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What Turbine and SOE do not get.
kingfet
Member Posts: 92
So yesterday I decided to try out EQ2, and DDO. So I download DDO and it is a 1.7GB file, followed by 80megs for EQ2. I install and load up EQ, and behold I have a ten hour patch process ahead of me, nice! I kind of figured that because of the small download so I install DDO, and OMG, 11500 files to download or patch, and a seven hour process, after the almost two gig download. Well I have uninstalled both, and will go back to my EvE. Which is a 500meg download, with no patch process. HOW DARE A COMPANY ACTUALLY HAVE THEIR TRIAL BE AN UP TO DATE CLIENT!!! Or let alone give us a streamlined one like WOW has.
Turbine, and Sony just lost out on a potential customer because they dont keep their trials up to date, and exect me to have 10 plus hours downloading clients and patches.
Also as a note, I have highspeed fiber dsl through att&t uverse. Its more than enough for me.
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Don't both of these trials give you access to the full game though? I'm pretty sure that these, unlike Vangaurad, are the whole thing as opposed to a small zone.
Hmm eve online is
Premium Graphics Content
The same game software as Classic, plus the Premium Graphics Content for all ships, stations and stargates.
Filesize: 1340.4 MB
SHA-1: 6bd38203d16df0dce702938cb8448900055ce763
not sure about the 500mb you say unless you are using the old client , then your comp must be old and never mind these high graphic games.
My computer is actually pretty nice, its not omgwtfprwned. Its a Phenom 9550 AMD Quadcore, 8GB DDR2, 8800gt, vista 64. I actually can run premium flawlessly at 80ish fps, but I do a lot of fleet ops and blob warfare. Most of us who do those two things still run the classic client, because you get several hundred ships on your screen and its going to bring your computer to its knees unless you are running something decent in sli or crossfire. I also multibox a lot hence the quad core and lesser graphics client.
As a note I bought aoc the other day for five bucks at target, and ran the game fine, I really didnt have any issues, on the lower end of high settings. The game just wasnt my style.
If you install the trials with the Sony Launcher, it'll install the most updated version with all the patches.
Always install from the launcher.
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Just put the download on and go do something else or start it before sleep. Not being able to play a trial instantly isn't the end of the world. If you choose to play beyond the trial you already have most of the client set up and avoid a long download then.
I dunno this seems alright to me, just leave the PC on over night.
Seriously?
Just go to sleep, man. If you've never tried either of those games, it is worth the "time"
Or just play EVE, and patch at the same time, your line can handle that easy.
Lazy sack of
Ah the wrath of someone who dose not want to wait. lol I downloaded EQ2 AND LOTRO at the same time and was done with the full installation andp laying within 3 hours. You have to remember THEY ARE HUGE GAMES EQ2 is a 13GB game and LOTRO is about 9-11GB (With expantion) But they are GIVING you the full game not just the tutorial zone. So just leave it on over night if you dont want to wait then GO BUY THE GAME! and IF you dont want to do that then just stop complaining and find a 2D game you can download in 5 mins..since that seems about howlong you want to wait
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Well Turbine do get it since for LotrO you can begin to play the (US only) trial with only the Noob instances and then download the rest of the game in the bakground
If WoW = The Beatles
and WAR = Led Zeppelin
Then LotrO = Pink Floyd
How can you compare those downloads to EVE? I mean the environment iN EVE is mostly just, well ermm empty SPPPPAAAAAACCCCCEEEEE!!!
I agree, Turbine, Blizzard, and SOE are significantly behind the times when it comes to clients. Blizzard isn't so bad because you can get the complete patch from fileplanet in a couple minutes, but both Turbine and SOE take hours to even play the game with initial patching. Most mmo companies take the logical approach with a rescent client build to download so they can ditch the hours of patches.
I think the OP has a point. Although I could wait overnight to download a trial why should I (as a consumer)? There are many games here that have free trials or demos. Maybe a game is really good but will be passed on only because it's download time is considered unreasonable by the potential customer. For the customer has already found something else to play.
OP,
Back in 2003, it took me a WEEK to download Ragnarok Online for my daughter.
Ya
A week
On dial-up AOL.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
If a game is 5 GB to get everything necessary, then how do you propose to get all of that data to your hard drive apart from buying DVDs?
It's a vicious circle really, you have the games with the fancy graphics and huge zones with oodles of stuff to do in them and subscribers wanting more and more content packed into the game on a regular basis and so come patch day your going to find huge files coming at you from every direction.
I never use the wow downloader anymore because the bloody thing takes even longer than patches I've had from SoE and ofc if you want to get it faster you have to find another site hosting WoW's patches, not Funcom though as theirs always seem to be bloody huge anyway, last time I checked my AoC file was 47 gigs and I quit last year, dread to think how much patching I'd have to do now.
Simpler MMO's with simpler graphics and designs will naturally have smaller patches.
So your complaint is rather that having to download a bigger trail you had to download a smaller trial and then the updates. What’s the difference, it’s going to take just as long?
Yes how DARE Turbine give you the complete game with 8 major modules and several smaller ones included in the trial!!!! The audacity! I'm grabbing my pitchfork and going out into the streets!
Well, that is the bad things with many trials but you can try EQ2 with trial of the isles if you want one single short download.
Myself, I let Opera or firefox running in the background when I go to work or sleeps, only way to get down a large file anyways with my 8mb/s line.
I don't see how this is a gamebreaker, if you really cant wait that long, go to a gamestore and buy a full version. You could use some patience, just leave the computer patching in the background like the rest of us.
Here is a torrent for the DDO client, but it probably takes to long time to get home for you that way too... It is patched with update 8.
That's true. A trial client should be an upto date client. It's always a pitty when you install a client for a trial and then you find you still need to update your trial client. I can understand some last minute pacht,but not hours of download.
Hey genius... if you bought the retail box of either game, guess what you would have to do after installing it?
That's right... you have to patch!
It doesn't make sense for a company to modify their installer over and over again with every patch. The assumption is that people only install the game once (usually), and then patch over time. This is pretty standard, regardless of trial vs. retail.
Patience is a virtue; unfortunately, you can't buy it in an item mall.
This is the way of almost all the games on the net. As an example the new game "Runes of Magic" made you redownload 4gb when then went from closed beta to open. I decided to wait for release before downloading again. At least with a patch process you don't have to download the entire game again.
But I can't argue that CCP has a much better process. Of course they only deal with ships as avatars, not characters. My guess is, this will change alot when they add in them in some time this summer.
The turbine download for the LOTRO trial is a partial download/stream, the rest of their games are as well, IF you use the download manager. The OP is simply uninformed.
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if u so impateint to play the game go play someo the crappy f2p boring games there is that u cant do but so much unless u spend 30$ on cash shop each month.
with teh exception of some things both give u full access to the game.lotro think only limit was no mail,trading or broker and think there was no limit whatsoever on the eq2 one so what is ther to complain about.
u get to see the game in full glory with few limits i think its worth the wait. and if u cant find something else to do in that time or cantt support downloading and playing u shouldnt bother playing then.
Its spelled "YOU".
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
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