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NCsoft withdrawing from Europe.
After 50 fired European employees a few days ago, someone from NCSoft West comments:
www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/withdrawal-from-europe-a-missed-opportunity-says-former-ncsoft-exec
What this means for Aion? No European Aion release? No local versions, only English? Lineage 2 nightmares?
Just doesn't look promising when there's no one to represent Europe for Aion.
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Probably will still produce the game for EU, but just keep the operations based in the west.
Completely agree with this employee, anyway seems that ncsoft is watching EU / NA as a 3rd rated gaming community, which is indeed sad, if they release Aion one year or more later than in corea im sure they will lose a ton of subs., but seems that they just dont care.
No where has it ever been hinted that NCsoft is dropping EU support. Before we had a defunct NA support and now you're afraid it's going to be the opposite for EU... /sigh
We don't know until people are reorganized in their new offices and new people have been hired what type of quality we will be getting according to NCsoft we should ALL be getting better service after the dust settles and things start rolling again.
I would just chill and wait. According to Liv the release is still going as planned, whatever that that plan is.
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Your just speculating on a 1 sided blog of a dev who lost his job. He did mention they axed the development part of the eurpoe office all thats left is the publisher part.
that alone answers every single question you just asked. Infact the link you provided has another link of interest. Ncsoft saw a 15% reduction in profits. What does that mean. Job cuts things are not going good for them. The big flop of the garriot brothers did to them prior, spending alot of the investment NCsoft did on a defunct game. Hype it to the stars. Gave absolutely no real support to fix their bugged game ect. well you know the rest. Ncsoft has been hit hard and in their current state they cannot afford more development teams which = making new games.
They can however survive with their publishing teams overseas. These teams will see into marketing developed games made by ncsoft's other development team. In short Aion will be released NCsoft needs the money. They just dont have the income to support more dev teams to make new products overseas. Because the game has already been released in Korea, the dev staff there will be doing the patches, add new content ect. Thier Publishing crews overseas will work on the localization of these patches and new content.
I can say you just posted this to troll. its just a 1 sided story of a dev who lost his job, he does NOT represent NCsoft in any way or form.
Watching Fanbois drop their soap in a prison full of desperate men.
Yes exactly and like I keep saying and no one seems to care it's entirely possible NCsoft did not expect their NCsoft West restructuring to go this far, the economy just may have a whole lot to do with it. With all the money they have lost last year do you people not honestly think they would not be at a fragile state right now?
Do not kid yourselves NCsoft is not Sony, they do not have reserves of cash to support games that don't bring in what they cost to make and right now they don't have enough money to support many studios.
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don't worry, you can always keep playing WoW. rolf.
I don't get it, who cares where the developers are? They can have an office on Antarctica for all I care, so long as they get the game ready and provide good enough support.
I'm European, but I think it was a good move to slap NA/EU together, and merge the offices. NCwest is a really good idea as things will hopefully work much more efficient now. Having the offices in the US also makes sense, since I understand they already have talented people there working on GW and such. And maybe they can improve communications now.
Its sad that people had to be fired, and NCsoft should have done this much faster when they first announced NCsoft west.. They really fail, and better be making quick progress now to regain some of the lost trust.
We don't need developers here. Give us europeans good support, good servers, updates on time and equal treatment and we are fine. Handle us like Warhammer Onlines developers did, and we'll leave for something else.
I don't think you're getting the full picture here. Apparently the localization teams were fired too, although no one is certain who was all fired but NCsoft who won't tell anyone.
No localization means no European client, it's as simple as that. If the teams are still working on Aion or not isn't known.
I don't think you're getting the full picture here. Apparently the localization teams were fired too, although no one is certain who was all fired but NCsoft who won't tell anyone.
No localization means no European client, it's as simple as that. If the teams are still working on Aion or not isn't known.
The game will launch in Europe as well, there is no doubt of that. They are going to keep 30ish people in Brighton to handle marketing and support. This was said in the same announcement.
They are localizing the game in English obviously, and I seriously doubt they have two english translating teams for both US english and UK english. That would be laughable since there is little to no difference.
As for the German and French versions, I don't know. Perhaps they sacked those people, but its not like most people don't know English. I don't think the EU market is hurt by not having a French/German client, but I don't know for sure how important a national localization is to those countries.
It will certainly launch in English though and that is the main EU language.
I don't think you're getting the full picture here. Apparently the localization teams were fired too, although no one is certain who was all fired but NCsoft who won't tell anyone.
No localization means no European client, it's as simple as that. If the teams are still working on Aion or not isn't known.
The game will launch in Europe as well, there is no doubt of that. They are going to keep 30ish people in Brighton to handle marketing and support. This was said in the same announcement.
They are localizing the game in English obviously, and I seriously doubt they have two english translating teams for both US english and UK english. That would be laughable since there is little to no difference.
As for the German and French versions, I don't know. Perhaps they sacked those people, but its not like most people don't know English. I don't think the EU market is hurt by not having a French/German client, but I don't know for sure how important a national localization is to those countries.
It will certainly launch in English though and that is the main EU language.
Germans always manage to be fine in english-based mmo's. The french, however, will generally refute things that aren't catered to their liking.
Perhaps a generalization, but i've seen it happen many times.
1) Publishing and marketing departments will stay in Brighton, the distribution and support will remain the same.
2) NCsoft tried to relocate more than what they had to fire due to redundant work, the localization team hasn't been fired, but relocated.
3) Seattle was taking care of the korean->English translation, the localization teams in Brighton were for French, German, (and for GW) Spanish and Italian.
4) Amboss and Atreid (German and French CMs for Aion) were asked to move to Seattle.
I don't think you're getting the full picture here. Apparently the localization teams were fired too, although no one is certain who was all fired but NCsoft who won't tell anyone.
No localization means no European client, it's as simple as that. If the teams are still working on Aion or not isn't known.
Your assuming you have No proof to back up your claim.
If the localization teams were fired (which by all means is part of the publishing team) why would the company be so damn stupid to hire new staff for a game they plan to release overseas. That doesnt make sence why higher new cm's if they cannot localize the game.
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Watching Fanbois drop their soap in a prison full of desperate men.
im not even gonna bother. but the fact is i dont care about what ya think about my grammer.
Watching Fanbois drop their soap in a prison full of desperate men.
And Richard Garriott, his brother, and the failed TR are prime examples of where the money they did have went.
No sympathy for 'em here.
I'm just gonna Quote Ephimero here because its the only one with truth.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
First, the former employee has no clue. No major publisher in EU? CCP comes to mind immediately. Also, if I recall correctly, the DnD online headquarters is in England.
Second, it is not surprising to see some of the companies who are NA based withdrawing from the EU market. The EU market is hostile to NA companies atm, withdrawing most of their investments because of politcal reasons. Well, Obama bin Laden is already rearing his ugly head shifting US on it's way to a communist country, due, partially, to the morons who screamed about Bush, from EU. EU don't like it? Too bad. You reap what you sow.
What..Wait...i'm confused...Are you on the right forum site ? O_o
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
Yes I am on the right site. EU investors pulling out their investments in NA based companies is a big part of the reason for the Stock Market being the way it is currently. It would naturally follow that NA based companies would withdraw their holdings from EU in response. They have no investment support base there any longer. Since NCPlay has moved from being an Asian based company to an NA based company, they fall under those prejudices. Looks like EU will need to start building a better gaming industry if they want to be able to play games that are popular in NA now.
Face palm
(I have come to the end of the internet)
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
I remember Hitler blaming the jew for the woes of Germany before the second world war.
EU withdrawing money from the failing US companies is the reason for US crisis? So you said the US companies were healthy, making good money and the EU investors suddenly decide to pull out? Interesting logic. Go read the calendar, which happens first? Did the bank crisis in US happens first? or the recent withdrawal of funds?
If you really want to blame, blame the Bush adminstration (not just Bush himself) for allowing the speculative bubble to grow way out of proportion and blew up the whole world. Everyone is suffering b/c of this, and frankly speaking everyone deserves a spanking for ignoring the totally unrealistic speculative boom to suck their money in. Whoever joins the speculative wave got burnt.
I Hope they don't pull EU support. They look to have a game that can do well in the west. Right now a lot of western MMO players are getting bored with the current crop of fantasy MMO's available. I got a sneaky feeling Aion will surprise those in the gaming industry just how popular it will become if the polish and animation quality we see in the videos is through out the game.
You don't know what you are talking about I'm afraid
NCsoft is primarily located in Korea, they had studios in Austin and Brighton but now they have merged their offices to one in Seatle USA. They are not pulling their EU support, but relocating those who want to be, firing some and hiring replacements. My guess if they could not afford the studio in Brighton period. It's a side effect of politics but is not directly related to it. O.o
For the person blaming NCsoft for trusting the Garriotts, that's kind of judgemental. You've never trusted someone that ended up being a huge parasite before? Happens a lot. Although NCsoft CEO was warned about them if I remember correctly.
Also ArenaNet is under the umbrella of NCsoft but they have their own studio in Bellevue, Washington and is therefore probably not affected.
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LoL. Funny you should say that. Democrats in the US right now are extreme socialists. Nazi's were extreme socialists. Don't tell the minorities though, that they just elected a nazi to be the head of their country.
As to the economics, you obviously have never had the class. The NASDAQ hinges on EU and Asian markets and visa versa round robin style. Asian market has been crashing over and over, so no help there. So an injured NASDAQ now has to suffer a bigger hit because EU contributions are removed. Funny part is, now several EU countries are failing too, because they decided to do this. Another major portion of NASDAQ is oil. America, one of the richest oil countries in the world, imports most of it's petroleum from Middle Eastern states. Arabs reduce production so they can increase the price per barrel, not because they are not capable of producing the amount that is needed. Why? Because America went into their area and cleaned out a sadistic mass murder and some extremist muslim groups who were making all Middle Easterners look bad. Yes some mistakes were made, i.e. Bush still insisting on Mass Destruction weapons when there was more than enough other reasons to do what needed to be done right there for everyone to see, but wth, we are human and mistakes can be made.
EU carebears want to penalize NA based companies for something they really have no hand in controlling. So they remove support in the form of contributions and financing. If they don't want to support NA companies, let them finance their own.
IMO, US should close the borders, become self sufficient again, which is something almost no other country in the world can do, and start shooting foreign invaders, aka illegal immigrants, who try to cross into our borders. They should also start deporting all these radicals who think Africa or Mexico or Cuba or whatever other country but America is the best. You live here, you should be proud to live here. I am fairly certain that, if they lived in whatever country they are toting about, while walking, standing, and/or burning the American flag, they would not have the liberty to do that. Some warlord or local criminal/extremist/terrorist group would probably have them enslaved or killed. But hey, that is just my opinion. I am a former military service member with a family history of military service dating back to the revolutionary war and am somewhat a stickler on American Pride.
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/signed for truth.
And there is so much misinformed bile and vitriol before this that maybe a lock and/or delete is called for
"The problem with the French is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur." -George W. Bush, discussing the decline of the French economy with British Prime Minister Tony Blair