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  • jy88902jy88902 Member Posts: 293
    Originally posted by UnderdogSMO

    Originally posted by jy88902

    Originally posted by Abrahmm

    Originally posted by altairzq


    Yay a game where you wear crap and can loot crap from players? This is an instant win!

     

    Why does gear have to be the defining aspect of your character? Shouldn't your character's skill and your skill be more important?



     

    That's what most of the "hardcore pvper's" think, until they realize that just about anyone with a functioning brain possess about at the same skill level as they do and they really aren't that special at all.

     you dont play many FPS game's do you???  as you probably already know in most FPS every charicter is EXACTLY THE SAME, and yet some how some players seem to be much better than othere players

     



     

    Are we talking about other fps games here?

    Try to keep up with the conversation if you want to chime in.

  • UnderdogSMOUnderdogSMO Member Posts: 41
    Originally posted by altairzq

    Originally posted by Abrahmm

    Originally posted by altairzq


    Yay a game where you wear crap and can loot crap from players? This is an instant win!

     

    Why does gear have to be the defining aspect of your character? Shouldn't your character's skill and your skill be more important?

     

    Skill more important.. yes absolutely. But that doesn't mean gear should be meaningless, it has to have it's importance.

    What I find funny is wanting full loot AND meaningless loot. Can't see the point in it.

    Loot = gold

     

    the more gold you have the better loot you can get ((or make))

    if your good you can have a constant amount of gold coming into your bank all the time. than you can get the better gear more regulerly

    some gear will be much less expandable than otheres

  • UnderdogSMOUnderdogSMO Member Posts: 41
    Originally posted by jy88902

    Originally posted by UnderdogSMO

    Originally posted by jy88902

    Originally posted by Abrahmm

    Originally posted by altairzq


    Yay a game where you wear crap and can loot crap from players? This is an instant win!

     

    Why does gear have to be the defining aspect of your character? Shouldn't your character's skill and your skill be more important?



     

    That's what most of the "hardcore pvper's" think, until they realize that just about anyone with a functioning brain possess about at the same skill level as they do and they really aren't that special at all.

     you dont play many FPS game's do you???  as you probably already know in most FPS every charicter is EXACTLY THE SAME, and yet some how some players seem to be much better than othere players

     



     

    Are we talking about other fps games here?

    Try to keep up with the conversation if you want to chime in.

    ok how about fighting game's of any kind or hell any game were the avitars are all balensed for pvp

     

    THERE ARE ALWAYS people that are better than otheres and die varry little, making you ask "OMG W!TF why is he so awsome at this game"

  • AbrahmmAbrahmm Member Posts: 2,448
    Originally posted by jy88902

    Originally posted by UnderdogSMO

    Originally posted by jy88902

    Originally posted by Abrahmm

    Originally posted by altairzq


    Yay a game where you wear crap and can loot crap from players? This is an instant win!

     

    Why does gear have to be the defining aspect of your character? Shouldn't your character's skill and your skill be more important?



     

    That's what most of the "hardcore pvper's" think, until they realize that just about anyone with a functioning brain possess about at the same skill level as they do and they really aren't that special at all.

     you dont play many FPS game's do you???  as you probably already know in most FPS every charicter is EXACTLY THE SAME, and yet some how some players seem to be much better than othere players

     



     

    Are we talking about other fps games here?

    Try to keep up with the conversation if you want to chime in.

     

    Darkfall has FPS combat you twit.

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    Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.

  • Thoric485Thoric485 Member UncommonPosts: 525

    Because a harsher world helps build a stronger community. And what else is there to an MMO, really?

    "The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
    To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
    On we sweep with threshing oar, our only goal will be the western shore."
  • AbrahmmAbrahmm Member Posts: 2,448
    Originally posted by altairzq

    Originally posted by Abrahmm

    Originally posted by altairzq


    Yay a game where you wear crap and can loot crap from players? This is an instant win!

     

    Why does gear have to be the defining aspect of your character? Shouldn't your character's skill and your skill be more important?

     

    Skill more important.. yes absolutely. But that doesn't mean gear should be meaningless, it has to have it's importance.

    What I find funny is wanting full loot AND meaningless loot. Can't see the point in it.

     

    I agree. But you have to find a balance between value of gear and the ability to lose it. If gear is incredibly valuable and hard to get, no one is going to wear it out to PvP. If gear is worthless, than no one will bother to loot it. I don't think it really has much to do with how much gear affects your character, but more about the balance between how hard it is to obtain and how easy it is to lose.

    Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
    Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
    Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
    Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
    Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.

  • altairzqaltairzq Member Posts: 3,811
    Originally posted by UnderdogSMO

    Originally posted by altairzq

    Originally posted by Abrahmm

    Originally posted by altairzq


    Yay a game where you wear crap and can loot crap from players? This is an instant win!

     

    Why does gear have to be the defining aspect of your character? Shouldn't your character's skill and your skill be more important?

     

    Skill more important.. yes absolutely. But that doesn't mean gear should be meaningless, it has to have it's importance.

    What I find funny is wanting full loot AND meaningless loot. Can't see the point in it.

    Loot = gold

     

    the more gold you have the better loot you can get ((or make))

    if your good you can have a constant amount of gold coming into your bank all the time. than you can get the better gear more regulerly

    some gear will be much less expandable than otheres

     

    Ok, but according to the general consensus in the forums, people won't use the good gear, they will keep it in the bank, and only equip them in guild battles, I assume when the odds are in their favor. So the looting of good gear will be very rare, mostly will be Full Crap Loot.

     

    edit: what Abrahm said above.

  • GrayGhost79GrayGhost79 Member UncommonPosts: 4,775
    Originally posted by AshenHand


    My brother and I will probably multi box 9-10 accounts like we do in WoW (final numbers depending on group size), and more than likely we'll be running casters since they aren't gear dependent.
     
    How do focus fired, naked gank squads equate into your list there? If someone manages to kill one of our toons they won't get anything since they will all be naked, unless they happen to get the one carrying your loot on our way back to the bank.

     

    Well the naked mage gank squad gives reagents that are needed to cast spells as will they have a wand thats to be looted. So.................... how does having to constantly buy reagents while getting one shotted by archers cause your armorless fit into your plans?

     

    Oh wait lol.......... there are the low level spells like the some in the lesser magic school that require no reagents lol. So you can always spam heal.......... or magic missle lol....................

  • UnderdogSMOUnderdogSMO Member Posts: 41
    Originally posted by altairzq

    Originally posted by UnderdogSMO

    Originally posted by altairzq

    Originally posted by Abrahmm

    Originally posted by altairzq


    Yay a game where you wear crap and can loot crap from players? This is an instant win!

     

    Why does gear have to be the defining aspect of your character? Shouldn't your character's skill and your skill be more important?

     

    Skill more important.. yes absolutely. But that doesn't mean gear should be meaningless, it has to have it's importance.

    What I find funny is wanting full loot AND meaningless loot. Can't see the point in it.

    Loot = gold

     

    the more gold you have the better loot you can get ((or make))

    if your good you can have a constant amount of gold coming into your bank all the time. than you can get the better gear more regulerly

    some gear will be much less expandable than otheres

     

    Ok, but according to the general consensus in the forums, people won't use the good gear, they will keep it in the bank, and only equip them in guild battles, I assume when the odds are in their favor. So the looting of good gear will be very rare, mostly will be Full Crap Loot.

     

    edit: what Abrahm said above.



     

    but for some people some gear may be much simpler to get. if your a vatorin player you will probably have a much higher income than a newbie. able to buy better armor and also have the skills to hold on to it for a bit

     

    also if your in a clan and your clan is doing well thay can help one another to get and keep better gear

    EDIT: and good gear being rare... hum... how is that bad??? good gear should be rare

    and grate gear that should be exstramly rare.

    "and than when every one is super... No one will be!"

  • tazarconantazarconan Member Posts: 1,013
    Originally posted by AshenHand


    My brother and I will probably multi box 9-10 accounts like we do in WoW (final numbers depending on group size), and more than likely we'll be running casters since they aren't gear dependent.
     
    How do focus fired, naked gank squads equate into your list there? If someone manages to kill one of our toons they won't get anything since they will all be naked, unless they happen to get the one carrying your loot on our way back to the bank.

     

    You probably dont even know how combat system works in DFdo you?.. You can forget wow since its manual combat system ..That means if you launch 10 arrows or swiing or spells on me and i dodge i ll avoid all of your 10 spells/arrows/swings ..not to mention that when i figure u did multibox ill run around your chars so u will shoot eachother god bless friendly fire... At least you ll contribute on my raising axe/sword skills to raise :]

    P.S. Multi boxing is one of the things that makes wow looks so ridiculus. Thank gods DF wont suffer from multiboxing

  • GnomadGnomad Member Posts: 377
    Originally posted by tazarconan

    Originally posted by AshenHand


    My brother and I will probably multi box 9-10 accounts like we do in WoW (final numbers depending on group size), and more than likely we'll be running casters since they aren't gear dependent.
     
    How do focus fired, naked gank squads equate into your list there? If someone manages to kill one of our toons they won't get anything since they will all be naked, unless they happen to get the one carrying your loot on our way back to the bank.

     

    You probably dont even know how combat system works in DFdo you?.. You can forget wow since its manual combat system ..That means if you launch 10 arrows or swiing or spells on me and i dodge i ll avoid all of your 10 spells/arrows/swings ..not to mention that when i figure u did multibox ill run around your chars so u will shoot eachother god bless friendly fire... At least you ll contribute on my raising axe/sword skills to raise :]

    P.S. Multi boxing is one of the things that makes wow looks so ridiculus. Thank gods DF wont suffer from multiboxing



     

    LOL if that were only true....

    I love how all the fawnbois "know" how everything works when none of them have ever played and no actual details have been put out other then what was written years ago on a description of what the game will "offer"

     

  • UnderdogSMOUnderdogSMO Member Posts: 41
    Originally posted by Gnomad

    Originally posted by tazarconan

    Originally posted by AshenHand


    My brother and I will probably multi box 9-10 accounts like we do in WoW (final numbers depending on group size), and more than likely we'll be running casters since they aren't gear dependent.
     
    How do focus fired, naked gank squads equate into your list there? If someone manages to kill one of our toons they won't get anything since they will all be naked, unless they happen to get the one carrying your loot on our way back to the bank.

     

    You probably dont even know how combat system works in DFdo you?.. You can forget wow since its manual combat system ..That means if you launch 10 arrows or swiing or spells on me and i dodge i ll avoid all of your 10 spells/arrows/swings ..not to mention that when i figure u did multibox ill run around your chars so u will shoot eachother god bless friendly fire... At least you ll contribute on my raising axe/sword skills to raise :]

    P.S. Multi boxing is one of the things that makes wow looks so ridiculus. Thank gods DF wont suffer from multiboxing



     

    LOL if that were only true....

    I love how all the fawnbois "know" how everything works when none of them have ever played and no actual details have been put out other then what was written years ago on a description of what the game will "offer"

     

    you do know theres now a shit ton of leaks out there now... Right?

     

  • TheHowellerTheHoweller Member Posts: 407
    Originally posted by altairzq

    Originally posted by Abrahmm

    Originally posted by altairzq


    Yay a game where you wear crap and can loot crap from players? This is an instant win!

     

    Why does gear have to be the defining aspect of your character? Shouldn't your character's skill and your skill be more important?

     

    Skill more important.. yes absolutely. But that doesn't mean gear should be meaningless, it has to have it's importance.

    What I find funny is wanting full loot AND meaningless loot. Can't see the point in it.

    I see the meaning of your previous post now...

    Thanks for clarifying, I actually agree with you now

     

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    Originally posted by UnderdogSMO

    you do know theres now a shit ton of leaks out there now... Right?

     

    Speaking of this...I'm getting VERY hyped up about this game.  If I could play it, and I liked it the slightest, I would fork out the 60.  So far, in the area of appearances, Darkfall has surpassed my previous expectations.

    Yes, I am worried about it being a big failure in terms of a launch, but I really think no matter what, this game will be playable, and fun, 4 months after its release; regardless.  Although I could be wrong...Meh

     

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    It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off.
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    Originally posted by atziluth...
    Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.

  • DalynDalyn Member CommonPosts: 19
    Originally posted by AshenHand


    My brother and I will probably multi box 9-10 accounts like we do in WoW (final numbers depending on group size), and more than likely we'll be running casters since they aren't gear dependent.
     
    How do focus fired, naked gank squads equate into your list there? If someone manages to kill one of our toons they won't get anything since they will all be naked, unless they happen to get the one carrying your loot on our way back to the bank.

    First you supposedly can't cast without a staff, and second the quality/stats of the staff will probably affect your dps.

    Also Ive read you will need reagents to cast spells.

    And from everything we have read on the game friendly fire will be implemented, which would probably make multi-boxing tough. Gonna be tough with FPS combat anyway. Doubt your going to be able to have a healer that has macros with /cast heal @ target

    Guess will see though.

  • RaggnarokhRaggnarokh Member UncommonPosts: 14
    Originally posted by AshenHand


    My brother and I will probably multi box 9-10 accounts like we do in WoW (final numbers depending on group size), and more than likely we'll be running casters since they aren't gear dependent.
     
    How do focus fired, naked gank squads equate into your list there? If someone manages to kill one of our toons they won't get anything since they will all be naked, unless they happen to get the one carrying your loot on our way back to the bank.

     

    You really do that?

    100€ or 150€ / month????

  • patrikd23patrikd23 Member UncommonPosts: 1,155

    People will prolly do suicides if they die in game and lose gear or kill over stuff for real.

  • Zayne3145Zayne3145 Member Posts: 1,448
    Originally posted by Raggnarokh

    Originally posted by AshenHand


    My brother and I will probably multi box 9-10 accounts like we do in WoW (final numbers depending on group size), and more than likely we'll be running casters since they aren't gear dependent.
     
    How do focus fired, naked gank squads equate into your list there? If someone manages to kill one of our toons they won't get anything since they will all be naked, unless they happen to get the one carrying your loot on our way back to the bank.

     

    You really do that?

    100€ or 150€ / month????

     

    Never try to understand Multiboxers.

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  • TheHowellerTheHoweller Member Posts: 407
    Originally posted by Zayne3145

    Originally posted by Raggnarokh

    Originally posted by AshenHand


    My brother and I will probably multi box 9-10 accounts like we do in WoW (final numbers depending on group size), and more than likely we'll be running casters since they aren't gear dependent.
     
    How do focus fired, naked gank squads equate into your list there? If someone manages to kill one of our toons they won't get anything since they will all be naked, unless they happen to get the one carrying your loot on our way back to the bank.

     

    You really do that?

    100€ or 150€ / month????

     

    Never try to understand Multiboxers.

     

    It's somewhat like going to work, just to pay for your game accounts, so that you can sit in front of a computer for hours.  Really, this guy's pretty much admitting to doing something very pathetic.  He deserves our pity.

    Ashen...There's a world outside of gaming, go find it.

     

    I also find it funny how blatantly confident and snobby he is about it.  If this kid's the epiteme of a WoW player, I'm trully beginning to understand why I hated that game so much now.

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    It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off.
    -------------------------------
    Originally posted by atziluth...
    Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.

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