorwax came from the original Darkfall Online website
Oh yee of little faith! Check out Tasos's talking about his "philosophy" on announcing release dates: http://www.warcry.com/articles/view/devjournals/darkfalljournals/3570-Darkfall-Dev-Journal-25-Philosophy "It's because there's no way we'll miss a release date and we're not going to just set a date as a goal, and either postpone or be forced to release something unfinished. We resolve to stick with our release date because we know how people tend to plan around this as far as organization, time and hardware goes when they're looking to make a commitment to an MMORPG, especially a competitive one like Darkfall."
Hmm interesting how about this quote on the website of the developer from 2001:
"By combining groundbreaking technology and superior game design,
Razorwax will create amazingly addictive online games.
Our first MMORPG Darkfall is scheduled for release Q1 2003.
Razorwax aims at being one of the leading producers of online games,
with 3 online AAA quality games released by 2005."
Is this the same Darkfall that was started in Norway and has over the years listed numerous release dates and never met one? I bet yes since the link to Razorwax came from the original Darkfall Online website
That doesn't seem quite fair, considering the company swap. As far as Aventurine is concerned there has only been one release date, and they haven't missed it yet.
but as of this post, biggest percent of vote is 100% no. Wow, that's a lot of negativity for a game on an MMORPG forum.
Fanbois, haters, trolls, etc., etc., yea I've heard it all. But when you get those kinds of results on a poll, as a dev team you're doing something wrong.
Based on the above, it's conceivable that we may be further along in development than several games in beta, or with announced release dates. So why don't we announce a date already? It's because there's no way we'll miss a release date and we're not going to just set a date as a goal, and either postpone or be forced to release something unfinished. We resolve to stick with our release date because we know how people tend to plan around this as far as organization, time and hardware goes when they're looking to make a commitment to an MMORPG, especially a competitive one like Darkfall.
there might be hope afterall
It is hard to tell if a man is telling the truth when you know you would lie if you were in his place
but as of this post, biggest percent of vote is 100% no. Wow, that's a lot of negativity for a game on an MMORPG forum. Fanbois, haters, trolls, etc., etc., yea I've heard it all. But when you get those kinds of results on a poll, as a dev team you're doing something wrong.
Last part isn't really true. Adevnturine never really did anything wrong, thery're just doing things in a different manor to what most newer MMO players are accustomed to. We've all seen the posts "NO PRE-ORDERS = VAPORWARE" and other such nonsense; we can blame this kind of attitude to the huge ammount of hype and advertising that accompanies most MMO launches of recent times.
It hardly has to be pointed out that barely a single MMO or expansion that has been delivered alongside a huge advertising campaign has been able to deliver to the expected standard. We've seen unfinished games, games lacking content and souless carbon copies. In light of this I believe that the under-hype that Darkfall has had from Adventurine can only be a good thing. Other than that, they have already said that they do not expect players to buy a game that they have not tried.
It looks like their marketing strategy is depending on the player liking the game, which itself depends on the game being of a high quality. The only question now is whether Adevnturine can deliver the goods. Something that we should hopefully find out come January 22nd.
Well any type of info as it gets closer to the 22nd would put a lot of people's doubts to rest , like dropping the NDA they have been hiding behind for so long now, and some stuff that people need to know like sub model?, billing options perhaps?, computer specs?, or is this hiding behind the NDA and must be kept hush hush till the 22nd?
Asking if a game will launch on its release date is like asking if you were born on your birthday.
That doesn't make sense... considering the history of this project and the fact that it hasn't been released yet.
It's more like saying... will you be born exactly when the doctor expects you to be born?... which is pretty unlikely and more in line with the history of Darkfall..
Lots of people don't think before they speak.. you won't be the first or the last =P
Nice comparison DAS. I applaud you
*EDIT* On another note, SNOW MAMMOTH NOW INCLUDED! BUY AOC NOW!
------------------------------- It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off. ------------------------------- Originally posted by atziluth... Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.
The only way I can see it being released on time is if they go 100% Digital Release - which I would like to see.
I also don't want to see this "Pre-Order" and "Head Start" rubbish that seems to have become a popular marketing ploy to wring yet more money out of consumers. But, unless they really know what they are doing, and have their plans already in place - they have left it too late. And 100% Digital has the potential to be a nightmare when everyone tries to download it at once...
Well for starters. If they are smart they made a deal with Fileplanet or something to let people download the game.
It's pretty much suicide if they gonna host the Digital Download sites themselves, seeing the hype and number of people willing to download the game.
but as of this post, biggest percent of vote is 100% no. Wow, that's a lot of negativity for a game on an MMORPG forum. Fanbois, haters, trolls, etc., etc., yea I've heard it all. But when you get those kinds of results on a poll, as a dev team you're doing something wrong.
That's because they suck at PR and Info management. Not to mention that their own site sucks and never gets updated. They still haven't updated their site with the release date lol.
So most people thinks it will not be released on 22. I voted no, (Cose I really doubt it will be released, anyway I prefer to just wait and see) but I was expecting the most votes going the Yes way.
Hmm interesting how about this quote on the website of the developer from 2001: "By combining groundbreaking technology and superior game design,
Razorwax will create amazingly addictive online games.
Our first MMORPG Darkfall is scheduled for release Q1 2003. Razorwax aims at being one of the leading producers of online games,
with 3 online AAA quality games released by 2005."
Is this the same Darkfall that was started in Norway and has over the years listed numerous release dates and never met one? I bet yes since the link to Razorwax came from the original Darkfall Online website
1) different company, pre-2003 darkfall was a different game, with a different scope.
2) they have never officially announced a release date, this is the first one, therefore, they have never missed a release date yet.
After the yesterdays interview with Tasos, I can't see any way it wouldn't release on the 22th day. Since I highly doubt Tasos would lie to the Greece media 2 weeks before the supposed release date that It will launch on 22th day.
Comments
Tough to answer this one accurately.
I was torn between No, No way, and 100% No, so i went with middle of the road, no way.
At least the question is 'will it release on time' instead of will it release... EVER?
Oh yee of little faith!
Check out Tasos's talking about Aventurines "philosophy" on announcing release dates:
http://www.warcry.com/articles/view/devjournals/darkfalljournals/3570-Darkfall-Dev-Journal-25-Philosophy
"It's because there's no way we'll miss a release date and we're not going to just set a date as a goal, and either postpone or be forced to release something unfinished. We resolve to stick with our release date because we know how people tend to plan around this as far as organization, time and hardware goes when they're looking to make a commitment to an MMORPG, especially a competitive one like Darkfall."
Hmm interesting how about this quote on the website of the developer from 2001:
"By combining groundbreaking technology and superior game design,
Razorwax will create amazingly addictive online games.
Our first MMORPG Darkfall is scheduled for release Q1 2003.
Razorwax aims at being one of the leading producers of online games,
with 3 online AAA quality games released by 2005."
Is this the same Darkfall that was started in Norway and has over the years listed numerous release dates and never met one? I bet yes since the link to Razorwax came from the original Darkfall Online website
Hmm interesting how about this quote on the website of the developer from 2001:
"By combining groundbreaking technology and superior game design,
Razorwax will create amazingly addictive online games.
Our first MMORPG Darkfall is scheduled for release Q1 2003.
Razorwax aims at being one of the leading producers of online games,
with 3 online AAA quality games released by 2005."
Is this the same Darkfall that was started in Norway and has over the years listed numerous release dates and never met one? I bet yes since the link to Razorwax came from the original Darkfall Online website
That doesn't seem quite fair, considering the company swap. As far as Aventurine is concerned there has only been one release date, and they haven't missed it yet.
Beta dates on the other hand. . .
I suppose only time will tell for sure.
I voted:
"Theres no saying otherwise so yes".
but as of this post, biggest percent of vote is 100% no. Wow, that's a lot of negativity for a game on an MMORPG forum.
Fanbois, haters, trolls, etc., etc., yea I've heard it all. But when you get those kinds of results on a poll, as a dev team you're doing something wrong.
this looks good
Based on the above, it's conceivable that we may be further along in development than several games in beta, or with announced release dates. So why don't we announce a date already? It's because there's no way we'll miss a release date and we're not going to just set a date as a goal, and either postpone or be forced to release something unfinished. We resolve to stick with our release date because we know how people tend to plan around this as far as organization, time and hardware goes when they're looking to make a commitment to an MMORPG, especially a competitive one like Darkfall.
there might be hope afterall
It is hard to tell if a man is telling the truth when you know you would lie if you were in his place
Last part isn't really true. Adevnturine never really did anything wrong, thery're just doing things in a different manor to what most newer MMO players are accustomed to. We've all seen the posts "NO PRE-ORDERS = VAPORWARE" and other such nonsense; we can blame this kind of attitude to the huge ammount of hype and advertising that accompanies most MMO launches of recent times.
It hardly has to be pointed out that barely a single MMO or expansion that has been delivered alongside a huge advertising campaign has been able to deliver to the expected standard. We've seen unfinished games, games lacking content and souless carbon copies. In light of this I believe that the under-hype that Darkfall has had from Adventurine can only be a good thing. Other than that, they have already said that they do not expect players to buy a game that they have not tried.
It looks like their marketing strategy is depending on the player liking the game, which itself depends on the game being of a high quality. The only question now is whether Adevnturine can deliver the goods. Something that we should hopefully find out come January 22nd.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
Hopefully
Well any type of info as it gets closer to the 22nd would put a lot of people's doubts to rest , like dropping the NDA they have been hiding behind for so long now, and some stuff that people need to know like sub model?, billing options perhaps?, computer specs?, or is this hiding behind the NDA and must be kept hush hush till the 22nd?
That doesn't make sense... considering the history of this project and the fact that it hasn't been released yet.
It's more like saying... will you be born exactly when the doctor expects you to be born?... which is pretty unlikely and more in line with the history of Darkfall..
Lots of people don't think before they speak.. you won't be the first or the last =P
Nice comparison DAS. I applaud you
*EDIT* On another note, SNOW MAMMOTH NOW INCLUDED! BUY AOC NOW!
-------------------------------
It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off.
-------------------------------
Originally posted by atziluth...
Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.
Well for starters. If they are smart they made a deal with Fileplanet or something to let people download the game.
It's pretty much suicide if they gonna host the Digital Download sites themselves, seeing the hype and number of people willing to download the game.
Cheers
That's because they suck at PR and Info management. Not to mention that their own site sucks and never gets updated. They still haven't updated their site with the release date lol.
So most people thinks it will not be released on 22. I voted no, (Cose I really doubt it will be released, anyway I prefer to just wait and see) but I was expecting the most votes going the Yes way.
1) different company, pre-2003 darkfall was a different game, with a different scope.
2) they have never officially announced a release date, this is the first one, therefore, they have never missed a release date yet.
Something in the 'Coffee House' thread just said bittorent for the open beta.
After the yesterdays interview with Tasos, I can't see any way it wouldn't release on the 22th day. Since I highly doubt Tasos would lie to the Greece media 2 weeks before the supposed release date that It will launch on 22th day.