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It might be old news for some of you techies..
But its almost as Windows 7 was made for gaming, it runs games fast, smooth, and flawlessly!
Absolutly no problem with any games (even crysis!) unlike vista.
Welcome back windows, into the gaming world
(the most amazing part is that Windows 7 is only in beta, and it has no problems already! Lets just hope microsoft dosent screw it up and have a re-run of vista all over again)
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It uses the same resources as Vista just "looks like/feels like" better performance. If you can tweak it to use less resources then XP. Then it'll be good for gaming.
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If you weren't using windows for gaming, what were you using...? I dont think Ubuntu/Linux/Mac are that great either, XP by far is better than them.
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You know, I've had a problem with every game that I play on my PC. I get about a 5 second graphical delay on just about every game that I play, new or old, and my computer has high-end hardware. I'm beginning to suspect that Vista is the culprit.
The culprit probably lies with your Hard Drive. Hard Drive is next bottle-neck after Processor, Video Card, and memory.
After reading the reviews on Windows 7, I don't think it is much too look forward too and still has a year before release. Its a nice free OS for my computers without an operating system; but I don't think I would like to use a beta on my main system. The reason I say this is because it isn't much of a step up from Vista SP1.
Vista SP1 included many of the code optimizations that Windows 7 includes. At its core Windows 7 is Windows Vista with code optimization. As far as the other problem of Vista where it doesn't allow full access to your system, Windows 7 has this problem but worse.
I think the big difference is the state of hardware now and stigma. The common system today should run vista with no problems considering 2 GB Ram and a dual core processor are standard. Vista really hasn't gotten away from its launch stigma of being a poorly optimized OS. Even though all of Windows OS for the 6 months after their release have had such problems. The OS is now optimized and people still think its just as bad as before.
Personally, I don't see a reason to upgrade from Vista for atleast 2 years after the release of Windows 7 considering that OS will also have 6 months of issues and pretty much anything Windows 7 can support Windows Vista will be able to.
I am wondering how microsoft plans there next Operating system. The rumor is that the next windows version will be Windows Cloud. In it you basically have a mediocre PC that is capable of recieving and playing HD movies. You then pay a subscription that determines how good a PC you have. Like you pay for one that can play games at full settings for $20/month, or one that plays all games at medium settings for $8/month. What happens is that what you are working on or playing is calculated at thier computer network, then the result is sent over the internet and your computer pretty much turns into a TV. I am wondering if they will offer a second option incase there are people like me who like to fiddle with hardware and make a killer system to play games or work on apps at whatever setting I like.
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Welcome back to the world of gaming? Windows never left...it's not as if macs are making great strides in the areas of...well...anything but elitist douche baggery.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Glad I skipped Vista. I bought a laptop that came with it and couldnt stand it.
never had many gaming problems with vista. Hell even Diablo 2 runs on it. And you know Windows 7 runs off of vista's compatibility and drivers ..... right?
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I've never had a problem with Vista. The only people who complain about Vista are the ones who have never used it, or the people who heard all the negative spin around it, got one error message and uninstalled immediately.
I'll upgrade to 7 just to be up-to-date.
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I haven't gamed with windows 7 yet, but haven't had much motivation as everything runs perfectly on my vista install, and I don't plan on doing much since that partition has much more harddrive space than the windows 7 one.
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For now, yes. In the OS programming, Microsoft left the OS designation identifier a "6" ( for Vista) to make use of the current drivers and software. When 7 launches, it will be changed to a "7" to properly identify the OS as Windows 7, therefore requiring its own drivers to be used.
Most of us complain that WoW is crap, yet 15 million people bought it and play it. So obviously, if something is good, no matter how many say it is trash, it will succeed.
So explain why Windows Vista sales are so dismal from launch 'til now. Explain why Windows XP got yet another extenson to it's life cycle. Obviously, if Vista was that good, naysayers wouldn't matter.
And to clear up some misconception, while 7 does share much of the same programming as Vista, it is different in how that programming is done. Windows 7 is modular, which means the minimum of functions are reliant on the kernel. It is also streamlined, removing a large percentage of the "bloat" caused by Vista's non-optimized kernel and related software functions. Windows Vista got better with SP1, but you cannot fix the kernel or "core" of an openly released and used OS. It has to be written from the beginning. This is what is being done with 7.
Just like transitioning from 2000 to ME to XP, we now have XP >VistaME > Windows 7.
For example, on this comp with Vista I had to disable all the "frills" of Vista whenever I gamed so I wouldn't get the performance hit.
Now with 7, I leave all the frills on and game with no problem AND get better framerates.
Comp specs:
P4 single core with hyperthreading 2.6GHz
2gb DDR 400mHz dual channel ram
AGP 7600GS with 256mb ram
This is what's important. Most people without big-budget comps got crappy performance from Vista. Those same people will be able to run Windows 7 with no prob.
And THAT is where an OS' success comes from. Not the hardcore gamer with an I7, 3 or 4 GTX280's and 8 gigs of DDR3 ram. But the average Joe Schmoe consumer who wants to listen to music, watch movies, send e-mail, and do their taxes. Which is one of the biggest reasons Vista failed.
For now, yes. In the OS programming, Microsoft left the OS designation identifier a "6" ( for Vista) to make use of the current drivers and software. When 7 launches, it will be changed to a "7" to properly identify the OS as Windows 7, therefore requiring its own drivers to be used.
wrong, the kernal is staying the same, period. New drivers are not going to be required. Let's face it Windows 7 is Vista with a facelift to appease all the whiney crybabies that hate Vista because it dares to exist or because it has to be someone elses fault that they don't know how to use their computer. Although according to next post you made, reality isn't important to you. Than again that is how we got to this point, fourms get filling with people spouting pure BS and there are pean dumb enough to listen to them.
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For now, yes. In the OS programming, Microsoft left the OS designation identifier a "6" ( for Vista) to make use of the current drivers and software. When 7 launches, it will be changed to a "7" to properly identify the OS as Windows 7, therefore requiring its own drivers to be used.
wrong, the kernal is staying the same, period. New drivers are not going to be required. Let's face it Windows 7 is Vista with a facelift to appease all the whiney crybabies that hate Vista because it dares to exist or because it has to be someone elses fault that they don't know how to use their computer. Although according to next post you made, reality isn't important to you. Than again that is how we got to this point, fourms get filling with people spouting pure BS and there are pean dumb enough to listen to them.
Well, i just go by what I read in the developer blogs and the TechNet forums. So please feel free to link me to a spot so I may be corrected. And because it is not an entirely new kernel, does not make it "the same, period".
And by the way, i know how to use my computer. And I don't hate Vista for existing, I hate it for being a bloated piece of shit. Just thought I'd clear that up for you. And here I thought all the elitist bullshit was relegated to PvPers.
Sounds like a GPU heat problem to me.
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Hey Zorvan, do you have a link for that info? I was looking for it but couldn't find anything... the last I heard, they were planning on keeping the 6.1 version to retain application/hardware compatibility. (windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2008/10/14/why-7.aspx)
Not arguing with you, just didn't know if there was an article or post I missed.
Sounds like a GPU heat problem to me.
I've got a liquid cooling fan, and 2 regular fans. Though, I suppose it might be possible, given the fact that I've got a 1 GB Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT in there. But still, how would I fix it?
EDIT: Aside from, you know, adding more fans.
Sounds like a GPU heat problem to me.
I've got a liquid cooling fan, and 2 regular fans. Though, I suppose it might be possible, given the fact that I've got a 1 GB Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT in there. But still, how would I fix it?
EDIT: Aside from, you know, adding more fans.
Wow nice, I'd have to look at it but guessing I would say is the 8800 overclocked? Could you turn the mhz/ram down on it and see how games work?
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Hey Zorvan, do you have a link for that info? I was looking for it but couldn't find anything... the last I heard, they were planning on keeping the 6.1 version to retain application/hardware compatibility. (windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2008/10/14/why-7.aspx)
Not arguing with you, just didn't know if there was an article or post I missed.
Yeah, looks like you're right, there. I was thinking of one of the earlier beta discussions when they were throwing a bunch of "what we can do" scenarios around. I believe it was in the TechNet forums. I'll look through and see what I can find, but it's kinda like this place when it comes to having to dig through a thousand posts just to find the one you're looking for.
Keeping the 6.1 for compatibility makes sense, since they did the same from 2000/XP. So, for now, looks like 6.1 it is. Unless I, you, or anyone can find a newer post than that one regarding the naming designation.
Sounds like a GPU heat problem to me.
I've got a liquid cooling fan, and 2 regular fans. Though, I suppose it might be possible, given the fact that I've got a 1 GB Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT in there. But still, how would I fix it?
EDIT: Aside from, you know, adding more fans.
Wow nice, I'd have to look at it but guessing I would say is the 8800 overclocked? Could you turn the mhz/ram down on it and see how games work?
I'd check the power supply with a voltmeter. Sounds like insufficient power. Make sure to add up the power consumption of all your hardware at peak load and compare to the supplies total output. That card by itself puts a good size tax on power, much less with the watercooling unit, fans, and everything else.
I've had so-called top of the line power supplies turn out to be faulty/insufficient right out of the box.
On the Vista end, make sure you have the power saver settings set to performance. The power saving feature can cause a delay in power if set to conserve power.
I've got a 600 Watt Power supply, I suppose it might not be enough. I should probably do some tweaking, but I currently have my Vista power settings at max. And I'm not really overclocking my card, but we'll see.
Yep, I'm betting that's it. 600 watts isn't going to be enough with all the power your systems gonna be sucking down, OC'd or not. It's probably on the edge. I'd go no less than a 750watt, and maybe even an 800 or 900.
Yep, I'm betting that's it. 600 watts isn't going to be enough with all the power your systems gonna be sucking down, OC'd or not. It's probably on the edge. I'd go no less than a 750watt, and maybe even an 800 or 900.
I miss the old cards that had a External powersuply. But im with Zorvan. Grab a good power supply, get one that says 80% E in it. and test that out. If it dosent work take it back to the dealler.
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Find one at your local computer store or just take the Plunge. that is what i got powering my system atm. Learned a long time ago that you can never have enough power.
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Yep, I'm betting that's it. 600 watts isn't going to be enough with all the power your systems gonna be sucking down, OC'd or not. It's probably on the edge. I'd go no less than a 750watt, and maybe even an 800 or 900.
Well, I guess I know what I'm doing with my next paycheck then...
Yep, I'm betting that's it. 600 watts isn't going to be enough with all the power your systems gonna be sucking down, OC'd or not. It's probably on the edge. I'd go no less than a 750watt, and maybe even an 800 or 900.
I miss the old cards that had a External powersuply. But im with Zorvan. Grab a good power supply, get one that says 80% E in it. and test that out. If it dosent work take it back to the dealler.
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Find one at your local computer store or just take the Plunge. that is what i got powering my system atm. Learned a long time ago that you can never have enough power.
That Cooler Master would definitely be a good buy, especially when it comes time for an upgrade to a gtx280 ( or a couple of 'em ).
Yep, I'm betting that's it. 600 watts isn't going to be enough with all the power your systems gonna be sucking down, OC'd or not. It's probably on the edge. I'd go no less than a 750watt, and maybe even an 800 or 900.
I miss the old cards that had a External powersuply. But im with Zorvan. Grab a good power supply, get one that says 80% E in it. and test that out. If it dosent work take it back to the dealler.
Linkie to a strong one
Find one at your local computer store or just take the Plunge. that is what i got powering my system atm. Learned a long time ago that you can never have enough power.
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How about this one? It's a little more in my price range at the moment.