Title says it all really, I never followed those 2 games but can someone fill me in on what happened with both games so I can understand why everyone is comparing them to Darkfall?
oh god mourning i got into beta for that and actually pre ordered tho i cancelled befroe they took any cash..
sounded really good and screeneis looked good, but the game did not play at all.. so many bugs never got to release.
As for DnL a really good idea, company behind it was not the best had major legal issues with the tree software they used so they got sued over that.. many other isseus too.
" The game's forum was extremely heavily moderated and had a high turn around of staff leading to many "Gung-Ho" moderators that blocked any criticisms of the game.
Silenced users found other forums to spill into with many migrating to the mmorpg.com forum and using it as a chance to warn others off the game. Prior to Farlan admitting the true reasons for the games failure many fans of the game and 'Vuuar' accused hateful gamers of ruining the game by generating such bad publicity that supply of new users dried up."
Funnily enough much the same happened with AoC and VG. In DF's case they have taken the forums offline (for now) but before they did threads where being deleted left right and cente.
They are the two main reasons why some people are sceptical towards Darkfall, people with experience that has seen these kind of releases several times before. Now... Experienced games with some scepticism are what you call "trolls" and "haters" and put in the same bunch of people that just make oneliner posts screamng "Fail LOL"
If you do not know anything about DnL or Mourning... Then I can understand you could fall for Darkfall like a ton of bricks, your experience level lacking in the extreme and fancy talk will hook you easilly. Problem that has been here for the last year though, is that the fan bois that have no experience of those games, think they can come here and abuse those that know these things, and have some right to call others names that have seen this kind of mess so many times before.
I have said this several times int hepast. No more namecalling and craptalk. Release this bugger. Release Darkfall, then I want to see you peope play it for two-three months, THEN come back here to mmorpg.com and try to tell ANYONE here that they have no clue what they talk about.
"This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly. It should be thrown with great force"
Title says it all really, I never followed those 2 games but can someone fill me in on what happened with both games so I can understand why everyone is comparing them to Darkfall?
Well the reason is because they hope it will fail like those 2 games. But it will not. The game isnt for everyone thats for sure. But probably the people who liked UO , Shadowbane , AoC , Asherons call(s) and quite possibly eq and eq2 fans, also people from DAoC's FFA server. Once those people get to try it this game will have even more solid players / fans.
Mourning-who cares never even wanted to play. Dark and Light I was signed up for the Beta but saw the writing on the wall and never fell for it, it was a scam game.
Title says it all really, I never followed those 2 games but can someone fill me in on what happened with both games so I can understand why everyone is comparing them to Darkfall?
Welcome to MMORPG. Lots of people here will say anything to discredit Darkfall. Many call this the dregs of the MMO world.
Well the reason is because they hope it will fail like those 2 games. But it will not. The game isnt for everyone thats for sure. But probably the people who liked UO , Shadowbane , AoC , Asherons call(s) and quite possibly eq and eq2 fans, also people from DAoC's FFA server. Once those people get to try it this game will have even more solid players / fans. Mourning-who cares never even wanted to play. Dark and Light I was signed up for the Beta but saw the writing on the wall and never fell for it, it was a scam game.
I enjoyed all those games. In particular DAoC, AC(darktide of course), UO (the grandady) EQ2 (level locked pvp was a blast). Sadly (imho) DF feels charmless (and pointless) in comparison to those games. In DF all roads simly leed to the gank those games had other stuff to do and so the gank had some sort of point.
Well the reason is because they hope it will fail like those 2 games. But it will not. The game isnt for everyone thats for sure. But probably the people who liked UO , Shadowbane , AoC , Asherons call(s) and quite possibly eq and eq2 fans, also people from DAoC's FFA server. Once those people get to try it this game will have even more solid players / fans. Mourning-who cares never even wanted to play. Dark and Light I was signed up for the Beta but saw the writing on the wall and never fell for it, it was a scam game.
I enjoyed all those games. In particular DAoC, AC(darktide of course), UO (the grandady) EQ2 (level locked pvp was a blast). Sadly (imho) DF feels charmless (and pointless) in comparison to those games. In DF all roads simly leed to the gank those games had other stuff to do and so the gank had some sort of p
That is your opinion and I will not argue with it because its senseless.However I will say this , only the inexperienced were at the starting areas ganking, the serious guilds / players were out farming for their guild and capturing cities and forming powerful alliances with which to guard their cities and take the cities of their enemies if pushed into conquest. There is way more to it than stated.
Title says it all really, I never followed those 2 games but can someone fill me in on what happened with both games so I can understand why everyone is comparing them to Darkfall?
Well the reason is because they hope it will fail like those 2 games. But it will not. The game isnt for everyone thats for sure. But probably the people who liked UO , Shadowbane , AoC , Asherons call(s) and quite possibly eq and eq2 fans, also people from DAoC's FFA server. Once those people get to try it this game will have even more solid players / fans.
Mourning-who cares never even wanted to play. Dark and Light I was signed up for the Beta but saw the writing on the wall and never fell for it, it was a scam game.
I played most of them games you are talking about UO..EQ1 FFA..DAOC...SWG..EQ2 but i think DF is a heap of crap waiting to fail. It's not just the game but the devs and the way they have handled themselves over the last 8 years,it's pathetic.
You are deluding yourself if you think that fans of these other games will suddenly all flock to DF. All of them games had more to offer than DF in it's current form. Stop day dreaming and deluding yourself in to thinking that DF is any better than DnL.
Title says it all really, I never followed those 2 games but can someone fill me in on what happened with both games so I can understand why everyone is comparing them to Darkfall?
Well the reason is because they hope it will fail like those 2 games. But it will not. The game isnt for everyone thats for sure. But probably the people who liked UO , Shadowbane , AoC , Asherons call(s) and quite possibly eq and eq2 fans, also people from DAoC's FFA server. Once those people get to try it this game will have even more solid players / fans.
Mourning-who cares never even wanted to play. Dark and Light I was signed up for the Beta but saw the writing on the wall and never fell for it, it was a scam game.
I played most of them games you are talking about UO..EQ1 FFA..DAOC...SWG..EQ2 but i think DF is a heap of crap waiting to fail. It's not just the game but the devs and the way they have handled themselves over the last 8 years,it's pathetic.
You are deluding yourself if you think that fans of these other games will suddenly all flock to DF. All of them games had more to offer than DF in it's current form. Stop day dreaming and deluding yourself in to thinking that DF is any better than DnL.
Haha atleast you are admitting that you want it to fail. And your reason? Oh yes the vague "The devs handled themselves badly over EIGHT YEARS" (even though you have been following it for less than 2? 1?) All them games have better stoofs than Darkfall hu? So you have played right? No? Ah ok.
Title says it all really, I never followed those 2 games but can someone fill me in on what happened with both games so I can understand why everyone is comparing them to Darkfall?
Well the reason is because they hope it will fail like those 2 games. But it will not. The game isnt for everyone thats for sure. But probably the people who liked UO , Shadowbane , AoC , Asherons call(s) and quite possibly eq and eq2 fans, also people from DAoC's FFA server. Once those people get to try it this game will have even more solid players / fans.
Mourning-who cares never even wanted to play. Dark and Light I was signed up for the Beta but saw the writing on the wall and never fell for it, it was a scam game.
I played most of them games you are talking about UO..EQ1 FFA..DAOC...SWG..EQ2 but i think DF is a heap of crap waiting to fail. It's not just the game but the devs and the way they have handled themselves over the last 8 years,it's pathetic.
You are deluding yourself if you think that fans of these other games will suddenly all flock to DF. All of them games had more to offer than DF in it's current form. Stop day dreaming and deluding yourself in to thinking that DF is a better than DnL
ok you seem to have gotten ahead of yourself, I did not understand exactly what you wrote. You see I searched the rosetta stone website from front to back. Sadly , I found they have no launguage software to learn jacktard , so gl with that.
Mourning-who cares never even wanted to play. Dark and Light I was signed up for the Beta but saw the writing on the wall and never fell for it, it was a scam game.
both Mourning and DnL were copies of what Darkfall wanted to be in terms of gameplay...
They were both Hardcore PvP games... skill based and seemingly offered the world...
Both failed just like Darkfall is about to. if it hasn't already..
Darkfall is no better than what Dark and light was in terms of quality and features etc..
Mourning failed because of gross mismanagement by its project manager and launching far far too early to most likely try and raise funds (just like Darkfall is doing right now)
Title says it all really, I never followed those 2 games but can someone fill me in on what happened with both games so I can understand why everyone is comparing them to Darkfall?
Well the reason is because they hope it will fail like those 2 games. But it will not. The game isnt for everyone thats for sure. But probably the people who liked UO , Shadowbane , AoC , Asherons call(s) and quite possibly eq and eq2 fans, also people from DAoC's FFA server. Once those people get to try it this game will have even more solid players / fans.
Mourning-who cares never even wanted to play. Dark and Light I was signed up for the Beta but saw the writing on the wall and never fell for it, it was a scam game.
Played about half those games and no real interest in "Darkfall the reality" nor have most of the people I know from those games (and majority are pvpers)
Now if DF was what it was advertising on it's website (basiclly an updated UO without many of the mistakes uo made) what you say would be true but reality is DF is little more than a gank fest
I need a new MMO world to call home as Tom Chilton keeps destroying them
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It would take a long time to tell you what happened with DnL, man, forever.
I can't imagine any game release being as bad top to bottom as DnL.
oh god mourning i got into beta for that and actually pre ordered tho i cancelled befroe they took any cash..
sounded really good and screeneis looked good, but the game did not play at all.. so many bugs never got to release.
As for DnL a really good idea, company behind it was not the best had major legal issues with the tree software they used so they got sued over that.. many other isseus too.
http://www.darkandlight.com/en/
" The game's forum was extremely heavily moderated and had a high turn around of staff leading to many "Gung-Ho" moderators that blocked any criticisms of the game.
Silenced users found other forums to spill into with many migrating to the mmorpg.com forum and using it as a chance to warn others off the game. Prior to Farlan admitting the true reasons for the games failure many fans of the game and 'Vuuar' accused hateful gamers of ruining the game by generating such bad publicity that supply of new users dried up."
Funnily enough much the same happened with AoC and VG. In DF's case they have taken the forums offline (for now) but before they did threads where being deleted left right and cente.
They are the two main reasons why some people are sceptical towards Darkfall, people with experience that has seen these kind of releases several times before. Now... Experienced games with some scepticism are what you call "trolls" and "haters" and put in the same bunch of people that just make oneliner posts screamng "Fail LOL"
If you do not know anything about DnL or Mourning... Then I can understand you could fall for Darkfall like a ton of bricks, your experience level lacking in the extreme and fancy talk will hook you easilly. Problem that has been here for the last year though, is that the fan bois that have no experience of those games, think they can come here and abuse those that know these things, and have some right to call others names that have seen this kind of mess so many times before.
I have said this several times int hepast. No more namecalling and craptalk. Release this bugger. Release Darkfall, then I want to see you peope play it for two-three months, THEN come back here to mmorpg.com and try to tell ANYONE here that they have no clue what they talk about.
"This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly.
It should be thrown with great force"
Well the reason is because they hope it will fail like those 2 games. But it will not. The game isnt for everyone thats for sure. But probably the people who liked UO , Shadowbane , AoC , Asherons call(s) and quite possibly eq and eq2 fans, also people from DAoC's FFA server. Once those people get to try it this game will have even more solid players / fans.
Mourning-who cares never even wanted to play. Dark and Light I was signed up for the Beta but saw the writing on the wall and never fell for it, it was a scam game.
Welcome to MMORPG. Lots of people here will say anything to discredit Darkfall. Many call this the dregs of the MMO world.
I enjoyed all those games. In particular DAoC, AC(darktide of course), UO (the grandady) EQ2 (level locked pvp was a blast). Sadly (imho) DF feels charmless (and pointless) in comparison to those games. In DF all roads simly leed to the gank those games had other stuff to do and so the gank had some sort of point.
After a long long time investigating the issue i can confirm: Settlers of Ganareth is not Dark & Light. Enjoy.
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I enjoyed all those games. In particular DAoC, AC(darktide of course), UO (the grandady) EQ2 (level locked pvp was a blast). Sadly (imho) DF feels charmless (and pointless) in comparison to those games. In DF all roads simly leed to the gank those games had other stuff to do and so the gank had some sort of p
That is your opinion and I will not argue with it because its senseless.However I will say this , only the inexperienced were at the starting areas ganking, the serious guilds / players were out farming for their guild and capturing cities and forming powerful alliances with which to guard their cities and take the cities of their enemies if pushed into conquest. There is way more to it than stated.
check this out for mourning
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/37720
Well the reason is because they hope it will fail like those 2 games. But it will not. The game isnt for everyone thats for sure. But probably the people who liked UO , Shadowbane , AoC , Asherons call(s) and quite possibly eq and eq2 fans, also people from DAoC's FFA server. Once those people get to try it this game will have even more solid players / fans.
Mourning-who cares never even wanted to play. Dark and Light I was signed up for the Beta but saw the writing on the wall and never fell for it, it was a scam game.
I played most of them games you are talking about UO..EQ1 FFA..DAOC...SWG..EQ2 but i think DF is a heap of crap waiting to fail. It's not just the game but the devs and the way they have handled themselves over the last 8 years,it's pathetic.
You are deluding yourself if you think that fans of these other games will suddenly all flock to DF. All of them games had more to offer than DF in it's current form. Stop day dreaming and deluding yourself in to thinking that DF is any better than DnL.
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heard whispers of this game but was never inclined to even go to the webpage.
LOL, it's ground hog day all over again...
Jah Rasta For I.
The Wicked Shall Fall..
http://www.ethnic2020.com/images/Ebay/black-jesus.jpg
Well the reason is because they hope it will fail like those 2 games. But it will not. The game isnt for everyone thats for sure. But probably the people who liked UO , Shadowbane , AoC , Asherons call(s) and quite possibly eq and eq2 fans, also people from DAoC's FFA server. Once those people get to try it this game will have even more solid players / fans.
Mourning-who cares never even wanted to play. Dark and Light I was signed up for the Beta but saw the writing on the wall and never fell for it, it was a scam game.
I played most of them games you are talking about UO..EQ1 FFA..DAOC...SWG..EQ2 but i think DF is a heap of crap waiting to fail. It's not just the game but the devs and the way they have handled themselves over the last 8 years,it's pathetic.
You are deluding yourself if you think that fans of these other games will suddenly all flock to DF. All of them games had more to offer than DF in it's current form. Stop day dreaming and deluding yourself in to thinking that DF is any better than DnL.
Haha atleast you are admitting that you want it to fail. And your reason? Oh yes the vague "The devs handled themselves badly over EIGHT YEARS" (even though you have been following it for less than 2? 1?) All them games have better stoofs than Darkfall hu? So you have played right? No? Ah ok.
Well the reason is because they hope it will fail like those 2 games. But it will not. The game isnt for everyone thats for sure. But probably the people who liked UO , Shadowbane , AoC , Asherons call(s) and quite possibly eq and eq2 fans, also people from DAoC's FFA server. Once those people get to try it this game will have even more solid players / fans.
Mourning-who cares never even wanted to play. Dark and Light I was signed up for the Beta but saw the writing on the wall and never fell for it, it was a scam game.
I played most of them games you are talking about UO..EQ1 FFA..DAOC...SWG..EQ2 but i think DF is a heap of crap waiting to fail. It's not just the game but the devs and the way they have handled themselves over the last 8 years,it's pathetic.
You are deluding yourself if you think that fans of these other games will suddenly all flock to DF. All of them games had more to offer than DF in it's current form. Stop day dreaming and deluding yourself in to thinking that DF is a better than DnL
ok you seem to have gotten ahead of yourself, I did not understand exactly what you wrote. You see I searched the rosetta stone website from front to back. Sadly , I found they have no launguage software to learn jacktard , so gl with that.
both Mourning and DnL were copies of what Darkfall wanted to be in terms of gameplay...
They were both Hardcore PvP games... skill based and seemingly offered the world...
Both failed just like Darkfall is about to. if it hasn't already..
Darkfall is no better than what Dark and light was in terms of quality and features etc..
Mourning failed because of gross mismanagement by its project manager and launching far far too early to most likely try and raise funds (just like Darkfall is doing right now)
DnL failed because basically the same shit...
Well the reason is because they hope it will fail like those 2 games. But it will not. The game isnt for everyone thats for sure. But probably the people who liked UO , Shadowbane , AoC , Asherons call(s) and quite possibly eq and eq2 fans, also people from DAoC's FFA server. Once those people get to try it this game will have even more solid players / fans.
Mourning-who cares never even wanted to play. Dark and Light I was signed up for the Beta but saw the writing on the wall and never fell for it, it was a scam game.
Played about half those games and no real interest in "Darkfall the reality" nor have most of the people I know from those games (and majority are pvpers)
Now if DF was what it was advertising on it's website (basiclly an updated UO without many of the mistakes uo made) what you say would be true but reality is DF is little more than a gank fest
I need a new MMO world to call home as Tom Chilton keeps destroying them