Its not exclusive to PC games anymore. Now that consoles can patch, they are starting to come out with buggy games too.
Xbox uses some version of DirectX I believe. Even arcade systems from Japan use some light version of windows, hah.
So the argument that consoles are more stable and less buggy is a bit less true. I remember that our megadrive (called a Genesis in the US ya?) never once bugged or gave an error, never had to patch and it worked every single time. I think those were the most stable gaming platforms every, oh and maybe the original gameboy hehe.
GFW is just a plot from Microsoft to move people from Windows to XBox 360, where can get more revenue.
Windows Gaming is about the only thing standing in the way of Linux becoming a mainstream OS next to Windows. I think MS does care if people play PC games or not. They make a profit on Xbox but it's nowhere near the profits they make from their Windows clients.
Why would MS help so many companies with DirectX problems and ship DX betas to game developers before anyone else and help them with PC games and their compatibility otherwise.
You might not know, but MS, ATI, AMD, INTEL, Nvidia, they all have teams working with game developers to assure compatibility, if MS wanted to kill PC gaming they could, there's just absolutely no logical reason why they would want to.
Microsoft wasnt going to abandon PC gaming, but truth be told they dont have anything to gain from it. Windows is still too safe, well known and well published for it to fear Linux even without games. I like linux too, dont get me wrong, but the OS is not backed by a large company like Microsoft, which is important in this day and age.
Teiman is correct. GFW was a trick to get PC gamers over to the 360 in which they are garanteed profit. Its sick really. Since they got involved in the console war, they have done what EA did in the past...aquire, drain, and dump. Remember games like Freelancer? Digital Anvil was scooped up by Microsoft, the founder was forced to leave, the franchises it was working on sold to other development groups and the employees merged into Microsofts own ranks. Digital Anvil was then destroyed. They literally are bullying the market, games being bullied or bribed into releasing for the xbox, only for it, or for it first. I do not think its pure coincidence that certain PS3 versions of the game were purposefully released in shoddy condition compared to the 360s. No surprise that Bethesda just admitted its now going xbox exclusive.
PC gaming is sadly being forced down a bit by microsofts tactics. All they care about is their console. We are seeing that some of the best PC games in terms of that old quality we were used to, are coming from Europe, which hasnt fallen victem to the Microsoft agenda. I dont hate microsoft, but i hate what they are doing to gaming in general. Along with EA, they have severly damaged the quality of gaming as a whole by eliminating and conquering unique independant development studios. Blizzard and Valve are a shining reminder of the type of development studios that used to exist.
OP, PC gaming isnt dead, but its changing. Consoles are a controlled market, more ways to exploit and milk the consumer can be found in them. PC gaming isnt lost, keep buying to show theres a market for it, and avoid consoles as much as possible. If you have to get a console, go PS3, Sony is the only company thats not using douchelevel business practices, they actually are the one company that has promoted the most inovation. PCs linked up with consoles as one big system, how can you not love that.
If a next-gen console was released with a decent hard drive, internet connectivity and a keyboard+mouse control interface, I would never use my PC for gaming ever again.
The combination of technologies would create (imo) the absolute perfect gaming platform.
Playing: EVE, Final Fantasy 13, Uncharted 2, Need for Speed: Shift
If a next-gen console was released with a decent hard drive, internet connectivity and a keyboard+mouse control interface, I would never use my PC for gaming ever again. The combination of technologies would create (imo) the absolute perfect gaming platform.
If a next-gen console was released with a decent hard drive, internet connectivity and a keyboard+mouse control interface, I would never use my PC for gaming ever again. The combination of technologies would create (imo) the absolute perfect gaming platform.
You should look into getting a PS3.
Got one. Can plug a USB keyboard/mouse into it but (virtually) no games support them.
Still gotta use the controller and I really, really hate the controller.
Blu-ray is nice though.
Playing: EVE, Final Fantasy 13, Uncharted 2, Need for Speed: Shift
I do not have a console; they can't even match a PC for graphics so why get one? For countless same template boring games?
I agree that MS do want to have their cake and eat it. Want to play games, buy an Xbox, want to do anything else buy a PC. The launch of the Xbox was two fingers at PC gaming and has just led to more dumbing down in games generally.
But the PC has sailed through console after console launch. It’s still going strong, I can’t see how the market will support so many consoles in the long term, which will benefit both the PC and gaming as a whole.
they have been saying pc gaming has been die-ing for years but has it really??
i just upgraded my pc and it might of only been on the cheap side in terms of pc's (i could of bought a ps3 and 360) it was well worth it in my opinion.
the best thing about pc gaming is that a game that is old can still be popular.(cod2 is 3rd on xfire, still got starcraft and cs 1.6 very popular)
on a console its just the next quick fix. and keybaord and mouse FTW
I get what the OP is saying. I've been a die hard fan of PC gaming for a very long time (since the C64s -- actually had an Atari 800, but there weren't any games for it that I remember). However, I recently got fed up with the buy now / fix later attitude that most PC game companies have and I went out and bought a Xbox 360. It freaking works. Everytime. No hassle. The online integration is top notch and I've yet to find a game that I don't like on it. The controller took some getting used to, but after that, it's all good. I even bought a XBox steering wheel controller for Burnout Paradise. It's amazing and fun and glitch free as far as I can tell. Good or bad, consoles are polished and are designed with one thing in mind -- games.
The only thing I use my PC for gaming-wise now is MMOs, and if things go right, I might just play those on the XBox in the near future.
OK, I was really there at the start of PC gaming, buying my first IBM XT Clone back in 1986. It had 4 color CGA graphics (320 x 160 or something like that), 640K ram and a 20 meg HD! (yeah, I was big pimpin)
Almost 1300.00 in 1986 dollars and a small fortune to a broke arse like myself.
Today for the same money I could build a desktop w/ monitor that could launch a space shuttle.
I went out and bought 5 games that day, and I never forget that one of them, Ultima IV would not work on my computer. I went through those character creation questions 10 times, only to have the game crash after they were completed.
I called Orgins Tech support, and they gave me a simple response. Their game had only been tested on true IBM PC XT's, using PCDOS, and they did not support clone computers using MS-DOS.
Fortunately, since this was a common occurance game stores back then would take the game back and refund your money. (something that doesn't happen anymore today)
Our copy protection was in the form of code wheels and books, where you had to look up a word so many pages/paragraphs, lines in them and crashing to the desktop or freezing was SOP.
We had no internet either (yeah, this was in a time before fire, using wooden computers) so if you needed a patch you had to call the vendor and they would mail you patch disks.
Over the years one things remained constant. The sheer variety of hardware builds on PC's always means that some portion of the user base will have trouble running and playing a game, and some small % will never be able to play every game.
I think things are better now. More consistency, quicker bug fixes, better compatibility. (who remembers having to configure their "high memory" properly to make a game run right? (people who never gamed on DOS and early windows have no idea how much fun they missed)
How about graph paper? Early RPG's had no in game maps, so it was up to the player to manually map their position on graph paper. Random teleports, spinners, dark zones etc were all designed to thwart these mapping efforts and prolong our gaming effort. (good times, good times)
I'd say PC games are a lot more user friendly now days, (maybe too much so), hardware far more compatible, and overall the PC gaming experience is rather pleasant.
What has gotten worse is the lack of variety due to the big budget nature of PC games today. Back in the late 80's and 90's, many games were programmed by small teams, literally even one or two people (anyone remember the Starfleet games?) so developers could really afford to take risks.
Many of those early games were total crap, but just as many gems came out and gave us some great gaming.
Nowdays the big budget nature prevents studios from taking risks, they have to follow forumulas that have worked before, (sort of like the movie industry) and we don't get much new these days.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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All of you suckers playing your xbox are missing out on all the great mods for some of the same titles. Do you realize how many nude mods there are for Oblivion?
You do realize that you have to connect to the internet to get those mods, right? And if you're connecting to the internet, there are FAR more interesting things to look at than nude mods for a video game
PC gamign isn't dead, mmo gaming on the other hand has been awful so far. There are good mmos comng but we will have to wait. We also have Stracraft 2 and Diablo 3 which no doubt will be awesome.
All of you suckers playing your xbox are missing out on all the great mods for some of the same titles. Do you realize how many nude mods there are for Oblivion?
You do realize that you have to connect to the internet to get those mods, right? And if you're connecting to the internet, there are FAR more interesting things to look at than nude mods for a video game
Mods for games like HL2, WC Rts and Diablo keep people playing for a very long time.
Look at the last diablo 2 mod.
Freaking thing doubled the amount of items and spells/skills the original game had.
If that doesn't blow the door off those 4.99 Xbox DLC i don't know what will.
Just imagine if older console games had mod communities.
Imagine a game like Castlevania: SotN having 100+ different single play campaigns just as good as the original? holy crap!
I still play WC rts due to new multiplayer mods, HL2 mod games get major play through steam on my PC also. Hell even games like Fallout3 and now GTA4 are stacked with play mods both multiplayer and single player.
You will never get that type of replay value on consoles....never, ever!
I get what the OP is saying. I've been a die hard fan of PC gaming for a very long time (since the C64s -- actually had an Atari 800, but there weren't any games for it that I remember).
I get what he's saying too, and for the most part I agree. I lurk on MMORPG to see news, occassionally still deal with my WoW account... basically nothing out now single or multiplayer really floats my boat anymore. I've recently picked up a PS3 and I enjoy it, but multitasking on a console just isn't the same as on a PC.
As for the Atari 800, there were a TON of games. Two friends of mine had them.
How dare you present him with logic! Don't you understand? He fights epic fights, in epic games, with epic toons....eats epic food and takes epic dumps! He has more e..pic..icity...ness in his little finger than you have in your whole unepic body! - ChicagoCub
Mods are pretty amazing actually. Mods for games like HL2, WC Rts and Diablo keep people playing for a very long time. Look at the last diablo 2 mod. Freaking thing doubled the amount of items and spells/skills the original game had. If that doesn't blow the door off those 4.99 Xbox DLC i don't know what will. Just imagine if older console games had mod communities. Imagine a game like Castlevania: SotN having 100+ different single play campaigns just as good as the original? holy crap! I still play WC rts due to new multiplayer mods, HL2 mod games get major play through steam on my PC also. Hell even games like Fallout3 and now GTA4 are stacked with play mods both multiplayer and single player. You will never get that type of replay value on consoles....never, ever!
There are probably already more levels created in that game alone than all the mods for the games you mentioned combined.
besides, saying consoles will never get that is pretty ignorant. It's only a matter of time before mods are fully compatible on consoles. Unreal Tournament 3 already allows mods on the Playstation 3 version and user created content becomes more and more importaqnt.
To get back on topic, The time PC gaming actually mattered has long passed. It's currently on mmorpg lifesupport. Consoles are closer to PC gamings graphics than ever before. With the exception of Crysis, games such as Killzone 2, Gears of War 2 and Resident Evil 5 can compete with most of the graphical intense games on the PC.
PC gaming, save for MMORPG's, has been in sharp decline for years now. The answer here is no secret, Not only are consoles cheaper and much more user friendly, the exclusive games are often better.
Mods are pretty amazing actually. Mods for games like HL2, WC Rts and Diablo keep people playing for a very long time. Look at the last diablo 2 mod. Freaking thing doubled the amount of items and spells/skills the original game had. If that doesn't blow the door off those 4.99 Xbox DLC i don't know what will. Just imagine if older console games had mod communities. Imagine a game like Castlevania: SotN having 100+ different single play campaigns just as good as the original? holy crap! I still play WC rts due to new multiplayer mods, HL2 mod games get major play through steam on my PC also. Hell even games like Fallout3 and now GTA4 are stacked with play mods both multiplayer and single player. You will never get that type of replay value on consoles....never, ever!
There are probably already more levels created in that game alone than all the mods for the games you mentioned combined.
besides, saying consoles will never get that is pretty ignorant. It's only a matter of time before mods are fully compatible on consoles. Unreal Tournament 3 already allows mods on the Playstation 3 version and user created content becomes more and more importaqnt.
To get back on topic, The time PC gaming actually mattered has long passed. It's currently on mmorpg lifesupport. Consoles are closer to PC gamings graphics than ever before. With the exception of Crysis, games such as Killzone 2, Gears of War 2 and Resident Evil 5 can compete with most of the graphical intense games on the PC.
PC gaming, save for MMORPG's, has been in sharp decline for years now. The answer here is no secret, Not only are consoles cheaper and much more user friendly, the exclusive games are often better.
Awesome consoles finally have level editors LOL! welcome to 15 years ago.
Im sorry but consoles are a long way off from having total conversion mods.
Mods for WC3 changed the multiplayer aspect of that game totally. Mods for HL2 change HL2 so much that you don't even know what game it was originally (mods that mimic twisted metal and medievil combat).
Also all those games GW2, RE5 will be on PC sooner or later with mod communities, while consoles get them first we play them 10 times longer then console gamers.
Also who the hell cares about KZ2 it freaking blows I'll play HL2, Fear2 or CoD anyday over that pos.
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Xbox uses some version of DirectX I believe. Even arcade systems from Japan use some light version of windows, hah.
So the argument that consoles are more stable and less buggy is a bit less true. I remember that our megadrive (called a Genesis in the US ya?) never once bugged or gave an error, never had to patch and it worked every single time. I think those were the most stable gaming platforms every, oh and maybe the original gameboy hehe.
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...It's all been downhill from there.
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Windows Gaming is about the only thing standing in the way of Linux becoming a mainstream OS next to Windows. I think MS does care if people play PC games or not. They make a profit on Xbox but it's nowhere near the profits they make from their Windows clients.
Why would MS help so many companies with DirectX problems and ship DX betas to game developers before anyone else and help them with PC games and their compatibility otherwise.
You might not know, but MS, ATI, AMD, INTEL, Nvidia, they all have teams working with game developers to assure compatibility, if MS wanted to kill PC gaming they could, there's just absolutely no logical reason why they would want to.
Microsoft wasnt going to abandon PC gaming, but truth be told they dont have anything to gain from it. Windows is still too safe, well known and well published for it to fear Linux even without games. I like linux too, dont get me wrong, but the OS is not backed by a large company like Microsoft, which is important in this day and age.
Teiman is correct. GFW was a trick to get PC gamers over to the 360 in which they are garanteed profit. Its sick really. Since they got involved in the console war, they have done what EA did in the past...aquire, drain, and dump. Remember games like Freelancer? Digital Anvil was scooped up by Microsoft, the founder was forced to leave, the franchises it was working on sold to other development groups and the employees merged into Microsofts own ranks. Digital Anvil was then destroyed. They literally are bullying the market, games being bullied or bribed into releasing for the xbox, only for it, or for it first. I do not think its pure coincidence that certain PS3 versions of the game were purposefully released in shoddy condition compared to the 360s. No surprise that Bethesda just admitted its now going xbox exclusive.
PC gaming is sadly being forced down a bit by microsofts tactics. All they care about is their console. We are seeing that some of the best PC games in terms of that old quality we were used to, are coming from Europe, which hasnt fallen victem to the Microsoft agenda. I dont hate microsoft, but i hate what they are doing to gaming in general. Along with EA, they have severly damaged the quality of gaming as a whole by eliminating and conquering unique independant development studios. Blizzard and Valve are a shining reminder of the type of development studios that used to exist.
OP, PC gaming isnt dead, but its changing. Consoles are a controlled market, more ways to exploit and milk the consumer can be found in them. PC gaming isnt lost, keep buying to show theres a market for it, and avoid consoles as much as possible. If you have to get a console, go PS3, Sony is the only company thats not using douchelevel business practices, they actually are the one company that has promoted the most inovation. PCs linked up with consoles as one big system, how can you not love that.
Sure it was....the sky is also made out of ice cream....true story.
If a next-gen console was released with a decent hard drive, internet connectivity and a keyboard+mouse control interface, I would never use my PC for gaming ever again.
The combination of technologies would create (imo) the absolute perfect gaming platform.
Playing: EVE, Final Fantasy 13, Uncharted 2, Need for Speed: Shift
You should look into getting a PS3.
You should look into getting a PS3.
Got one. Can plug a USB keyboard/mouse into it but (virtually) no games support them.
Still gotta use the controller and I really, really hate the controller.
Blu-ray is nice though.
Playing: EVE, Final Fantasy 13, Uncharted 2, Need for Speed: Shift
I do not have a console; they can't even match a PC for graphics so why get one? For countless same template boring games?
I agree that MS do want to have their cake and eat it. Want to play games, buy an Xbox, want to do anything else buy a PC. The launch of the Xbox was two fingers at PC gaming and has just led to more dumbing down in games generally.
But the PC has sailed through console after console launch. It’s still going strong, I can’t see how the market will support so many consoles in the long term, which will benefit both the PC and gaming as a whole.
Games I currently have on my PC installed and I'm playing/played already with no bugs whatsoever or crashes:
LOTRO / Warhammer/ WoW/ Age of Conan / DDO / Guild Wars
(all MMOs)
The rest:
Dead Space
Far Cry 2
Crysis
Crysis Warhead
LOTR: Conquest
FEAR 2
The Club
Battlefield 2142
GRID
NFS ProStreet
rFactor
Legendary
Mass Effect
...I can actually list 20 more and I'm not even close to what I wanted to have / could have had.
How does PC gaming suck exactly?
I have a 360 as well and also have games for that but In no way I consider PC not to be able to compete...
they have been saying pc gaming has been die-ing for years but has it really??
i just upgraded my pc and it might of only been on the cheap side in terms of pc's (i could of bought a ps3 and 360) it was well worth it in my opinion.
the best thing about pc gaming is that a game that is old can still be popular.(cod2 is 3rd on xfire, still got starcraft and cs 1.6 very popular)
on a console its just the next quick fix. and keybaord and mouse FTW
Seriously guys if it wasnt for those bastards at EA not releasing Madden 09 on the PC I wouldn't even own a Xbox360.
Every freaking game from Gears of war to Devil may cry 4 to Fallout 3 I can play on my PC.
Hell even street fighter 4 comes out on PC in april with support for a Madcatz arcade stick.
I don't see how PC gaming is dead at all.
Playing: Nothing
Looking forward to: Nothing
I get what the OP is saying. I've been a die hard fan of PC gaming for a very long time (since the C64s -- actually had an Atari 800, but there weren't any games for it that I remember). However, I recently got fed up with the buy now / fix later attitude that most PC game companies have and I went out and bought a Xbox 360. It freaking works. Everytime. No hassle. The online integration is top notch and I've yet to find a game that I don't like on it. The controller took some getting used to, but after that, it's all good. I even bought a XBox steering wheel controller for Burnout Paradise. It's amazing and fun and glitch free as far as I can tell. Good or bad, consoles are polished and are designed with one thing in mind -- games.
The only thing I use my PC for gaming-wise now is MMOs, and if things go right, I might just play those on the XBox in the near future.
People program the way you spell?
OK, I was really there at the start of PC gaming, buying my first IBM XT Clone back in 1986. It had 4 color CGA graphics (320 x 160 or something like that), 640K ram and a 20 meg HD! (yeah, I was big pimpin)
Almost 1300.00 in 1986 dollars and a small fortune to a broke arse like myself.
Today for the same money I could build a desktop w/ monitor that could launch a space shuttle.
I went out and bought 5 games that day, and I never forget that one of them, Ultima IV would not work on my computer. I went through those character creation questions 10 times, only to have the game crash after they were completed.
I called Orgins Tech support, and they gave me a simple response. Their game had only been tested on true IBM PC XT's, using PCDOS, and they did not support clone computers using MS-DOS.
Fortunately, since this was a common occurance game stores back then would take the game back and refund your money. (something that doesn't happen anymore today)
Our copy protection was in the form of code wheels and books, where you had to look up a word so many pages/paragraphs, lines in them and crashing to the desktop or freezing was SOP.
We had no internet either (yeah, this was in a time before fire, using wooden computers) so if you needed a patch you had to call the vendor and they would mail you patch disks.
Over the years one things remained constant. The sheer variety of hardware builds on PC's always means that some portion of the user base will have trouble running and playing a game, and some small % will never be able to play every game.
I think things are better now. More consistency, quicker bug fixes, better compatibility. (who remembers having to configure their "high memory" properly to make a game run right? (people who never gamed on DOS and early windows have no idea how much fun they missed)
How about graph paper? Early RPG's had no in game maps, so it was up to the player to manually map their position on graph paper. Random teleports, spinners, dark zones etc were all designed to thwart these mapping efforts and prolong our gaming effort. (good times, good times)
I'd say PC games are a lot more user friendly now days, (maybe too much so), hardware far more compatible, and overall the PC gaming experience is rather pleasant.
What has gotten worse is the lack of variety due to the big budget nature of PC games today. Back in the late 80's and 90's, many games were programmed by small teams, literally even one or two people (anyone remember the Starfleet games?) so developers could really afford to take risks.
Many of those early games were total crap, but just as many gems came out and gave us some great gaming.
Nowdays the big budget nature prevents studios from taking risks, they have to follow forumulas that have worked before, (sort of like the movie industry) and we don't get much new these days.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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All of you suckers playing your xbox are missing out on all the great mods for some of the same titles.
Do you realize how many nude mods there are for Oblivion?
You do realize that you have to connect to the internet to get those mods, right? And if you're connecting to the internet, there are FAR more interesting things to look at than nude mods for a video game
PC gamign isn't dead, mmo gaming on the other hand has been awful so far. There are good mmos comng but we will have to wait. We also have Stracraft 2 and Diablo 3 which no doubt will be awesome.
People program the way you spell?
Holy poop, I'm glad I wasn't the only one that kept cringing at that.
You do realize that you have to connect to the internet to get those mods, right? And if you're connecting to the internet, there are FAR more interesting things to look at than nude mods for a video game
I do believe that he was being sarcastic.
Mods are pretty amazing actually.
Mods for games like HL2, WC Rts and Diablo keep people playing for a very long time.
Look at the last diablo 2 mod.
Freaking thing doubled the amount of items and spells/skills the original game had.
If that doesn't blow the door off those 4.99 Xbox DLC i don't know what will.
Just imagine if older console games had mod communities.
Imagine a game like Castlevania: SotN having 100+ different single play campaigns just as good as the original? holy crap!
I still play WC rts due to new multiplayer mods, HL2 mod games get major play through steam on my PC also. Hell even games like Fallout3 and now GTA4 are stacked with play mods both multiplayer and single player.
You will never get that type of replay value on consoles....never, ever!
Playing: Nothing
Looking forward to: Nothing
This thread is made of phail, PC Gaming is alive and going strong I suggest the OP stops playing on the PC if he doesn't enjoy the gaming experience.
I get what he's saying too, and for the most part I agree. I lurk on MMORPG to see news, occassionally still deal with my WoW account... basically nothing out now single or multiplayer really floats my boat anymore. I've recently picked up a PS3 and I enjoy it, but multitasking on a console just isn't the same as on a PC.
As for the Atari 800, there were a TON of games.
Two friends of mine had them.
How dare you present him with logic! Don't you understand? He fights epic fights, in epic games, with epic toons....eats epic food and takes epic dumps! He has more e..pic..icity...ness in his little finger than you have in your whole unepic body! - ChicagoCub
www.gametrailers.com/player/42079.html
There are probably already more levels created in that game alone than all the mods for the games you mentioned combined.
besides, saying consoles will never get that is pretty ignorant. It's only a matter of time before mods are fully compatible on consoles. Unreal Tournament 3 already allows mods on the Playstation 3 version and user created content becomes more and more importaqnt.
To get back on topic, The time PC gaming actually mattered has long passed. It's currently on mmorpg lifesupport. Consoles are closer to PC gamings graphics than ever before. With the exception of Crysis, games such as Killzone 2, Gears of War 2 and Resident Evil 5 can compete with most of the graphical intense games on the PC.
PC gaming, save for MMORPG's, has been in sharp decline for years now. The answer here is no secret, Not only are consoles cheaper and much more user friendly, the exclusive games are often better.
www.gametrailers.com/player/42079.html
There are probably already more levels created in that game alone than all the mods for the games you mentioned combined.
besides, saying consoles will never get that is pretty ignorant. It's only a matter of time before mods are fully compatible on consoles. Unreal Tournament 3 already allows mods on the Playstation 3 version and user created content becomes more and more importaqnt.
To get back on topic, The time PC gaming actually mattered has long passed. It's currently on mmorpg lifesupport. Consoles are closer to PC gamings graphics than ever before. With the exception of Crysis, games such as Killzone 2, Gears of War 2 and Resident Evil 5 can compete with most of the graphical intense games on the PC.
PC gaming, save for MMORPG's, has been in sharp decline for years now. The answer here is no secret, Not only are consoles cheaper and much more user friendly, the exclusive games are often better.
Awesome consoles finally have level editors LOL! welcome to 15 years ago.
Im sorry but consoles are a long way off from having total conversion mods.
Mods for WC3 changed the multiplayer aspect of that game totally. Mods for HL2 change HL2 so much that you don't even know what game it was originally (mods that mimic twisted metal and medievil combat).
Also all those games GW2, RE5 will be on PC sooner or later with mod communities, while consoles get them first we play them 10 times longer then console gamers.
Also who the hell cares about KZ2 it freaking blows I'll play HL2, Fear2 or CoD anyday over that pos.
Playing: Nothing
Looking forward to: Nothing
@OP;
I think PC gaming is dying only because of your horrible spelling.