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Ummmm.... a huge world to explore and eventually build houses on IS a feature. Remember UO? It was pretty barren, but for the same reason as Darkfall. If you want your 20 foot shoulder armor, glowing everything, and Barrens chat - you know where to go back to.
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"I have no idea what''s going on." - Tasos Flambouras
darkfall don't need mobs, it'll have players instead.
Much more fun than attacking some 10 rats somewhere to get my item of +1... ZZZzzz
darkfall is a game of conquest and pvp, id be happy if it where just players only TBH, if i wanted PVE i'd go play WoW or somthing.
don't like it, then JOG ON brother.
That not an mmo you speak of, That's called a FPS. But hay what ever floats your boat.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
AC2 said the same thing and yet the world just felt lonely.
Ummmm.... a huge world to explore and eventually build houses on IS a feature. Remember UO? It was pretty barren, but for the same reason as Darkfall. If you want your 20 foot shoulder armor, glowing everything, and Barrens chat - you know where to go back to.
But unlike UO, housing and such can only be built on pre determined areas, more like Vangaurd than Ultima Online....
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
I've watched, read, listened and frankly I don't see what the big deal is about this game. Graphics are so so from what I've seen nothing revolutionary about gameplay other than some things that might or might not be there.
Only thing I have seen is quite a lot of arguing and if this is a pure PVP game like they say it is then the 10 year olds will do nothing but sign up right away, power lvl and run around aimlessly killing players for fun.
I hate to tell you but having an open pvp game wont work.
1) People are unstable and they will just kill other players for no reason (especially kids)
2) There is no real penalty system so random ganking is going to happen constantly.
If you like this kind of thing have fun but I dont see the point where when i'm lvl 5 or skill 5 some lvl/skill 50 can come along and whack me just for fun.
Congrats you just described a game thats still being tested via closed beta. The leaked videos show a game thats impimenting content via patches, checking to make sure they work well, and then patch again. The testers test. To be quite frank, you cant judge the game when its not even released yet.
I do not believe the game will be released this month. If you havent learned something about Adventurine is that their release dates really are just guesses that can be changed at a moments notice. Who cares, for all you know an open beta will be considered its release.
Essentially what you are doing in your post is talking out of your ass. Its based on no logic nor rational thinking, its baseless guess work. Judge the game in the state its released in, but drop the "its going to fail cause its incomplete while in beta" bs.
Well, there must still be a reason for people to venture out in all areas, otherwise you will get a big empty world and some smaller areas where everyone is. That would make the game feel totaly empty for most parts, not good for a MMO.
I'm still laughing at some posts the ones I bothered to read LOL.
1st of let me tell you I had some experience with mmo servers the gray ones at least.
NPC spawns are easy thing to add turn on/off if the devs make it so usually they do since they do not want to make their job harder.
Beta test are usually done on less powerful servers (why spend money on a server that can support 5k players if you have 1k beta testers) I'm sure once they decide its time they will do a stress test on a server that will actually run the live game with all the futures on.
Now how about you all just wait it out and see that they serve at dinner?
All this information is readily available on darkfalls website, public forums, and fansites. Read up will ya. Dont judge it until you get your hands on it or until its released.
The OP is completely correct. But Tasos could sell his disciples anything as features. Even crappy animations and ancient graphics.
I dont think anyone really cares one hoot about Tasos. The OP is incorrect, since he forgets the game is still in closed beta. The graphics clearly are NOT ancient by todays standards, especially for a non instanced sand box game. These rely more on lower poly count models and design in order for the non instancing you find in other titles.
EVE has a similar start btw.
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How do you know this ? Are you in the beta ? Do you know for a fact every feature is turned on and the game isnt still in debug mode ? You see what people want to show you in a video that is leaked. Just remember that your shown what they want to show you and maybe take it for what it is that could be a DF hater wants you to see so he can make people believe the shit he says or you could be seeing what some DF fan boy wants you to see or read. The fact is unless you have played the game you cant judge it at all.
...whoosh...
/facepalm
Zaxx's post was a sarcastic commentary on the behavior of some of the more rabid fans, and quoting something Tasos said a couple months back. He's not "judging the game" at all in that post.
... unless that was sarcasm on your part.. In which case, ...whoosh... for me, 'cause I totally missed it :-p.
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What do people mean by a emty world??
Just because the spawn are dynamic and wildlife runs when some stupid players comes running , doesnt mean its emty! Many mobs dont come out in daytime, And night in Darkfall are supposed to be creepy.
And from what i have heard, you cant travel for many minutes (3) before running into some mobs. And that make the world NOT emty. Then add all players traveling.
I just heard there is no 3rd person view in the game , that seems very lol 1999 stuff, how can any new game now not have a choice of camera views. i don't mean if i have a two handed sword i get to see my back i mean any time i choose.. is this is true then i will have to change my thoughts about this game
1 crafting is almost worthless < fanbois say this about armor and weapon making>
2 if i build a ship all the hard work can be ganked away
3 now freedom of camera
4 the character look like and move like some 1999 game
and that is just a few things.. not sure about the freedom to do what i like seems limited to me.
Wrong, empty worlds is just a terrain, with no props, trees, buildings, etc. Darkfall has (or should have) good zones, with a lot of trees, etc. Which is one of their features btw, they put a lot of thoughts in their zones, on how the PvP would work there.
In fact, there are some big games which just have empty zones, with a lot of npc's in it. Which is just the opposite, and those zones (and usually the games too) fail in the eyes of most people.
You know it, the best way to realize your dreams is waking up and start moving, never lose hope and always keep up.
limited yes because HELLO! if everyone could have one then whats the point of fighting over them? which is like the point of the game.
There are? In what version? certainly not in the beta version the testers are playing.
You are missing the OP's point entirely. Beta testers are not even TESTING spawn points, mob AI or anything like that.... those things are way below testing stuff like ' player-buildable cities' and ships and guild functions... all of which ALSO have not been tested.
The things that are being tested now are the most basic elements of a 'game'. WIth two weeks to go, they haven't even begun testing things that are really simple. There is going to be NO testing of advanced features.
In a typical beta test, when it gets this close to release, the testing is usually taken internal for final tweaks, optimzations, etc... before launch.
But hey, we all know by now that AV are the quintessential non-conformists, so that answers that.
I like the way that the typical mantra now when it comes to criticism is, " YOU haven't played it, so YOU have no right to say anything at all. They (AV) don't owe you anything, so STFU and go back to WoW..."
Lol, no thanks. I'll be doing what I said I'll do from the beginning. When/if Darkfall launches in N.A., I'll pick it up and give it a go.
DarkFall FAQ - Read then Question with Boldness
O rly? You say this like it is common knowledge or something.
Last time I checked Darkfall.com, I didn't see squat as far as updates. In fact, the last News update was Jan 15 concerning the delay.
DarkFall FAQ - Read then Question with Boldness
Incorrect. Really, you should stop talking like you know facts. The races are put into 3 different alliances, you can find this on the main website. You do not get penalized for killing a player whose race is one of your natural enemies. You DO take a penalty if you attack your own race and those part of your alliance.
Humans+Dwarves+Elves VS Mahirim+Orks VS Dark Elves. It goes from easy to hard. Pick human, dwarf or elf, and you will have more allies and less natural enemies. Mahirim and Orks are the middle ground, and Dark Elves have everyone as their enemy. Killing Your natural enemy = + alignment, Kill your allies or own race and you get penalized. Again, stop talking like you know whats going on, you clearly do not. In fact you seem to have some sort of agenda driving your posts. I have to question why waste your time here unless for pushing your agenda, which might or might not bring you egotistical pleasure?
WTF is wrong with this thread?
The OP just throws out some random personal opinions, wich have nothing to do with Darkfall. I rather speek to people in beta that know for a fact. If this thread is just for fun, then i think its ok.
And what about noone likes PvP and stuff?? Look at EVE or any FPS game out there. Thats just another personal opinion wich have nothing to do with Darkfall.
ZOMG 95% of testers got in two weeks ago and people still aren't testing the endgame!!!!!
You guys are unbelievable.
Whats unbelievable is that 95% of the testers got in 2 weeks ago and the game releases in 18 days...
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
There are? In what version? certainly not in the beta version the testers are playing.
You are missing the OP's point entirely. Beta testers are not even TESTING spawn points, mob AI or anything like that.... those things are way below testing stuff like ' player-buildable cities' and ships and guild functions... all of which ALSO have not been tested.
The things that are being tested now are the most basic elements of a 'game'. WIth two weeks to go, they haven't even begun testing things that are really simple. There is going to be NO testing of advanced features.
Here are the clues and they are only clues.
Why so few people playing 2 weeks before release? Legit question. And they are stressing nothing from what I can see.
Those that are playing are not playing in a fully populated world. Maybe they are and there are not many mobs besides other players to kill. That would make the core jerk population happy from what I can see.
I just can't see why it is unpopulated but maybe that is the devs unconventional way of doing things
/worry
Graphics that are sometimes ok and sometimes bad. We will see on that.
So as a great one said before if you can't take care of the small things no one should expect you to take care of the big things9ie. in this case sieges and large groups of mobs and everything else.