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Suggestion... Seriously
I know the game is due out on the 25th. I really hope that everything is as peachy as Tasos proclaims that it is. Saying that, if we have another launch delay, I have a serious recommendation for Aventurine.
Stop floundering around and hire professionals to launch the game. I don't care if it is SoE, NCSoft, EA, Ubisoft, or even EIDOS for that matter, we have gotten to the point of no return now. Like it or not, just because you know how to code a game, that doesn't mean you know how to run an mmorpg business. Even EVE brought in help back in their day after they tried to launch and screwed everything up.
Right now, Aventurine has to ask themselves, does DFO want to be a successful niche game or does it want to go the way or Shadowbane or worse.
We are seeing evidence of a great looking sandbox (avatars and animations excluded) and I think it would be a shame to lose DFO because they can't figure out what they need to lauch right. Let the guys at Platform Publishing, or NCSoft, or whom ever handle your launch and so Aventurine can do what it does and code their game. Those big companies have deep pockets and I hope someone at Aventurine wakes up and decides to take advantage of those pockets.
Anyway, I know I'll get flamed for the suggestion, but it is how I feel where Aventurine needs to go next. Just my opinion.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
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"Horse eating... a fire hydrant... the hell?" - Dan
Didn't you know? Darkfall isn't having problems securing a publisher, Publishers are having problems securing Darkfall.
not an actual quote... but it was said by the big man himself.
...Audio Visual...
Sorry, had to say it. It' slike "Candyman"... the thread will get deleted if the term is used.
- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
**double post.
- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
I have no idea what the publisher is doing. We havent heard from them since Aventurine did say they had a publisher. So i agree with Shannia.
But that was also the problem Aventurine faced when choosing a publisher. They couldent get a major one. Its a small business and they had to get what was offered.
Fly Labs Software is also a very small development house. They eventually went with SoE's Platform Publishing. One thing that can be said, PP stood by their word and have had a completely hands off approach with regards to Pirates of the Burning Sea. Sony only does what FLS asks them to do. As such, I have confidence that if SoEPP signed on with Aventurine, we'd have DFO launched around the globe with a swiftness. But seriously, I don't care who they sign with, if they can't launch in a couple weeks, they need to sign with someone to save their project.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Because the "real publishers/developers" have known what they were doing the last couple of years....right.....
Anyways for a new company, Aventurine are working their asses off, trust me on this one.
IMO the game needs to be delayed though. Absolutely amazing experience, but needs a smooth launch. These guys have a lot of skill, but very new to dealing with the public and releasing.
The real gamers will wait however long it takes to finally get a decent MMO, the lamers will cry and moan while they have no idea what is actually going on.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
for the record:
We should trust you here, but nowhere else?
- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
Didn't you know? Darkfall isn't having problems securing a publisher, Publishers are having problems securing Darkfall.
not an actual quote... but it was said by the big man himself.
...Audio Visual...
Sorry, had to say it. It' slike "Candyman"... the thread will get deleted if the term is used.
You have to say AV 3 times to get deleted, Oh damn i said it now that is twice. Someone HELP ME!!!!!!
Smarter than the average bear? That is assuming bears are smart.
Boy are you in for a surprise.
Smarter than the average bear? That is assuming bears are smart.
Trust you? Who the hell are you? You have about as much credibility as any "troll" or "hater" who can google the leaked patch notes. The fact is you don't know any more about what the devs are doing than the rest of us.
"Real gamers"? Are you kidding me with that pathetic elitist wannabe gibberish? I hope you realize that Darkfall fans with attitude similar to yours are the main reason why there's a unusually huge salivating crowd typing up their "I told you so" posts getting ready for the trainwreck in two weeks.
Slick move with claiming the game needs to be delayed though. At least you're smart enough to cover your own ass when the inevitable delay happens. Personally I think it's too late already, as your stickied post had already been sticking out like a thore thumb for the last couple months.
Trust you? Who the hell are you? You have about as much credibility as any "troll" or "hater" who can google the leaked patch notes. The fact is you don't know any more about what the devs are doing than the rest of us.
I actually know a lot more than you...you can't stop on your raging for a second to think about why?
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Boy are you in for a surprise.
Not really sure what could surprise me
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Just curious why you know more about darkfall then most prople on here?
Smarter than the average bear? That is assuming bears are smart.
Feel free to pm me if this is a serious question. Otherwise im going to just consider it baiting.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Trust you? Who the hell are you? You have about as much credibility as any "troll" or "hater" who can google the leaked patch notes. The fact is you don't know any more about what the devs are doing than the rest of us.
I actually know a lot more than you...you can't stop on your raging for a second to think about why?
DUDE! i work for the CIA...don't you see my offcial looking avatar image! I could tell you all why you should believe evey word I have to say but then, I'd have to have you all killed...er, I mean beanned!
When i say they are working there asses off, i mean they spend 20 whole minutes last year animating the character run cycle...I mean, seriously.....Don't make me go spy-tech on you, just listen and obey!
Frank 'Spankybus' Mignone
www.spankybus.com
-3d Artist & Compositor
-Writer
-Professional Amature
nvm not worth it
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Let's see one of several reasons why you "know more"
1) You work for Aventurine so therefore that makes you less then objective
2) You are in beta so you are breaking NDA
3) You are a legend in your own mind
4) You are just a sycophantic fawnboi troll with no real information and are full of it.
Let's see one of several reasons why you "know more"
1) You work for Aventurine so therefore that makes you less then objective
2) You are in beta so you are breaking NDA
3) You are a legend in your own mind
4) You are just a sycophantic fawnboi troll with no real information and are full of it.
Wow these forums never seem to let me down lol...
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Wow these forums never seem to let me down lol...
and i know this games epic failure won't let me down.
Feel free to pm me if this is a serious question. Otherwise im going to just consider it baiting.
Imbant is obviously Tasos' father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
Feel free to pm me if this is a serious question. Otherwise im going to just consider it baiting.
Imbant is obviously Tasos' father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.
LOL, you couldn't be more right my friend I was thinking the samething.
Smarter than the average bear? That is assuming bears are smart.
From what i have seen lately of beta leaks,this game will struggle to hold any subs.There is no way on earth Tasos could hire or take on more budget,they are going to struggle as it is.This game will fall faster than AOC did,i just hope for their sake,they have enough initial subs to garner a profit.I have yet to see a second rate developer put out a top notch effort,i think this will be another in the long line of indie developers.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
I think SOE will pickup Darkfall if it fails, to add to their illustrous list of colorfull MMO's. I mean why not couldn't hurt.
Smarter than the average bear? That is assuming bears are smart.
Feel free to pm me if this is a serious question. Otherwise im going to just consider it baiting.
Imbant is obviously Tasos' father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.
To be fair, even he is starting to realize that a trainwreck is imminent, and has just resurfaced recently so he can claim that he believed all along that "game should be delayed" in order to not look like a total imbecile.
Feel free to pm me if this is a serious question. Otherwise im going to just consider it baiting.
Imbant is obviously Tasos' father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.
To be fair, even he is starting to realize that a trainwreck is imminent, and has just resurfaced recently so he can claim that he believed all along that "game should be delayed" in order to not look like a total imbecile.
Wow you are an impressive person sir.
edit: not worth it
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos