"...we’ll open up account management later tonight for these accounts to be able to correct their account data and credit information before we reprocess them" So account management will be open tonight? Uhm.. I mean for Americans and when will it be open for Europeans?
no, read carefully.
I would explain but I dont seem to be able to paste on this forum anymore... and cba to type it all.
Update 5.49pm GMT After addressing a couple of early issues the servers have been running..for several hours and we have...players in-game right now. ...expect more issues to surface in the next couple of days. We postponed...maintenance...until...later tonight. We have...Only a small percentage of...success...
Shouldn't all of this stuff have been ironed out in Beta?
Never played or watched any forums of an MMO at launch hu?
That's true with a but....
This is NOT a typical launch, so don't compare this to the GIANT mmo's previously released like AOC, Vanguard, War and others.
This particular launch has ONLY about 5,000 people. That's it.
It's true that most launches have issues certainly, but major games had 500,000 to 1,000,000 people hitting the servers, NOT 5,000 or so.
I'm sure they will get a handle on it but lets keep this real. They really shouldn't be having this many issues with such a SMALL amount of users. That's all I'm saying.
Shouldn't all of this stuff have been ironed out in Beta?
Never played or watched any forums of an MMO at launch hu?
Quite a few, actually. Do you realize that what you just said to me has been repeated probably 1,000 times today. Have you ever participated in a MMO beta? I have. In fact, I was in Darkfall's Beta.
[quote]We have processed the problematic accounts that were never charged but received a successful pre-order notification. Only a small percentage of these were successful and we found out that this is because most of them contain incomplete or incorrect account information. We will try this one last time again tomorrow morning European time, and we’ll open up account management later tonight for these accounts to be able to correct their account data and credit information before we reprocess them. If anyone does not want the pre-order to be processed, they should remove their credit card information from their account. After this is concluded we should be able to open up sales for more Darkfall copies.[/quote]
How the F**K was my information incomplete or incorrect when i was charged successfully 3 times.
IF you have carefully follow tasos over the years he never take responsibillity for any fault or mistake he always blame everything on others he is the true personification of a coward.
Its offcorse rediculous to say that pre orders who did not come through, its there fault while they have been charged lol.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Man, some of the more hardcore fanboys have ran with the "troll" term.. Don't enjoy the game: Troll. Have any little bit of critism: Troll. Have any doubt about Aventurine: troll. Have any technical problems with the game/account management: Troll.. Sure, there are quite a few real trolls (ie people who post only to inflame forum threads for their own enjoyment), but many people who are branded trolls, are not infact, trolls.. Critic does NOT equal troll. There is a big difference. There are some very reasonable concerns/critisms on how AV are handling things. I have been around MANY mmo launches, and sure, you should expect some problems, but that doesn't mean people can't bitch about them. We should want this genre of games to IMPROVE, and not voicing your concerns because the game/company/whatever is new will not help things. There have been plenty of releases with only small hiccups. If the playerbase do not bring these problems up, what motivation does the Dev team have to fix them ASAP?
Well now he's gone from blaming other companys to blaming the customer for the pre-orders not going thru. Ya just gotta shake your head.
I know I entered my info correctly and that I have plenty of available credit. I even called my bank and asked if I had any declines (NOPE) . So this is all on their end. Don't let them BS you
Man, some of the more hardcore fanboys have ran with the "troll" term.. Don't enjoy the game: Troll. Have any little bit of critism: Troll. Have any doubt about Aventurine: troll. Have any technical problems with the game/account management: Troll.. Sure, there are quite a few real trolls (ie people who post only to inflame forum threads for their own enjoyment), but many people who are branded trolls, are not infact, trolls.. Critic does NOT equal troll. There is a big difference. There are some very reasonable concerns/critisms on how AV are handling things. I have been around MANY mmo launches, and sure, you should expect some problems, but that doesn't mean people can't bitch about them. We should want this genre of games to IMPROVE, and not voicing your concerns because the game/company/whatever is new will not help things. There have been plenty of releases with only small hiccups. If the playerbase do not bring these problems up, what motivation does the Dev team have to fix them ASAP?
You are exactly right. I've noticd it too. So many ignorant POS posters running around calling everyone who thinks this is a bad launch, or thinks that Aventurine has horrible communication skills, a troll. What the fuck is wrong with people these days??
Here's an example:
Person 1. registered today: I don't like the lag I'm getting.
Fanboy: Try Harder, troll.
It's just ridiculous.. and to think.. these is the "darkfall experience".. I say they are the bottom feeders in the world labeling anyone who's against them a "troll"..
i don't know why people are complaining though i downloaded the game fine installed fine, and patched fine, just waiting for the order server to open they already said it was gonna be a limited release and they have gotten way more traffic than they intended . how is this bad? some people are just bitches, i don't know "shrugs"
If you were on the receiving end of the stick, you would "bitch" like the rest of them who couldn't login. Im glad you encountered no problems, but judging from the "bitching" many people did. Be glad you aint one of them.
Man, some of the more hardcore fanboys have ran with the "troll" term.. Don't enjoy the game: Troll. Have any little bit of critism: Troll. Have any doubt about Aventurine: troll. Have any technical problems with the game/account management: Troll.. Sure, there are quite a few real trolls (ie people who post only to inflame forum threads for their own enjoyment), but many people who are branded trolls, are not infact, trolls.. Critic does NOT equal troll. There is a big difference. There are some very reasonable concerns/critisms on how AV are handling things. I have been around MANY mmo launches, and sure, you should expect some problems, but that doesn't mean people can't bitch about them. We should want this genre of games to IMPROVE, and not voicing your concerns because the game/company/whatever is new will not help things. There have been plenty of releases with only small hiccups. If the playerbase do not bring these problems up, what motivation does the Dev team have to fix them ASAP?
Agree with this post, the word troll seems to mean something completely different now not even just to darkfall fans.
I remember when troll was a joke thread pretending to be serious to catch some idiots out adding to the humour.
now its just a general term for haters, flamebaiters, flaming, being negative/skeptical or just disagreeing...
Man, some of the more hardcore fanboys have ran with the "troll" term.. Don't enjoy the game: Troll. Have any little bit of critism: Troll. Have any doubt about Aventurine: troll. Have any technical problems with the game/account management: Troll.. Sure, there are quite a few real trolls (ie people who post only to inflame forum threads for their own enjoyment), but many people who are branded trolls, are not infact, trolls.. Critic does NOT equal troll. There is a big difference. There are some very reasonable concerns/critisms on how AV are handling things. I have been around MANY mmo launches, and sure, you should expect some problems, but that doesn't mean people can't bitch about them. We should want this genre of games to IMPROVE, and not voicing your concerns because the game/company/whatever is new will not help things. There have been plenty of releases with only small hiccups. If the playerbase do not bring these problems up, what motivation does the Dev team have to fix them ASAP?
Well said.
Allow people to report problems they are having without abusing them.
Man, some of the more hardcore fanboys have ran with the "troll" term.. Don't enjoy the game: Troll. Have any little bit of critism: Troll. Have any doubt about Aventurine: troll. Have any technical problems with the game/account management: Troll.. Sure, there are quite a few real trolls (ie people who post only to inflame forum threads for their own enjoyment), but many people who are branded trolls, are not infact, trolls.. Critic does NOT equal troll. There is a big difference. There are some very reasonable concerns/critisms on how AV are handling things. I have been around MANY mmo launches, and sure, you should expect some problems, but that doesn't mean people can't bitch about them. We should want this genre of games to IMPROVE, and not voicing your concerns because the game/company/whatever is new will not help things. There have been plenty of releases with only small hiccups. If the playerbase do not bring these problems up, what motivation does the Dev team have to fix them ASAP?
Agree with this post, the word troll seems to mean something completely different now not even just to darkfall fans.
I remember when troll was a joke thread pretending to be serious to catch some idiots out adding to the humour.
now its just a general term for haters, flamebaiters, flaming, being negative/skeptical or just disagreeing...
Or folks who have a legitimate billing issue with AV's POS system.
Critic does NOT equal troll. There is a big difference. There are some very reasonable concerns/critisms on how AV are handling things. I have been around MANY mmo launches, and sure, you should expect some problems, but that doesn't mean people can't bitch about them.
there is a fine line between being critical and verbal diarrhea of the mouth .
i have seen people spam useless stuff then turn around and ask where to download the client .
then i have seen people bitch about release that have preorders and say they will cancel there account ....and say the games not worth it.
even though they where in beta and bought the preorder.
Shouldn't all of this stuff have been ironed out in Beta?
Never played or watched any forums of an MMO at launch hu?
That's true with a but....
This is NOT a typical launch, so don't compare this to the GIANT mmo's previously released like AOC, Vanguard, War and others.
This particular launch has ONLY about 5,000 people. That's it.
It's true that most launches have issues certainly, but major games had 500,000 to 1,000,000 people hitting the servers, NOT 5,000 or so.
I'm sure they will get a handle on it but lets keep this real. They really shouldn't be having this many issues with such a SMALL amount of users. That's all I'm saying.
He does have a point there.
If Aventurine had a decent person in charge (basically NOT Tasos) I have no doubt this would have went much better for them.
Most of the problems they've had over the last week aren't as much to do with the game itself as in it's coordination, planning, and execution. All steps that a competent director/producer should have been able to organize.
The vast majority of DarkFall's problems the last few days can be squared placed on Tasos. Hopefully DarkFall will be able to weather his incompetence.
Man, some of the more hardcore fanboys have ran with the "troll" term.. Don't enjoy the game: Troll. Have any little bit of critism: Troll. Have any doubt about Aventurine: troll. Have any technical problems with the game/account management: Troll.. Sure, there are quite a few real trolls (ie people who post only to inflame forum threads for their own enjoyment), but many people who are branded trolls, are not infact, trolls.. Critic does NOT equal troll. There is a big difference. There are some very reasonable concerns/critisms on how AV are handling things. I have been around MANY mmo launches, and sure, you should expect some problems, but that doesn't mean people can't bitch about them. We should want this genre of games to IMPROVE, and not voicing your concerns because the game/company/whatever is new will not help things. There have been plenty of releases with only small hiccups. If the playerbase do not bring these problems up, what motivation does the Dev team have to fix them ASAP?
Well said.
Allow people to report problems they are having without abusing them.
QFT. I really couldn't care less of an mmo developer is indie or not. Your billing (how you fucking take your money IN) is business basics 101. Doesn't have jack shit to do with whether you've developed an mmo before.
It's just some business basics that should have been taken care of ahead of basically everything else.
Cause if enough folks have trouble with your customer service, newsflash, they are NOT GOING TO STAY SUBSCRIBED.
ANY BUSINESS should know this. I don't care how fucking new people claim they are.
If you were on the receiving end of the stick, you would "bitch" like the rest of them who couldn't login. Im glad you encountered no problems, but judging from the "bitching" many people did. Be glad you aint one of them.
nope i wouldn't be on the receiving end ,because i know from experience to wait until a couple days after a game launch to try and get in.
because as the saying goes "fools rush in"
that's why the game is patched and ready to go on my end when they get there stuff straignted out.
If you were on the receiving end of the stick, you would "bitch" like the rest of them who couldn't login. Im glad you encountered no problems, but judging from the "bitching" many people did. Be glad you aint one of them.
nope i wouldn't be on the receiving end ,because i know from experience to wait until a couple days after a game launch to try and get in.
because as the saying goes "fools rush in"
that's why the game is patched and ready to go on my end when they get there stuff straignted out.
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Never played or watched any forums of an MMO at launch hu?
Rock solid and stable client........
Glad to see you are coming around!
no, read carefully.
I would explain but I dont seem to be able to paste on this forum anymore... and cba to type it all.
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Thats better
Nope, seems we'll have to wait AT LEAST till tomorrow.
yes, thats exactly what I said.
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Never played or watched any forums of an MMO at launch hu?
That's true with a but....
This is NOT a typical launch, so don't compare this to the GIANT mmo's previously released like AOC, Vanguard, War and others.
This particular launch has ONLY about 5,000 people. That's it.
It's true that most launches have issues certainly, but major games had 500,000 to 1,000,000 people hitting the servers, NOT 5,000 or so.
I'm sure they will get a handle on it but lets keep this real. They really shouldn't be having this many issues with such a SMALL amount of users. That's all I'm saying.
So, from what I gathered from the "New Update" was they will be selling more pre-orders tomorrow morning post-launch.
i don't know why people are complaining though i downloaded the game fine installed fine, and patched fine,
just waiting for the order server to open
they already said it was gonna be a limited release and they have gotten way more traffic than they intended .
how is this bad?
some people are just bitches, i don't know "shrugs"
Never played or watched any forums of an MMO at launch hu?
Quite a few, actually. Do you realize that what you just said to me has been repeated probably 1,000 times today. Have you ever participated in a MMO beta? I have. In fact, I was in Darkfall's Beta.
so stfu.
IF you have carefully follow tasos over the years he never take responsibillity for any fault or mistake he always blame everything on others he is the true personification of a coward.
Its offcorse rediculous to say that pre orders who did not come through, its there fault while they have been charged lol.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Man, some of the more hardcore fanboys have ran with the "troll" term.. Don't enjoy the game: Troll. Have any little bit of critism: Troll. Have any doubt about Aventurine: troll. Have any technical problems with the game/account management: Troll.. Sure, there are quite a few real trolls (ie people who post only to inflame forum threads for their own enjoyment), but many people who are branded trolls, are not infact, trolls.. Critic does NOT equal troll. There is a big difference. There are some very reasonable concerns/critisms on how AV are handling things. I have been around MANY mmo launches, and sure, you should expect some problems, but that doesn't mean people can't bitch about them. We should want this genre of games to IMPROVE, and not voicing your concerns because the game/company/whatever is new will not help things. There have been plenty of releases with only small hiccups. If the playerbase do not bring these problems up, what motivation does the Dev team have to fix them ASAP?
Well now he's gone from blaming other companys to blaming the customer for the pre-orders not going thru. Ya just gotta shake your head.
I know I entered my info correctly and that I have plenty of available credit. I even called my bank and asked if I had any declines (NOPE) . So this is all on their end. Don't let them BS you
You are exactly right. I've noticd it too. So many ignorant POS posters running around calling everyone who thinks this is a bad launch, or thinks that Aventurine has horrible communication skills, a troll. What the fuck is wrong with people these days??
Here's an example:
Person 1. registered today: I don't like the lag I'm getting.
Fanboy: Try Harder, troll.
It's just ridiculous.. and to think.. these is the "darkfall experience".. I say they are the bottom feeders in the world labeling anyone who's against them a "troll"..
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If you were on the receiving end of the stick, you would "bitch" like the rest of them who couldn't login. Im glad you encountered no problems, but judging from the "bitching" many people did. Be glad you aint one of them.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
Never played or watched any forums of an MMO at launch hu?
Actually there have been a few examples of pretty smooth launches...
WAR (US launch) was o.k.
TR was pretty good
CoH/CoV was very good
LoTRo was excellent
There are MMOs that have done it. Yeah, it's usually the exception rather than the rule.
Agree with this post, the word troll seems to mean something completely different now not even just to darkfall fans.
I remember when troll was a joke thread pretending to be serious to catch some idiots out adding to the humour.
now its just a general term for haters, flamebaiters, flaming, being negative/skeptical or just disagreeing...
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Well said.
Allow people to report problems they are having without abusing them.
Agree with this post, the word troll seems to mean something completely different now not even just to darkfall fans.
I remember when troll was a joke thread pretending to be serious to catch some idiots out adding to the humour.
now its just a general term for haters, flamebaiters, flaming, being negative/skeptical or just disagreeing...
Or folks who have a legitimate billing issue with AV's POS system.
there is a fine line between being critical and verbal diarrhea of the mouth .
i have seen people spam useless stuff then turn around and ask where to download the client .
then i have seen people bitch about release that have preorders and say they will cancel there account ....and say the games not worth it.
even though they where in beta and bought the preorder.
talk about asshats.
Never played or watched any forums of an MMO at launch hu?
Plenty , from EQ onwards.
I've only ever seen one other so unprofessional they royaly fuck up the billing process though.
Dark and Light.
Never played or watched any forums of an MMO at launch hu?
That's true with a but....
This is NOT a typical launch, so don't compare this to the GIANT mmo's previously released like AOC, Vanguard, War and others.
This particular launch has ONLY about 5,000 people. That's it.
It's true that most launches have issues certainly, but major games had 500,000 to 1,000,000 people hitting the servers, NOT 5,000 or so.
I'm sure they will get a handle on it but lets keep this real. They really shouldn't be having this many issues with such a SMALL amount of users. That's all I'm saying.
He does have a point there.
If Aventurine had a decent person in charge (basically NOT Tasos) I have no doubt this would have went much better for them.
Most of the problems they've had over the last week aren't as much to do with the game itself as in it's coordination, planning, and execution. All steps that a competent director/producer should have been able to organize.
The vast majority of DarkFall's problems the last few days can be squared placed on Tasos. Hopefully DarkFall will be able to weather his incompetence.
Well said.
Allow people to report problems they are having without abusing them.
QFT. I really couldn't care less of an mmo developer is indie or not. Your billing (how you fucking take your money IN) is business basics 101. Doesn't have jack shit to do with whether you've developed an mmo before.
It's just some business basics that should have been taken care of ahead of basically everything else.
Cause if enough folks have trouble with your customer service, newsflash, they are NOT GOING TO STAY SUBSCRIBED.
ANY BUSINESS should know this. I don't care how fucking new people claim they are.
If you were on the receiving end of the stick, you would "bitch" like the rest of them who couldn't login. Im glad you encountered no problems, but judging from the "bitching" many people did. Be glad you aint one of them.
nope i wouldn't be on the receiving end ,because i know from experience to wait until a couple days after a game launch to try and get in.
because as the saying goes "fools rush in"
that's why the game is patched and ready to go on my end when they get there stuff straignted out.
i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm218/clugzo/darkfall.jpg
If you were on the receiving end of the stick, you would "bitch" like the rest of them who couldn't login. Im glad you encountered no problems, but judging from the "bitching" many people did. Be glad you aint one of them.
nope i wouldn't be on the receiving end ,because i know from experience to wait until a couple days after a game launch to try and get in.
because as the saying goes "fools rush in"
that's why the game is patched and ready to go on my end when they get there stuff straignted out.
i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm218/clugzo/darkfall.jpg
or don't pre-order unless you are willing to accept that you might not get to play on launch day. Both very valid and intelligent choices.
or don't pre-order unless you are willing to accept that you might not get to play on launch day. Both very valid and intelligent choices.
yeah no joke
servers probably coming back up soon since atm they are dead as nails
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