I've seen the university I work for go broke, because all their endowment was tied up in investments that tanked. That means there's less work for me as an instructor. Now I have to make ends meet on $8000 a year, and they can't even give me a tuition break, paid parking, or anything else.
From what I hear, the same thing is happening all over higher education.
__________________________ "Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it." --Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints." --Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls." --Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
Well I'm out of work right now and I'm up here in Canada. The people who have work are keeping it just barely and those who do not have an extremely hard time finding a new job. Nothing new is being built so as an Construction Electrician I have no work. Even private renovations have gone down so it's not like I can go out and upgrade someone's electrical service for a few hundred dollars. It's all slow and sluggish. I got all this time on my hands now but not enough money to splurge on fun stuff. When I had the money, I didn't have the time, now that I have the time, I ain't got the money.
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
My company does high end remodeling. Very expensive Kitchens, Master Baths and Room additions.
Most of our residential clients rely on their stocks to pay us. Leads have basically stopped coming in. No one is spending money. The jobs that do come in are usually some type of repair/necessity now. Not nearly as large as what we used to do.
On the Commercial side, I have bid on numerous Zaxby's and 4 that I have bid on cant get financing now, so all those jobs are on hold.
I am a Construction Estimator and its really getting frustrating.
Yeah a couple of guys I know that own their own companies are basically working through whatever contracts they had and finishing them off and then wondering what they'll do when it's all done. I had a job lined up where there was going to be 9 Lowe's stores being built and it was going to an electrical company I was due to start with but the purchase orders never went through, the contracts got pulled and I'm not workin.
Like you said it's all maintenance now. Nobody's remodeling the kitchen, or adding an addition or more commonly for me leasing a new floor in a high rise office building and need to move in there in 2 months time with whole new layouts and floor plans. I'd have to rework the lighting to suit new layouts, wire the new instalations in the walls, wire office furniture, run data lines for telecommunication but nobody's doing any of that anymore. It's frustrating at best. I actually like my job too...
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
well, I closed on a house this past november. Just built, was on the market for a month. Got an awesome deal on it and locked in at %5.3
aside from that, the corporation I work for has more work than it knows what to do with. We were just awarded several new contracts last month that has us up to our necks for the next two years.
so ya, aside from watching some of my favorite restaraunts and bars close.. i havnt been effected
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a robot foot stomping on a human face -- forever."
The recession has not hit Alberta that hard yet. They are predicting we will have 6% unemployment by the end of 2009. Right now we are in the mid 4's...so it is still very low.
That aside, I see no reason to think the recession is going to slow things down. In fact many aspects of business are picking up (labour disputes/divorces/claims for child and spousal support/foreclosures).
I'll probably pick off an associate from one of the larger corporate firms and hire another legal assistant within the year to help deal with our increase in business.
Well to be honest...my work is in a tailspin. This bad economy is really hitting hard. I just got an email from a friend that was on a business trip in Dubai UAE and she said that it is just as bad there. Think about it. Dubai is like the Paris/New York of the middle east. So if they are hurting you know things are really, really bad.
I think the economy is only going to get worse in the next year. People really need to be conscious to work in areas that are recession proof. This is not a bad time to pick up a new career if you are not in an industry that can weather these types of economic storms.
Edit: possibly a union with a lot of clout such as steel (Bush-imposed tariffs on steel imports, but were later removed)
The people outside of government have to pay for everything, and will have to work harder and harder because they will not have (1) cost-of-living adjustments, (2) great government health care, or (3) a cushy pension to rely on.
The little-guy better get smart, or tough, and I mean QUICK! (And the little-guy's social security "trust" fund is ALREADY empty. Government-employees are not required to pay into it. When that is exposed as completely bust and bankrupt, what will happen? I think they will reduce the little-guy's (1) benefits and (2) increase the retirement age.)
Little people, regulary working-joe kind-of people, are in deep, and I mean deep, trouble.
I am sorry to say it. But if you are a "regular" lower-middle-class individual, you have got to get your ass out of debt, and I mean QUICK! QUICK.
And stop accumulating more debt.
You get stuck.
And YOU will NOT (repeat: n o t) get a bail-out - but YOU will pay for others' bail-out.
well, I closed on a house this past november. Just built, was on the market for a month. Got an awesome deal on it and locked in at %5.3 aside from that, the corporation I work for has more work than it knows what to do with. We were just awarded several new contracts last month that has us up to our necks for the next two years. so ya, aside from watching some of my favorite restaraunts and bars close.. i havnt been effected
Let me guess... Military Contractor.
or.. surveillance equipment dealer.
"If you can't out wit them, report them till they're banned!"- PopinJ'
I do not even know what regular Americans do, anymore.
They live on hope, and hope alone. But wait... whats that headed this way? Oh, its disapointment.
Americans would be wise to be people, once again, of action.
When accosted by a lady asking, "what kind-of government did you create for us, Mr. Franklin?"
Benjamin Franklin's response, "a Republic if YOU can keep it."
We have to accept responsibility for ourselves to be responsible, and honorable, citizens. We all have the heart and stomach of a free citizen - and of a free American citizen, too.
If we fail, as a people, to participate fully in our own institutions, then we are to blame. We ought to embrace our liberty (not amend our state Constitutions to take-it-away). We ought to vote - always. We ought to write our members of Congress, for they work, literally, for us. We ought to pray for our nation. We ought to participate in our own institutions. We ought to volunteer at hospitals for our own citiznes.
Let's be Americans again. Let's learn to rely on each other, because if we do not, we have no one else to rely upon but one another.
President Bush, after 9/11, told us to shop. And I am telling YOU to fulfill YOUR destiny, not only for yourselves, but for your country and your children.
well, I closed on a house this past november. Just built, was on the market for a month. Got an awesome deal on it and locked in at %5.3 aside from that, the corporation I work for has more work than it knows what to do with. We were just awarded several new contracts last month that has us up to our necks for the next two years. so ya, aside from watching some of my favorite restaraunts and bars close.. i havnt been effected
Let me guess... Military Contractor.
or.. surveillance equipment dealer.
Military Contractor and coincidentally, the work I do could be considered surveillance in a sense. Its sort of two fold. we supply maps to the military, and we collect "military points of interest"
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a robot foot stomping on a human face -- forever."
The reason I created this post was just to vent. It is really hard to admit how much these hard times hurt us. Pride keeps us from admitting most. We really dont know each other and it makes it easier to tell our story.
It is good to hear that some of us are not affected, but by listening to everyone, it gives us a more personal prospective on how each of us are trying to cope. We even find some solutions to our hurt.
This recession affects all of us from all over the world.
Thanks all for responding with honesty. We will survive, gamers always do.......
Well ive noticed that less people are willing to buy products that i sell, unless it's to do with making money. People are so desperate to make money because they are losing their jobs that its a vulture fest out there in the intarwebz.
well, I closed on a house this past november. Just built, was on the market for a month. Got an awesome deal on it and locked in at %5.3 aside from that, the corporation I work for has more work than it knows what to do with. We were just awarded several new contracts last month that has us up to our necks for the next two years. so ya, aside from watching some of my favorite restaraunts and bars close.. i havnt been effected
Let me guess... Military Contractor.
or.. surveillance equipment dealer.
Military Contractor and coincidentally, the work I do could be considered surveillance in a sense. Its sort of two fold. we supply maps to the military, and we collect "military points of interest"
Guess I called it. Well it wasn't difficult to guess. The government is going to be relying on those "points of interest" (aka locations of potential resisters) as the velvet glove comes off of the iron fist in coming months.
"If you can't out wit them, report them till they're banned!"- PopinJ'
I do not even know what regular Americans do, anymore.
They live on hope, and hope alone. But wait... whats that headed this way? Oh, its disapointment.
Americans would be wise to be people, once again, of action.
When accosted by a lady asking, "what kind-of government did you create for us, Mr. Franklin?"
Benjamin Franklin's response, "a Republic if YOU can keep it."
We have to accept responsibility for ourselves to be responsible, and honorable, citizens. We all have the heart and stomach of a free citizen - and of a free American citizen, too.
If we fail, as a people, to participate fully in our own institutions, then we are to blame. We ought to embrace our liberty (not amend our state Constitutions to take-it-away). We ought to vote - always. We ought to write our members of Congress, for they work, literally, for us. We ought to pray for our nation. We ought to participate in our own institutions. We ought to volunteer at hospitals for our own citiznes.
Let's be Americans again. Let's learn to rely on each other, because if we do not, we have no one else to rely upon but one another.
President Bush, after 9/11, told us to shop. And I am telling YOU to fulfill YOUR destiny, not only for yourselves, but for your country and your children.
American's don't know responsibility anymore. And we're sure not teaching it to our children either.
I can speak from first hand experience from both. I am a teacher. I see irresponsible parents and irresponsible children that picked that quality up from those parents. And it isn't just a few or a minority, it's a most of the kids these days. We're in big trouble. Believe me.
Originally posted by Ockham American's don't know responsibility anymore. And we're sure not teaching it to our children either. I can speak from first hand experience from both. I am a teacher. I see irresponsible parents and irresponsible children that picked that quality up from those parents. And it isn't just a few or a minority, it's a most of the kids these days. We're in big trouble. Believe me.
This is not an attack against you as I am sure there are some exceptions, but the problem is government education. Transfer of stupidity at its finest.
my bro had his hours cut and he decided to move to another area where they were needing people in his field (Flabotomist)(sp?). My dad hasnt felt any heat, he is in the union and works as an electrician at a nuclear power plant ... one that is recruiting due to the aging baby boomer work force. Dunno about my sister, haven't talked to her ina while. My mum is fine as well, nothing has changed with her.
The only thing that really stands out is everyone at my work have just about lost most/half of their 201k's (thats what they call em as a joke).
Playing: EVE Online Favorite MMOs: WoW, SWG Pre-cu, Lineage 2, UO, EQ, EVE online Looking forward to: Archeage, Kingdom Under Fire 2 KUF2's Official Website - http://www.kufii.com/ENG/ -
I do not even know what regular Americans do, anymore.
They live on hope, and hope alone. But wait... whats that headed this way? Oh, its disapointment.
Americans would be wise to be people, once again, of action.
When accosted by a lady asking, "what kind-of government did you create for us, Mr. Franklin?"
Benjamin Franklin's response, "a Republic if YOU can keep it."
We have to accept responsibility for ourselves to be responsible, and honorable, citizens. We all have the heart and stomach of a free citizen - and of a free American citizen, too.
If we fail, as a people, to participate fully in our own institutions, then we are to blame. We ought to embrace our liberty (not amend our state Constitutions to take-it-away). We ought to vote - always. We ought to write our members of Congress, for they work, literally, for us. We ought to pray for our nation. We ought to participate in our own institutions. We ought to volunteer at hospitals for our own citiznes.
Let's be Americans again. Let's learn to rely on each other, because if we do not, we have no one else to rely upon but one another.
President Bush, after 9/11, told us to shop. And I am telling YOU to fulfill YOUR destiny, not only for yourselves, but for your country and your children.
American's don't know responsibility anymore. And we're sure not teaching it to our children either.
I can speak from first hand experience from both. I am a teacher. I see irresponsible parents and irresponsible children that picked that quality up from those parents. And it isn't just a few or a minority, it's a most of the kids these days. We're in big trouble. Believe me.
You are so right, Ock. Here is an example:
Every Christmas my ex wife used to shower our kids with presents when they were younger. I mean expensive ones at that. When the PS3 first came out and they were practically unavailable for purchase during Christmas, she went on Ebay and bought on for 1500.00, because the kids wanted it. They got anywhere between 17 and 20 gifts each, there are three of them. I have watched them just tear into each present and throw it aside and go to the next. No thank you's or show of appreciation.
On my oldest sons 16th birthday, she goes out and buys him a 24 thousand dollar SUV and just gave it to him.
Yes, I was pissed. I believe you need to work for what you get because you appreciate it more. When you grow up, you have PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. No handouts, you believe you have to work for it.
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I've seen the university I work for go broke, because all their endowment was tied up in investments that tanked. That means there's less work for me as an instructor. Now I have to make ends meet on $8000 a year, and they can't even give me a tuition break, paid parking, or anything else.
From what I hear, the same thing is happening all over higher education.
__________________________
"Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it."
--Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints."
--Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls."
--Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
Well I'm out of work right now and I'm up here in Canada. The people who have work are keeping it just barely and those who do not have an extremely hard time finding a new job. Nothing new is being built so as an Construction Electrician I have no work. Even private renovations have gone down so it's not like I can go out and upgrade someone's electrical service for a few hundred dollars. It's all slow and sluggish. I got all this time on my hands now but not enough money to splurge on fun stuff. When I had the money, I didn't have the time, now that I have the time, I ain't got the money.
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
My company does high end remodeling. Very expensive Kitchens, Master Baths and Room additions.
Most of our residential clients rely on their stocks to pay us. Leads have basically stopped coming in. No one is spending money. The jobs that do come in are usually some type of repair/necessity now. Not nearly as large as what we used to do.
On the Commercial side, I have bid on numerous Zaxby's and 4 that I have bid on cant get financing now, so all those jobs are on hold.
I am a Construction Estimator and its really getting frustrating.
Yeah a couple of guys I know that own their own companies are basically working through whatever contracts they had and finishing them off and then wondering what they'll do when it's all done. I had a job lined up where there was going to be 9 Lowe's stores being built and it was going to an electrical company I was due to start with but the purchase orders never went through, the contracts got pulled and I'm not workin.
Like you said it's all maintenance now. Nobody's remodeling the kitchen, or adding an addition or more commonly for me leasing a new floor in a high rise office building and need to move in there in 2 months time with whole new layouts and floor plans. I'd have to rework the lighting to suit new layouts, wire the new instalations in the walls, wire office furniture, run data lines for telecommunication but nobody's doing any of that anymore. It's frustrating at best. I actually like my job too...
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
well, I closed on a house this past november. Just built, was on the market for a month. Got an awesome deal on it and locked in at %5.3
aside from that, the corporation I work for has more work than it knows what to do with. We were just awarded several new contracts last month that has us up to our necks for the next two years.
so ya, aside from watching some of my favorite restaraunts and bars close.. i havnt been effected
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a robot foot stomping on a human face -- forever."
The recession has not hit Alberta that hard yet. They are predicting we will have 6% unemployment by the end of 2009. Right now we are in the mid 4's...so it is still very low.
That aside, I see no reason to think the recession is going to slow things down. In fact many aspects of business are picking up (labour disputes/divorces/claims for child and spousal support/foreclosures).
I'll probably pick off an associate from one of the larger corporate firms and hire another legal assistant within the year to help deal with our increase in business.
Well to be honest...my work is in a tailspin. This bad economy is really hitting hard. I just got an email from a friend that was on a business trip in Dubai UAE and she said that it is just as bad there. Think about it. Dubai is like the Paris/New York of the middle east. So if they are hurting you know things are really, really bad.
This just sucks.
I think the economy is only going to get worse in the next year. People really need to be conscious to work in areas that are recession proof. This is not a bad time to pick up a new career if you are not in an industry that can weather these types of economic storms.
I keep saying that people should either work for
The people outside of government have to pay for everything, and will have to work harder and harder because they will not have (1) cost-of-living adjustments, (2) great government health care, or (3) a cushy pension to rely on.
The little-guy better get smart, or tough, and I mean QUICK! (And the little-guy's social security "trust" fund is ALREADY empty. Government-employees are not required to pay into it. When that is exposed as completely bust and bankrupt, what will happen? I think they will reduce the little-guy's (1) benefits and (2) increase the retirement age.)
Little people, regulary working-joe kind-of people, are in deep, and I mean deep, trouble.
I am sorry to say it. But if you are a "regular" lower-middle-class individual, you have got to get your ass out of debt, and I mean QUICK! QUICK.
And stop accumulating more debt.
You get stuck.
And YOU will NOT (repeat: n o t) get a bail-out - but YOU will pay for others' bail-out.
This is NOT class warfare; this is reality.
Get smart, or tough, and I mean quick.
Let me guess... Military Contractor.
or.. surveillance equipment dealer.
"If you can't out wit them, report them till they're banned!"- PopinJ'
Funny should mention it because during the reign of Bush the Younger, government grants for surveillance to observe Americans has skyrocketed.
Now, the surveillance industry is a protected-government industry.
I do not even nknow what regular Americans do, anymore.
Get smart, or get tough, now.
You owe a lot of money.
Who do you think is paying for everything ? Y O U.
And you have a lot of I.O.U.s.
They live on hope, and hope alone. But wait... whats that headed this way? Oh, its disapointment.
"If you can't out wit them, report them till they're banned!"- PopinJ'
They live on hope, and hope alone. But wait... whats that headed this way? Oh, its disapointment.
Americans would be wise to be people, once again, of action.
When accosted by a lady asking, "what kind-of government did you create for us, Mr. Franklin?"
Benjamin Franklin's response, "a Republic if YOU can keep it."
We have to accept responsibility for ourselves to be responsible, and honorable, citizens. We all have the heart and stomach of a free citizen - and of a free American citizen, too.
If we fail, as a people, to participate fully in our own institutions, then we are to blame. We ought to embrace our liberty (not amend our state Constitutions to take-it-away). We ought to vote - always. We ought to write our members of Congress, for they work, literally, for us. We ought to pray for our nation. We ought to participate in our own institutions. We ought to volunteer at hospitals for our own citiznes.
Let's be Americans again. Let's learn to rely on each other, because if we do not, we have no one else to rely upon but one another.
President Bush, after 9/11, told us to shop. And I am telling YOU to fulfill YOUR destiny, not only for yourselves, but for your country and your children.
Let me guess... Military Contractor.
or.. surveillance equipment dealer.
Military Contractor and coincidentally, the work I do could be considered surveillance in a sense. Its sort of two fold. we supply maps to the military, and we collect "military points of interest"
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a robot foot stomping on a human face -- forever."
The reason I created this post was just to vent. It is really hard to admit how much these hard times hurt us. Pride keeps us from admitting most. We really dont know each other and it makes it easier to tell our story.
It is good to hear that some of us are not affected, but by listening to everyone, it gives us a more personal prospective on how each of us are trying to cope. We even find some solutions to our hurt.
This recession affects all of us from all over the world.
Thanks all for responding with honesty. We will survive, gamers always do.......
Well ive noticed that less people are willing to buy products that i sell, unless it's to do with making money. People are so desperate to make money because they are losing their jobs that its a vulture fest out there in the intarwebz.
Best. Free MMORPG. Ever.
Let me guess... Military Contractor.
or.. surveillance equipment dealer.
Military Contractor and coincidentally, the work I do could be considered surveillance in a sense. Its sort of two fold. we supply maps to the military, and we collect "military points of interest"
Guess I called it. Well it wasn't difficult to guess. The government is going to be relying on those "points of interest" (aka locations of potential resisters) as the velvet glove comes off of the iron fist in coming months.
"If you can't out wit them, report them till they're banned!"- PopinJ'
They live on hope, and hope alone. But wait... whats that headed this way? Oh, its disapointment.
Americans would be wise to be people, once again, of action.
When accosted by a lady asking, "what kind-of government did you create for us, Mr. Franklin?"
Benjamin Franklin's response, "a Republic if YOU can keep it."
We have to accept responsibility for ourselves to be responsible, and honorable, citizens. We all have the heart and stomach of a free citizen - and of a free American citizen, too.
If we fail, as a people, to participate fully in our own institutions, then we are to blame. We ought to embrace our liberty (not amend our state Constitutions to take-it-away). We ought to vote - always. We ought to write our members of Congress, for they work, literally, for us. We ought to pray for our nation. We ought to participate in our own institutions. We ought to volunteer at hospitals for our own citiznes.
Let's be Americans again. Let's learn to rely on each other, because if we do not, we have no one else to rely upon but one another.
President Bush, after 9/11, told us to shop. And I am telling YOU to fulfill YOUR destiny, not only for yourselves, but for your country and your children.
American's don't know responsibility anymore. And we're sure not teaching it to our children either.
I can speak from first hand experience from both. I am a teacher. I see irresponsible parents and irresponsible children that picked that quality up from those parents. And it isn't just a few or a minority, it's a most of the kids these days. We're in big trouble. Believe me.
This is not an attack against you as I am sure there are some exceptions, but the problem is government education. Transfer of stupidity at its finest.
my bro had his hours cut and he decided to move to another area where they were needing people in his field (Flabotomist)(sp?). My dad hasnt felt any heat, he is in the union and works as an electrician at a nuclear power plant ... one that is recruiting due to the aging baby boomer work force. Dunno about my sister, haven't talked to her ina while. My mum is fine as well, nothing has changed with her.
The only thing that really stands out is everyone at my work have just about lost most/half of their 201k's (thats what they call em as a joke).
Playing: EVE Online
Favorite MMOs: WoW, SWG Pre-cu, Lineage 2, UO, EQ, EVE online
Looking forward to: Archeage, Kingdom Under Fire 2
KUF2's Official Website - http://www.kufii.com/ENG/ -
They live on hope, and hope alone. But wait... whats that headed this way? Oh, its disapointment.
Americans would be wise to be people, once again, of action.
When accosted by a lady asking, "what kind-of government did you create for us, Mr. Franklin?"
Benjamin Franklin's response, "a Republic if YOU can keep it."
We have to accept responsibility for ourselves to be responsible, and honorable, citizens. We all have the heart and stomach of a free citizen - and of a free American citizen, too.
If we fail, as a people, to participate fully in our own institutions, then we are to blame. We ought to embrace our liberty (not amend our state Constitutions to take-it-away). We ought to vote - always. We ought to write our members of Congress, for they work, literally, for us. We ought to pray for our nation. We ought to participate in our own institutions. We ought to volunteer at hospitals for our own citiznes.
Let's be Americans again. Let's learn to rely on each other, because if we do not, we have no one else to rely upon but one another.
President Bush, after 9/11, told us to shop. And I am telling YOU to fulfill YOUR destiny, not only for yourselves, but for your country and your children.
American's don't know responsibility anymore. And we're sure not teaching it to our children either.
I can speak from first hand experience from both. I am a teacher. I see irresponsible parents and irresponsible children that picked that quality up from those parents. And it isn't just a few or a minority, it's a most of the kids these days. We're in big trouble. Believe me.
You are so right, Ock. Here is an example:
Every Christmas my ex wife used to shower our kids with presents when they were younger. I mean expensive ones at that. When the PS3 first came out and they were practically unavailable for purchase during Christmas, she went on Ebay and bought on for 1500.00, because the kids wanted it. They got anywhere between 17 and 20 gifts each, there are three of them. I have watched them just tear into each present and throw it aside and go to the next. No thank you's or show of appreciation.
On my oldest sons 16th birthday, she goes out and buys him a 24 thousand dollar SUV and just gave it to him.
Yes, I was pissed. I believe you need to work for what you get because you appreciate it more. When you grow up, you have PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. No handouts, you believe you have to work for it.