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bapowers · February 2009

Hail!

I've been a long time FF fanatic. Just now deciding to hop into the game on the 14 day free trial.

So server suggestions? Would like to find an active North American based linkshell with friendly players of the more mature variety. I'm sitting at 29 years right now, getting tired of the tweenie boppers in other MMO's. Yes I braved the WoW front all the way through BC end game. Playing WaR currently but am not renewing my sub. Veteran player of EQ, DoAC, among others. I have heard that this game has ALOT of depth. Good crafting system, and the main thing I've heard about it is the community. That it is helpful and very friendly since the community is mainly made up of players like me, good ole fashioned FF Fanatics.

Also does anyone have any idea which would be better for me? I've started the update process on the trial which is now sitting at about 5 hours left. Should I just go with the digital version of the 08 collection or hop down to my local game store and pick up the boxed edition if I choose to stick around.

Not gonna go into which type of character should I play because there are so many, and I'm not so lazy I can't read the guides to decide. Probably WHM/BRD since I love support characters. Yet I do fancy the Ninja . Anyhow thanks in advance for any help I recieve.

Much Love,

Priest

Satimasu · February 2009

I'm on Kujata, it's a pretty good server with a decent population. If you happen to choose it, let me know and I'll help you get started.

It sounds like you wouldn't have any real trouble starting in the game, since you're not all about the easy button. It's going to take a bit of getting used to, but I don't think that would be a problem for you.

When choosing a race, just go with what you like, don't even look at the stats of the job. Since any race can be any job, you don't have to be restricted by stats. Sure, some races are good with certain jobs, but that doesn't mean a race that has a handicap in that job can't do well with it.

The support jobs are usually the busiest. NIN is considered a tank, but you don't really have to play it that way if you choose. I certainly didn't when I leveled it for subjob purposes.

If you have any other questions, we're here to answer. The stickies at the top of the forum should help with a lot of questions.

dominia · February 2009

Like Sati said, don't worry about race just go with one you can stand playing for a long amount of time. Each race has their own perks and advantages (and in some cases different styles of play) that as lon as you're enjoying yourself, it won't matter.

For class, my recommedation is to always at least level white mage to 35. This will get some of your teleports (which can save a ton fo time and money) and many classes work well off a whm sub.

To that end I would also say level ninja at least to 35. The same idea can be applied here as most melee class (and a few caster classes) do very well with a nin sub.

If I had to recommend a main job though, that's a good partier and support, it'd have to be my personal favorite bard.

bapowers · February 2009

Lexin · February 2009

Just figure out what you want to take to 75 then find out what SJ is needed and take that/them to 37 asap. I play on Bismarck and for the most part people are still leveling in the lower level area's and my LS seem to get partys going there everyday.

Wizardry · February 2009

I don't want to get into arguments,but 99% of the people are just wrong.

I will leave you with these examples,let the OP draw his own conclusions,talk is cheap,in game real facts are not.

Mithra vs Elven Thief.

Level 34 time for SATA....Mithra has +9dex and +8 more AGI both HUGE factors in SATA.Any race tries to match that with gear/items food ,is NOT a factor because the Mithra can do the EXACT same thing,other than getting into RSE,witch half ass makes up for the difference,but even then you are FORCED to wear it,while the better class has more options.

Some classes have better stats for enfeebs or nuking,some can with stand DBL/triple hit mobs MUCH better because of their superior Hit Points and VIT.Some BCNM's ENM's are so tight for MP,you will not get away with an inferior MP class,so i will not get into this any further..RACE DOES matter a LOT !.

Everything is do able in the game,your choice makes it harder or easier and will not add anything to fun so why make it harder?I played a Taru RANGR and although it was fun,i could not begin to explain the frustration dying with full shadows up ,just because i unleashed a Sidewinder and drew instant hate,and that was from constant SATA onto a PLD tank.

What is even funnier ,is that so many are quick to say class does not matter,but the AH always shows people spending outrageous amounts of gil on items that offer the smallest of stats like +1 or +2 more in a stat.In the case i just showed the Mithra vs Elven ,imagine what players would pay for a level 34 item offering +9 dex and +8 agi?think about it is simple math.

bellsouthpwp2.net/k/i/kinematicf/FFXI/StatCalculator/

I threw in the stat calculator,in case the OP wants to look it over and help him pick his race/job.

Satimasu · February 2009

You think we don't know this? I already said all races have certain handicaps with certain jobs. You going to make a new character when you want to play a job their good at and go through all the quests and missions all over again? You're eventually going to be playing a job that your race isn't good at one day. Why base picking a race that you're stuck with forever just for one single job you will excel at?

Mithra may be hitting harder with Sneak and Trick, but the Elvaan will be hitting harder with normal attacks with more STR. I'm not going to get into it. Picking race based off jobs is so 2004.

We know all of these things, we just don't want the OP or anyone else for that matter to make the mistake and pick solely based on one job. What if they end up not liking the job they pick after a while? Oops, time to start all over again. That's what we're trying to avoid.

Wizardry · February 2009

Hence why you give him the stats and let him make his decision,if he makes a mistake oh well,at least he has the actual numbers to make his decisions.Using the excuse that he should ignore the best possible setup because he may make a mistake ,IMO is the wrong way to make a decision.How about if he does NOT make a mistake and regrets not picking the best possible setup?see it works both ways.

I did also mention flexible setups too did i not?That is why i left the calculator,it is quite a simple fact that if the OP decided to play several Melee jobs a TARU would be the worst choice.That covers a LOT of jobs such a war/nin/pld so on and so on.If he just ignores the facts,the numbers he would be making the game harder for himself.If he decides to pretty much stick to several different mage jobs ,then again he has the calculator to see the pros and cons,a Galkan would make a horrible choice for an all mage player,this again covers MANY jobs ,NOT one.

Players started the arguments long ago,because they wanted to all be accepted in their roles,because fact is MANY people play favourites when picking players for their group.If they had a choice between a Taru PLD and a Elven or Galken they would pick the Galkan or Elven,aside from picking their friends or LS of course.I did ALSO mention most jobs are easily doable until 37 for a sub job,because most mobs in the game are quite easy until that level,and the RSE gear kind of carries you to that level as well,witch i also mentioned.

Personally i feel the majority of players in FXI are mature and will pick any race/job for their group,lack of players makes that decision even easier.The reason i give the OP the stats to make the best possible decision is to make his game play the best possible way it can,i think most want the most from their game,not the lesser.

Satimasu · February 2009

So, by what you're saying, I made a mistake when I picked an Elvaan BLM. When I first started, I didn't go by race stats vs. job, I picked what I liked. So I made the second worst possible choice for race wise for a BLM. I honestly didn't even know they were the second worst. That didn't stop me from getting BLM to 75. I also made a mistake and leveled RDM too. So, the only thing I did right was level a melee job, DRG.

You also forgot to mention that player skill trumps any sort of decked out job with the perfect race for it. If you really wanted to have the best of everything, you might as well be a Hume. At least you know you could just buff up the job stats you want to focus on and almost be at the top. That's the thing, you could always have a change of heart and if you're a person that only thinks of racial stats to jobs, then you're never going to want to level the job you want to level.

Mages can get away with being able to wear RSE for what stats they lack in for a long time. So, it kinda' makes it a moot point for that. Melee's aren't so lucky, but that doesn't mean they'll suck horribly if they're a Taru or whatever. There are always the amazing Taru PLD's and the horrible Galka ones. I know I've seen tanks like that. Also, a lot of the stats start to even out more at endgame, and merits are what will start to separate jobs.

I see where you're coming from and you just have the best intentions, it's just with so many kinds of changes that have happened, things don't have to work that way anymore.

ic0n67 · February 2009

Originally posted by Satimasu
So I made the second worst possible choice for race wise for a BLM. I honestly didn't even know they were the second worst. That didn't stop me from getting BLM to 75.

Just shows they will take anyone if they are desparate ... ... just kidding

Anywho ... race isn't imporant. There is gear out there to compensate for any shortcomings of picking a particular race. It isn't like some other mmos where the race dictates some special abilties that you can't recover. It is a matter of what you want to be.

bapowers · February 2009

Well I started out on 2 servers. Bismark and Pandy. Started a WHM on Bis, and a MNK on Pandy. So far I'm liking the MNK alot better, not as slow at killing and not as frustrating lol. Anyway, haven't seen much in population on either. Only have about 4 or 5 days on the trial left so I'm not sure wether or not I will stick around. Still waiting on an MMO to keep my attention. Anyways thanks for all the suggestions all of you gave and all the info, shows there is an MMO community out there that is helpful and not full of assclowns just talking crap. Gives me hope for the future of the genre.

baruser · February 2009

I just wanted to add something to this thread in regard to the argument that race doesn't matter.

In any MMO [RPG] there are players who will want to play their character to the absolute best of their ability. This involves eliminating as many shortcomings possible and picking the best possible race to compliment their selected class.

So while someone's race won't matter as much to other people, it may matter to the person playing the character.

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