If I am not mistaken, if my clan or guild receives a set of invites and the guild leader gives me an invite, I am curious if I could post that I got an invite? I do not have one and I am not even sure if ym guild did apply but I do not understand (legally) how an NDA would cover someone from saying "My GM gave me an invite". Technically, I cannot be under the NDA because I have not downloaded or signed anything and there is no way that Aventurine would know that my guild leader would give me an invite.
Again I am just curious and wondering what others think. Personally, I have a high standard of ethics and have upheld every NDA I have ever signed and I wouldn't feel bad about saying I got an invite from my guild leader (if I did).
Any thoughts/ideas?
Don't quote me on this but I read somewhere that when you get the email 2 guys in black suits stand behind you taking photos of you clicking the 'I AGREE' button. Don't fuck with them.
----- The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species.
Went exactly as I expected. 'Thousands' of people invited to the beta/trial whatever they call it but NDA still up, no way to verify if its true, and no one you know will tell you they are part of it.
and yes, I prefer to see the glass as half empty, and no, I won't shut up.
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If I am not mistaken, if my clan or guild receives a set of invites and the guild leader gives me an invite, I am curious if I could post that I got an invite? I do not have one and I am not even sure if ym guild did apply but I do not understand (legally) how an NDA would cover someone from saying "My GM gave me an invite". Technically, I cannot be under the NDA because I have not downloaded or signed anything and there is no way that Aventurine would know that my guild leader would give me an invite.
Again I am just curious and wondering what others think. Personally, I have a high standard of ethics and have upheld every NDA I have ever signed and I wouldn't feel bad about saying I got an invite from my guild leader (if I did).
Any thoughts/ideas?
Technically speaking, you should legally be able to tell people you received an invite until you sign the NDA.
There is no way to prove this even happened. Sure it is more smoke from Adventurine.
Except for the people I know who got invites today?
Yeah, fail again troll.
Orly? Think your the first one to say that here. Proof and you'l silence alot of people, no proof and theres no point making such a claim.
Yeah, because I love breaking the NDA. Give it a day or two and we'll start seeing the leaks. You know where to find them I'm sure.
And I'll be the first to say that I am betting on Darkfall succeeding, not in the numbers of WoW because it IS going to be niche game that 80% of you on here won't be able to handle, but feel free to quote me right here and now if it:
A) never releases
or
is buggy and shitty as launch.
I'll put my neck on the line, where are all of you MMORPG morons going to be when you're proven wrong? I expect a swarm of apologies and "you told me so", otherwise grow a pair before dissing a game that's not even out yet.
Actually I heard someone got sued for releasing leaks
Two words: BULL. SHYT.
God, NO ONE gets sued for releasing fan information. wtf is wrong with you people.
People are so fcking !P!a!R!a!N!o!I!d! that they think the NSA is monitoring their keystrokes and bitstreams to see if they are "violating" some 3rd rate soon-to-be-failed mmog.
GROW. UP. Nobody gives a flying fck what you post in a fan forum.
Actually I heard someone got sued for releasing leaks
Two words: BULL. SHYT.
God, NO ONE gets sued for releasing fan information. wtf is wrong with you people.
People are so fcking !P!a!R!a!N!o!I!d! that they think the NSA is monitoring their keystrokes and bitstreams to see if they are "violating" some 3rd rate soon-to-be-failed mmog.
GROW. UP. Nobody gives a flying fck what you post in a fan forum.
Jeezus, people are such gullible idiots.
LMAO: if ya were a Girl i would Kiss ya LMAO thanks for the Lol...........................
Actually I heard someone got sued for releasing leaks
Two words: BULL. SHYT.
God, NO ONE gets sued for releasing fan information. wtf is wrong with you people.
People are so fcking !P!a!R!a!N!o!I!d! that they think the NSA is monitoring their keystrokes and bitstreams to see if they are "violating" some 3rd rate soon-to-be-failed mmog.
GROW. UP. Nobody gives a flying fck what you post in a fan forum.
Jeezus, people are such gullible idiots.
Yeah, tried explaining this in another thread, but apparently Aventurine has the ability to strike fear into the hearts of potential leakers where companies like MS, Apple, Blizzard etc have failed to do so...
Probably because they have greek ninjas who will seek you out and kill you with gyros and baklava...
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
i happen to just be peepin in on this thread when i noticed the thread turning into an assault on the NDA and whats legal~ whats not. Ive been in quite a few [over 25] myself both on pc and on console and tbh each NDA has its own specific aggreements per project ~ per company per stage of development. So unless someone could show us the NDA for This game which would of course in itself be illegal you cant really know. On another note in most scenarios most companies do not allow you to say your in the beta for obvious legal and protective reasons and some dont mind at all. If they allow the restriction[s] will always be that would be about the most you could say while flexin your Epeens for being one of the few the proud and the lucky to have the privaleage of being in the beta period.
As far as this game goes directly id say look for them to be more regionalized as far as who they are going to allow in to the beta, as it would be a lot easier for them to test w/out over stressing the server much. Yes ive read in other threads that theres "allegedly" ppl playing from all over right now but I personally aint buying that line. And no im not a fan boi or a troll ... or even a skeptic though im skeptical of somethings on this game, im just watching from the outside looking in.
TBH i love the Darkfall forums cos right now and over last few months this games forums are really good when ur sitting back wanting a good laughing read during a solid 420 ... i cant wait for game to finally launch cos its only going to get better.
"Everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die."
as much as i personally hate bashing on a game, but really... a DNS attack? this is suppose to be a company that designs military flight sims, that is rocking the best game ever, and they aren't setup to block a dns attack?
what... the... *bleep*.....
i wonder if their servers will be this vulnerable if the game launches.
Did anyone expect anything different? Aventurine throwing out claims that no one can verify, nobody hearing a single leak about the game even though there are supposedly "thousands" of players playing it now, downtoearth defending the game and throwing out random numbers to support his claims. This day has everything that Aventurine is and does.
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike Loved: Star Wars Galaxies Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
LOL denial of service attacks, sorry Aventurine I can smell the BS from all the way over here in canada.
I heard that on Feb 25th they plan on using the "Terrorists Bombed Aventurine HQ and destroyed the most current build of the game, setting them back 2 years..." excuse...
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
I like to tryto start out with as objective a view as I can in any thing I enjoy be it movies,books,music,gaming and as such I am looking at Darkfall as a whol and they are attempting to offer too many good things for me to overlook the project, but I have to say that the recent history of this project has certainly put a couple marks on them.
I've had a few games I got on launch day but have never felt compelled to be in every game from launch DF has certainly been placed in he wait and see category if even just for a week or two until I can hear what it's all about. I think gamers especially mmo players are an extremely patient bunch as our hobby has taught us to be in this fast paced world we live in more honesty about where a project is at and less when we are going to launch is not a bad thing.
Also the few whispers seem to point to a game that is heading more of the aoc route and less of the eqII which if it happens will not be a good thing.
I've still got some high hopes for this game since for me it could truly be a dream mmo but we can't forget the higher the climb the longer the fall can easily apply here as it has with so many projects to not meet expectations.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
Aventurine has announced that they have sent out the first round of invites to test Darkfall, as they promised would happen when they announced last week that the game would be delayed by one month. They also explained today's forum and website outages as "denial of service attacks."
This is an update about what is happening today: We have sent out the first wave of invites to clans and individual testers. We will send more waves of invites within a few hours. Invited players will be able to download the Darkfall installer. We are applying the latest patch, and players will be able to start patching soon, and entering the game. We are spacing out the invites in order to facilitate the download of the client and patching. We will continue sending out more invites every day until we reach our capacity. Since this first phase has to do with stress testing the servers, and doing final testing on features, we are not lifting the NDA until this testing is concluded. We apologize for the problems with the forums and the website today, we have been experiencing denial of service attacks, and we are working to resolve them.
i guess i missed it -- what happened to the journalist beta?
or, do we just pretend that the past never exists when it comes to darkfall, and we only pay attention to what is announced on this particular hour?
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
There is no way to prove this even happened. Sure it is more smoke from Adventurine.
Except for the people I know who got invites today?
Yeah, fail again troll.
Orly? Think your the first one to say that here. Proof and you'l silence alot of people, no proof and theres no point making such a claim.
Yeah, because I love breaking the NDA. Give it a day or two and we'll start seeing the leaks. You know where to find them I'm sure.
And I'll be the first to say that I am betting on Darkfall succeeding, not in the numbers of WoW because it IS going to be niche game that 80% of you on here won't be able to handle, but feel free to quote me right here and now if it:
A) never releases
or
is buggy and shitty as launch.
I'll put my neck on the line, where are all of you MMORPG morons going to be when you're proven wrong? I expect a swarm of apologies and "you told me so", otherwise grow a pair before dissing a game that's not even out yet.
honestly, reading up on all the supposed ffa pvp in this game and it's pretty carebearish compared to pvp in eve.
all this game is --- is a decade old attempt at remaking ultima online.
and um, do you own stock in the company? do you work for the company? are you receiving some sort of money from this company?
if not, and you're some type of "fan", then you should be promoting the virtues of the game, and pointing people to items that are prove-able, instead of just making up random garbage and pretending to be some sort of heroic defender of tasos.
if you don't know anything, don't act like you do. if you know something, link it up, or shhhh, cuz no one cares about made up fancies in regards to this game.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
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Don't quote me on this but I read somewhere that when you get the email 2 guys in black suits stand behind you taking photos of you clicking the 'I AGREE' button. Don't fuck with them.
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The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species.
Went exactly as I expected. 'Thousands' of people invited to the beta/trial whatever they call it but NDA still up, no way to verify if its true, and no one you know will tell you they are part of it.
and yes, I prefer to see the glass as half empty, and no, I won't shut up.
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Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Technically speaking, you should legally be able to tell people you received an invite until you sign the NDA.
Actually I heard someone got sued for releasing leaks
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The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species.
Except for the people I know who got invites today?
Yeah, fail again troll.
you know multiple people who got invites, yet no one else knows of a single person who does. mmk
Except for the people I know who got invites today?
Yeah, fail again troll.
Orly? Think your the first one to say that here. Proof and you'l silence alot of people, no proof and theres no point making such a claim.
Except for the people I know who got invites today?
Yeah, fail again troll.
Orly? Think your the first one to say that here. Proof and you'l silence alot of people, no proof and theres no point making such a claim.
Yeah, because I love breaking the NDA. Give it a day or two and we'll start seeing the leaks. You know where to find them I'm sure.
And I'll be the first to say that I am betting on Darkfall succeeding, not in the numbers of WoW because it IS going to be niche game that 80% of you on here won't be able to handle, but feel free to quote me right here and now if it:
A) never releases
or
I'll put my neck on the line, where are all of you MMORPG morons going to be when you're proven wrong? I expect a swarm of apologies and "you told me so", otherwise grow a pair before dissing a game that's not even out yet.
Two words: BULL. SHYT.
God, NO ONE gets sued for releasing fan information. wtf is wrong with you people.
People are so fcking !P!a!R!a!N!o!I!d! that they think the NSA is monitoring their keystrokes and bitstreams to see if they are "violating" some 3rd rate soon-to-be-failed mmog.
GROW. UP. Nobody gives a flying fck what you post in a fan forum.
Jeezus, people are such gullible idiots.
Two words: BULL. SHYT.
God, NO ONE gets sued for releasing fan information. wtf is wrong with you people.
People are so fcking !P!a!R!a!N!o!I!d! that they think the NSA is monitoring their keystrokes and bitstreams to see if they are "violating" some 3rd rate soon-to-be-failed mmog.
GROW. UP. Nobody gives a flying fck what you post in a fan forum.
Jeezus, people are such gullible idiots.
LMAO: if ya were a Girl i would Kiss ya LMAO thanks for the Lol...........................
Two words: BULL. SHYT.
God, NO ONE gets sued for releasing fan information. wtf is wrong with you people.
People are so fcking !P!a!R!a!N!o!I!d! that they think the NSA is monitoring their keystrokes and bitstreams to see if they are "violating" some 3rd rate soon-to-be-failed mmog.
GROW. UP. Nobody gives a flying fck what you post in a fan forum.
Jeezus, people are such gullible idiots.
Yeah, tried explaining this in another thread, but apparently Aventurine has the ability to strike fear into the hearts of potential leakers where companies like MS, Apple, Blizzard etc have failed to do so...
Probably because they have greek ninjas who will seek you out and kill you with gyros and baklava...
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
DorkFall = dead man walking.
All that's left is for the corpse to FINALLY fall over and start stinking up the place.
edit: beer induced rant deleted by author.
1st stress test i see with few testers. (lol)
I didn't get an invite.. I've never logged into the game... I know absolutely nothing about it.
Its epic fail!!!
Sorry I just wanted to join in.
On the other hand I've made somewhere around 10 million dollars making people think a game is ready to launch that they've spent no money on!!
*hint* If you can't detect sarcasm for a certain type of poster here.. please move along.
i happen to just be peepin in on this thread when i noticed the thread turning into an assault on the NDA and whats legal~ whats not. Ive been in quite a few [over 25] myself both on pc and on console and tbh each NDA has its own specific aggreements per project ~ per company per stage of development. So unless someone could show us the NDA for This game which would of course in itself be illegal you cant really know. On another note in most scenarios most companies do not allow you to say your in the beta for obvious legal and protective reasons and some dont mind at all. If they allow the restriction[s] will always be that would be about the most you could say while flexin your Epeens for being one of the few the proud and the lucky to have the privaleage of being in the beta period.
As far as this game goes directly id say look for them to be more regionalized as far as who they are going to allow in to the beta, as it would be a lot easier for them to test w/out over stressing the server much. Yes ive read in other threads that theres "allegedly" ppl playing from all over right now but I personally aint buying that line. And no im not a fan boi or a troll ... or even a skeptic though im skeptical of somethings on this game, im just watching from the outside looking in.
TBH i love the Darkfall forums cos right now and over last few months this games forums are really good when ur sitting back wanting a good laughing read during a solid 420 ... i cant wait for game to finally launch cos its only going to get better.
"Everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die."
And you get this info from where?
Look, dont get me wrong, I am also eagerly awaiting actual release of this game, but comments like this really destroy people's creditability!
as much as i personally hate bashing on a game, but really... a DNS attack? this is suppose to be a company that designs military flight sims, that is rocking the best game ever, and they aren't setup to block a dns attack?
what... the... *bleep*.....
i wonder if their servers will be this vulnerable if the game launches.
Did anyone expect anything different? Aventurine throwing out claims that no one can verify, nobody hearing a single leak about the game even though there are supposedly "thousands" of players playing it now, downtoearth defending the game and throwing out random numbers to support his claims. This day has everything that Aventurine is and does.
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
LOL denial of service attacks, sorry Aventurine I can smell the BS from all the way over here in canada.
I heard that on Feb 25th they plan on using the "Terrorists Bombed Aventurine HQ and destroyed the most current build of the game, setting them back 2 years..." excuse...
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
I like to tryto start out with as objective a view as I can in any thing I enjoy be it movies,books,music,gaming and as such I am looking at Darkfall as a whol and they are attempting to offer too many good things for me to overlook the project, but I have to say that the recent history of this project has certainly put a couple marks on them.
I've had a few games I got on launch day but have never felt compelled to be in every game from launch DF has certainly been placed in he wait and see category if even just for a week or two until I can hear what it's all about. I think gamers especially mmo players are an extremely patient bunch as our hobby has taught us to be in this fast paced world we live in more honesty about where a project is at and less when we are going to launch is not a bad thing.
Also the few whispers seem to point to a game that is heading more of the aoc route and less of the eqII which if it happens will not be a good thing.
I've still got some high hopes for this game since for me it could truly be a dream mmo but we can't forget the higher the climb the longer the fall can easily apply here as it has with so many projects to not meet expectations.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
Read more here.
i guess i missed it -- what happened to the journalist beta?
or, do we just pretend that the past never exists when it comes to darkfall, and we only pay attention to what is announced on this particular hour?
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Except for the people I know who got invites today?
Yeah, fail again troll.
Orly? Think your the first one to say that here. Proof and you'l silence alot of people, no proof and theres no point making such a claim.
Yeah, because I love breaking the NDA. Give it a day or two and we'll start seeing the leaks. You know where to find them I'm sure.
And I'll be the first to say that I am betting on Darkfall succeeding, not in the numbers of WoW because it IS going to be niche game that 80% of you on here won't be able to handle, but feel free to quote me right here and now if it:
A) never releases
or
I'll put my neck on the line, where are all of you MMORPG morons going to be when you're proven wrong? I expect a swarm of apologies and "you told me so", otherwise grow a pair before dissing a game that's not even out yet.
honestly, reading up on all the supposed ffa pvp in this game and it's pretty carebearish compared to pvp in eve.
all this game is --- is a decade old attempt at remaking ultima online.
and um, do you own stock in the company? do you work for the company? are you receiving some sort of money from this company?
if not, and you're some type of "fan", then you should be promoting the virtues of the game, and pointing people to items that are prove-able, instead of just making up random garbage and pretending to be some sort of heroic defender of tasos.
if you don't know anything, don't act like you do. if you know something, link it up, or shhhh, cuz no one cares about made up fancies in regards to this game.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?