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I got RDM up to 19 and finished the subjob quest along the way. So I went back to Windurst and played around with some of the other jobs. BLM was fun, sure kills things a heck of a lot faster than RDM.
Then I tried MNK. My God, why didn't I see this before? It's almost scary how much fun that job is. Too bad RDM is basically a useless subjob from what I can tell for a MNK so I may have wasted a lot of time with it, but at least I know where to go to get MNK up there.
My question for you fine folks would be then since I really can't stand playing a WAR, will I be gimping myself if I use THF as a subjob?
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THF plain out won't be useful as a sub for MNK until 60 when you have sneak attack and trick attack. It is if any of MNKs WS stack with SATA. I have never tried so I don't know. WAR is -- unfortunatly -- your only real option here for a while. You can take MNK/WAR to 75 easy and never have to worry about any other job. Once you hit 30 you come across DRG (Attack Bonus/Accuracy Bonus/Jump) and DNC (Samba/Waltz/Steps) which give you a little more felxability in sub choices. WHM (+MND) and NIN (Utsusemi) are situational choices for end game. Sorry to say MNK/WAR is your best bet for now.
You get poor value overall from subbing THF as a MNK. Better subs would likely include WAR or SAM.
With MNK, you have one or two abilities you can use efficiently with SA. That is howling fist, and dragon kick. I use the term "efficiently" loosely, as the overall DPS gain from having a different subjob and using multi-hitter WSes is a lot higher.
I liked MNK, I played one to about 56, and used my friend's 75 MNK a few times. He was unhappy with the ultimate fate of the class at end-game. Things have changed, I'm sure, but when we played, his job simply included boosting up a chi blast and firing it off every 3 minutes. That's it.
If job efficiency matters to you, then you'll probably want to level other subjobs for your MNK, just to have the flexibility. If you don't want to level that many subjobs, and would rather have /THF, then that's fine, also. It's not completely awful.
Depending on your server, you may be stuck waiting a while for parties, especially past a certain level. People love raging rush, penta-thrust, and SAMs in ToAU areas.
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Hi,
Thanks for the great responses! I was half expecting flames, so thanks for actually taking the time to write real reasons.
If you don't mind, I'd like to turn it around then...since MNK/THF is basically out, would THF/MNK make any sense? I know sometimes these things work that way, like how WHM/RDM wouldn't be great but RDM/WHM is pretty nice.
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THF/MNK is not the optimal sub, but you will be fine with it until level 30, it's not like /war gives much benefit before it anyway. Then you should level ninja, since that is the 'other' good sub for a thief. At one point or the other it'd be good if you got that warrior to 37, but it's not like it's required. /nin is fine for mostly anything.
Thief isn't too good sub nowadays though, so if you don't want to main it I wouldn't recommend leveling it first. If you're going to level Blue Mage /thf is pretty nice for that, not for much else I'm afraid.
Yeah for a dd class like monk , red mage is not a good choice, however it is a good choice for your mage classes until you get those up. Think of the red mage more of a debuffer than a dmg dealer who is capable of healing. Just like the other posts. War will be your best bet, you really dont have many options until you start unlocking new jobs and gain some lvls.
Oh and you never really waste time with the jobs you take. remember your spells and weapons skill up with use. so sooner or later all the skills you lvled up with redmage will help you with other classes like blm, whm, pld ect.
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As far as THF/MNK goes, it's good as an alternative to /WAR if you don't have any advanced jobs yet. Once you start unlocking advanced jobs at level 30, people will usually expect that you sub NIN.
Unfortunately, the only original classes that form good synergies are the caster classes. BLM/WHM, RDM/WHM, RDM/BLM, WHM/BLM, etc. Even then, leveling advanced jobs like SCH will increase your versatility.
So, to reiterate, you can take THF/MNK to 30 and even use hand-to-hand weapons. Most dagger skills before Viper Bite are absolute crap. At 30, you should be looking into completing the quest to obtain the NIN class. Hopefully you join a linkshell by then and they can lend you a hand.
Don't forget that you will unlock more jobs later on. No need to limit yourself to the original 6(?) choices. If you don't want to play a THF, WAR, or MNK to 75, that's fine. Look into other classes you might enjoy.
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I'm new, so don't take my words too far. Anyway, if you have an advanced job in your mind, mabe you can tough it out to 30 using a gimp and then start shining there? I might get yelled at for saying that, but, like I said, I'm new...
If you want an advanced job, it's not too much work to hit 30, then recruit some help for the quests
One thing you will want to do before this is look at which jobs would be a good sub for your planned main one, and use that as your stepping stone to 30 (you only need to get a sub for this to 15, which isn't too much of a chore)
Then when you unlock and start on your advanced job, you don't have to return to levelling the sub for it til you hit lvl 60 ^^
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Like said in other posts, level warrior. Some of this game is doing things you really dont wanna do to get to an end result that you need. Mine was leveling Ninja. I hated it. I sucked at it. It was torture to get to 37 but i needed to get it there. The whole time i was counting down to a 450k gil bill soon as i hit 37. I tried BCNM's a few times to no avail. I had trouble holding hate because i didn't know how to play the job after about level 20 but once i hit 37 i sort of had it down but i damn near cried when i finished it. I nearly warped out of the paarty the second i hit 37 just to get the hell off the job. Luckily the party disbanded soon after and i've not been back on it since nor will I ever probably.
My point to this long ramble is, go, level warrior to 37. You can level MNK and WAR side by side if you want because (unless i'm missing something) they pretty much use the same gear for the lower levels. When you get MNK to 18 forget it and sub it to warrior until it gets to 37. You are then free to Level monk with no breaks.
Warrior and White Mage are two of the best jobs to level in this game. WHM can sub to any mage job and WAR can sub to any DD job.
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