After doing a few google searches, I found a company that has cheat/hack programs for a variety of games and they claim to have a hack program for Darkfall that includes speed hacks, instant teleportation to any coordinates you enter and other similar lame cheats...
Originally posted by evilzucchini Originally posted by xaldraxius
Originally posted by evilzucchini
Originally posted by downtoearth
Originally posted by evilzucchini
I expect this game to get hacked. . . but that looked nothing like any speed hack I have seen before. My guess is that it is a syncing issue which was a problem multiple times throughout beta.
this is what i actully believe because ive seen the devs using a speed modfier in game and it didnt look like that they just moved really fast that was more a dispearing act than a speed hack Exactly. When the GM was following us to a raid he would literally just zip by us and it would still be smooth (although, I don't think his animation sped up so he did look like he was skating a bit).
Just keep trying to convice yourselves of that, but remember you can't come back whining about all of the hacks and exploits in the game because you're just going to close your eyes and pretend they don't exist. I know you aren't very smart. But come on. . .if you read two posts up you can clearly see that I know this game is going to get hacked. Just because I see what looks exactly like a sync bug I saw during beta and tell you that it is not what speed hack looks like (and I have seen plenty in plenty of games) doesn't mean I am sticking my head in the sand.
Duh yeah, that is obviously what you were saying there. Maybe what we were watching were those devs then. Maybe all of the people complaining about speed hacks were just seeing the devs run by. I'm obviously too dumb to understand that speed hacks can take different forms and cause people to jump around like they were teleporting because the other players client isn't able to keep up. Jeez you are too smart for me.
Well apparently me and my friend were hacking too because thats exactly how he looks to me while we were sparring. The server has become increasingly out of sync. Its coming down soon for a fix. You're a retard, no new news.
Haha, nice. I love how everyone has to resort to personal attacks when they run out of ideas. Didn't Mommy ever tell you, "If you can't say something nice don't say anything at all."
It's a Jeep thing. . . _______ |___| \_______/ = |||||| = |X| \*........*/ |X| |X|_________|X| You wouldn't understand
syncing issues would cause the rest of the background and such to slow down and speed up as well.
It's the teleporting character who is out of sync. Darkfall uses a clustered server, and I believe the problem here is synchronization beween nodes (server-side). Each player is in sync with his own node (sees the game world correctly) but their perception of each other lags... and this can be one-sided (node A sees node B correctly, node B is getting delayed data from node A).
Originally posted by tejondour Originally posted by miagisan syncing issues would cause the rest of the background and such to slow down and speed up as well.
It's the teleporting character who is out of sync. Darkfall uses a clustered server, and I believe the problem here is synchronization beween nodes (server-side). Each player is in sync with his own node (sees the game world correctly) but their perception of each other lags... and this can be one-sided (node A sees node B correctly, node B is getting delayed data from node A).
And since a lot of this data correlation is happening client side it can be manipulated. 'Lag hacks' can screw up a game just as well as any other, and it's easy. So yes, somebody is out of sync, but it's being used as a glitch, and will continue to be because the game designers haven't made the proper allowances for it.
syncing issues would cause the rest of the background and such to slow down and speed up as well.
It's the teleporting character who is out of sync. Darkfall uses a clustered server, and I believe the problem here is synchronization beween nodes (server-side). Each player is in sync with his own node (sees the game world correctly) but their perception of each other lags... and this can be one-sided (node A sees node B correctly, node B is getting delayed data from node A).
And since a lot of this data correlation is happening client side it can be manipulated. 'Lag hacks' can screw up a game just as well as any other, and it's easy. So yes, somebody is out of sync, but it's being used as a glitch, and will continue to be because the game designers haven't made the proper allowances for it.
LOL. You are a trip, man. I love how you think you have a clue as to how the game was programmed. Do you actually have any programming experience what-so-ever? Like even just a "hello world" type of thing?
One of the comments on youtube caught my attention. I'm not going to post it here, since I'm not exactly sure what the policies on these forums regarding exploits are but it's the comment telling people how to use the G15 keyboard to exploit certain features of the game.
I wonder if anyone who has a G15 keyboard and is able to log into the game can test this and verify if it's true. I do own a G15 keyboard but lack access to the game. Otherwise, I'd test it myself.
Originally posted by evilzucchini I said it once explicitly, and then pointed out to you that I know this game is going to get hacked. If you think you are a wise elder, why is it so hard for you to understand basic English? Again, I understand that this game can and will probably be hacked. My point was, from the beginning, that this video is probably not a hack because it is exactly what I saw in beta. The fact of the matter is that I have experience in the game, you do not. I have the client and chances are you do not. Take your own advice and learn to listen to those who actually have a clue. I know you want to believe you are wise, but the reality of the situation is that you are nothing more than a hard-headed child, regardless of what it says on your birth certificate.
I'm just saying that just because it 'looked to you' like they were just out of sync, doesn't mean it wasn't a hack. Simple enough English for you?
I said it once explicitly, and then pointed out to you that I know this game is going to get hacked. If you think you are a wise elder, why is it so hard for you to understand basic English? Again, I understand that this game can and will probably be hacked. My point was, from the beginning, that this video is probably not a hack because it is exactly what I saw in beta. The fact of the matter is that I have experience in the game, you do not. I have the client and chances are you do not. Take your own advice and learn to listen to those who actually have a clue. I know you want to believe you are wise, but the reality of the situation is that you are nothing more than a hard-headed child, regardless of what it says on your birth certificate.
Too many of the Darkfall fans have ruined every other persons credibility when it comes to anything that is Darkfall. It won’t matter if you are telling the truth or not, since so many others have lied you are going to be lumped into the same group.
It's a Jeep thing. . . _______ |___| \_______/ = |||||| = |X| \*........*/ |X| |X|_________|X| You wouldn't understand
I said it once explicitly, and then pointed out to you that I know this game is going to get hacked.
If you think you are a wise elder, why is it so hard for you to understand basic English?
Again, I understand that this game can and will probably be hacked. My point was, from the beginning, that this video is probably not a hack because it is exactly what I saw in beta. The fact of the matter is that I have experience in the game, you do not. I have the client and chances are you do not.
Take your own advice and learn to listen to those who actually have a clue. I know you want to believe you are wise, but the reality of the situation is that you are nothing more than a hard-headed child, regardless of what it says on your birth certificate.
I'm just saying that just because it 'looked to you' like they were just out of sync, doesn't mean it wasn't a hack. Simple enough English for you?
And what was so hard for you to understand about the word "probably?" Seriously, you are just flailing, and it is pathetic.
Originally posted by evilzucchini Originally posted by xaldraxius
Originally posted by evilzucchiniI said it once explicitly, and then pointed out to you that I know this game is going to get hacked. If you think you are a wise elder, why is it so hard for you to understand basic English? Again, I understand that this game can and will probably be hacked. My point was, from the beginning, that this video is probably not a hack because it is exactly what I saw in beta. The fact of the matter is that I have experience in the game, you do not. I have the client and chances are you do not. Take your own advice and learn to listen to those who actually have a clue. I know you want to believe you are wise, but the reality of the situation is that you are nothing more than a hard-headed child, regardless of what it says on your birth certificate.
I'm just saying that just because it 'looked to you' like they were just out of sync, doesn't mean it wasn't a hack. Simple enough English for you? And what was so hard for you to understand about the word "probably?" Seriously, you are just flailing, and it is pathetic. It's sad that you continue on when you've nothing to defend yourself with except for how non-commital your responses are. Talk about flailing...jeesh.
syncing issues would cause the rest of the background and such to slow down and speed up as well.
It's the teleporting character who is out of sync. Darkfall uses a clustered server, and I believe the problem here is synchronization beween nodes (server-side). Each player is in sync with his own node (sees the game world correctly) but their perception of each other lags... and this can be one-sided (node A sees node B correctly, node B is getting delayed data from node A).
And since a lot of this data correlation is happening client side it can be manipulated. 'Lag hacks' can screw up a game just as well as any other, and it's easy. So yes, somebody is out of sync, but it's being used as a glitch, and will continue to be because the game designers haven't made the proper allowances for it.
What? No, none of this is done client-side. I spelled that out quite clearly, I thought. The character who is out of sync (node-to-node, server side) is still in sync with his own node, and unless informed by others, is completely unaware that he appears to be a ferret on crack. I've seen it firsthand from both ends.
syncing issues would cause the rest of the background and such to slow down and speed up as well.
It's the teleporting character who is out of sync. Darkfall uses a clustered server, and I believe the problem here is synchronization beween nodes (server-side). Each player is in sync with his own node (sees the game world correctly) but their perception of each other lags... and this can be one-sided (node A sees node B correctly, node B is getting delayed data from node A).
And since a lot of this data correlation is happening client side it can be manipulated. 'Lag hacks' can screw up a game just as well as any other, and it's easy. So yes, somebody is out of sync, but it's being used as a glitch, and will continue to be because the game designers haven't made the proper allowances for it.
What? No, none of this is done client-side. I spelled that out quite clearly, I thought. The character who is out of sync (node-to-node, server side) is still in sync with his own node, and unless informed by others, is completely unaware that he appears to be a ferret on crack. I've seen it firsthand from both ends.
and you are completely unaware that speed-hacks are nothing more than causing 'out of sync' and controlling it. To an outsider, they may at first appear to be the same.. but the big difference is the amount of control the player has over thier actions.
The speed hacks were already written weeks ago, and barely tested on the beta servers.
It's a good thing that you guys keep saying it's a 'sync' problem... the less attention you draw to the hackers the better.
I said it once explicitly, and then pointed out to you that I know this game is going to get hacked.
If you think you are a wise elder, why is it so hard for you to understand basic English?
Again, I understand that this game can and will probably be hacked. My point was, from the beginning, that this video is probably not a hack because it is exactly what I saw in beta. The fact of the matter is that I have experience in the game, you do not. I have the client and chances are you do not.
Take your own advice and learn to listen to those who actually have a clue. I know you want to believe you are wise, but the reality of the situation is that you are nothing more than a hard-headed child, regardless of what it says on your birth certificate.
I'm just saying that just because it 'looked to you' like they were just out of sync, doesn't mean it wasn't a hack. Simple enough English for you?
And what was so hard for you to understand about the word "probably?" Seriously, you are just flailing, and it is pathetic.
It's sad that you continue on when you've nothing to defend yourself with except for how non-commital your responses are. Talk about flailing...jeesh.
I am defending myself against your inability to read. Pointing out that you have failed to comprehend what I have pointed out a number of times is not "nothing." In fact, it is the crux of the argument. Well, other than the fact that you think you understand how the game was programmed or how things are programmed in general, when you obviously have nothing more than a vague understanding of it, at best.
They couldn't even prevent hacking durring beta. That's just sad. Just wait until the new hacks show up, soon it will just be a game of who's got the better hacks. Yay! This is truly the evolution of MMO gaming!
actully i believe that is a syncing issue guess they havent quit got it hammered out the last 350 plus mb patch it showed up
Keep making excuses, LOL. That's what you do best.
While I'm posting.
Whatever happened to the paid professional testers you kept harping on us about. You know. The ones that FULLY beta tested the game for the past year and a half. Yes... The ones you stated time and time again had this game perfectly tested so there would be NO issues at release.
And while I'm on the subject.
How about those AI bots. You stated time and time again how they could stress test the connections and the server so a public beta stress test would NOT be necessary.
You fans have very short memories and can't seem to EVER remember stuff you said when it turns out to be FALSE.
Also Downtoearth.... This mini launch only has about 5,000 users. That's NOT very many and should not have caused these kinds of problems. I'm sure you have an excuse for that. But after listening to you guys put down AOC and Funcom, it's hard to believe you have NOTHING to say about this? At least AOC had almost 1,000,000 players hitting their servers on launch day. NOT 5,000.....
So... What happened?
So... What happened?
The fanbois like Downtoearth are going to ignore your post and pretend it doesn't exist. Just like all the crap they have been spamming these past years over all the gaming forums in how their game sucks and how Darkfall is going to WTFPWN them and being the next Big Thing!
I think all these people are laughing their arses off right now, while they continue to have fun playing their polished and actually working MMO.
Looks like a speed/teleport hack to me. I've seen this in WoW sometimes too. This is more than likely an intentional hack. Will they fix it? Do they have the people to ban players for abusing it? Let's hope so.
I guess you can bind these 3 commands to a key on a G15 and WTFPWNZOR in DF
- bind sheathe weapon
- bind /stuck
- bind unsheathe weapon
Being there is no timer or requirement on the "stuck" state- what this hack will do is make you teleport and jump around your enemy in combat, hitting them while they swing at where you just were.
I guess you can bind these 3 commands to a key on a G15 and WTFPWNZOR in DF - bind sheathe weapon
- bind /stuck
- bind unsheathe weapon Being there is no timer or requirement on the "stuck" state- what this hack will do is make you teleport and jump around your enemy in combat, hitting them while they swing at where you just were.
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After doing a few google searches, I found a company that has cheat/hack programs for a variety of games and they claim to have a hack program for Darkfall that includes speed hacks, instant teleportation to any coordinates you enter and other similar lame cheats...
they just moved really fast that was more a dispearing act than a speed hack
Exactly. When the GM was following us to a raid he would literally just zip by us and it would still be smooth (although, I don't think his animation sped up so he did look like he was skating a bit).
Just keep trying to convice yourselves of that, but remember you can't come back whining about all of the hacks and exploits in the game because you're just going to close your eyes and pretend they don't exist.
I know you aren't very smart. But come on. . .if you read two posts up you can clearly see that I know this game is going to get hacked. Just because I see what looks exactly like a sync bug I saw during beta and tell you that it is not what speed hack looks like (and I have seen plenty in plenty of games) doesn't mean I am sticking my head in the sand.
Duh yeah, that is obviously what you were saying there. Maybe what we were watching were those devs then. Maybe all of the people complaining about speed hacks were just seeing the devs run by. I'm obviously too dumb to understand that speed hacks can take different forms and cause people to jump around like they were teleporting because the other players client isn't able to keep up. Jeez you are too smart for me.
Come on guys... lets bash this company for their billing system or the botched launch. That was a sync error, stop making stuff up.
Haha, nice. I love how everyone has to resort to personal attacks when they run out of ideas. Didn't Mommy ever tell you, "If you can't say something nice don't say anything at all."
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It's the teleporting character who is out of sync. Darkfall uses a clustered server, and I believe the problem here is synchronization beween nodes (server-side). Each player is in sync with his own node (sees the game world correctly) but their perception of each other lags... and this can be one-sided (node A sees node B correctly, node B is getting delayed data from node A).
The liars are the bad guys. Not the guys that call the bad guys, "bad guys".
There are other more civil ways to do that. Lose your temper and start ranting and raving and who then is the real bad guy?
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And since a lot of this data correlation is happening client side it can be manipulated. 'Lag hacks' can screw up a game just as well as any other, and it's easy. So yes, somebody is out of sync, but it's being used as a glitch, and will continue to be because the game designers haven't made the proper allowances for it.
It's the teleporting character who is out of sync. Darkfall uses a clustered server, and I believe the problem here is synchronization beween nodes (server-side). Each player is in sync with his own node (sees the game world correctly) but their perception of each other lags... and this can be one-sided (node A sees node B correctly, node B is getting delayed data from node A).
And since a lot of this data correlation is happening client side it can be manipulated. 'Lag hacks' can screw up a game just as well as any other, and it's easy. So yes, somebody is out of sync, but it's being used as a glitch, and will continue to be because the game designers haven't made the proper allowances for it.
LOL. You are a trip, man. I love how you think you have a clue as to how the game was programmed. Do you actually have any programming experience what-so-ever? Like even just a "hello world" type of thing?
these hacks ruined pvp in UO, and the economy.
I do hope Tasos does some thing about these hacks, I do hope they have the resourses to do this..
That definately looks like a sync issue. Ive seen it hundreds of times in WoW. Looks exactly the same.
Offcourse, I could be wrong. But I dont think I am.
One of the comments on youtube caught my attention. I'm not going to post it here, since I'm not exactly sure what the policies on these forums regarding exploits are but it's the comment telling people how to use the G15 keyboard to exploit certain features of the game.
I wonder if anyone who has a G15 keyboard and is able to log into the game can test this and verify if it's true. I do own a G15 keyboard but lack access to the game. Otherwise, I'd test it myself.
I'm just saying that just because it 'looked to you' like they were just out of sync, doesn't mean it wasn't a hack. Simple enough English for you?
Too many of the Darkfall fans have ruined every other persons credibility when it comes to anything that is Darkfall. It won’t matter if you are telling the truth or not, since so many others have lied you are going to be lumped into the same group.
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You wouldn't understand
I'm just saying that just because it 'looked to you' like they were just out of sync, doesn't mean it wasn't a hack. Simple enough English for you?
And what was so hard for you to understand about the word "probably?" Seriously, you are just flailing, and it is pathetic.
I'm just saying that just because it 'looked to you' like they were just out of sync, doesn't mean it wasn't a hack. Simple enough English for you?
And what was so hard for you to understand about the word "probably?" Seriously, you are just flailing, and it is pathetic.
It's sad that you continue on when you've nothing to defend yourself with except for how non-commital your responses are. Talk about flailing...jeesh.
And since a lot of this data correlation is happening client side it can be manipulated. 'Lag hacks' can screw up a game just as well as any other, and it's easy. So yes, somebody is out of sync, but it's being used as a glitch, and will continue to be because the game designers haven't made the proper allowances for it.
What? No, none of this is done client-side. I spelled that out quite clearly, I thought. The character who is out of sync (node-to-node, server side) is still in sync with his own node, and unless informed by others, is completely unaware that he appears to be a ferret on crack. I've seen it firsthand from both ends.
And since a lot of this data correlation is happening client side it can be manipulated. 'Lag hacks' can screw up a game just as well as any other, and it's easy. So yes, somebody is out of sync, but it's being used as a glitch, and will continue to be because the game designers haven't made the proper allowances for it.
What? No, none of this is done client-side. I spelled that out quite clearly, I thought. The character who is out of sync (node-to-node, server side) is still in sync with his own node, and unless informed by others, is completely unaware that he appears to be a ferret on crack. I've seen it firsthand from both ends.
and you are completely unaware that speed-hacks are nothing more than causing 'out of sync' and controlling it. To an outsider, they may at first appear to be the same.. but the big difference is the amount of control the player has over thier actions.
The speed hacks were already written weeks ago, and barely tested on the beta servers.
It's a good thing that you guys keep saying it's a 'sync' problem... the less attention you draw to the hackers the better.
I'm just saying that just because it 'looked to you' like they were just out of sync, doesn't mean it wasn't a hack. Simple enough English for you?
And what was so hard for you to understand about the word "probably?" Seriously, you are just flailing, and it is pathetic.
It's sad that you continue on when you've nothing to defend yourself with except for how non-commital your responses are. Talk about flailing...jeesh.
I am defending myself against your inability to read. Pointing out that you have failed to comprehend what I have pointed out a number of times is not "nothing." In fact, it is the crux of the argument. Well, other than the fact that you think you understand how the game was programmed or how things are programmed in general, when you obviously have nothing more than a vague understanding of it, at best.
actully i believe that is a syncing issue guess they havent quit got it hammered out the last 350 plus mb patch it showed up
Keep making excuses, LOL. That's what you do best.
While I'm posting.
Whatever happened to the paid professional testers you kept harping on us about. You know. The ones that FULLY beta tested the game for the past year and a half. Yes... The ones you stated time and time again had this game perfectly tested so there would be NO issues at release.
And while I'm on the subject.
How about those AI bots. You stated time and time again how they could stress test the connections and the server so a public beta stress test would NOT be necessary.
You fans have very short memories and can't seem to EVER remember stuff you said when it turns out to be FALSE.
Also Downtoearth.... This mini launch only has about 5,000 users. That's NOT very many and should not have caused these kinds of problems. I'm sure you have an excuse for that. But after listening to you guys put down AOC and Funcom, it's hard to believe you have NOTHING to say about this? At least AOC had almost 1,000,000 players hitting their servers on launch day. NOT 5,000.....
So... What happened?
So... What happened?
The fanbois like Downtoearth are going to ignore your post and pretend it doesn't exist. Just like all the crap they have been spamming these past years over all the gaming forums in how their game sucks and how Darkfall is going to WTFPWN them and being the next Big Thing!
I think all these people are laughing their arses off right now, while they continue to have fun playing their polished and actually working MMO.
Looks like a speed/teleport hack to me. I've seen this in WoW sometimes too. This is more than likely an intentional hack. Will they fix it? Do they have the people to ban players for abusing it? Let's hope so.
I guess you can bind these 3 commands to a key on a G15 and WTFPWNZOR in DF
- bind sheathe weapon
- bind /stuck
- bind unsheathe weapon
Being there is no timer or requirement on the "stuck" state- what this hack will do is make you teleport and jump around your enemy in combat, hitting them while they swing at where you just were.
Anyone tried it?
There are timers on both sheath and unsheath.