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First of all ill start by saying that ive been following this game for like 3-4 years and its been sneaky as hell ever since with nearly no media released at all. Now when theres been beta leaks alot of us understand why. It doesnt only have horrid graphics it has freaking HORRID grafics and the animations is up the a*ss!
Yeah its true it might have alot of content but it doesnt look fun to play at all. And if this game would be so freaking awesome how come they barely released any media at all? Its becose it has the standards of a game that sould have been released many many years ago!
I will state that im not a hater at all. But rather one of those who thought "hey cool this may be something worth playing!". And im really dissapointed.. Even tho im no graphic hoe i still want the game to be fun and the combat as seen in severall beta leaks it looks like utter crap and im not the only one that thinks this obviously.
Alot of people has been stating that its gonna be lots and lots of content due to the long time its been in development.. But i honestly think that its been in development for so long becose the company sucks ass which i say they have proven the latest months ignoring and handling all the situations like crap! I think they are in the last mile of the release and has realized that "This game is gonna be crap!" Thus not releasing any media and having a NDA for closed beta which is active for 5 years after the game release!!! 5 years after release!!!!!!!!!
I hate to say it but i think that most people will be really dissapointed. We will just have to wait and see whats gonna happen but dont trust release dates they state.
Flame if you want but i dont give a rats ass. This is a topic posted with personal opinions and what his game "Might" become and not is. Ive personally not tested it but ive lost my appetite long ago.
Pew pew!
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Yeah, WoW and AoC is ---> this way.
DFO isn't built for graphic-"insert-do-it-for-money-person-here" if you spent 4 years waiting for this game and didn't figure that out, then I dont even feel sorry for you.
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I have nothing clever to say.
Whilst you may like to think that Aventurine aren't doing it for the money, I can assure you that they are, and even if they weren't, anyone stupid enough to invest in this train-wreck definately are looking to make their money back at the very least.
I hate to break it to you, but you're a hater. Don't deny it, revel in it.
Secondly, its just as silly to trash a game before release as it is to rave about a game before release (Maybe a little less silly since history is on your side. Most game do blow).
You can't go by the beta to judge the game. In AoC's beta, a week before release they patched the beta client and the whole game went from crappy looking to amazing looking. (too bad thats all they had). It became apparent that the beta testers weren't working with the real client, but a watered down alternative beta version. Of course that didn't end up working too well for AoC in the long run but still the point is you can't judge how a game looks based on beta, even a couple weeks before launch.
I hate to break it to you, but you're a hater. Don't deny it, revel in it.
Secondly, its just as silly to trash a game before release as it is to rave about a game before release (Maybe a little less silly since history is on your side. Most game do blow).
You can't go by the beta to judge the game. In AoC's beta, a week before release they patched the beta client and the whole game went from crappy looking to amazing looking. (too bad thats all they had). It became apparent that the beta testers weren't working with the real client, but a watered down alternative beta version. Of course that didn't end up working too well for AoC in the long run but still the point is you can't judge how a game looks based on beta, even a couple weeks before launch.
We are not talking about some graphic patch here. We are talking about 90% of the content missing lol.
No miracle patch is going to fix that so close to launch.
The only workable mob they seem to have right now are goblins .
Most of the skills are bugged. Character creation bugged. etc. etc. etc. etc.
Age of Conan looked like a Super polished game at it's launch compaired to Darkfall.
So it's nothing about hate. It's about common sense and about something we already knew. And that's Tasos have been lying and bragging all along about the state of the game.
Hence, even Gaute Godager looks like the most trutfull holy saint compaired to him right now.
Darkfall is in Alpha state! Pure and simple. The real and only Beta test has just begun. And they clearly need months, so not even longer, to get this game up to a state it's maybe release worthy.
Cheers
Didn`t you read the quotes from that betaforum? The game isn`t ready yet, and wont be for god knows how long.
And that`s not even the bad thing in DF atm, combat is. If you can manage through your first days of playing without getting a murderer you are good. You will accedently hit another player and flag grey all the time. If you are lucky and just let the other player kill and loot you, you`ll do fine. If you chose to defend yourself and kill the player you accedently hit, you will be a murderer in no time.
Some will claim it is because you suck at playing, but look at the youtube movies. It happens all the time in PvE and imagine what will happen if three players run ito your swings on purpose. No room for the anti PK in this game because all will be red.
Whilst you may like to think that Aventurine aren't doing it for the money, I can assure you that they are, and even if they weren't, anyone stupid enough to invest in this train-wreck definately are looking to make their money back at the very least.
Please point out to me where your post in reply to mine, have anything in common? where did I say that they did not do it for the money? if you are refereing to the "insert-do-it-for-money-person-here" then I suggest you read it again, it has nothing to do with aventurine not wanting to make money.
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I have nothing clever to say.
I hate to break it to you, but you're a hater. Don't deny it, revel in it.
Secondly, its just as silly to trash a game before release as it is to rave about a game before release (Maybe a little less silly since history is on your side. Most game do blow).
You can't go by the beta to judge the game. In AoC's beta, a week before release they patched the beta client and the whole game went from crappy looking to amazing looking. (too bad thats all they had). It became apparent that the beta testers weren't working with the real client, but a watered down alternative beta version. Of course that didn't end up working too well for AoC in the long run but still the point is you can't judge how a game looks based on beta, even a couple weeks before launch.
We are not talking about some graphic patch here. We are talking about 90% of the content missing lol.
No miracle patch is going to fix that so close to launch.
The only workable mob they seem to have right now are goblins .
Most of the skills are bugged. Character creation bugged. etc. etc. etc. etc.
Age of Conan looked like a Super polished game at it's launch compaired to Darkfall.
So it's nothing about hate. It's about common sense and about something we already knew. And that's Tasos have been lying and bragging all along about the state of the game.
Hence, even Gaute Godager looks like the most trutfull holy saint compaired to him right now.
Darkfall is in Alpha state! Pure and simple. The real and only Beta test has just begun. And they clearly need months, so not even longer, to get this game up to a state it's maybe release worthy.
Cheers
You truly havent been reading up on the leaks when you write this, however I suspect that you have and are flat out lying to bash the game. That isn't new, that isn't even original.
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I have nothing clever to say.
You truly havent been reading up on the leaks when you write this, however I suspect that you have and are flat out lying to bash the game. That isn't new, that isn't even original.
I have no need to bash this game. It's doing it all by itself in form of Tasos and the current beta leaks speak more then enough for themselves.
Funny thing, you saw those videos and went EWW OMG that sucks, I saw them and was like, holy shit, is that the inventory from UO!? Rock on!
OMG! Is that the casting / spell dodging from AC1! Rock on!
However, I will agree with you that so far AV has been a bunch of tards when it comes to handling the game, and you may be right that its just not ready for the light of day, but from what I have seen in the leaks, there is at least a core shell Id enjoy the hell out of.
Originally posted by Pyrostasis
Funny thing, you saw those videos and went EWW OMG that sucks, I saw them and was like, holy shit, is that the inventory from UO!? Rock on!
OMG! Is that the casting / spell dodging from AC1! Rock on!
However, I will agree with you that so far AV has been a bunch of tards when it comes to handling the game, and you may be right that its just not ready for the light of day, but from what I have seen in the leaks, there is at least a core shell Id enjoy the hell out of.
/agree
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DarkFall will keep all the no skill nonhardcore pvpers away. n
You won't hear me saying that there isn't any fun stuff in DF to see.
Problem is... if you take aside the hitching and chuncking in Vanguard.. then deep down the game was downright fun!
The quests were great. The dungeons were great. The crafting was great.
What put most people of the game, next to the obvious performance issues, was running from one empty unfinished zone into the other.
It's nice to have a vast open gameworld, but if most of it is empty, unpopulated and unfinished, then it will be a Vanguard DeJaVu all over again.
And with DF it's going to be even a much much bigger issue as it's an FFA PVP game.
The great thing of the vast gameworld is that you could escape the excessive ganking that is going to take place around the starter towns.
But that means jack s*hit if there is no content beyond the starter zones!
I think they should not have full loot, just random drop from your items , this way people are more often to have something worth full looting, day 1 to end game noone is going to have jack worth anything to loot.. so who cares if it's full loot.. wow, look i got another rusted dagger woot and when people start to carry bettter , it will mean it is still worth nothing.. radom drops are better, youmay get that cool sword or just the boots but atleast it's good stuff
+1. Genious
DarkFall will keep all the no skill nonhardcore pvpers away. n
You better hope not. DF ain't going to last long on the sub fees of only skilled hardcore pvpers.
+1. Genious
DarkFall will keep all the no skill nonhardcore pvpers away. n
You know, I'm tired of reading comments like this. For the last time, aiming towards the mob/player and clicking your mouse over and over again does not = skill. It also doesn't make it hardcore unless by "hardcore" you mean "retarded".
I like the part where you try to say you're not a hater. Its obvious you are. Heck, just need to see how you titled your thread to know that.
The graphics are excellent but some of the animations aren't that great but they aren't that bad either.
Its obvious you've been ganked one too many times in other MMORPGs and are now affected by it. A game enviorment like Darkfall is very scarey for you. Don't worry, you don't have to play it. You can get through this fear.
Someone give the OP a common sense award.
I salute you. Down with Tasos "vague on purpose" Flambouras.
This is the game that has been in 8 years of development:
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=DFLeaker&view=videos
+1. Genious
DarkFall will keep all the no skill nonhardcore pvpers away. n
You better hope not. DF ain't going to last long on the sub fees of only skilled hardcore pvpers.
What defines a hardcore pvper anyway? Someone who roams around with better gear or numbers killing everyone else? Is hardcore pvp defined as a game where someone can undo all your work simply by outnumbering you, being better equipped, or having the RNG work in their favor?
Why don't you all play a FPS or RTS if you want 100% skill and tactic based combat instead of an RPG? Is it because you can gain an advantage in a RPG in the form of levels, skill levels, magics, and equipment? If you want a 100% fair fight you play a FPS or an RTS with everyone playing the same faction, RPGs never place the player on a level playing field.
And why not have MMO FPS or RTS if you want a massive feel, but few exist and rarely hold market share.
Don't even bring EVE Online up as hardcore PVP, it is very easy to avoid fights, and even if you lose your ship its not the end of the world, saying goes don't fly what you can't afford to replace. Problem with DF will be there is no Concord (Instant ship destruction for aggressor), there are no good turrets to attack criminals (Towers in DF), and there is no quick escape (Warp in EVE). Everyone in DF will run around with nothing on because they are afraid to lose everything, thats going to be fun.
+1. Genious
DarkFall will keep all the no skill nonhardcore pvpers away. n
You better hope not. DF ain't going to last long on the sub fees of only skilled hardcore pvpers.
What defines a hardcore pvper anyway? Someone who roams around with better gear or numbers killing everyone else? Is hardcore pvp defined as a game where someone can undo all your work simply by outnumbering you, being better equipped, or having the RNG work in their favor?
Why don't you all play a FPS or RTS if you want 100% skill and tactic based combat instead of an RPG? Is it because you can gain an advantage in a RPG in the form of levels, skill levels, magics, and equipment? If you want a 100% fair fight you play a FPS or an RTS with everyone playing the same faction, RPGs never place the player on a level playing field.
And why not have MMO FPS or RTS if you want a massive feel, but few exist and rarely hold market share.
Don't even bring EVE Online up as hardcore PVP, it is very easy to avoid fights, and even if you lose your ship its not the end of the world, saying goes don't fly what you can't afford to replace. Problem with DF will be there is no Concord (Instant ship destruction for aggressor), there are no good turrets to attack criminals (Towers in DF), and there is no quick escape (Warp in EVE). Everyone in DF will run around with nothing on because they are afraid to lose everything, thats going to be fun.
The hardcore pvp'er not only doesn't care about all the other aspects of an MMORPG (crafting, rp, economy, pve, social) they actively despise them. It can be baffling to see hardcore pvp'ers decry the rp aspects of the current mmoRPg they are playing. This brings us to the question you posed: Why not just play multiplayer games where they can deathmatch all day long? Answer: Because the hardcore pvp'er isn't about pvp. Its about annoying people. And no one (I hate to admit it but its true) gets more indignant nor provides as much satisfaction/entertainment to the pvp'er than the rp'er who's rp (in iambic pentameter of course) has just been interrupted by an asshat screaming leet speak.
Note: I differentiate the hardcore pvp'er as a different type of player than a pvp enthusiast.
Anyway my point stands: A game made up of just these people as customers would fail.
+1. Genious
DarkFall will keep all the no skill nonhardcore pvpers away. n
You better hope not. DF ain't going to last long on the sub fees of only skilled hardcore pvpers.
What defines a hardcore pvper anyway? Someone who roams around with better gear or numbers killing everyone else? Is hardcore pvp defined as a game where someone can undo all your work simply by outnumbering you, being better equipped, or having the RNG work in their favor?
Why don't you all play a FPS or RTS if you want 100% skill and tactic based combat instead of an RPG? Is it because you can gain an advantage in a RPG in the form of levels, skill levels, magics, and equipment? If you want a 100% fair fight you play a FPS or an RTS with everyone playing the same faction, RPGs never place the player on a level playing field.
And why not have MMO FPS or RTS if you want a massive feel, but few exist and rarely hold market share.
Don't even bring EVE Online up as hardcore PVP, it is very easy to avoid fights, and even if you lose your ship its not the end of the world, saying goes don't fly what you can't afford to replace. Problem with DF will be there is no Concord (Instant ship destruction for aggressor), there are no good turrets to attack criminals (Towers in DF), and there is no quick escape (Warp in EVE). Everyone in DF will run around with nothing on because they are afraid to lose everything, thats going to be fun.
The hardcore pvp'er not only doesn't care about all the other aspects of an MMORPG (crafting, rp, economy, pve, social) they actively despise them. It can be baffling to see hardcore pvp'ers decry the rp aspects of the current mmoRPg they are playing. This brings us to the question you posed: Why not just play multiplayer games where they can deathmatch all day long? Answer: Because the hardcore pvp'er isn't about pvp. Its about annoying people. And no one (I hate to admit it but its true) gets more indignant nor provides as much satisfaction/entertainment to the pvp'er than the rp'er who's rp (in iambic pentameter of course) has just been interrupted by an asshat screaming leet speak.
Note: I differentiate the hardcore pvp'er as a different type of player than a pvp enthusiast.
Anyway my point stands: A game made up of just these people as customers would fail.
This is honesty here, folks. Hardcore PvPers in RPGs are griefers, plain and simple. If you actually wanted skill and challenge you'd play other genres (as said, FPS/RTS/etc). If you did play FPS's, your favorite fun would be people that only have knives and you have a sniper rifle on a wide open, very long map.
It dont matter what your opinion is its obvious your a troll, and you have no clue at all how game realy looks like.
Keep trolling keep hyping DARKFALL thx:)
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.