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Koltrane
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Capes. Whoop-f***ing-ee. Why is there such a big deal about capes? Why has it taken them so long to implement something as simple as a cape? Geez, you'd think they were adding 50 new zones with all the bloody stink about capes. If I were NCSoft, I'd be embarassed that it has taken this long to add a flapping piece of fabric to a toon.
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That's your opinion, here is mine: They worked in capes in a good way, with a nice storyline. Yes, it would have been nice to have them from day one, but the code that was written for them did not look good when rendered, so they rewrote it, and they look great! As for "the big deal", there really isn't one - it is simply an add-on to your costume, with a relatively easy mission to complete to unlock them.
Not sure who is making a "big deal" here, you or Cryptic? They were not listed as the primary feature of the update - content was. All well, guess you can't please everyone all the time.
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From the e-mail Cryptic just sent out...
and the first story is about capes. If you don't think Cryptic has been trumpeting capes, you haven't been paying attention to news items. It's been in just about every item I've read over the last month.
Nice storyline or not, capes should just be part of the costume creation. It's pretty lame, yes in my opinion, to wait this long and treat it like some big accomplishment.
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The capes are invisible in EQ.
I think they did a nice job there, adding goals, missions, stuff to do is always good...and the level of customisation on the cape is nice.
The more you add, the better. They give you a complete control on basic look, they need to add stuff, capes might not be enought for you, yet, it is something to munch on.
- "EQ2 or WoW? I wont touch it! Not even with a stick!''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
It's not the point that the capes look good or are customizable, the point is capes are something that should have been in the game when it was released. It's a SUPERHERO game for cryin' out loud. So instead of saying: "Well we finally got it worked out, here are you're capes," they took that attidude of "Look at how great we are for giving you capes. All should bow before us for finally giving you something that should have happened when we released the game."
I really don't get the level of obvious animosity in these posts for Cryptic adding capes to the game. YES, they should have been in there from the beginning ::slaps to Cryptic::. Bad Cryptic! Bad! I agree, it is a superhero game, and it SHOULD have had capes. But, it didn't.
So now they added them, did a great job of working it in to the storyline, and made them look great - and you people are mad at them for that? I don't get it. Would you have preferred to have them leave them out for good? Or are you just mad for them marketing it now as a feature? Folks, marketing is marketing, and companies - ANY company - markets whatever they can, whenever they can. Reality of business. Seems that there is a lot of anger towards them over something any company would market - a new, pretty feature. Seen MANY other, bigger companies do worse. Anyway, like I said, it's your opinion, and you're entitled to it.
Doesn't mean I have to agree, or even understand it.
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At least they waited until they got it right to add it in instead of putting in some crap version of capes and improving on it later. *cough...SWG...cough, cough*
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lol one good reason they probaly didn tpu tcapes in till later is imagaine closed beta open beta with all the other htings they had to do deal with lag etc to sort out. Then you have alll the new peopel comin form buyin retail etc all the issues with disconnects lag etc alot of those still had to be ironed out.
Thus they waited most likely till they could implement capes and not wind up hundreds of movin capes that might get have bugs and crash the game with all the lag or code faults.
Also another eason why to put capes as important is so many people pushin to get them in so they made sure it was right in front capes were bein put in since is important to be able to have capes on a super hero would been stupid to down play it like oh yeah were puttin capes in.. They made sure was done right.
Your opinion is sadly a disappointing one. I believe that he Capes introduction was a fantastic development in the game, creatively handled and much appreciated. Why did they make such a big thing about Capes? Well, if you read the boards when the game launched one of the things that most players moaned about it was the lack of capes. Now we have them, the game is enriched as they are a staple of the super=hero genre. I'm happy; you should be too!
I love CoH and Cryptic but...
They add Accolade when they do not work well, when you have tons of info on what to do with anything(primary, secondary and any power, look customization), except nothing with accolades.
Accolade aggro many casuals.
Accolade make me stop play all my alternates in current form.
Maybe I am superficial and so are my rl friends, but they do GOOD and BAD moves. The capes was a GOOD move althought to slow. Accolade, I dont say it is bad, but they need to rework it a lot!
So dont go saying they wait for it to work to implement it, and dont say it is good to wait. I prefer the alpha stage with all bugs then be completely waiting personnally. In the precise case of Cape, they wait, but in the case of accolade, they implement directly, in an alpha stage. It have it up, and it down.
I just hope they are FAR from done with it, because in current form, it certainly hinder the game more then it help it, however, in the long run, it might turn wonderfull.
Ano
PS: My casuals friends aggro because they feel that they need to do some precise boring stuff rather then do what they like, which I cant argue with them, it is what the accolade is doing with it bonus stats if you dont like the way you need to earn it. On me, it make me stop playing alternates, I cant afford to not developp my main character, so much work ahead, and anyway, my alternate is doomed to lack until I have major times to allow it, which is why I dont play them. Accolades are a GREAT ideas, but they are an alpha stage and hopefully will get implemented a better way.
- "Some peoples think I am a geek because, they say, that I think I save the world. They are wrong, I dont think I save the world, I did save the world!''
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Should CoH have had capes from the start? Probably. But then again would you truly appreciate having one if you werent' denied it from the start?
Getting them right was also a step in the right direction (any Blizzard games come to mind?) rather than release half-loaded crap. So, instead of "Aw, when can I get a cape!?" You'd have, "D*mn sucky capes! Why the hell couldn't they make em look better?" And CoH already has enough of the why-doesn't-it-look-better complaints (armors, power looks, just about anything you can think of even thought the graphics rock. Some people just need something to complain about to be happy.)
And yes I think the instituted story is a good one as well. The remembrance of a past hero who gave his all before his death. Reminds me of yesterday, Oct 11, 2004...
... when Superman really did die. Christopher Reeves passed away yesterday for those that didn't know. A number of heros in CoH are taking off their capes once again in his memory.
Depending on who you are you can laugh at this, or you can respect it. The greatest thing is the choice is yours.
As for the capes. Did you quest for one? Is your character now complete with a cape? If the answer is yes then CoH has done what they've promised to do. And that is enough for me.
Some people are crazy
Would you rather have the game when you did, then have a chance to get to 20 and THEN have them implement AWESOME looking capes?
Lets wait up here, maybe some of you don't understand how much work was needed to make the capes the way they were, you see how they sway in the wind and react to movement? Yes? Well it REALLY isn't easy to put that in.
Lets continue....
Or would you rather have those bland looking capes in DAoC with nothing but an SG/Guild symbol on the back?
Your choice.
EDIT: Oh and about the acolades, some people take this thing FAR to seriously, especially seeing as there is not even PvP here yet, but the accolades add 5% maybe 10% of end/health at a time, you really gonna stop playing your alts because you feel you NEED to get that extra 20 endurance with 2 acolades? Didn't think so, like I said, some people are crazy.
Let's see... Most of you paid $50 for this game, and didn't get capes, right? And now you can? How much more did it cost you? $0? So what's the problem?
"WELL IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE SOONER!" Of course it should have. It's not like the only aspect of the update was capes - there was other content. Seriously, I think some of you on here complain just for the sake of complaining about something. The capes aren't bugged at all, and they don't make the gameplay any more enjoyable than it already is (meaning you can't gripe about the monthly fees you "wasted" playing with capeless heroes) so what's the problem?
Are you guys going to piss and moan every time the game gets a new addition it supposedly should have had before? Hey, Paragon City just isn't big enough. The eight new areas they added SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDED IN THE BEGINNING!!!
Aren't they working on Spiderman-esque abilities for the next update? BIG EFFING DEAL. THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDED UPON LAUNCH. IT'S A SUPER HERO GAME, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!
Here, I'll make a poll for you guys to vote on how Cryptic should "fix" this "problem:"
"relatively easy mission"? I tried that damned thing 10 times and failed every one of them. I was level 28 and had a group of 4. It was ridiculously hard!!
Okay heres where you seperate the children(the original poster) and the grown ups(people who haven't flamed cryptic about capes).
NO they should not of been there in the beginning, like back in beta rumour was there NEVER was going to be capes. But boom they are back, and they are wonderful.
Okay now why you are children. Do you even know how long it takes to make a game? okay you guys complain about bugs and shit like that, do you live in fairyland? where the birds crap million dollar bills, and jesus is your best friend? You don't? then how come you expect everything to be perfect? Each update something new is added, and your like it should of been sooner, it shoulda been sooner. LETS SEE YOU MAKE ALL THESE FEATURES SOONER!!!
It takes TIME to make features, new stuff will be added and when it is be happy, people who whine about stuff like capes not being in at the start, you don't even deserve to have a computer. When YOU can program and design capes to sway in the wind and move with your character, and do that while coding in new features such as new areas new monsters changes to features. And work on a entire expansion for the game. All at the same time and then when someone says to you "why are you taking so long"
And i mean come in with a near perfect product. They are trying to make the game, and if you are such a fucking genious enough to actually criticize their hard work, then why don't you make yourself a perfect game.
If you got everything right away youd want more, if you dont get it right away you want it sooner. Stop finding EVERY SINGLE THING YOU CAN PUT YOUR HANDS ON, to bitch about.
also the mission will have mobs based on your level, and the ammount of people you have with you, a mission with 4-5 people will make it harder, i soloed it at 20, no problems, more people=harder missions. always remember it
2 answers: My brain: Agree with you, there is nothing I cant say about that.
My heart: Disagree, completely. My 2 casuals friends(3 accounts on themselves) left over it, and I stop completely playing my alternates.
Which, between my brain and my heart do you believe command my desire to play CoH? My brain will tell you that it still wonder why I am doing that, what is the point? I dont see anyone in RL from that, I dont do anything awesome, I dont achieve anything serious...and my heart say I save the world. However brain say it could be worser and less ''thinking'' could be plaguing the game, so not complaining to much on it.
I am taking those accolades seriously...VERY seriously. So are my casuals friends(they cancel accounts).
Am I crazy? Maybe, but it is about FUN...and accolades remove more then add in actual form.
My main did the accolades. I completely stop logging my alternates unless persons specifically ask me to play them or switch to an alternate, which mean they are statics and wont evolve much, ever. (they where backward, awfully backward, but I was playing them, from time to time, before the accolades)
1% is a LOT, every little bit matter, a LOT! And guess what...I cant care less about PvP, neither does any of my casual friends. It is about the PvE aspect that we all care. If CoV give 1% in a PvP setting(exclusively or easier) and it affect the PvE aspect, I will quit, right away. If you disagree, what about, as a gesture of goodwill, get a -15% on your toon, alone, no other player getting it, just to show how little it matter.
CAPE SPOILER: You have 3 choices to succeed easily, and althought I dont recommend doing either, should you feel frustrated, they all work. 1- Start the mission alone, then invite your group, you will have mobs for 1 person, if you fail that I am speechless. 2- Exemplar an higher level, he can un-exemplar at any critical moment to make it a success rather then a failure. 3- Gain more levels after you pick the quest before doing it.
RESPEC: Strangely, the first time is the hardest with the freaks(Rez are usually left behind, which mean they do a LOT of damage before been taken down as first target), by far. The more you advance, the easier it get. My group members where faaking against the Rikti...
- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Capes are fab, the way they move, blow in the wind, customizable options.
I prefer something to take longer and be done well, as does my gf
Btw what about auras, I think they are cool too. Oh dear you dont have those in your MMORG do you? :-)
No I have about a million and 1 things to do in other MMO'S besides look at pretty lights around my toon. Since all you can do in CoH is fight and look good guess it makes sense.