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When they reopen the servers up and start to sell the game again, jsut make a new EU server. That way all the people who have been held back can play on the new server with a nice fresh start without cities already built etc. Also thoes who feel they were cheated out of playing time etc ont he old server have the option to move to the new one. I believe almost all the people would move to the new one unless they used this exploit to build a city.
Also whats with being able to make a City in 1 day? Knowone else finding that pretty retarded? I didnt read much into how much it would cost or how long it would take to build a city... but 1 day? lol i believe 35k gold is the amout to make one? maybe be totaly wrong but thats what i hear and there are mobs dropping over 100gold pretty near the start aswell i heard? In UO i think the smallest little hut was what 45k gold and a tower like 500k? and new mobs dropped 15g? A whole city for 35k and gettign 10x more gold from each mob makes it a bit too easy i feel.
Anyway jsut my thoughts.
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me likey but it's 10k for a city.
I was pretty shocked to read that there were so many cities build already yesterday.
And the server hasn't even been up that much either nor most people even been able to log in.
I am curious about what Aventurine is going to do about these exploiters. ...........guess nothing.
It's 10k to claim a city location... Building one is a few thousand times more difficult.
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ok even if the 10k is still only a city location, with low lvl mobs dropping 100+g it should be more like a million gold for a location, these are ment to be guild towns that you defend and protect with your lives, not somehting you build after each guild member kills 20mobs and you all go. Oh hey look we have enough for another city.
Nobody,built a city yesterday,but they did claim the land to build one
No one has built a city yet.
Only one was remotly close to being called a city in beta and that took awhile to get there.
You can just claim city locations which is what they have done.
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you guys are so damn retarted there was no citys built there where how evers clans that bought city stones i can almost gareinty that if you go to there city stone you will find no buildings
non so stop saying citys where built there was no building only buying of the stone sigh
How do you know they're exploiting titty?
I aren't going to say what has or hasn't happened because like most people I just don't know. What if by 'built a city' that just means they have claimed a cityspot? And that just costs money right? I made over 500g yesterday and it was the first time I'd ever played. People with a couple of months beta experience, in a guild with 20+ managing to get in in the first day could easily pull together and get a whole lot of gold together.
so what? After one day (not even) 13 city stones were bought?
That seems pretty fast.
yeah, alot of them are claiming their location.
Quite a few of the guilds coming to this game, including my own, have lcoations that they want for their cities.
That means the main goal of their members right now is to make gold and give it to the guild.
Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.
Well, a bunch of people could get together and go and grief some of those site claimers while they are trying to gather their materials.
Two out of three posters here don't have the slightest clue of what they are saying, yet they are falsely saying it anyway.
First off the game servers were up all damn day yesterday. As in i logged in when I got up before work yesterday, I left it up while I went to work and when I got home from work it was still up and I then continued playing for another 4 hrs. I would say that the servers were up for a good amount of time. Second, it doesn't cost 35k Gold to start a city. Third, there aren't mobs nearby the starting towns that drop 100 gold. Fourth, there are several repeatable quest that do give any where from 100 to 300+ gold/hour each time you do them.
Starting a city in DF is no where near a whole town, it will cost 1000's and 1000's to complete the whole town.Take a group of 10 guys, go to the repeatable quest that gives a minimum of 300 gold each time you do it. That's 3k gold a hour. As I already pointed out above the servers were up well over a hour. Most of the guilds that do have their city already have well over 10 people, so lets take it up to 20, that's 6k a hour, 30? 9k a hour....etc. It's really not that big of a deal, they don't have walls, they don't have guards, they haven't build the items to hold off sieges. If you want a city you still have plenty of time to take a free one or a taken one if you can muster the force to do it.
Just cant quite believe that from the sounds of it, even without an exploit it seems that a guild can buy a city location by killing mobs at such a low level. Buying a city location within the first few hours of an MMO release is crazy lol.
no idea what economics of the game are going to be like, think how much spare gold everyone is going to have jsut sitting around when they get to high levels. oh look i have 2 millions gold shall i go buy 200more city locations?
aka you were macroing?
edit: 80% of the clans that were formed have been exploiting...it's pretty obvious
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I think there is around 75 city locations if you count hamlets ? Anyhow I agree I would have liked to see buying the stones and claiming a plot a bit farther into things however it not that big of a deal. They will change hands and from all I can gather the time invested into a city is more into building the city it's self not claiming it. Gathering resources building and also gold for each step.
Was I? what makes you think that? I left the game up and running while standing near the bank in newbie town to see if it would still be up when I returned.
What in your mind makes you think people are exploiting anything? Have you seen anyone? My clan was made yesterday, not one person exploited, We had 10-15 people on through out the day, any gold gathered went to the clan fund until we could afford to make the clan. It took less then 2 hours. You can make 200-300 gold per hour at the newbie goblins if you wanted to kill them nonstop. Going outside the newbie area where it is less crowded you can make more.
Just because you don't know the game, doesn't mean people that do are exploiting it. However, it does mean that making the statements you are means your ignorant.
FYI, there aren't levels in the game, so there aren't low level and high level mobs or low level and high level players. There might be easier to kill mobs, these drop like 5-10 gold each, not 100 or close to 100 like people who don't know keep saying. The mobs that are killable for a repeatable quest aren't at all easy to kill, but a full group can do it.
First off you are basing your view off other games where everyone starts at level 1 and can only kill creatures that give coppers, even if they form groups
Secondly there is a limited amount of city locations (I heard 97 but don't quote me on that as I don't know where I heard it), so obviously there won't be anyone going and buying 200 city locations.
What there will be is guilds fighting for the limited resource of city locations, which is what is meant to happen.
Gold is easy to get buy because it's so damn easy to lose everything you have and so what if you can claim a city so early in the game, you can lose it as fast also so early in the game.
And why shouldn't 30-40 players in a guild be able to claim/defend and build their citiy faster then a guild with under 10 players.
Sure go claim 200 more city locations, but can you defend them? it's so easy to lose it and having 200 city locations is a very dumb thing to do because if your guild attacks another guild all the other guys have to do is capture one of your many UNDEFENDED locations and they win the challnge.
when i say level i dotn mean it in the strict terms of, your level 1 im level 24 im better than you. i mean it in low level stuff has lower HP lower DMG lower amouts of loot. low level to me means 1xgm and high level means 7xgm i am a UOer not a new school mmo'er
Gold is easy to get buy because it's so damn easy to lose everything you have and so what if you can claim a city so early in the game, you can lose it as fast also so early in the game.
And why shouldn't 30-40 players in a guild be able to claim/defend and build their citiy faster then a guild with under 10 players.
Sure go claim 200 more city locations, but can you defend them? it's so easy to lose it and having 200 city locations is a very dumb thing to do because if your guild attacks another guild all the other guys have to do is capture one of your many UNDEFENDED locations and they win the challnge.
what i was saying wasnt literal lol, i was simply saying fromw aht i have seen and heard the economy doesnt seem rite atm
and they do have lower amounts of HP, lower amounts of loot and do less damage. Although if you went to some of the places that people are hunting in full groups solo, you'd be killed in less then 10 seconds. That's the cool thing about the spell system, you can dodge the mobs spells as well as players. You dodge their spells and while it is attacking you, your group is attacking it from behind doing higher damage. When it turns to go after them then you get to shoot it in the back....
What you've heard is a bunch of ignorant people screem and hollar EXPLOITS! HACKS! doesn't mean the are right. If you weren't in beta or were and didn't figure out much, then what you've seen also doesn't mean much just yet as you've seen less then 1%.
you dont quite get what im saying do you? the fact that your telling me people are buying city locations without using exploits already is even worse lol. a city location should be alot harder to come by. owning a guild city when knowone has even got 1 skill high yet seems pretty crazy.
x-lord, did you play on the Europe shard in UO?