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DaoC is so damn good. But what will happen to it in 2 weeks???
Johnark
Member Posts: 901
I've downloaded the 7 day trial of Dark Age of Camelot. It's no wonder in every DaoC forum I read, or any comments made about this game, or any review about it, it always has good comments.
The gameplay is just amazing. Tomorow my 7 day trial expires... do I keep going?
The only thing that I'm a bit disapointed about are the graphics. They are out of date.
BUT... I just saw screenshots of the upcoming expansion Catacombs. OMG... better character customization and the characters and monsters look better.
So DAOC is improving... but I read a lot threads that so many people are switching their current MMORPG for Worlds of Warcraft and/or Everquest 2.
What will happen to the DAOC community? Will it still keep going? Is everyone quitting?
To all you veteran players, what are your friends or the community saying?
Is the release of WoW and EQ2 affecting the community of DaoC? Or is DaoC just so good most veteran players couldn't care less?
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Stealth - Ambush - Hemorrhage - Sinister Strike x2 - Cold Blood - Eviscerate - Vanish - Preparation - Cold Blood - Ambush - ... you're dead! :P
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I don't think either EQII or WoW will have a lasting impact on DAOC - or on any other game with a hard-core fan base. Just as there are bunches of people who get bored with a game after a year or so, there are bunches more who don't like and even resist change.
I intend to try EQII, but I don't think it will lure me away from DAOC. I was never too enthused about WoW - maybe because I never played the stand-alone games.
In any case, I don't intend to try either of them on DAY 1. I'll give it a month to let the dust settle and read some reviews before I slap my money on the table.
w00t! At least 1 person replied, and it wasn't a surprise that it was a positive response towards DaoC.
Yeah know what, it's decided... screw EQ2 and WoW for now... tomorow I'm buying the Dark Age of Camelot pack with both expansions (If I'm not mistaken, it's called the Platinum edition?)
EQ2 and WoW can wait... i've learned my lesson by buying MMORPGs at launch. Since the game is new, everyone is experimenting with the game at the same time as you. As much as this can be fun in one way, I had much more fun playing a MMORPG that was already developped. Maybe because it makes the game a tiny bit easier.
Instead of always having to buy items from the NPCs since no players own anything good at the beginning, once the game has taken shape, you can find things for cheap or even better.
One thing though, I'm restarting my DaoC character on another server. I let the game chose a server for me since it said that (forgot name) server needed people, and to my surprise the server I'm on always has less than 250 players online at once. Compared to 2-3 other servers that has over 1000 users online. I think i'll join the 1000+ server. hehe
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Well lasting or not .. I bet it kills the game.
I go even further.. I bet it scaring them so much they are constantly asking people to rejoin for free and play. LOL .. the games over .. people move on!!!
Its crap game no matter what these idiots who are die hards say. Its the same shit over and over. Look at the 1.72 patch my god how stupid is that .. Buffed up the rangers and hunters thats smart .. geez lets see if we can keep the low populations around lol .. they never ever get it .. they keep buffing the low populations but now the problem is alb has become the low population. I wonder when they get the underdog bounce. .
Like i said before .. Ill be there the day they turn off servers laughing in there face for being so friggin stupid !!!
WOW is just that WOW!!!
Dorks age of Crybabies is done!!
If you stick around you do the same shit over and over and i assume you are easly amused.
Otherwise shelf it and get with the times.
I think people are scared of change but you know !!! Shit happens and in DAOC it never did .. it just got worse and worse!!!
End of Line!!
Helllo, My name is Indego Montoya, You killed my father prepare to die.
(Repeat)
Helllo, My name is Indego Montoya, You killed my father prepare to die.
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I played the game at release for a couple months. The game was pretty buggy and to be honest... boring. a few years later i try the 7 day trial and after playing for 30 seconds.... I log off and cancel my trial. nuff said.
Are you talking about DAOC. Daoc had one of the smoothest launches of any mmo out there. I tried SWG, Horizons, and Shadowbane. Now those three had horrible releases and bugs at release, but daoc to me was smooth.
As far as leaving to goto another mmo. I for one am not. Also I play with a group of about 10 people all the time. We have moved from several mmos together. All my friends agree that they are happy where they are atm. We are looking forward to Catacombs and will be purchasing it.
As far as EQ2 and WOW killing daoc, I strongly disagree. Look at games like UO still out there. My god that game is very dated and old and it still has a strong fan base.
Every MMORPG usually suffers [temporary] player migration when 'the next big MMORPG' TM comes out - The reasons for trying the new game are varied and I imagine I dont need to spell most of them out to you.
Some players will settle in the new game and, to be fair, the other games are probably better off without these players since they obviously werent dedicated enough anyway, some will return having discovered that the new game just 'isnt for them' and some will return due to the inevitable bugs and problems that seem to plague every games (not just MMORPGs) release that make them realise 'better the devil you know' (or their return might be temporary until the new game has sorted its act out)
Any MMORPG that goes under due to the release of a new MMORPG was probably on the ropes anyway and the new game was just the final nail in the coffin - I cant see an outwardly healthy game suddenly going under overnight due to the release of a new game.
A substantial amount of the players in DAOC came from EQ. There is nothing in EQ II that will make me and those other players go back. We simply do not like the format, and many of us really hate SOE (espically after SWG).
I have not looked into WoW that much. The last time I saw it it looked like a EQ rip off. I may or may not be right, but that doesn't matter. DAOC did not kill off EQ, Shadowbane and SWG did not kill off DAOC, so how in the world could EQ II or WoW? EQ II will do more harm to EQ than it will to DAOC if it has any impact at all.
Once you have a subsantail subscriber base 250,000 for DAOC and growing, then no one game can kill it off or really have a permanent lasting effect on it. EQ II and WoW might have a positive impact on DAOC. EQ never made any game play improvments until people started going to DAOC. All of the improvments over EQ that DAOC made such as improving their graphics with every expnasion, chat filters, group finders, etc EQ added.
Sure some people from DAOC will go try those games. Some will end up playing both. Some will play WoW for a few months and come back, some might never come back. But the portion of the population will be small and DAOC will get new players to make up for them.
So simply do not worry about it. Go get the platnium edition. Then get the expnasion for the graphics upgrade and you will be set.
Remember people the trial of daoc is exactly that, a trial, with ToA it gets better, it doesn't turn uberific, but its good enough for you to never really say UGH this makes me sick.
And let me say that i quit daoc about 2 months after i got my first 50. I may play it some day, but its by no means a bad game. I just felt my time with it was done.
DAoC is a good solid game, sure there are nerfs and it can be unfair at times(alot of times actually hehehe) but its not a bad game, not at all =D.
The game won't die, that one guy who so avidly thinks its going to die just makes me laugh. I swear i literally laughed when i read his post.
Especially since the mere mention of WoW or EQ2 killing ANY game is by fare well laughable. People will go to it and half the people who leave will come back to any of their old games. You know why? Because WoW and EQ2 are all hype. WoW brings nothing new to the market, its the same thign rehashed all over again, the only reason why its name is even being mentioned nowadays is because people are in love with blizzard or warcraft. after the initial fanboy/hype buzz calms down(1-3 months after release). people will start moving back to their old mmorpgs, and things will balance out again.
EQ2, well i just don't think thats gonna do that well, IMO its like 90% graphics and 10% real features.
Hype is just that HYPE, people were saying the same thing when coh l2 ffxi shadowbane, horizons, swg....the list goes on. No game will ever truly kill another or even closely live up the hype.
I think that Daoc will definately remain strong, especially with the release of catacombs. I am going to try eq2, but will more than likely stick with daoc.
Well, after trying out the game for only 4 days, I went to the store, bought the Platinum Edition!!!
Indeed this game is soooo much nicer with the Expansions. At first I thought it was just me, but when you take a closer look at the trees, they are so much nicer than the Trial without any expansions.
Not to mention after activating the Water Reflection in the Options menu and the Atlantis Skin, omg... it's like playing a brand new MMORPG.
Okay so only the characters need to be fixed now, but on December 5 2004, CATACOMBS!!!!! I saw the screenshots of the new character models... I soooo can't wait!!!
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I personally think that DAoC is a terrific game. Mythic greatly impressed me with the way they address gameplay issues. They're a much friendlier company than SoE. I played Everquest for over 2 years and then moved to DAoC.
I think it will definitely survive WoW and EQ2. I don't think that EQ2 is going to be the success that many think it will be, after having played in the beta.
I myself do plan on playing World of Warcraft but I also have every intention of checking out Catacombs in Dec.
Well, DaoC seems to have a really great reputation. Before truly deciding if I should buy the game and play it regularly, I read as much reviews, opinions and forums as I could.
I still dunno why people hate the Trials of Atlantis expansion that much, I'm still too new, but other than that, this game is supose to be bugless. And lag doesn't seem like much of an issue either.
... such relief. For someone that just came out of the horrors of Star Wars Galaxies, playing DaoC is actually fun and relaxing, compared to the past few months of SWG which has been frustrating and stressful.
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*** BOYCOTT BEGGARS ***
Don't tip newbies when they ask for money! They are veteran players trying to get easy money for their newly created characters. Please support the BOYCOTT BEGGARS ASSOCIATION by donating some money or free rare loots. Thank you for your support.
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Stealth - Ambush - Hemorrhage - Sinister Strike x2 - Cold Blood - Eviscerate - Vanish - Preparation - Cold Blood - Ambush - ... you're dead! :P
Remember people the trial of daoc is exactly that, a trial, with ToA it gets better! OMG dude its trials not trial of altantis .. Trials of atlantis .. Go grab a dictionary and look up the word .. it not refed as a trial .. LOL ..
Especially since the mere mention of WoW or EQ2 killing ANY game is by fare well laughable.
Dude your laughable. Lookup the first PVP game .. do some research .. that was a MMORPG .. when you figure out it died to EQ I .. because of the shit they pulled to there users like mythic is doing. It comes full circle.
Lastly .. I sent in my appeal .. this is the exact to the word appeal. " Who's Dick do i have to suck at mythic to get some balance in this game?
Responce from mythic CSR .. Your put on warning .
My responce " Ok answer my question ! Who fkn god damn dick do i have to suck to get some balance put in this game ?
CSR .. did not even respond ..
OMG i am laughing .. they are so hard pressed to have ppl playing they cannot even follow protocol. You still think they are not hurting and not shitting there pants ..
I sent the CSR a tell . the final tell.
MY radar is working great .. and i think mythic should add it to the game sence everyone uses it anyways.
.. LOL still no responce ..
Face it all .. The game got cheats they cannot fix . its catacombs is only a PVE addon .. LAME .. and its RVR is so damn buggie it sucks.
lol ..
Helllo, My name is Indego Montoya, You killed my father prepare to die.
(Repeat)
Helllo, My name is Indego Montoya, You killed my father prepare to die.
(Repeat)
^^^^^^^^^^
Man all I have to say is that you got issues.
Btw, unlike another game that I used to play. Mythic has banned several accounts for using radar. I have yet to find a MMO that hasnt had a cheat in it or two. Money dupping in swg was just mad.
Again I ask you. What do you consider a good MMO?
I swear every friggin MMORPG that has come out last 2 years has been sworn to destroy DAoC, yet DAoC is still here today.
After playing DaoC and chatting with my guildmates, I see why DaoC is still here after all this time. You can do all the quests in 1 realm or create 3 characters in each realm to experience all the quests that give useful loot (not crap the devs thought would be useful but end up being nothing more than "decorations for your house" loot like in Star Wars Galaxies). And once you did all the quests and grinding, you can RvR, which gives you realm XP to give new abilities to your character, which I found really amazing about this game. Most MMORPGs I've played either have PVP which is only there for fun and nothing else, others don't even want PVP at all (coughEQ2cough) and if they add it you'll be in arenas only dedicated to PVP which once again does not give any bonuses or rewards cause you're good in PVP.
And well, Tsen says Catacombs will suck cause it's PVE... how ironic that I want to play DaoC even more now that I know it's a PVE expansion! I mean the PVP/RvR in DaoC seems great that I have to experience for myself so I won't say anymore since I dunno for myself, but according to the guild I joined, they love the RvR more than any other MMORPG, so I'll take their word for it. But if there isn't enough dungeons to explore already in DaoC, adding more dungeons could only make this game better.
Unless those dungeons have uber loot, thus making those who manage to get them too uber and too strong (which is one complaint a group of people were saying about Trials of Atlantis), Catacombs will definatly be something to keep me interested in this game.
Oh not to mention Catacombs will remodel all characters in the game. Just the past expansions made all the landscapes sooooooo much nicer compared to when I was on the 7 day trial, now all the ugly out of date characters will look as nice, maybe not better, than Everquest 2's characters. At least they will be more up to date.
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Scissors & Wood Glue - 19.99$
Lineage II Platinum Edition DVD - 59.99$
Having more fun building the 3D Elf Paper doll that came free with the game rather than playing Lineage II - Priceless.
For everything else, there's Mastercard.
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Stealth - Ambush - Hemorrhage - Sinister Strike x2 - Cold Blood - Eviscerate - Vanish - Preparation - Cold Blood - Ambush - ... you're dead! :P
I have played the 7 day trial for about 1 hour and 30 minutes then logged out and cancelled.
Why?
The graphics, the animation and the user interface.
For the graphics are outdated, but not a keyellement. But still I like to play games on the pc for the eye. Otherwise I will stick to pen and paper games. But if you say the expansions give better quality. Why don't they ship the 7 days trial with the expansions? Who is interested in a trial from an original game that has 4 expansions? Not me.
The animation are also not very nice if you ask me, the character moves in blocks and the spells don't realy have nice animations to them. Perhaps they just go up the same way as the graphics and evolve to better in the expansions.
And the realy point that frustrated me the most was the user interface. It took me more then 40 minutes to find out how to attack/loot. Running around wasn't to difficult just used the directional keys on my keyboard and I moved. At that state I don't play a game when the learning curve to get known to the user interface just takes to long and isn't usefull.
So let me know if there is a trial WITH expansions because if the game is realy that good and the problems above are solved by the expansions. I can give it one more try.
"If all magic fails, rely on three feet of steel and a strong arm"
no mmorpg out there gives free trial with all expansions.
with daoc, every expansion has upgraded the engine. free trial has engine with only dx7 support but with latest expansion daoc has moved to full dx8 support...catacombs (upcoming expansion) will add dx9 support.
Yes I too liked DAoC a while back. But the way RvR is working it is just laughable balance issues between classes. With all the ToA addons to characters the healing couldnt keep up with the spell damage. If I wanted a FPS I'd be playing a new game every month not paying for the same old crap every month. And the bots oh well Anyways just a couple cents worth of opinions hehehe.
Gees Tsen I wonder what made you so itchy about a game you definately seem to have played for a while. If it was that bad why didn't you cancel it immediately? Just look at all the nonsense you are writing. Do you really think that there is a perfect game out there with no problems or glitches at all? Get a life dude. If the game was half that bad as you claim it to be it would have never gotten so many subscribers; you don't have to be Einstein to figure that one out.........
For you EQ fanboys that actually think EQ2 is gonna destroy DAoC.. All I gotta say is ummm "Lemme have some of that stuff you are smoking, cuz it's gotta be good damn stuff!"
Look, DAoC is here to stay for a good while. Mythic is dedicated to this game, as seen in constant improvements all the time. Every six months or so, they expand and redefine their game even more. And I am not talking about lame expansions just adding a new character class or something, but they drastically improve it in several ways every time. And a lot of these expansions like Foundations which gave players the ability to have homes and recently New Frontiers which totally changed the Realm wars arena have been huge updates for FREE!
Here's my prediction... DAoC will outlast EQ2 - Unless EQ2 totally changes their game to include customizable avatars in the way of skill points. Who wants to play just another pretty game where you have no control over your avatars advancent except for finding magical armor and weapons? This means you'll be exactly the same as 42,000 other players with their super stream-lined any idiot can play and not mess up way of advancement. Remember from Asherons Call 2, Lineage 2 and so many others... Pretty graphics doesn't make a game. If I put a lot of hours into a game, I want some control on how my character advances and I don't wanna be exactly the same as all the other players dang it! I never played the pen and paper D&D but can you imagine a stream-lined D&D where you only picked your characters class and how you looked but never could roll for stats or update your skills/stats?? HA! That's what EQ2 seems to wanna do from all that I have read. And stream-lining the game so any drunken idiot could play was the SAME MISTAKE that Asheron's Call 2 made 3 years ago. The graphics were amazing back then... but go back and see what percentage of the AC1 players liked AC2.. It wasn't a high percentage, trust me. Thus why AC1 still has many more players today then AC2.
Besides, DAoC continues to get prettier and more breath-taking all the time. I know that I will probably get flamed like a hot dog over an open campfire here with all the Sony EQ Fanboys, but I still predict that DAoC one year from now will have MORE PLAYERS then EQ2. Time will tell.
- Zaxx
I am aware of the number of buffbots and it is annoying for sure. The nerving can be a real pain as well for the players but check the vn boards and class forums. Everyone whines and whines....
They all want to be the best killers and prefer to kill other players by the dozen without making even an effort. Till recently Hib players got 30 levels free on Pryd but I wasnt't aware that Mid players had that as well; must have been a while ago. Maybe you are playing on US servers but on EU servers I cannot say that albs really are in control. on Pryd it's Midgard that pull the strings at the moment and on Excal it are Mid/Hib who run the show. Maybe after Frontiers things will change; we will hjave to wait and see. My point is that people will always whine and some forget that a game is about having fun and not being the best. The result is that they get frustrated and come spamming on forums......