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  • AmazingAveryAmazingAvery Age of Conan AdvocateMember UncommonPosts: 7,188
    Originally posted by pencilrick


     
    I would also advise you to be wary of fanbois of any waning game who will sometimes say "my servers is busy" or "there are always lots of folks around."  I think many of those folks are just not being honest.



     

    Hey mate let me ask you, does that go both ways? Is it ok to say those things or is it ok to say the extreme opposite to public contrary such as we find with all the other OP's postings, many that have been locked or deleted. Judging from all of that post history and apparant premise of creating an account here for the particular reason that stands out a mile, I suspect the OP doesn't play at all, I have a hard time believeing that.

    I don't have a hard time with people not experiecing many players around at some times of the day. I feel the title is misleading, we know it is one specific server the OP talks about (if at all), therefore knowlege is limited to just that one server and not for the whole game across 25+ servers.

    I find it hard to take the 'truth' of the OP as it has been proven to be wrong so many times in such a short space of time, thats just me though.

    Please remember it goes both ways.



  • RobsolfRobsolf Member RarePosts: 4,607
    Originally posted by popinjay


     



    Overall, the PvE content is far superior in Conan than the PvE content in games like WAR. So level your character up and you'll find you will have more problems with random tells asking you to heal than anything else.



    **EDIT: Except for FFXI and maybe EVE.

     

    Largely due to the superior combat.

    For that, WoW, Lotro, War, and all those just can't compare.  With the exception of maybe Eve, there just aren't as many options in other MMO's for taking down an opponent.

    Edit for getting back on topic:  Set, at least in Stygia, is pretty dead, but Tortage seems to be busy.  I wouldn't consider the game "dying" by what I saw.

  • 3L1TE3L1TE Member Posts: 167

    Game was dead when the server merge happened

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  • RobsolfRobsolf Member RarePosts: 4,607
    Originally posted by MENGKESHI


    I tried WOW for the 2nd time recently - on a server that was listed as "full". Played up to about late teen lvl and bumped into less than 10 players.  No game has every area full at all hours of the day.

     

    In the 3 months that I played WoW a few years ago, only the dwarven city was really packed with anybody.  Everywhere else there were people here and there, but nothing that would indicate 6+ million subs(at the time).

    If I were to go by PERCIEVED population in an MMO, I'd say that CoX was the most popular.  People seem all over the place in there.  But, we know better.

  • courtsdadcourtsdad Member Posts: 326
    Originally posted by ChristianBal

    Originally posted by courtsdad

    Originally posted by openedge1



    Thank you. This is probably the funniest thing I will read today.

    "No population in off peak hours...OH NOES!!!"

    Uh, that is why it is called OFF-PEAK!

    I'm afraid I hav eto agree. Thats kind of like saying your computer doesnt work very well when its unplugged.

     

    Um.. when you unplug a computer, you can't do ANYTHING with it.

    Are you saying an MMO should function only couple of hours a day, during peak hours?

    Using that logic they should just shut down the servers during off-peak, because there are almost no players.

    Anyone who doesn't believe me and call me a troll, go log into Aquilonia during off-peak and you will see what I mean.



     

    Well me being an obvious non fanboy I guess i need to make it clearer.

    If you are going to bitch and try to prove that the game is dying find a better example than the servers not being busy during a time when servers on any game will not be busy.

    Or continue to look like the polar opposite of the viral marketers. Your choice.

  • ChristianBalChristianBal Member Posts: 98
    Originally posted by courtsdad

    Originally posted by ChristianBal


    Um.. when you unplug a computer, you can't do ANYTHING with it.
    Are you saying an MMO should function only couple of hours a day, during peak hours?
    Using that logic they should just shut down the servers during off-peak, because there are almost no players.
    Anyone who doesn't believe me and call me a troll, go log into Aquilonia during off-peak and you will see what I mean.

    Well me being an obvious non fanboy I guess i need to make it clearer.

    If you are going to bitch and try to prove that the game is dying find a better example than the servers not being busy during a time when servers on any game will not be busy.

    Or continue to look like the polar opposite of the viral marketers. Your choice.

     

    It's really difficult to talk sense to you people here. Did you even read my post?

    Do me a favor and go play some popular MMO during off-peak hours, then go play AoC on Aquilonia and you will understand what I mean.

    You tried to be smart and funny and failed in both.

    Dumb people are dumb. Fanbois or not.

  • DaveTTDaveTT Member Posts: 405
    Originally posted by ChristianBal

    Originally posted by courtsdad

    Originally posted by ChristianBal


    Um.. when you unplug a computer, you can't do ANYTHING with it.
    Are you saying an MMO should function only couple of hours a day, during peak hours?
    Using that logic they should just shut down the servers during off-peak, because there are almost no players.
    Anyone who doesn't believe me and call me a troll, go log into Aquilonia during off-peak and you will see what I mean.

    Well me being an obvious non fanboy I guess i need to make it clearer.

    If you are going to bitch and try to prove that the game is dying find a better example than the servers not being busy during a time when servers on any game will not be busy.

    Or continue to look like the polar opposite of the viral marketers. Your choice.

     

    It's really difficult to talk sense to you people here. Did you even read my post?

    Do me a favor and go play some popular MMO during off-peak hours, then go play AoC on Aquilonia and you will understand what I mean.

    You tried to be smart and funny and failed in both.

    Dumb people are dumb. Fanbois or not.



     

    A example for you.

    I remember when i was playing WOW, around 3-4 months after launch. I was running around in Tanaris with my rouge, i saw maybe 5-10 people in the hole zone and i was grinding / questing there for over 1.5-2hours.

    After that i moved to Un'Goro Crater and i was questing there for 1-2 hours, same there saw maybe max 5-10 people.

    I remember that sometimes the zones were like ghost towns, i only saw 1-10 people in 1-2hours.

    So did that mean that the game was dying ? I think not.

    ( I played on Burning Legion, a high pop server. )

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  • ChristianBalChristianBal Member Posts: 98
    Originally posted by DaveTT




    A example for you.
    I remember when i was playing WOW, around 3-4 months after launch. I was running around in Tanaris with my rouge, i saw maybe 5-10 people in the hole zone and i was grinding / questing there for over 1.5-2hours.
    After that i moved to Un'Goro Crater and i was questing there for 1-2 hours, same there saw maybe max 5-10 people.
    I remember that sometimes the zones were like ghost towns, i only saw 1-10 people in 1-2hours.
    So did that mean that the game was dying ? I think not.
    ( I played on Burning Legion, a high pop server. )

     

    I'm just saying what happened to me. Go to Aquilonia and see for yourself.

    Oh and can please have one thread without WoW talk?

  • finaticdfinaticd Member Posts: 843
    Originally posted by popinjay


     
     
     




    Overall, the PvE content is far superior in Conan than the PvE content in games like WAR. So level your character up and you'll find you will have more problems with random tells asking you to heal than anything else.


    **EDIT: Except for FFXI and maybe EVE.

     

    Not true, PQs and the end game instances were higher quality PvE content in War than anything AoC has to offer.

     

    PQs were mini raids and there were hundreds of them.....Oh yeah War had the single player quests also.

     

    **************

     

    I agree with the OP, the US server I played on seemed pretty empty, considering everyone is congregated into a few servers.

    Funcom has reviewed all of its assets relevant for
    impairment testing. This process has led to
    recognition of an impairment loss of around
    3,1 MUSD for Age of Conan due to a decrease in
    numbers of subscribers for the game. Funcom Q4 10 report.
    http://forums.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=2926123&postcount=7 500 mains/alts on Tyranny in past 30 days - instead of merge servers let's open a new PvP server, again! http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=106427

  • CarnajinCarnajin Member UncommonPosts: 6

    Just because there aren't alot of people on X server on off-peak times doesn't mean the game is dead or dying. Yes the bigger name games will have more people on off-peak times because of 2 reasons.

    1. They have obviously been out alot longer and have more subs.

    2. The game is coming off a pretty bad launch were they lost a very high percentage of their subs after the first month or so, and are in the process of fixing alot of bugs.

    It sounds like you just want a friend to play with or have the feeling you arent alone in the zone doing whatever it is your doing. I dont play the game no more because I couldnt stand playing and paying for a game that was rushed out the door to soon in the broken state it was in. (I wont go into detail, dont want the thread to go off-topic)

    The game is doing fine as long as you play during peak hours since the sub base is probably alot lower then most mainstream mmo's. Last I heard it was around 200k ish subs so you have to take that into account.

    I would reroll on another server thats more populated or just suck it up and continue doing what your doing.. Or just play during peak hours if your time permits it. Its a fun game when it wants to be, enjoy it.

  • popinjaypopinjay Member Posts: 6,539


    Originally posted by finaticd
    Originally posted by popinjay  
     
     
    Overall, the PvE content is far superior in Conan than the PvE content in games like WAR. So level your character up and you'll find you will have more problems with random tells asking you to heal than anything else.**EDIT: Except for FFXI and maybe EVE.
     
    Not true, PQs and the end game instances were higher quality PvE content in War than anything AoC has to offer.
     
    PQs were mini raids and there were hundreds of them.....Oh yeah War had the single player quests also.
     
    **************
     
    I agree with the OP, the US server I played on seemed pretty empty, considering everyone is congregated into a few servers.

    This is one of those "I like vanilla, I like chocolate" arguments.


    I've played FFXI, EQ2, and LOTRO among others. I can say based on all those PvE based quest games, AoC has quests that are written as well as any of them and there are plenty of them. The storylines are much more engrossing and with the cutscenes and sometimes verbal acting, you feel a part of the actual story than anything you'd find in Warhammer.


    In WAR, every quest feels the same. Go kill 50 trolls. Go kill 50 spiders. The NPCs are cardboards; they don't react or do anything. They might as well be a printed list of directions on poles you run up and read for as exciting and fun they are.


    PQs are fun for the first tier, then they slack off incredibly. What's so fun about "Kill 50-100 easy mobs. Then kill 20 harder mobs. Then kill one big boss." Passing thru PQs zones in WAR was like passing through one big giant broken record where the needle wouldn't move and the record kept skipping. Yeah, fun for a month but boring after that.


    Hundreds of PQs in Warhammer??? Are you sure?

  • finaticdfinaticd Member Posts: 843
    Originally posted by popinjay


     

    Originally posted by finaticd


    Originally posted by popinjay
     
     

     

     



    Overall, the PvE content is far superior in Conan than the PvE content in games like WAR. So level your character up and you'll find you will have more problems with random tells asking you to heal than anything else.

    **EDIT: Except for FFXI and maybe EVE.





     

    Not true, PQs and the end game instances were higher quality PvE content in War than anything AoC has to offer.

     

    PQs were mini raids and there were hundreds of them.....Oh yeah War had the single player quests also.

     

    **************

     

    I agree with the OP, the US server I played on seemed pretty empty, considering everyone is congregated into a few servers.

     

     

    This is one of those "I like vanilla, I like chocolate" arguments.



    I've played FFXI, EQ2, and LOTRO among others. I can say based on all those PvE based quest games, AoC has quests that are written as well as any of them and there are plenty of them. The storylines are much more engrossing and with the cutscenes and sometimes verbal acting, you feel a part of the actual story than anything you'd find in Warhammer.



    In WAR, every quest feels the same. Go kill 50 trolls. Go kill 50 spiders. The NPCs are cardboards; they don't react or do anything. They might as well be a printed list of directions on poles you run up and read for as exciting and fun they are.



    PQs are fun for the first tier, then they slack off incredibly. What's so fun about "Kill 50-100 easy mobs. Then kill 20 harder mobs. Then kill one big boss." Passing thru PQs zones in WAR was like passing through one big giant broken record where the needle wouldn't move and the record kept skipping. Yeah, fun for a month but boring after that.



    Hundreds of PQs in Warhammer??? Are you sure?

     

    The first few chapters have fewer but it's made up in the later instances: 22 chapters x 3 per chapter (2 yellows and one red)  x 3 factions per realm x 2 realms = 396ish PQs.

    War has the same quality quests, but there are probably 4-6 times as many in warhammer....TBO I'm not a quest person...I would prefer doing group content or god forbid grinding, but I do quest and they seem the same everywhere....though Warcraft's seemed the best so far......the bugged out hunter epic quest was awesome, though the EQ 1's monk epic quest was awesome too.

    Actually, PQs get more challenging later on and were well scripted, that is what I liked about it.....heck the instances were challenging too...though lockouts were lame, untill we got the gear for it in the instance.

    http://realmwar.warhammeronline.com/realmwar/CharacterInfo.war?id=3214&server=173

    Of all games I played War had the best leveling systems and was the only leveling I enjoyed (endgame person), but it lacked balance.....everyone played a couple of classes and there were to few order so the PvP was meh...everyone ran the same scenario...  One thing I could see spliting up AoC and War is, AoC players don't seem to mind soloing.......in Warhammer you NEED a tight group of 5 other people to do anything, aside from those silly quests.

    When compared to other games AoC still has a dire lack of content, especially for leveling.

     

    Funcom has reviewed all of its assets relevant for
    impairment testing. This process has led to
    recognition of an impairment loss of around
    3,1 MUSD for Age of Conan due to a decrease in
    numbers of subscribers for the game. Funcom Q4 10 report.
    http://forums.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=2926123&postcount=7 500 mains/alts on Tyranny in past 30 days - instead of merge servers let's open a new PvP server, again! http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=106427

  • ChristianBalChristianBal Member Posts: 98
    Originally posted by Carnajin



    It sounds like you just want a friend to play with or have the feeling you arent alone in the zone doing whatever it is your doing. I dont play the game no more because I couldnt stand playing and paying for a game that was rushed out the door to soon in the broken state it was in. (I wont go into detail, dont want the thread to go off-topic)

     

    Yes I know it would be better to play with a friend. I played with a couple of friends at launch but they all quit and went to different games and there is no way I can get them back to AoC (if they have to pay). I'm still here because I have free subscription.

    This just pisses me off because I though I was playing an MMO, like in "Massive Multiplayer", where you can team up with people from all over the world. Not some "Play With Your Real Life Friend Or Play Alone" -type of game.

  • ChristianBalChristianBal Member Posts: 98
    Originally posted by AmazingAvery



    I don't have a hard time with people not experiecing many players around at some times of the day. I feel the title is misleading, we know it is one specific server the OP talks about (if at all), therefore knowlege is limited to just that one server and not for the whole game across 25+ servers.

     

    I never said all the servers are empty. Like you said, I am talking about one EU server, Aquilonia.

    However Aquilonia is supposed to be the 2nd most popular EU server which I find really strange since it seems like medium population server during peak hours and extremely low during off-peak.

    They say Fury is the most popular EU server but I hear it's infested with immature kids.

  • EudaimonEudaimon Member UncommonPosts: 116
    Originally posted by ChristianBal

    Originally posted by AmazingAvery



    I don't have a hard time with people not experiecing many players around at some times of the day. I feel the title is misleading, we know it is one specific server the OP talks about (if at all), therefore knowlege is limited to just that one server and not for the whole game across 25+ servers.

     

    I never said all the servers are empty. Like you said, I am talking about one EU server, Aquilonia.

    However Aquilonia is supposed to be the 2nd most popular EU server which I find really strange since it seems like medium population server during peak hours and extremely low during off-peak.

    They say Fury is the most popular EU server but I hear it's infested with immature kids.

     

    I'm curious where you get the idea that Aquilonia is the 2nd most busy EU server.  I can't speak so much for the non-UK servers, but from what I've seen, Crom (PvE) is much busier than Aquilonia (RP-PvP).  Amongst the servers that I've looked at, I'd say that Fury (PvP) is probably the most busy, followed reasonably closely by Crom (PvE).  Some way behind would come Aquilonia (RP-PvP), and then trailing in the rear, Hyrkania (RP-PvE).  I have no idea about the population of the Fresh Start servers either.

    As for Fury, yeah......much of the behaviour in global chat there seemed pretty immature to me as well.

    I made the above estimates simply by creating (or already having) a character on each of the above servers and simply looking at things such as numbers of L70-80s online by class.  I also looked at auction house activity as another way of looking at the level of activity and found that this gave me similar results to the order posted above.

    Admittedly, my estimates for the order of relative population levels is rather finger-in-the-wind, but I hope it's reasonably accurate all the same.

  • ChristianBalChristianBal Member Posts: 98
    Originally posted by Eudaimon


     
    I'm curious where you get the idea that Aquilonia is the 2nd most busy EU server.  I can't speak so much for the non-UK servers, but from what I've seen, Crom (PvE) is much busier than Aquilonia (RP-PvP).  Amongst the servers that I've looked at, I'd say that Fury (PvP) is probably the most busy, followed reasonably closely by Crom (PvE).  Some way behind would come Aquilonia (RP-PvP), and then trailing in the rear, Hyrkania (RP-PvE).  I have no idea about the population of the Fresh Start servers either.
    As for Fury, yeah......much of the behaviour in global chat there seemed pretty immature to me as well.
    I made the above estimates simply by creating (or already having) a character on each of the above servers and simply looking at things such as numbers of L70-80s online by class.  I also looked at auction house activity as another way of looking at the level of activity and found that this gave me similar results to the order posted above.
    Admittedly, my estimates for the order of relative population levels is rather finger-in-the-wind, but I hope it's reasonably accurate all the same.

     

    Yes, you are 100% correct. I forgot about the PVE servers. Crom is 2nd and Aquilonia is 3rd.

    Thanks for correcting me.

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