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Not until I try it
rdrpappy
Member Posts: 325
in Everquest II
I won't be buying EQII untill they give me a chance to try it first.
Thats just the way I feel about subscription based mmorpg's, the days of making blind purchases on any game you have to pay to play are over for me.
Everyone else in the industry is doing it, previews, open beta, stress test whatever you want to call it, everone else is doing it and I can't help but like it.
I have seen the screens and movies of EQII, read many posts and come to the conclusion that it's loved by some and hated by others, until I see it first hand I have to pass and choose the games I liked from the ones I have tried.
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I think that's reasonable. It's too bad more companies dont offer a 3 or 7 day trial just to see if the game is appealing. Unfortunatly for me, I don't have the same kind of restraint that you do. I probably would have bought EQ2 even if I hadnt gotten to play beta. I would have gotten lucky in this case, but man I got burned on Lineage2. I think I broke a land speed record from instal to uninstal with that game.
I think what finally decided it for me was the reply I got from a GM to a petition I had.
I only wish I'd thought to screenshot it, as I swear it was just about a word for word copy of the replies I got in SWG. Right down to the 'the Devs are aware of the problem, please /bug it, blah blah" comment.
I can only hope that the CS does a better job once the game goes live.
Not sure if that's fair. I imagine there are ALOT of people sending in bug reports right about now. Of those most of them are probably duplicates (people reporting the same bug). You cant expect a personalized response to every duplicate petition. It would just be too time consuming. It would be much easier to sned out a form response and actually work on the problem.
As far as CS goes, I would expect more of the same as it is the same company that runs Galaxies and they are going to have the same CS policies. However, you cant realy comment on that right now as none of us in beta are customers at this point. SOE has no obligation to provide a fun experience to beta testers. We are there to find and report bugs, not get a preview of gameplay.
True, they aren't obligated to do anything for us. But for me, as a potential future paying customer, when I get the same unhelpful responce as I did in SWG, I can't help but figure that there won't be much if any change after release.
Even more telling is that I had just about the exact same situation(a bugged NPC was preventing me from finishing a quest) in another game I'm testing, and in one instance I got my problem solved, in the other I got well, nothing really.
I do find it funny that after all the people that tried to seperate SWG from EQ2 in numerous threads in the past, I end up getting a CS reply lifted straight from SWG, in EQ2. The whole CS system is pretty much cut and pasted from SWG. First you have to search the mostly unhelpfull knowledge base, then you can submit a CS ticket, then a day or so later you get an autoresponce telling you that the devs know about it, but /bug it anyway, but they can't help you with it. Thanks for playing.
Rhoklaw,
Most single player games offer a demo. You can find them in game magazines at your local grocery store. if you dont want to buy the magazine there are alot of websites that let you download demos for free.
fileshack.com is my favorite.
I try almost every game I ever get before I buy it.
$5 says we'll see you in game
Actually I usually don't buy any single player game I can't try first. Most of them have easily downloadable demos now.
And looking at recent MMORPGs we have WoW with it's open beta and Guild Wars with its free trial weekend. It makes me wonder what EQ2 is hiding. And don't babble about bandwith costs, it didn't slow down WoW or Guild Wars.
Just wait for the game to get player reviews and then make your decision then.
If you want to try an MMO out though, head over to the World of Warcraft Forums...the madness just started
(yes the OB client is downloadable now).
Oh jeez. Here we go again. What secret are they trying to keep from us. They MUST being trying to get one over on us because they don't have the exact same business practices as other companies that I am personally biased toward. Hysteria hysteria hysteria! Drama Drama Drama!
As for the original poster, hey, I understand where you're coming from. Heck, I'd prolly be with you if I hadn't gotten into Beta months back. I know I'll enjoy it. None of the issues that you see folks complaining about on this forum and others is something that hasn't occured or have something similiar to it occur in the other MMORPGs out there. SWG has a 14/15 day download trial now, so I'm sure EQ2 will have one as well. May take a year like SWGs, but hey, least you can try before you buy then.
Or.....you could go to a friend/co-worker/relative's house if you have one that plans on playing. I'm sure there has to be someone in the network of people you know that will be playing.
Cheers
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As stated by others most single player games offer a demo or several demos prior to release and yes I do test them, thats how I make an informed decision before I make a purchase.
And the flaw in your argument is this, when I pay for MoHAA for example, I can fire it up and play it anytime I want, even after you finish most single player games you still have a game you can in many cases play online free or in some cases just replay it again.
If you don't like the mmorpg you bought, you just got your 30 days and it's a paper weight.
It's a consumer value issue, if you are in the mindset that it's ok to just buy a game and try it based on best guess, that's your thing, I feel differently.
I would rather embrace the new standard of demo, preview, open beta or stress test, I really become concerned when a large company won't let you see it, after all that's the best advertising there is for them......unless the game is being released with issues that may reflect poorly on the sales.
With so many titles i can't and won't buy them all, I like to play but not that much so I like the idea of checking out the games that I may want to buy.
Why is a test drive a bad thing, single player, multi player, whatever player, why would you want to discourage previews on any game or try and justify a blind purchase on any game.
Check out File Planet, almost all modern game companies offer a chance to check out their products, and I like that idea.
Actually I usually don't buy any single player game I can't try first. Most of them have easily downloadable demos now.
And looking at recent MMORPGs we have WoW with it's open beta and Guild Wars with its free trial weekend. It makes me wonder what EQ2 is hiding. And don't babble about bandwith costs, it didn't slow down WoW or Guild Wars.
Oh jeez. Here we go again. What secret are they trying to keep from us. They MUST being trying to get one over on us because they don't have the exact same business practices as other companies that I am personally biased toward. Hysteria hysteria hysteria! Drama Drama Drama!
As for the original poster, hey, I understand where you're coming from. Heck, I'd prolly be with you if I hadn't gotten into Beta months back. I know I'll enjoy it. None of the issues that you see folks complaining about on this forum and others is something that hasn't occured or have something similiar to it occur in the other MMORPGs out there. SWG has a 14/15 day download trial now, so I'm sure EQ2 will have one as well. May take a year like SWGs, but hey, least you can try before you buy then.
Or.....you could go to a friend/co-worker/relative's house if you have one that plans on playing. I'm sure there has to be someone in the network of people you know that will be playing.
Cheers
Fanboy Alert! EQ2 and well SOE in question have never had an open beta for their major MMO releases, while not having one back in the days of Everquest (1) can be justified, not having one for EQ2 or SWG just can't. The reason Sony doesn't do this is simple too, Sony Online is a money grabbing company far so more then any of the other companies running Major MMOs now or upcoming in the future. SOE delayed fixing combat balance in SWG to release an expansion, money before game. Mythic, the makers of Dark Age of Camelot have release two quality expansions totally FREE, no hidden costs nothing. Everquest hasn't given any player a dang free thing in their life, (extra bank slots that'll cost you money cause you gotta buy another crappy expansion). In the newer markets with many many competeing MMOs not having a free period of time for a vast majority to try the game and see how they like it is PR suicide. SOE has realized that people will probably be disappointed by Everquest 2, (Everquest 1 was huge, perhaps because it was good, but probably more so because of the fact that it had very little competition for years allowing it to build a solid player base). I'm not going to say which upcoming MMO is better because that'll just start the flaming and I personally think that both of them are going to be decent, but what's changed my mind and I'm sure many others, especially those who didn't get into beta is the fact that they have to shell out 50 plus bucks to "try" the game before they can make an informed decision on whether they like it or not.
Oh well I guess SOE has to keep it's reputation as having the worst customer service out there.
I'm still in line for an appeal I sent in SWG, a year ago
"Sony Customer Service is like Santa Clause, people say they've seen them but they don't really exist"
"Sony Customer Service is like Santa Clause, people say they've seen them but they don't really exist"
Oh yea linkeq2002 can you quit trolling already? Stay on your side. Thanks!
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I miss DAoC
Coldmeat takes events that actually happen, and enlarges them to bigger than life proportions, get used to it
i have
oh and not too many games have free-trail (that are mmorpg) without you having to buy the game first, most of the ones that have it, are one that are 1,2, 3, 4 years old, not -1 week old
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I mean seriously Coldmeat what do you expect them to say? Do you want them to suck up to you and be all like "Yes sir! We appreciate your help! You are our #1 beta tester! We will fix it immediately!!!" All that is required of you is /bug. Nothing else. Then when the devs see that this problem is happening to 20+ people it will be prioritized on the next bug to fix list.
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SOE opened it up for SWG in the final week.
You are all fine deffenders of why they don't owe us and they have nothing to gain or are far to exhalted to bother with a very common feature of marketing.
I'd love to stay and plead my case further but after playing Guild Wars for the second preview event I am off to try the open stress test for World of warcraft.
SOE opened it up for SWG in the final week.
WRONG ! Was there and SWG never had any sort of open beta, some more false info brought to by the fans of WoW
By the way good luck on your WoW paid for open beta, seems as if Blizz and File Planet cannot seem to get their act together. I guess their idea of a stress test is to stress the poor fools who bought a 16 dollar sub to FP and now cannot get their beta keys LOL. Did they at least give you a kiss for the 16 dollars?
I miss DAoC
SOE opened it up for SWG in the final week.
WRONG ! Was there and SWG never had any sort of open beta, some more false info brought to by the fans of WoW
By the way good luck on your WoW paid for open beta, seems as if Blizz and File Planet cannot seem to get their act together. I guess their idea of a stress test is to stress the poor fools who bought a 16 dollar sub to FP and now cannot get their beta keys LOL. Did they at least give you a kiss for the 16 dollars?
Never paid any money to anyone, hmm must just be the EQ kiddies imagining things.
SOE opened it up for SWG in the final week.
WRONG ! Was there and SWG never had any sort of open beta, some more false info brought to by the fans of WoW
By the way good luck on your WoW paid for open beta, seems as if Blizz and File Planet cannot seem to get their act together. I guess their idea of a stress test is to stress the poor fools who bought a 16 dollar sub to FP and now cannot get their beta keys LOL. Did they at least give you a kiss for the 16 dollars?
Never paid any money to anyone, hmm must just be the EQ kiddies imagining things.
Who said anything about paying money for SWG. The quote had to do with SWG having an open beta which it did not. The NDA was lifted the Thursday before launch. Reading comprehension is your friend. Maybe I should think about writing in words of 3 sylables or less, so even WoW kiddies can understand.
Now you can go back to hitting refresh to see if Blizzard and Fileplanet have cashed your check and gave you a key yet.
I miss DAoC
SOE opened it up for SWG in the final week.
WRONG ! Was there and SWG never had any sort of open beta, some more false info brought to by the fans of WoW
By the way good luck on your WoW paid for open beta, seems as if Blizz and File Planet cannot seem to get their act together. I guess their idea of a stress test is to stress the poor fools who bought a 16 dollar sub to FP and now cannot get their beta keys LOL. Did they at least give you a kiss for the 16 dollars?
Never paid any money to anyone, hmm must just be the EQ kiddies imagining things.
Who said anything about paying money for SWG. The quote had to do with SWG having an open beta which it did not. The NDA was lifted the Thursday before launch. Reading comprehension is your friend. Maybe I should think about writing in words of 3 sylables or less, so even WoW kiddies can understand.
Now you can go back to hitting refresh to see if Blizzard and Fileplanet have cashed your check and gave you a key yet.
Read your own post son, I never paid FP any money , I'm already in the test and strongly suggest you get your jammies on and start dreaming about the EQ fairies that dance in your head.
And once again for the slow ones, I support free trials and if you are against this idea, thats your opinion.
WoW, EQII, GW it's all the same until I see it first hand, let the lemmings make blind purchases, I wan't a test drive.