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Even IF Darkfall is a massive failure...
absolut187
Member Posts: 105
Even IF Darkfall is a massive failure... (which appears likely based on today's performance) it has at least proven one thing:
The huge number of people following and ready to pay for DF shows that FFA PvP with Full-loot is a viable market.
It shows that companies like Blizzard and Funcom should take it seriously and at the very least offer a FFA full-loot server option. It may not be 12 million, but it is still a large number of people by all accounts.
It shows that many people are bored with the safety of instanced, non-PvP with targeted click-point-wait PvE-only combat.
Darkfall has proven that a market exists. Obviously I hope it succeeds, BUT *even if* DF is a complete failure in its own right, at least it will hopefully pave the way for a wider variety in MMOs and maybe a wider variety in server ruleset offerings from the big gaming companies.
Although I do think the developers deserve some credit for even making a game with a relatively tiny budget and development team, it really is a shame that they continue to treat their fans (paying customers now) like crap.
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Its funny how people who hate Darkfall spend so much time talking about Darkfall.
I guess being a fat troll means having no friends, no girls, and nothing better to do than spew hate on internet forums..
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I agree that regardless of DF's performance from here on out, it shows that games like Mortal Online and Earthrise should be received well if they don't make huge mistakes.
You never graduated college, did you?
DF doesn't have a "big" audience by any standards. Yeah, there's a group of griefing f' tards out there who have been waiting for an open PvP "MMORPG" (since they suck at FPS games and can only play games where they have the chance to surprise gank people)... so what.
And all the numbers and data we've heard about DF could be nothing but figures pulled from TASOS a*s. Madoff just duped the world for $50 Billion dollars, it really wouldn't be THAT hard for some prick in the dark depths of europe to rip off a bunch of gamer rejects who suck at life.
Woaaaahhhh XXAA great insight............. there is definitely a niche market for ffa pvp. Not sure how you can say that there isn't.
CsM III
No-one is denying that there is a market for this gameplay, I think this is where people get confused. A lot of the fanboys assume that because Trolls are bashing DF that they are by extension bashing FFA PvP/Sandbox games or indie developers. They couldn't be more wrong.
What the Trolls are actually attacking is the unprofessional approach and shoddy delivery shown - not just by Aventurine - but a lot of recent developers. People need to stop pouring praise on a company that is unproven and simply has 'a great idea'. Anyone can come up with a great idea, but if there is to be any advancement in this industry, it is going to have to be a survival of the fittest.
We shouldn't support any old limping dog just because they are the next great hope for MMO's. Sometimes it's more humane to put it out of its misery and let a more capable candidate come forward.
Yea PVPers suck at fps games so they play mmorpgs
great dude, you are awesome, how did you come up with something so delightfully eloquent?
/signed
Though the failure or success of Darkfall is still unclear. I am waiting a few months to get to a final verdict on that one.
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Maybe, maybe not. It clearly shows that a lot of ppl like the idea of such a system, how well the majority of those will like it in reality, is still unknown. Well, beta tester have already tried it, but they are not the majority.
Yea PVPers suck at fps games so they play mmorpgs
great dude, you are awesome, how did you come up with something so delightfully eloquent?
He was top of his class at ITT tech. You can tell by the brilliant - yet angry and hostile - post that this guy is no dunce, and probably has a lot of friends.
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Its funny how people who hate Darkfall spend so much time talking about Darkfall.
I guess being a fat troll means having no friends, no girls, and nothing better to do than spew hate on internet forums..
I'm a registered troll according to most. But... I don't think we can label Darkfall as a massive failure or any kind of failure at this point. I think they did an admirable job just getting the game to this stage.
But I can't help wondering how some of you avid fanbois are so caught up in the game? Serious question now. I mean the rabid defense of this game and the extreme loyalty is perplexing to me?
I just don't get it. This is at best an amateur production similar to most free-to-play games. It's just not all that great when you take a non biased look at it.
The only thing I think that attracts you guys is the FFA PVP with FULL looting of corpses. That's it.
In fact. I'll go one step further. I'll bet anything that IF this game never promised free for all pvp with full looting NONE of you fans would even be looking at it period. I'm willing to bet on this.
I just don't see what's so great about this game? It's perplexing.
A lot of us are cheering AGAINST darkfall for this very reason.
If darkfall launches, there is no doubt it will fail. But what might happens is that other developers will say "see, a FFA pvp game isn't a viable business decision". When in fact the reason darkfall is going to fail is because it is made by a crappy company.
If darkfall doesn't launch, then it's more likely other companies will see it's failure as a 'company' problem and not a ruleset problem.
Trust me, if you want more FFA PVP games.. you do NOT want Darkfall to be your posterchild.
Maybe, maybe not. It clearly shows that a lot of ppl like the idea of such a system, how well the majority of those will like it in reality, is still unknown. Well, beta tester have already tried it, but they are not the majority.
Exactly. All this means is that people are curious. Thousands of people stop to watch car wrecks too.
Exactly.
It already launched.
And it does not appear to be going well so far..
Hopefully the game itself is better than their account management.
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Its funny how people who hate Darkfall spend so much time talking about Darkfall.
I guess being a fat troll means having no friends, no girls, and nothing better to do than spew hate on internet forums..
I agree with that, other than your suggestion that Blizzard take note.
They have no reason to, at least not yet.
WoW is hugely successful and will remain so for a while. the millions who don't like FFA PvP will gravitate much more to WoW than any of the other games of the same ilk, and the few thousand who like FFA PvP will go to DF or similar
It already launched.
And it does not appear to be going well so far..
Hopefully the game itself is better than their account management.
it launched? I don't think people can actually play it.. which is what my definition of 'launch' is.
Maybe, maybe not. It clearly shows that a lot of ppl like the idea of such a system, how well the majority of those will like it in reality, is still unknown. Well, beta tester have already tried it, but they are not the majority.
Exactly. All this means is that people are curious. Thousands of people stop to watch car wrecks too.
Good analogy, but ouch ...
"If" Darkfall is a massive failure...?
I thought we had already passed that milestone?
Maybe, maybe not. It clearly shows that a lot of ppl like the idea of such a system, how well the majority of those will like it in reality, is still unknown. Well, beta tester have already tried it, but they are not the majority.
Exactly. All this means is that people are curious. Thousands of people stop to watch car wrecks too.
Good analogy, but ouch ...
You don't have to pay $50 to watch a car wreck.
True, many of the people trying to sign up right now may not stick around for very many monthly subscription fees. People may leave because (a) they only thought they wanted FFA pvp, or (b) Darkfall has specific problems (beyond concept), or both.
But the fact that thousands (We don't know yet how many) are willing to shell out $50 to try it out seems noteworthy, at the very least.
If WoW created just one server that was FFA pvp with full-loot and no alignment, I would probably buy the game.
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Its funny how people who hate Darkfall spend so much time talking about Darkfall.
I guess being a fat troll means having no friends, no girls, and nothing better to do than spew hate on internet forums..