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Here is what I think

dbj3569dbj3569 Member Posts: 5

 Ok, not that any of you care…

 I've been following the soap opera known as the, "Darkfall General Discussion" forums, for quite some time now. My overall opinion about some of the people that post here… A large majority of you want Darkfall to be a failure. It seems you’ve already made up your mind that it will be a failure, so now you are on an endless crusade to convince everyone else that it has no chance.

I suppose this is because, whatever game you’re currently playing is your favorite, and you have some sort of gaming insecurity going on. I don’t know… maybe some of you guys should go back to school, become a game developer, and see how good you do creating a game thousands or millions will pay to play.

Let’s be real, most gaming communities… are a bunch of professional complainers anyways. No matter how much the developer tweaks and optimizes…it’s never enough. Sad that a game 99% of you have never played gets so much animosity.

Personally, I don’t care if Darkfall flops, or is the greatest MMO of all time. I am pulling for the latter however, as it has features that definitely are interesting to me, and are a refreshing improvement (hopefully) from the newer and dated games out now. It is definitely a game that I am willing to buy & try. I’m not all that concerned about every major gaming site not being plastered with release and preorder ads. Perhaps in several months, you will.

I don’t have a lengthy resume of MMO games on my playlist. I’m sure this automatically renders anything I say irrelevant, but that is ok.  I’ve tried a few, and I’m currently playing Warhammer Online. It’s ok for the time being, I have encroached upon endgame, far too soon I may add, but it’s providing me some fun. PvP is lacking, but it is what it is. I tend to become really involved with a game I enjoy, regardless how mainstream it is. I’ve never played WoW.

One thing... Many gamers today are all about leveling that newest class to max level in a week… but whatever…. All MMOs should take months, even years to reach endgame IMO. Not weeks~

My main thing is… I don’t mind buying a game for retail, trying it through a trial period, then deciding if I want to renew. MMO games are made by people that are dedicated to the genre. For years they work long hours, producing a game that they hope… you and I will enjoy. So, I don’t mind giving back to support the cause.

I’m looking forward to the release of DF. It’s been in development a long time, and hopefully the waits have definitely been worth it, but if it fails to live up to expectations or server stability is a major issue…so what? I’m not going to cry and complain about it. And neither should you.

If the game is not released, again…so what? It’s not like you’re owed anything anyways. I think a lot of you guys should spend more time actually playing MMOs, than coming on here and whining and arguing about them. Go read some EULAs or something….you’ll get the big picture then.

*Just to get this out of the way… I’m not better than anyone else here. We are all equal individuals free to express our own opinions and pretty much say whatever we want to say. So carry on.*

/rant

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  • SecretDogSecretDog Member Posts: 4
    Originally posted by dbj3569


     *Just to get this out of the way… I’m not better than anyone else here. We are all equal individuals free to express our own opinions and pretty much say whatever we want to say. So carry on.*
    /rant



     

    Erm... that seems to contradict everything you just said, but yeah, ok (?)

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  • daelnordaelnor Member UncommonPosts: 1,556

    Your opinion is certainly valid.  However, there are about 90,000 post threads exactly like this one already...could've just posted on one of those.

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  • daylight01daylight01 Member Posts: 2,250

    I dont see that many hater's here,sure there are some just as there are fanboi's,I think most here are skeptics,just like me and who can blame us?

    Lets put Darfall to 1 side for a moment and look at the big name releases over the past 3 years,games like AoC and WAR,huge budgets and lets be honest they flopped as did other games like VG and TR.

    Most mmo's that have released recently have been huge dissapointments,so now there is DF getting a release date,very little is known of the game itself and with only 10 day's to go not much info is being released even at this point,so if you add the unkown quailty of this game to the recent release failure's then you cant really blame people for being very skeptical towards DF.

    I hope the game is really good(god knows we need a good release in this genre) but if it isnt and turns out to be a right mess then at least we wont have to read "Darkfall releasing in the next few months"ever again!

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  • winterwinter Member UncommonPosts: 2,281

     Always weird when someone starts a thread, writes a large block of text claiming they "don't care" but that in fact they do care and are pulling for the game. Is it multiple personalies, a failure to understand the english they are typing or what? 

       Its actually ok to take a stance on things ie care. Don't be such a profound Waffle  

       Apologies in advance if I hurt anyones feelings    

     Oh as to the rest of your post. You had some points but also pretty much painted the whole thing with the broad generalization paintbrush, and backed it up with little to no facts, just opinions. Which is ok as long as your respect other peoples right to have opinions different then yours. Something I'd say your post didn't convay.

      Some people like the OP are perfectly fine buying a game basically blind, others aren't. Its his risk. I'm guessing he never tried DnL Darkfall might be the greatest game ever as Tasos and its Fans here hype it, me I'd rather have a bit more info then blindly follow like a sheep.

  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333

    How can a sceptic have an opinion about a game ?

    True sceptics can't trust their own opinion ..but then we have he5re so called "sceptics" troll the forum ..

    We play this game here long enough to know your foo "wear a 'sceptic mask' to troll the forums" is the game those play...

    OP thanks for you post , i found it very refreshing :)

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  • goodwwwibesgoodwwwibes Member Posts: 4

    I agree that everyone shoud more enjoy life then just spending time speaking about something which still is not to speak about...DF has new idea..even if it fails...Evolution of this ganre will take that  idea. Someone will make it.  Till that time we can play whatever we have..or play with RealLife. :-)

    All good to everyone, no good to noone

  • AshrikAshrik Member Posts: 381

    Well that's unfair DarthRaiden. Someone who brands themselves as a sKeptic here is obviously talking about being skeptical about Darkfall in whatever context they're talking about. It's not a life decision, I don't believe the moon landing was a hoax or anything like that. What I DO doubt, however, is the ability of this (or any) game to match the expectations of some of the wide, glassy-eyed, fanatical followers.

  • winterwinter Member UncommonPosts: 2,281
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden


    How can a sceptic have an opinion about a game ?
    True sceptics can't trust their own opinion ..but then we have he5re so called "sceptics" troll the forum ..
    We play this game here long enough to know your foo "wear a 'sceptic mask' to troll the forums" is the game those play...
    OP thanks for you post , i found it very refreshing :)



     

    DarthRaiden you out do yourself. So now only fans or haters can have a opinion? You did just above state skeptics can't have a opinion, because while they do have a opinion they don't trust it, and therefor all skeptics are trolls?

      WoW your logic hurts, no really trying to understand how someone that doubts something has to doubt their own opinion and thus can't have a opinion really hurts ones brains trying to figure out your logic. The condrum ie. If you don't have a opinion how can you doubt it? But since you doubt the opinion you have you therefor can't have one. (LOL)

    No IMO thats just Darths way of saying only fans should be able to post their opinions here. (or anywhere)

  • EvasiaEvasia Member Posts: 2,827
    Originally posted by dbj3569


     Ok, not that any of you care…
     I've been following the soap opera known as the, "Darkfall General Discussion" forums, for quite some time now. My overall opinion about some of the people that post here… A large majority of you want Darkfall to be a failure. It seems you’ve already made up your mind that it will be a failure, so now you are on an endless crusade to convince everyone else that it has no chance.
    I suppose this is because, whatever game you’re currently playing is your favorite, and you have some sort of gaming insecurity going on. I don’t know… maybe some of you guys should go back to school, become a game developer, and see how good you do creating a game thousands or millions will pay to play.
    Let’s be real, most gaming communities… are a bunch of professional complainers anyways. No matter how much the developer tweaks and optimizes…it’s never enough. Sad that a game 99% of you have never played gets so much animosity.
    Personally, I don’t care if Darkfall flops, or is the greatest MMO of all time. I am pulling for the latter however, as it has features that definitely are interesting to me, and are a refreshing improvement (hopefully) from the newer and dated games out now. It is definitely a game that I am willing to buy & try. I’m not all that concerned about every major gaming site not being plastered with release and preorder ads. Perhaps in several months, you will.
    I don’t have a lengthy resume of MMO games on my playlist. I’m sure this automatically renders anything I say irrelevant, but that is ok.  I’ve tried a few, and I’m currently playing Warhammer Online. It’s ok for the time being, I have encroached upon endgame, far too soon I may add, but it’s providing me some fun. PvP is lacking, but it is what it is. I tend to become really involved with a game I enjoy, regardless how mainstream it is. I’ve never played WoW.
    One thing... Many gamers today are all about leveling that newest class to max level in a week… but whatever…. All MMOs should take months, even years to reach endgame IMO. Not weeks~
    My main thing is… I don’t mind buying a game for retail, trying it through a trial period, then deciding if I want to renew. MMO games are made by people that are dedicated to the genre. For years they work long hours, producing a game that they hope… you and I will enjoy. So, I don’t mind giving back to support the cause.
    I’m looking forward to the release of DF. It’s been in development a long time, and hopefully the waits have definitely been worth it, but if it fails to live up to expectations or server stability is a major issue…so what? I’m not going to cry and complain about it. And neither should you.
    If the game is not released, again…so what? It’s not like you’re owed anything anyways. I think a lot of you guys should spend more time actually playing MMOs, than coming on here and whining and arguing about them. Go read some EULAs or something….you’ll get the big picture then.
    *Just to get this out of the way… I’m not better than anyone else here. We are all equal individuals free to express our own opinions and pretty much say whatever we want to say. So carry on.*
    /rant



     

    Very good post many should read it, but im affraid only a few will pick it up and undertsand what your saying.

    Its educational enough to be some value for some:)

    Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
    In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.

  • DameonkDameonk Member UncommonPosts: 1,914
    Originally posted by dbj3569


    A large majority of you want Darkfall to be a failure. It seems you’ve already made up your mind that it will be a failure, so now you are on an endless crusade to convince everyone else that it has no chance.

     

    Someone's got to balance out all of the people that think Darkfall is going to be the biggest thing to happen to MMOs since WoW.  You know, those people who seem to be on an endless crusade to convince everyone else that Darkfall is actually going to be everything it's supposed to be.

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  • dbj3569dbj3569 Member Posts: 5

    My above post is mostly a rant, which tries to vaguely touch on a few of the popular topics around here concerning this game and the state of mind of others. It’s not written very well, but it tries to target a few of the negative opinions and skepticism of the state of this game, while trying to say “don’t be so uptight about it all.”

    This post is just a continuing rant basically.

    It’s no big deal really. I created a topic, which in a broad paintbrush kind of way, brushed lightly on a few things. The reader will take from it what they want to, and we’ll all go about our way. No facts are offered, because I’m not stating anything above requiring them. One can browse the forums and get all the negative and positive opinions of others about DF. I’m just sharing my own opinion in general, because I kind of just wanted to. I simply wanted to share what I think about some of the post I have read here, and last I checked I was free to create my own thread to do so.

    Believe it or not, I really don’t care if DF flops or makes it big. It’s just another game. I’ll try it, and then see what happens from there. Sure, I have an interest in the game or I wouldn’t be here in the first place, but I do not require to be constantly updated about it. I do not have a positive or negative opinion about it, because I have not played it. I’m not trying to sway opinion to one side or the other. I am pointing out that none of us have played this game. Information or not it can’t be judged at the present time.

    A poster above mentioned he is just skeptical, because recent titles have failed and he just wants a good title for the genre. I can understand that, but at the same time, who has labeled these other games failures? Mainstream has. It’s not the people actively playing these titles. AoC has paid subscribers. And so does WAR, as I am I paid subscriber. I migrated to a populated server for Warhammer, and we have battles that involve hundreds of people. I enjoy playing it, but it’s just not quite what I’m looking for in PvP. Now, with a new release (Darkfall) people are hoping it will be the GOAT.

    Another poster above says he wants more info before he blindly follows like a sheep. Now if you think about this for just a moment…who are the sheep?  Here is the thing, too many people want to play what is popular and not play what they enjoy. That is fine with me, I can’t change that nor do I want to. People are going to do what they want. There are plenty of MMO gamers that play what they want, and do not care what mainstream thinks.

    Maybe…

    MMOs are what you want to get out of it. I think I tried to make that point in my previous post, and more so, in this one. It’s like if a game comes out and I can sit there and play it for hours a day, every day, and have fun, I don’t care what Joe and his mainstream mob thinks about it. Everyone wants a game to come along and be the WoW killer. At least I think that is what everyone wants. Or maybe everyone just wants everyone playing the same game, so that it has millions of scripts.  I don’t know what people want, because with every new game released they write it off within the first month.  MMOs are basically public paid betas. It requires several months, even a year or more for a game to become a polished gem. It’s just nowadays, everyone lacks patience.

    Anyways, I have spent probably way too much time writing about all this. It was just an impulse forum post at first. Happy gaming to you all! 

  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 10,033

            I'm not sure what is so enticing to so many about this game....i went and watched some vids (about 5 or 6 different ones) on youtube the other day and the ones they have there are not very impressive at all.....The player movements were very herky jerky and the interface looked pretty lame......The graphics looked dated, like it was 5 years old or so.....If I had to make a decision based on what I saw in those vids i would say no thanks......It doesnt even look up to par with the f2ps like Runes of Magic or Perfect World......Darkfall just strikes me as a game that reminds people of their days in UO because ot the rulesets and FFA PVP........At this point I just dont think it is going to fly in 2009.......Alot of people may give it a try but I dont see alot sticking with it for very long.......

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