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Have to agree Vanguard needs to sad burial.
Walkerboh63
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I know vanguard is still live and sadly taking a few players for their cash, but i was in beta and off and on for all of the time its been live. We players in beta tried to get them to hold off launch do to the many bugs and high requirements for gaming but know i see why they went ahead. They would still be in beta and no launch if they had waited. The money counters figured hey lets get the money will the buzz is still warm. I sadly spent $80.00 or more on the deluxe version praying they would be able to fix. Be it known i was in eq, eq2 coh, lotro, gw, etc all in betas and played eq most of the time till lotro. all had bugs. but!!! the developers quickly fixed them after launch. Sadly Vanguard has several times begged me to play for free and i can't even stand to do that. I have played d&d online, AC, FUNNY AC2 REMINDS ME ALITTLE OF Vanguard but at least Turbine had the balls to kill AC2. Hoped sony would fix Vanguard but i guess they spend all their time in swg , eq, eq2 because they all work and play well. Heck even shadowbane is better. Im currently playing WOW because im bored and waiting for darkfall to launch. Sadly i didnt get in beta yet but im still praying. Im sure Brad is somewhere in a bar drinking and hiding in shame.
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The question remains. Why should you care if the game still exist or not?. How does it affect your life?. I feel those are more important questions to be asked.
The question remains. Why should you care if the game still exist or not?. How does it affect your life?. I feel those are more important questions to be asked.
Better Question is, Why did he create a Alt account to come troll our fourms...
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
Samuel Adams
The question remains. Why should you care if the game still exist or not?. How does it affect your life?. I feel those are more important questions to be asked.
Better Question is, Why did he create a Alt account to come troll our fourms...
You think he created an alt account over a year ago just waiting until now to make his presence known? If it's an alt account created for the purpose of trolling, he would have posted previously. Sounds legit to me. He just finally had enough of Vanguard and SOE.
I liked AC2 and I like Vanguard. I don't care that I'm in the minority. If you don't like the games don't play them.
I know novel concept huh?
Oh and trolling this forum was old news ages ago, try the wow forums, lots of people here hate it and lots play it so you get better responses for your efforts.
Funny how he said they spend all their time in eq,eq2 and swg, when the devs in Vanguard have been fixing things and creating new content all of which they have been adding lately. And since they added the trial there has actually been a raise in population. This is a totally different game than when it launched. Normally I just roll my eyes at the ignorant posts about it, but they seem to be gathering in number recently, must be a full moon or something or maybe they are all just fanbois of darkfall or somethign else, trying to divert attention from that games failings and mishandling. But I totally agree, if you dont like the game, well guess what..no one is forcing you to play it and most troll posts like that just end up making you sound like some pathetic emo whiner searchign for attention. And so I agree with the poster above, go to the WoW forums, its alive and full of the same types.
I for one really like Vanguard and I am glad to see them working so hard to improve it constantly. Now I can play the game on max settings with no lag or hitching, where even in beta you almost had to stay on lowest settings to move around, so saying they havent done any work on it is ill-informed.
i came back to vanguard several months ago waiting for mines of moria to come out. i was pleasantly surprised that alot of things had been fixed and alot more content was added. i had quit playing maybe 2 months or so after launch so it had been a year or so since i came back. people were always on and i had several friends playing as well. i still think its a good game but i did get tired of it especially after that hideous grind to get the armour in vol tuniel.
The question remains. Why should you care if the game still exist or not?. How does it affect your life?. I feel those are more important questions to be asked.
Better Question is, Why did he create a Alt account to come troll our fourms...
You think he created an alt account over a year ago just waiting until now to make his presence known? If it's an alt account created for the purpose of trolling, he would have posted previously. Sounds legit to me. He just finally had enough of Vanguard and SOE.
No... that just makes him a Master Troll :P
And Ill start looking at Created dates from now on.../shoe in mouth.
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
Samuel Adams
was it not mcquaid and whatever his company was the peeps who attempted to realease this game in a bad state, then soe kinda took over at the end, finally keeping the game for them selves and actually improving the game?
Watching Fanbois drop their soap in a prison full of desperate men.
Actually, when I read his post, I got the impression that he hasn't played since around release. Sounds to me like he still has a grudge against a game that burned him a couple years ago and has very little clue as to what's changed since then.
Yeah they Launched it Early saying that its Launch Now or Never... Brad really was a Idiot asfar as running a Company goes tho..
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
Samuel Adams
I could never play Vanguard SOH now. Yes SOE has fixed a lot of bugs and performance issues but in the process has changed the game's original vision drastically. It isn't the great design that it was in the beginning.
They have tried to transform it in to a copy of EQ 2 which tried to copy WoW after release. I have not interest in what Vanguard has become nor do I care of the EQ 2 after the big revamp in the beginning.
I swear, these people are paid. Or it's the same person creating new accounts to make the same troll post over and over.
I don't know what you are talking about. The game is extremely playable now.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
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Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Okay maybe i should further explain to some of you what i ment. One, at my age i don't dwell on a game. My point was as a developer , beta player myself its was just a player must not allow a company to just half way do a job. 2 , i stated in my forum many free attempts to lure me back, yes i tried everytime for a month or so. I do not agree that game is far better. Its like the after math of hurricane katrina. yes some fixes where made but alas many problems still remain. I don't care if you agree or disagree. I play alot of games off and on just because i get bored and want a new challenge. But all i listed where playable games. Not a hodgepodge of useless data that any sound developer would just say that didn't work but this will. Many games know are seemless even AC WAS 10YRS AGO. Vanguard has a memory leak the size of the past White House Administration. Im sure some of you will again disagree and thats okay, its a free country. But don't attempt to try to get me to believe Vanguard is a thriving game with a sound game platform. I played just a few weeks ago, and various times in the past. Yes im sure ill try again for free. Maybe. Believe it or not i really want it to work. It has all a mmorpg needs as far as game ideas. i did like the newby starting area you had options to play. But once you left and entered the game it was still broken in many many places. Please by all means play if you like it some people like to look the other way and hope it passes. Me i just like to fix problems. And have fun in my spare time playing mmorpgs. Who knows maybe someday it will get fixed. Like maybe someday our earth will return to normal and climate change will be a thing of the past. That is if you believe in such a current problem we and our children face. If you think the world is okay and its just a normal part of Earths timeline im sure theirs alot of OIL CO'S , 3RD country factory owners , Big three Auto exe's who would gladly pat you on the back and say At a Boy for believing. Just like Vanguard Bean counters are doing know. Good luck with that. Peace.
First of all, no one is saying Vanguard is a thriving game.
And regardless of what you call huge issues (and regardless of you caring) I personally don't see them or haven't seen them. I have not experienced this memory leak.
I'm not sure if a memory leak is something that a different machine would experience differently or if it's dependent on where you are in the game bit the game plays fine for me.
I have seen bugs but they are so minor that if one truly wants to experience a different game with gamplay that is based a bit more on exploration then I can easily see them overcome.
I've played the game at launch, when sony first took over and my recent trial and the improvement is extremely noticable.
No, this game will never be WoW or LOTRO or whatever you want to name as a successful polished game, but it is not the train wreck that people are trying to make it if you approach it with an open mind. Players who require hand holding or a jam packed game world will have problems as it's a huge world. HUGE! I don't see where, with an extremely healthy population you would see many people except hubs.
If you are having technical issues then you are having them. Can't argue with that. But I don't think everyone will.
The game is a bit retro and take time.
If people are wanting to shout Looking for Group and expecting to get in one immediately they might have issues.
But for the right player this game can be a gem.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
I am one of those disgruntled beta players but I am going to give the game a second try soon. LoTRO will still be my primary but I used to use EQII as a secondary game when I got "LoTRO" burnout but then EQII began to get old. AoC and WaR were dissapointing to me and I reallly am not counting on anything due out this year so as soon as I get some tiome to really give the game a good evaluation I will be giving it another try.
I miss DAoC
My advice would be to start at the new trial isle.
Also, since the game world is so large you should probably expect to spend a lot of time playing. To me, this is the type of game that a small guild who wants to have a more retro experience should start playing.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
It is obviously affecting his life somehow. Getting that upset over a game is strange, but he must face the problem head on. If not, he could be doomed. He needs to resub and see all the changes in the game and make an educated opinion, instead of a half-assed one. Then he can heal and move on. As weird as this sounds, it might be the answer.
Accept the quest, young Troll.
What people need to realize is that VG is a niche game that will never have a huge sub base. However, to those of us who like what VG is, then it is a good game despite the bugs, flaws, etc.
I encountered a bug last night, but I didn't come running to the boards shouting that the game is doomed because of it. It is a testament to the game that it has survived for two years in spite of the problems it has.
If you like exploration, thinking, reasoning, logic, problem solving, etc., and not having everything handed to you with only minimal effort, then you just may like VG. Give it a try. What do you have to lose?
Ion
Kids Today. Im not even going to try im laughing to hard. Good luck to all the rest. at least you somewhat understand.
To fawdown , you truely don'y understand. pity. I have a extremely good computer. im a beta tester. I need the best to fix problems. AFFECTING MY LIFE? Please ill not even bother with that one. Reroll? Hello again thats how you search out the problems in a game. I have nothing more to say about this. Please feel free to and i encourage you to keep playing. never said not to. And as far as being a troll. Im still laughing at that one sorry. peace.
Actually, I'm 61 years old. I don't think that qualifies me as a kid anymore.
Based on your handle, is it safe to assume that you are a big Terry Brooks fan?
Actually, I'm 61 years old. I don't think that qualifies me as a kid anymore.
Based on your handle, is it safe to assume that you are a big Terry Brooks fan?
Youre an old kid.
Well, I'm 41 and not a kid.
I have a decent but not top of the line computer and the game runs very well for me. Perhaps that really is your problem, if you beta test a lot you are a bit too senstivie to issues. I think the issues that I see with Vanguard are completely workable. And as I've said, I've not seen this memory leak (though I understand that at one point the game had one) as the game runs pretty smooth.
The problem I have with your assertion is that your title insists that the game is beyond hope and should just be set aside for other things. This would be a disservice as I think there is a lot to this game that others might enjoy.
The game runs fine in my opinion and also based on my experience. It might run fine for others too. If this is the case then they might find a fun and rewarding experience. They should try it out for themselves as long as they approach it without the "this is going to be like WoW" mentaltiy.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Very impressive , the 3 replys to my last forum where all in my age range. Im 46 hence Walkerboh63, Yes Ionselon i do love Terry Brooks. Even though he based alot of the 1st 3 books on JRR TOLKIEN. Just the characters & basic story line. But the rest of the story was pure Brooks very entertaining. I also loved Joel Rosenbergs Guardians of the Flame series. Ever read John Bellairs The face in the frost. Its fantastic. SHAME HE ONLY WROTE THE ONE BOOK. Sorry getting of subject. The kids part of just toward Fawdown. Want to place bets he or she responds and says she is as old as us? Which im sure would be very improbable. Thats why i put in my forum that some did understand like you Sovrath & Shol. I do agree i was alittle harsh with the burial line. I think they could do alot better and its not worth the price tag they charge. Guild wars works great and its free. So lets compromise. Vanguard charge $9.99 to encourage more new players. Change their system engine to either EQ2 or SWG untill they can lower the performance requirements for the engine they currently use. Yes it can be done and remarkably in a fairly short time. No servers will be effected players wouldn't even know about it untill the did a patch its like updating a old graphics look to new. That to will bring in more lower spec players who can't afford better systems. Im sure you will argue that alot of systems know are lower end but im not convinced. I take my computer when beta testing up and down several system ranges to test all functions. That way game stays open to players new and old and gets better quicker. They have had alot of time and need to change their stubborn ways. All will be happer in the end. I do truly app all your comments and opinions. Sincerly Walkerboh63. Peace
Engineers have a word ("suboptimization") for describing when there is an irresponsibile focus on a single goal to the detriment of the entire organization.
SOE does not seem committed to developing Vanguard with the speed and resources necessary to take it to the next level. The game has been released for a number of years now, and yet some of us still closely follow its progress.
SOE's determination of where to take Vanguard will be a watershed moment and have more lasting impact than any event hithertofore:
SOE does not have the resources to accomplish all (any?) of these ends. The question SOE must ask, perhaps even confront, is this: whether to use resoruces to (1) attract new players or (2) keep old players. Management would ideally try to accomplish both, but the resources seem so scrace that neither new players nor old players would be satisfied.
Reengineer and Retrofit
To achieve cost savings, Vanguard perhaps should relook at old zones designed for low levels and change those for higher level players. The need to add additional zones, and dungeons, in this vast world seems like a small need, indeed.
As far as retrofitting is concerned, it should do what it is doing in terms of looking into AA point abilities and seeing how developments in the industry can be applied to the game for a deeper experience. Is it possible to have a truly unique character in the world that is more than surface fluff? Sure.
Incomplete Content
The world still has vast areas and dungeons that are not finished. The game simply needs more resources to achieve anything - for both new and old players.