Well after seeing that vid I can honestly say all the air is out of the Adventurine/Taso hype balloon for this gamer.
Im going to give Darkfall a wide pass for some time if this vid really represents a week out from launch.
Its not just the crap graphics or the crap landscapes or the lack of any mobs/npcs. Its the benny hill slap fights where the only skills you need is higher stamina than the other guy and a willingness to chase and bitch slap the other guy for 15mins to wear them down.
Anybody who sees this vid and still buys into darkfall deserves to get ripped off. I was going to give this a game a try even if it completed the trifecta of fail (aoc/ war/ darkfall). But after seeing this vid I can honestly say I would go back and play aoc or war again before giving darkfall any of my cash.
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So let me take a stab at this. In order to have 10+ players pvping you need to set graphics to low?
What happened to scalable graphics and that so called "innovative engine".
So graphics isn't everything, of course not but it makes it a hell of a lot more prettier to look at.
You can sprinkle sparkles on your shit but in the end it's still a piece of shit.
With the amount of beta leaks heading on youtube Darkfall looks depressing. I don't know about you but resting for 6mins after you are out of stamina and you do run out fast is pathetic and not fun, might as well play a sitting/standing simulator same deal.
That's just one of the problems that breaks the Darkfall code of "fun" and "no grind"
If you honestly seen a beta leak video, how can call even call it fun pvp, all I seen was people run around in circles using the landscape to mess up the aim of the other player. Not to mention once you are out of stamina it's like you are all of a sudden in a "Scream" movie and need to run for your life because you can't do absolutely nothing.
It's not hardcore, it's stupid mechanics which even the most hardcore fanboi will find out and bitch about once they dive in game.
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Holy moly... I'm so disapointed I had faith... I wanted this game to be teh sh!t ... but it failed. Wow this looks so... boring and blend and... where is the LIFE? There's not a single NPC in the forest... well there's no npc anywhere ... Graphic well.. duh, nothing to say there. Those who said it's almost AoC ... WTF? AoC is almost on par with Crysis. Anyways... this went from a "zomg darkfall" to a oh well another game down the drain.
No unlike games like wow that spaces the NPCs out evenly, in this game u need to look for them. They are in lair, villages, camps, graveyards, dungeons etc.
Ad that to the fact that most of them are turned off for beta.
-Darkstar
uh... stop comparing everything to wow.
There's no deer... squirrel, something? Life! Wildlife! I don't want goblins or dragon, I want to FEEL like I'm in a REAL world you know?
It's bland there's nothing there... bleh
Oh and... the stupid arguments "it's not turned on" WTF man it's 7 freaking days from release IT HAS TO BR TURNED ON.
So does anyone mind telling me what is so wrong with the graphics? First off, did the people who complained about the graphics watch it in high-quality? Because I dont see anything wrong with them. They look fine, sure its not like AoC's graphics, but they are perfectly fine. And how are some of you saying the graphics look like EQ1 when they look nothing like them, seems like the people who come in here trying to bash the graphics have no real interest in the game and only came in here in the first place because they saw Darkfall in the title thread.
To the person saying that WAR's and WoW"s graphics look a lot better than this, you are just ignorant. It looks the same compared to WAR's graphics, and comparing it to WoW's graphics is just stupidity on your part. Seriously, what will you guys do when you dont have Darkfall to bash anymore? Are you guys going to go to the Mortal forums and complain about every little tiny detail you see and dislike, then go and complan about it till the game comes out? Come on, there is no logical debates about this game (sure there was a couple good posts, that was only because the trolls haters had nothing intelligent to say) only people coming in here saying "omg the graphics look like EQ1", "WoW has 10x better graphics than this", "the combat animations suck", "its just a clickfest for combat".
These forums are just becoming more and more childish every day. No one has anything discuss about this game because all they do is put 1 or 2 sentences in a reply to a post and say the graphics suck or the gameplay sucks or the world is incomplete or Tasos lied to us or my finger got stuck up my ass.
Im done wtih my little rant now. So good day to you all.
not even touching on the graphics, all he did was either 1. run after someone or 2. run away form someone for 95% of the time, and thats AFTER he cut out all the really boring parts? the other 5% was running in your typical wow pvp circle missing people or shooting a blue ball at a group of people hoping whoever you want to kill moves into it by accident.
whoever said earlier in this thread 'great to finally see a game with great gameplay' please explain this to me? im not trying to troll the game, im genuinely curious what in this video is 'great gameplay'.
wonderful shadows - maybe too good and distinct - not so great over water though
pretty world that needs some major weathering - never seen so many planes and angles
world appears completely lifeless
so, absolutely no collision detection between characters at all?
zero? wickedly sad
again - i have seen much better graphics in other vids (lets not talk animations though - ewwww) so to those that keep harping on gameplay over graphics calm it down - the graphics in this game are fine - yes we know that good gameplay is required before graphics but probably the largest part of the PC industry is geared toward making it possible for our boxes to produce better and better graphics, so there - GRAPHICS ARE IMPORTANT - otherwise we would all still be playing zork
the graphics are suitable in this case. They work, they function.
Well, extend that to graphics, sounds and animations. They might function but do they immerse?
I think they keep a whole lot of people who vallue those things away from this game and that is an entirely different aspect than the FFA and sandbox goodness. People might love those just as much as you and I do, but they might still get thrown back by poor visuals. In that regard I do think DF performed below average, sadly. The world is pretty nicely done, it seems. It are the player character design and animations which are the rotten part of the apple. Of course .. luckily they can be updated, but it looks like one hell of a job.
No offense intended here. I never argue personal tastes, that just wouldn't be right. And... I'm not judging the graphic quality especially on you-tube. But... After watching this video, I must say. THIS is what you fanbois have been browbeating us doubters about? THIS? THIS bunny hopping, poorly animated, jumping all over the battlefield, chasing everyone else who's running AND constantly JUMPING all over, mouse clicking battle-fest? Is this it? THIS is what you've been dreaming about. THIS? This is what some of you fanbois have been beating over everyone's head for as long as I can remember? This is the greatest MMO of all time? This is the combat MMO you've been drooling over? Maybe I'm missing a great deal here I don't know about. But.... This running, chasing, jumping, bunny-hopping and click... click... click... combat does NOT look promising to me. To each his own I guess. Some people actually eat and like blood sausage.
The people here had one melee attack, used only one agressive spell, and one or two beneficial ones.
The game has MANY more, but they arent skilled enough to use them.
As for the running, yeah this is an intense game there will be lots of movement, perhaps not quite as much as this, since ppl are still getting used to the game, but that is Darkfall.
If u dont like it u dont have to play it.
-Darkstar
This is what i do not get. Why would the devs approve this video to be official beta footage and represent the game.(it has not been banned from these forums so i will look at it as official).
If all these chars are using little to no skills because they are newb chars. why not allow darn beta footage that has chars in their mid skillset to DO JUSTICE TO THE GAME. It seems like a very poor choice and it is definantly giving the wrong prespective of the game.
That aside i wanna aim at the real issue. the FACT that the people who made this video used Guard tower tactics. If this was to represent beta footage of the game to wow those who anticipate it. why allow to use the karma exploit to their advantage. let them get grey, run to the towers then melt them.
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Well after seeing that vid I can honestly say all the air is out of the Adventurine/Taso hype balloon for this gamer. Im going to give Darkfall a wide pass for some time if this vid really represents a week out from launch. Its not just the crap graphics or the crap landscapes or the lack of any mobs/npcs. Its the benny hill slap fights where the only skills you need is higher stamina than the other guy and a willingness to chase and bitch slap the other guy for 15mins to wear them down. Anybody who sees this vid and still buys into darkfall deserves to get ripped off. I was going to give this a game a try even if it completed the trifecta of fail (aoc/ war/ darkfall). But after seeing this vid I can honestly say I would go back and play aoc or war again before giving darkfall any of my cash.
Completely agreed. I was saying this for a while, the game is subpar at best. Don't get me wrong, the concept is great but the actual execution leaves much to be desired.
Seriously its not even the fact that the graphics were shit but the gameplay looked like shit. I hope for the sake of the people who waste their money on this game that you can at least run it in windowed mode so you can look at porn while the combat takes place.
Excuse me, but what exactly made this video the "first OFFICIAL Darkfall BETA video"? Because if that's really the case, if this is what Aventurine OFFICIALLY is showing us, it's pathetic.
Pa-the-tic.
I assume the OP called it OFFICIAL because it was the best out of any beta videos so far, yet he claims the the graphics are on the lowest settings (LOL). That's just delusional right there.
I know the game is better than this (hint hint, nudge nudge) but this showing was very sad and cast a very bad light on the game. OP, you should've never put this up. Thanks alot.
I really hate to say it, but Darkfall makes an asian "buy n twist" (buy the client change the name) MMO look like a shooting star and they do little to no work on it period. Quite sad to see 8+ yrs of development used so poorly.
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If they gave permission for this video to be released, this close to launch, then they are even worse at marketing than I first thought. I mean seriously, who in the world just looked at that and said, "this is a game I want to play". I'm not talking about you die-hards, they could put a video of Pong up there and you guys would say, "look at the awesome back and forth gameplay" / "look at the intense PVP struggle".
Everything about that video looks bad. From the graphics (even lo-res, my god they are bad), to the horrible animations (I love the "swimming" after he lands in the water), to the affects of the spells (beach ball war?). You guys can't be serious about liking this video.
Let's hope for AVs sake that they did NOT give permission for this vid and this is some kind of joke.
If they gave permission for this video to be released, this close to launch, then they are even worse at marketing than I first thought. I mean seriously, who in the world just looked at that and said, "this is a game I want to play". I'm not talking about you die-hards, they could put a video of Pong up there and you guys would say, "look at the awesome back and forth gameplay" / "look at the intense PVP struggle".
Everything about that video looks bad. From the graphics (even lo-res, my god they are bad), to the horrible animations (I love the "swimming" after he lands in the water), to the affects of the spells (beach ball war?). You guys can't be serious about liking this video.
Let's hope for AVs sake that they did NOT give permission for this vid and this is some kind of joke.
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There is one major concern in this movie for me... the flow of combat.
This is akin to a FPS knife fight. Same tactics involved. If this game has any chance of longevity it will have to make combat more tactical. Right now I don't see how anyone could argue that tactics are involved in this kind of PvP.
CCs (short duration only) and removing sprinting from combat would go a long ways to making this game more skill based. Right now it is not skill, it is twitch. If I wanted twitch there are any number of better FPS games out there.
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Wear your armor for show but if you get out numbered then run back to the bank and then return to pvp in the buff.
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And after 8years..Dissapoint FTW
. That video made my eyes bleed.
to all the people saying the graphics sucks....
I´ve seen ALOT of darkfall videos, leaks and so on, and yes, this is certainly the most ugly video.
BECAUSE: the graphics are obviously tuned down to a minimum in order to make the guys pc run
smoothly while using a program like fraps or whatever to record the gameplay..the graphics does look alot better than that when not turned down..
to the OP: calling this video the OFFICIAL video wasnt wise. since all the people out there who are
to lazy or otherwise just dont do their own "research" will think this is how DF looks, and be sorely dissapointed.
Well after seeing that vid I can honestly say all the air is out of the Adventurine/Taso hype balloon for this gamer.
Im going to give Darkfall a wide pass for some time if this vid really represents a week out from launch.
Its not just the crap graphics or the crap landscapes or the lack of any mobs/npcs. Its the benny hill slap fights where the only skills you need is higher stamina than the other guy and a willingness to chase and bitch slap the other guy for 15mins to wear them down.
Anybody who sees this vid and still buys into darkfall deserves to get ripped off. I was going to give this a game a try even if it completed the trifecta of fail (aoc/ war/ darkfall). But after seeing this vid I can honestly say I would go back and play aoc or war again before giving darkfall any of my cash.
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Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
So let me take a stab at this. In order to have 10+ players pvping you need to set graphics to low?
What happened to scalable graphics and that so called "innovative engine".
So graphics isn't everything, of course not but it makes it a hell of a lot more prettier to look at.
You can sprinkle sparkles on your shit but in the end it's still a piece of shit.
With the amount of beta leaks heading on youtube Darkfall looks depressing. I don't know about you but resting for 6mins after you are out of stamina and you do run out fast is pathetic and not fun, might as well play a sitting/standing simulator same deal.
That's just one of the problems that breaks the Darkfall code of "fun" and "no grind"
If you honestly seen a beta leak video, how can call even call it fun pvp, all I seen was people run around in circles using the landscape to mess up the aim of the other player. Not to mention once you are out of stamina it's like you are all of a sudden in a "Scream" movie and need to run for your life because you can't do absolutely nothing.
It's not hardcore, it's stupid mechanics which even the most hardcore fanboi will find out and bitch about once they dive in game.
No unlike games like wow that spaces the NPCs out evenly, in this game u need to look for them. They are in lair, villages, camps, graveyards, dungeons etc.
Ad that to the fact that most of them are turned off for beta.
-Darkstar
uh... stop comparing everything to wow.
There's no deer... squirrel, something? Life! Wildlife! I don't want goblins or dragon, I want to FEEL like I'm in a REAL world you know?
It's bland there's nothing there... bleh
Oh and... the stupid arguments "it's not turned on" WTF man it's 7 freaking days from release IT HAS TO BR TURNED ON.
Like... NOW.
it's gonna fail so bad.
So does anyone mind telling me what is so wrong with the graphics? First off, did the people who complained about the graphics watch it in high-quality? Because I dont see anything wrong with them. They look fine, sure its not like AoC's graphics, but they are perfectly fine. And how are some of you saying the graphics look like EQ1 when they look nothing like them, seems like the people who come in here trying to bash the graphics have no real interest in the game and only came in here in the first place because they saw Darkfall in the title thread.
To the person saying that WAR's and WoW"s graphics look a lot better than this, you are just ignorant. It looks the same compared to WAR's graphics, and comparing it to WoW's graphics is just stupidity on your part. Seriously, what will you guys do when you dont have Darkfall to bash anymore? Are you guys going to go to the Mortal forums and complain about every little tiny detail you see and dislike, then go and complan about it till the game comes out? Come on, there is no logical debates about this game (sure there was a couple good posts, that was only because the trolls haters had nothing intelligent to say) only people coming in here saying "omg the graphics look like EQ1", "WoW has 10x better graphics than this", "the combat animations suck", "its just a clickfest for combat".
These forums are just becoming more and more childish every day. No one has anything discuss about this game because all they do is put 1 or 2 sentences in a reply to a post and say the graphics suck or the gameplay sucks or the world is incomplete or Tasos lied to us or my finger got stuck up my ass.
Im done wtih my little rant now. So good day to you all.
not even touching on the graphics, all he did was either 1. run after someone or 2. run away form someone for 95% of the time, and thats AFTER he cut out all the really boring parts? the other 5% was running in your typical wow pvp circle missing people or shooting a blue ball at a group of people hoping whoever you want to kill moves into it by accident.
whoever said earlier in this thread 'great to finally see a game with great gameplay' please explain this to me? im not trying to troll the game, im genuinely curious what in this video is 'great gameplay'.
based on this video and others (better)
love the finishing strike - killer (literally)
wonderful shadows - maybe too good and distinct - not so great over water though
pretty world that needs some major weathering - never seen so many planes and angles
world appears completely lifeless
so, absolutely no collision detection between characters at all?
zero? wickedly sad
again - i have seen much better graphics in other vids (lets not talk animations though - ewwww) so to those that keep harping on gameplay over graphics calm it down - the graphics in this game are fine - yes we know that good gameplay is required before graphics but probably the largest part of the PC industry is geared toward making it possible for our boxes to produce better and better graphics, so there - GRAPHICS ARE IMPORTANT - otherwise we would all still be playing zork
Well, extend that to graphics, sounds and animations. They might function but do they immerse?
I think they keep a whole lot of people who vallue those things away from this game and that is an entirely different aspect than the FFA and sandbox goodness. People might love those just as much as you and I do, but they might still get thrown back by poor visuals. In that regard I do think DF performed below average, sadly. The world is pretty nicely done, it seems. It are the player character design and animations which are the rotten part of the apple. Of course .. luckily they can be updated, but it looks like one hell of a job.
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The people here had one melee attack, used only one agressive spell, and one or two beneficial ones.
The game has MANY more, but they arent skilled enough to use them.
As for the running, yeah this is an intense game there will be lots of movement, perhaps not quite as much as this, since ppl are still getting used to the game, but that is Darkfall.
If u dont like it u dont have to play it.
-Darkstar
This is what i do not get. Why would the devs approve this video to be official beta footage and represent the game.(it has not been banned from these forums so i will look at it as official).
If all these chars are using little to no skills because they are newb chars. why not allow darn beta footage that has chars in their mid skillset to DO JUSTICE TO THE GAME. It seems like a very poor choice and it is definantly giving the wrong prespective of the game.
That aside i wanna aim at the real issue. the FACT that the people who made this video used Guard tower tactics. If this was to represent beta footage of the game to wow those who anticipate it. why allow to use the karma exploit to their advantage. let them get grey, run to the towers then melt them.
Watching Fanbois drop their soap in a prison full of desperate men.
Completely agreed. I was saying this for a while, the game is subpar at best. Don't get me wrong, the concept is great but the actual execution leaves much to be desired.
lol.....
wait.....
this was serious?
Seriously its not even the fact that the graphics were shit but the gameplay looked like shit. I hope for the sake of the people who waste their money on this game that you can at least run it in windowed mode so you can look at porn while the combat takes place.
that group needed to import my bard from DAOC we'd have caught them in no time with speed 5 and mez'd the lot of them.
Excuse me, but what exactly made this video the "first OFFICIAL Darkfall BETA video"? Because if that's really the case, if this is what Aventurine OFFICIALLY is showing us, it's pathetic.
Pa-the-tic.
I assume the OP called it OFFICIAL because it was the best out of any beta videos so far, yet he claims the the graphics are on the lowest settings (LOL). That's just delusional right there.
I know the game is better than this (hint hint, nudge nudge) but this showing was very sad and cast a very bad light on the game. OP, you should've never put this up. Thanks alot.
this is the future of mmos? i've seen better graphics on ps1 games.....that has to have been the most pathetic looking beta I've ever seen eeks
so say we all
I really hate to say it, but Darkfall makes an asian "buy n twist" (buy the client change the name) MMO look like a shooting star and they do little to no work on it period. Quite sad to see 8+ yrs of development used so poorly.
If they gave permission for this video to be released, this close to launch, then they are even worse at marketing than I first thought. I mean seriously, who in the world just looked at that and said, "this is a game I want to play". I'm not talking about you die-hards, they could put a video of Pong up there and you guys would say, "look at the awesome back and forth gameplay" / "look at the intense PVP struggle".
Everything about that video looks bad. From the graphics (even lo-res, my god they are bad), to the horrible animations (I love the "swimming" after he lands in the water), to the affects of the spells (beach ball war?). You guys can't be serious about liking this video.
Let's hope for AVs sake that they did NOT give permission for this vid and this is some kind of joke.
According to the mod who posted this at the official DF forums, Aventurine allowed a guild to film and release this video:
forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
This is real and was cleared by AV. Make of that what you will.
Oh but they did
forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
EDIT:blast you Lidane you beat me to the minute
Iiii-iiiiiit's.... me!!! *Hooray*
hehe graphics sure looks goofy!
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I could care less about graphics.
There is one major concern in this movie for me... the flow of combat.
This is akin to a FPS knife fight. Same tactics involved. If this game has any chance of longevity it will have to make combat more tactical. Right now I don't see how anyone could argue that tactics are involved in this kind of PvP.
CCs (short duration only) and removing sprinting from combat would go a long ways to making this game more skill based. Right now it is not skill, it is twitch. If I wanted twitch there are any number of better FPS games out there.
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
i am so glad they used the 8 years and XXX million bucks wisely!!!!!
ok...i'll stop now....it's too easy now.....
Wear your armor for show but if you get out numbered then run back to the bank and then return to pvp in the buff.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...