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How is performance these days?

I played the first month or so it was out.

I have a 1.8 duel core, 2gig ram, and an ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT, 256mb....

 

I run CoV at top settings, DDO good... WoW good... But I lagged in WAR. T1 and T2 were ok...

But I lagged in castle seiges, major cities, and a little bit in Tor Amok or whatever it was called (w/ the lava).

 

If I resubbed today, would I run better?

 

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  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    All those games are old, you GFX card is a bit on the slow side and would really need more memory.

    Running 5 year old games and new ones are totally different, if you want to run new games good you need to get a new GFX card.

    It would probably run a little better than before but you still can't run it on better than low with that.

  • LustmordLustmord Member UncommonPosts: 1,114

    so it's my graphics card, and not my proccessor?

     My graphics card is Dx10 capable.. I thought it was good?

  • HairwolfHairwolf Member Posts: 43
    Originally posted by Lustmord


    so it's my graphics card, and not my proccessor?
     My graphics card is Dx10 capable.. I thought it was good?

     

    From what i've read about WAR and from what i've personally seen i'd say, judging from your spec that it might be a combination .

    WAR's apparently quite ram and cpu hungry, and while i can't be sure, it looks like, from vids, screenshots etc, that it has effects such as HDR lighting and bloom, depth of field etc, all of which hit GPUs hard.

    Of course most games have the options to disable this stuff and scale to different specs.

    Were you running the game at max?

     

    Played: WoW, Lotro, AoC, Eve, CoX.
    Shortly be playing: WAR and champions if the release date holds.

  • veritasallveritasall Member UncommonPosts: 153

    I'd make sure I disabled the spell effects on others and set it for 'self'. You miss a lot of fancy effects but big battles don't become side shows.

  • PheacePheace Member Posts: 2,408

    It's funny, I used to do the same thing in Daoc -_- (Self animations only)

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  • LondonMagusLondonMagus Member Posts: 700

    I bought a new rig before Xmas & get no lag at all apart from with certain spell effects in RvR & Scenarios.

    I play Destruction & whilst the rest of the time I can happily use 'Maximum Settings', the 'Dazzle Attack' used by the 'Knight of the Blazing Sun' send my machine into 'Bullet Time' even if I try lowering all the quality settings right down.

    The only way to stop it seems to be to disable enemy spell effects. I assume this is some sort of graphics bug though because other players have reported the same thing.

    Hopefully they will fix it soon & I can enjoy the game properly.

    If you can't "Have your cake & eat it too", then how can "The proof of the pudding be in the eating"?

  • HairwolfHairwolf Member Posts: 43
    Originally posted by LondonMagus


    I bought a new rig before Xmas & get no lag at all apart from with certain spell effects in RvR & Scenarios.
    I play Destruction & whilst the rest of the time I can happily use 'Maximum Settings', the 'Dazzle Attack' used by the 'Knight of the Blazing Sun' send my machine into 'Bullet Time' even if I try lowering all the quality settings right down.
    The only way to stop it seems to be to disable enemy spell effects. I assume this is some sort of graphics bug though because other players have reported the same thing.
    Hopefully they will fix it soon & I can enjoy the game properly.

    Just out of interest, would you mind posting your specs? mines an intel core2duo 8400, 4 gigs ocz ddr2 and an 8800gt, so i'm guessing i'll be alright.

    Played: WoW, Lotro, AoC, Eve, CoX.
    Shortly be playing: WAR and champions if the release date holds.

  • APRAuroreAPRAurore Member Posts: 330

    It might also be worthwhile to know what OS the OP is running.

    Back in EvE. Started with BatMUD. Main MMOs have been EvE and DAoC.

  • NasherUKNasherUK Member UncommonPosts: 480

    War isn't really any more detailed than WoW.  But it's performance was shocking when I last played (especially in keeps).

    It seems to constantly thrash the hard disk and not use memory properly.

  • adders666adders666 Member Posts: 259

    im running this in vista x86 on an OCed e2180 @ 2.8Ghz with 2Gb of corsair 4-4-4-12 with a 8800GT (512Mb) i play on all the highest settings and so far through tier 1 and 2 i have not had the slightest bit of hitching (had some lag but was having interwebz problems tiil yesterday) so i would say that it is your gfx card that is the problem with ur setup..... get something like 9800GT the prices on these have come down silly with the release of the new GTX's. also it might be worth your while cranking up your processor a few notches, but i dont know much about the OCing potential with your chip.

  • ElectriceyeElectriceye Member UncommonPosts: 1,171
    Originally posted by Lustmord


    I played the first month or so it was out.
    I have a 1.8 duel core, 2gig ram, and an ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT, 256mb....
     
    I run CoV at top settings, DDO good... WoW good... But I lagged in WAR. T1 and T2 were ok...
    But I lagged in castle seiges, major cities, and a little bit in Tor Amok or whatever it was called (w/ the lava).
     
    If I resubbed today, would I run better?
     

     

    Yea It would run much better. Performance was a big turn off for me as well but since then they have really improved the performance in keep sieges/scenarios.

    I was always using an addon for lag/stuttering etc until recently because It's no longer needed. I haven't heard about anyone's performance decreasing and I know alot of people who have it improved, and some even totally fixed.

    BTW if you weren't using buffthrottle (and infthrottle) the game would be literally unplayable during big wb fights. Now it's fine.

    In addition, they have also changed the way buffs refresh (similar to buffthrottle), and I think it's one of the main reasons that most people have found their performance improved, because most people didn't use this addon. The addon is no longer needed nowadays.

    Buffthrottle was really that important, it made a day/night difference.

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  • StarCykeStarCyke Member UncommonPosts: 43

    I'm using 9800gt as well. Great card. The new drivers that just came out from nvidia yesterday or 2 days ago seemed to help my hitching & stuttering a lot (the hitching & stuttering is probably because I'm running a P4, not because of card).  I even turned up to all effects & still running ok.

  • arctarusarctarus Member UncommonPosts: 2,581

    OP, i wouldn't recommend you to go back now. Go to warhammer alliance forum under user-to-user section and you will see the update about each patch, how its fairs for players like us who have problem.

    Right now its still being resolve and some players experiance worst performance after the latest patch. Im following the forum everyday, hopefully a miricle patch will be out soon! /fingers cross....

     

     

     

    RIP Orc Choppa

  • LondonMagusLondonMagus Member Posts: 700
    Originally posted by Hairwolf

    Originally posted by LondonMagus


    I bought a new rig before Xmas & get no lag at all apart from with certain spell effects in RvR & Scenarios.
    I play Destruction & whilst the rest of the time I can happily use 'Maximum Settings', the 'Dazzle Attack' used by the 'Knight of the Blazing Sun' send my machine into 'Bullet Time' even if I try lowering all the quality settings right down.
    The only way to stop it seems to be to disable enemy spell effects. I assume this is some sort of graphics bug though because other players have reported the same thing.
    Hopefully they will fix it soon & I can enjoy the game properly.

    Just out of interest, would you mind posting your specs? mines an intel core2duo 8400, 4 gigs ocz ddr2 and an 8800gt, so i'm guessing i'll be alright.

    Sure, my new rig is "Vista64 - Intel Core2 Quad Overclocked at 3.4Ghz, 8Gb Ram & ATI HD4870 x 2".

    My old rig had an 8800GTS 640MB card, but that was only 'XP Single core 3.4Ghz with 3gb Ram. It was OK on low settings but badly struggled in certain areas such as the 'Reikland Factory' during 'Heavy Metal'.

    The new rig has no performance issues anywhere even at high settings, apart from when those blasted KOTBS sparkly effects go off in scenarios & RvR when the game turns into a slideshow. I don't know if it is an incompatibility issue with my card but it certainly shouldn't be 'CPU Slowdown' or insufficient memory.

    When I first started seeing it I googled 'KOTBS Lag' & found several reports of other players with high spec rigs getting identical crappy performance issues with just that one thing.

    If you can't "Have your cake & eat it too", then how can "The proof of the pudding be in the eating"?

  • mr138mr138 Member Posts: 65

    I have about the same setup on my notebook, Vista, 1.8 dual core, 3g ram (not stock), and an 8200 (yeah I know ok). I turn off lighting and spell effects, even on my own character (seriously some of those morale abilities are just insane as far as spell effects go). One of Wars failings is that you have to go to your vid card control panel to adjust a lot of things that can really make a difference.  Go through there if you haven't and adjust some settings there. It actually runs pretty silky for me (nothing OC'ed either) now with WoWish level graphics settings. War is still newish and it will take some time before it is optimized.

  • trict22trict22 Member Posts: 8

    i'm still using a celeron D 3.0ghz. the motherboard will support a core 2 due...would i see a worth wild imrovement?

  • APRAuroreAPRAurore Member Posts: 330

    I played WAR on an old single core, Radeon X900 series, Windows XP machine. I found that screwing around with settings didn't help much, nor did downloading the most recent drivers. My problem areas were the following:

    -glitches with *certain* animations. I in particular remember having problems with the WL animations, a lot of them looked like variably coloured triangles and squares appearing underneath my WL's right arm while swinging a weapon. It would also cause fps lag. I also had some trouble with axe swings from an IB I tried briefly.

    -certain areas chugged really badly. The room where new dwarf characters start was extremely laggy. This was even when it was completely empty of other players. There is no water in this room, which I would assume would cause some chugging, but oddly in the high elf area, where there *is* water, I didn't chug as much in comparison.

    -scenarios haphazardly would chug. The oRvR ran smoothly in comparison to some of the scenarios. I actually couldn't play in Khaine's Embrace at all... it was a slideshow. I still found that it was variable whether I chugged or not in other scenarios and it was independant of player numbers or types of characters.

     

    It was an incredibly frustrating experience especially for a new game that has somewhat dated graphics.

    Back in EvE. Started with BatMUD. Main MMOs have been EvE and DAoC.

  • HairwolfHairwolf Member Posts: 43
    Originally posted by LondonMagus

    Originally posted by Hairwolf

    Originally posted by LondonMagus


    I bought a new rig before Xmas & get no lag at all apart from with certain spell effects in RvR & Scenarios.
    I play Destruction & whilst the rest of the time I can happily use 'Maximum Settings', the 'Dazzle Attack' used by the 'Knight of the Blazing Sun' send my machine into 'Bullet Time' even if I try lowering all the quality settings right down.
    The only way to stop it seems to be to disable enemy spell effects. I assume this is some sort of graphics bug though because other players have reported the same thing.
    Hopefully they will fix it soon & I can enjoy the game properly.

    Just out of interest, would you mind posting your specs? mines an intel core2duo 8400, 4 gigs ocz ddr2 and an 8800gt, so i'm guessing i'll be alright.

    Sure, my new rig is "Vista64 - Intel Core2 Quad Overclocked at 3.4Ghz, 8Gb Ram & ATI HD4870 x 2".

    My old rig had an 8800GTS 640MB card, but that was only 'XP Single core 3.4Ghz with 3gb Ram. It was OK on low settings but badly struggled in certain areas such as the 'Reikland Factory' during 'Heavy Metal'.

    The new rig has no performance issues anywhere even at high settings, apart from when those blasted KOTBS sparkly effects go off in scenarios & RvR when the game turns into a slideshow. I don't know if it is an incompatibility issue with my card but it certainly shouldn't be 'CPU Slowdown' or insufficient memory.

    When I first started seeing it I googled 'KOTBS Lag' & found several reports of other players with high spec rigs getting identical crappy performance issues with just that one thing.

    man, i don't know why you'd be having problems with that rig, the ram alone should ensure some sort of good performance never mind the processor and crossfire set up.

    Played: WoW, Lotro, AoC, Eve, CoX.
    Shortly be playing: WAR and champions if the release date holds.

  • metallekemetalleke Member Posts: 24

    Ive noticed the same thing, some spells (mostly aoe morale, as far as i noticed) seem to cut my fps in half. Can be pretty annoying. Some of them have been fixed, others havent.

    No other issues from my side. e8600 clocked at 4.8ghz, 4gig ram an 4870X2.

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