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The State of Darkfall 2-27-09

PEVEUSRAGEPEVEUSRAGE Member Posts: 20

There is no questioning the gameplay and promised content in Darkfall is a unique, enjoyable experience to a majority of the playerbase, and the developers devotion to the game is unparalleled.

However, what about efficiency?

Darkfall launched early morning EST on February 26th 2009.  The servers were coming up and down during this period, and were finally brought up for 11 hours straight at around 10-11am EST.

During this long period of server uptime, Darkfall players experienced these problems:

1) Mob desynchronization, with mobs rubberbanding back to locations or being invisible (nearly unplayable)

2) Some mobe AI turned completely "off," standing there taking hits and not attacking back

3) Player desynch, similar to the mob desynch.

4) Human bindstones caused "deadzones" or "blackholes" where if you entered the area or logged out, your character would cause you to crash upon login attempt.  Only bindstone that was reported to not cause this horrendous bug was "Chillborne."

(note: NONE of these bugs were noticeable in Beta.  They were very rare and nearly non-existent.  They cropped up during Launch builds)

 

 

Many guilds, such as Lords of Death, exploited the "zombie" mobs (such as minotaurs) that would not attack back.  Many of these mobs dropped 150+ gold a kill, and with this they were able to form their clan and capture a city, along with getting good armor and weapons.  Many of these mobs were reported to be in the Alfar zones.

Humans and Human-based clans were royally screwed over during this launch, and now many large clans are contemplating completely leaving this server when EU-2 is put up (which is still unknown).

Now, after 7 hours of maintenance, the server has come back online at 7:40 AM EST, and was taken down again at 8 AM.  

Synchronization seemed better, but still not 100%.  Mobs were still lagging a bit, and some players were warping for a few seconds, but a large improvement over last night.  No confirmation on the "zombie" mobs, however, being fixed.  I suppose they are though, as it is gamekilling.

 

Many are calling for a wipe of EU-1 due to the unfair exploiting advantages.  I believe the developers should do whatever they feel is right.  To please both parties and not punish those who at least attempted to get gold the legitimate way, they should give a date for EU-2 and make it a priority.  

 

 

Comments

  • trasttrast Member Posts: 33

    Awesome thread is awesome.

    Thanks for seeing a constuctive post atlast. Both good and bad news.

  • terafisterafis Member Posts: 84
    Originally posted by PEVEUSRAGE  

    No confirmation on the "zombie" mobs, however, being fixed.  I suppose they are though, as it is gamekilling.
     

     

    The 'zombie mobs' you describe are mobs with broken AI, exploitable AI, Aventurine was ntified of these all through beta by hundreds of bug feedback reports, threads polls, in-game footage examples, and they are still the same now as they were 2 months ago during beta.

     

    I wouldn't be too hopeful they will magically be able to fix these in 1 patch.

     

    And i agree, they are gamekilling, economoy killing bugs.

  • daemondaemon Member UncommonPosts: 680

    Looks like the game is still in early beta to me :(

  • strongaxestrongaxe Member Posts: 848

    Good post. Yeah in beta it would sometimes take them another patch to fix the sync issues on some people. 

  • strongaxestrongaxe Member Posts: 848
    Originally posted by terafis

    Originally posted by PEVEUSRAGE  

    No confirmation on the "zombie" mobs, however, being fixed.  I suppose they are though, as it is gamekilling.
     

     

    The 'zombie mobs' you describe are mobs with broken AI, exploitable AI, Aventurine was ntified of these all through beta by hundreds of bug feedback reports, threads polls, in-game footage examples, and they are still the same now as they were 2 months ago during beta.

     

    I wouldn't be too hopeful they will magically be able to fix these in 1 patch.

     

    And i agree, they are gamekilling, economoy killing bugs.

    No he is talking about mobs that were frozen. Mobs with exploitable pathing are a different issue. I believe the statue mobs were a sync issue.

  • XiskoXisko Member Posts: 50

    Paid closed beta i say.

  • PEVEUSRAGEPEVEUSRAGE Member Posts: 20
    Originally posted by terafis

    Originally posted by PEVEUSRAGE  

    No confirmation on the "zombie" mobs, however, being fixed.  I suppose they are though, as it is gamekilling.
     

     

    The 'zombie mobs' you describe are mobs with broken AI, exploitable AI, Aventurine was ntified of these all through beta by hundreds of bug feedback reports, threads polls, in-game footage examples, and they are still the same now as they were 2 months ago during beta.

     

    I wouldn't be too hopeful they will magically be able to fix these in 1 patch.

     

    And i agree, they are gamekilling, economoy killing bugs.

     

    You are partially correct.  However, I was in beta and did not discover so many of these mobs, nor did my clan or allied clans.  Many of these "zombie" mobs with dead AI showed up during launch.

  • Originally posted by daemon


    Looks like the game is still in early beta to me :(

     

    Hardly.

    Considering the vastness of the game i think a 4 bullet list of problems is actually VERY good they've already made strides to fixing the really big issue of desyncing and it can only get better. The monsters not working problem is again a small fix no doubt. I am however abit concerned about the "dead zones" problem.

  • Spaceweed10Spaceweed10 Member Posts: 625
    Originally posted by PEVEUSRAGE


    There is no questioning the gameplay and content in Darkfall is truly top-notch, and the developers devotion to the game is unparalleled.


     

     

    You lost my attention after that ridiculous opening.

  • RoYkORoYkO Member Posts: 67
    Originally posted by xTwiSteDx

    Originally posted by daemon


    Looks like the game is still in early beta to me :(

     

    Hardly.

    Considering the vastness of the game i think a 4 bullet list of problems is actually VERY good they've already made strides to fixing the really big issue of desyncing and it can only get better. The monsters not working problem is again a small fix no doubt. I am however abit concerned about the "dead zones" problem.

     

    Dude... all these bugs were already in beta or should i say alpha? since this is like beta now.  They had to pay bills so they released it without having fixed those beta problems.

  • PEVEUSRAGEPEVEUSRAGE Member Posts: 20
    Originally posted by Spaceweed10

    Originally posted by PEVEUSRAGE


    There is no questioning the gameplay and content in Darkfall is truly top-notch, and the developers devotion to the game is unparalleled.


     

     

    You lost my attention after that ridiculous opening.



    Let's not turn this into a troll thread, please.

    For PvPers, the gameplay is certainly fun and exciting, and there are many features to look forward to.  The developers are constantly at work trying their hardest to fix bugs.  For such a small team, the developers are doing a great job.  It is not their fault the account management team and superiors like Claus and Tasos screwed up big time.

  • EDIT: Deleted post since OP fixed the typo.

  • HellmoobHellmoob Member Posts: 96
    Originally posted by xTwiSteDx

    Originally posted by daemon


    Looks like the game is still in early beta to me :(

     

    Hardly.

    Considering the vastness of the game i think a 4 bullet list of problems is actually VERY good they've already made strides to fixing the really big issue of desyncing and it can only get better. The monsters not working problem is again a small fix no doubt. I am however abit concerned about the "dead zones" problem.

     

    4 bullet list of utterly gamebreaking problems. Otherwise, I'd agree with you. There are dozens of other features that still need improvement and proper implementation.

    19/02/2009 @11pm - "Your Darkfall preorder was successful!"
    26/02/2009 @11pm - "During the preorder of Darkfall, your credit card transacton failed."

    Ahh, classic Tasos!

  • poppetspoppets Member Posts: 93
    Originally posted by PEVEUSRAGE


    There is no questioning the gameplay and content in Darkfall is truly top-notch, and the developers devotion to the game is unparalleled.

    What content? There is no fucking content in this game. It's a huge empty featurelss world.

    Gameplay???  See above sentance.

    This game is nothing more than a functioning (???) combat system using horrid animations and a terrible crafting system.

     

  • Mr_HandMr_Hand Member Posts: 185

     

    Wait... did the OP say that Darkfall's FPS combat was top-notch ...?  

     

    It's absolutely the worst FPS game I've seen in years. The FoV is terrible, the motion and character movement is herrendous and the combat is VERY slow and tedious.

     

    How much is Aventurine paying all you people to come to all the forums and tell us (other beta testers) how awsome this game is..? People like you are a joke!  Just look at these forums, their a mess because the incompetency of Aventurine is now public and no amount of fanboi posting is going to hide how stupid this game has become..!

     

     

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  • DrazmicDrazmic Member Posts: 181

    This game is like any other pre-order BETA . limited pre-orders to get in beta before the real launch of the public. Downtime will always happen.

  • PEVEUSRAGEPEVEUSRAGE Member Posts: 20
    Originally posted by Mr_Hand


     
    Wait... did the OP say that Darkfall's FPS combat was top-notch ...?  
     
    It's absolutely the worst FPS game I've seen in years. The FoV is terrible, the motion and character movement is herrendous and the combat is VERY slow and tedious.
     
    How much is Aventurine paying all you people to come to all the forums and tell us (other beta testers) how awsome this game is..? People like you are a joke!  Just look at these forums, their a mess because the incompetency of Aventurine is now public and no amount of fanboi posting is going to hide how stupid this game has become..!
     
     

     

    I am not completely praising the game. Please take your troll comments elsewhere. It is pretty obvious that I am not a fanboi when I come here and put out gamebreaking problems so the community gets updated on the status of the game.

     

    The combat isn't an FPS. If you want an FPS go play Counter-Strike.  It is an MMORPG with twitch-based combat, and it works just as it is supposed to.  Do us a favor and play the game more than 5 minutes or watch a "Introduction" video on youtube of a noob using a leafblade and level 1 mana missiles against goblin mobs.

     

    Thank You.

  • VagelispVagelisp Member UncommonPosts: 448

    "(note: NONE of these bugs were noticeable in Beta. They were very rare and nearly non-existent. They cropped up during Launch builds)"

    Another reason to open the "gates" of a game before launch to as many players as possible. Now it's too late since many honest-legit players are paying for the progression of their characters. Maybe they open another fresh server soon, so some pissed players can move there (if they still have the courage after so many problems).

    Despite of Aventurine's good will, the game did not get the recognition it deserved. So many years of effort wasted in a couple of days.

     

  • SXRchosen1SXRchosen1 Member Posts: 179
    Originally posted by Mr_Hand


     
    Wait... did the OP say that Darkfall's FPS combat was top-notch ...?  
     
    It's absolutely the worst FPS game I've seen in years. The FoV is terrible, the motion and character movement is herrendous and the combat is VERY slow and tedious.
     
    How much is Aventurine paying all you people to come to all the forums and tell us (other beta testers) how awsome this game is..? People like you are a joke!  Just look at these forums, their a mess because the incompetency of Aventurine is now public and no amount of fanboi posting is going to hide how stupid this game has become..!
     
     

    Then go back to CS:source or 1.6 and use your aim hax to kill everyone, then your epeen will grow, and we can all go back to playing DF in peace.

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  • MordridMordrid Member Posts: 237

    OP, thanks for the rundown of the issues and your views of the game thus far. While I may be considered a "troll", I do have high hopes for this game and want to see the issues fixed. Please keep us informed of any fixes to the issues you noted if you see them put in place.

  • Mr_HandMr_Hand Member Posts: 185
    Originally posted by PEVEUSRAGE

    Originally posted by Mr_Hand


     
    Wait... did the OP say that Darkfall's FPS combat was top-notch ...?  
     
    It's absolutely the worst FPS game I've seen in years. The FoV is terrible, the motion and character movement is herrendous and the combat is VERY slow and tedious.
     
    How much is Aventurine paying all you people to come to all the forums and tell us (other beta testers) how awsome this game is..? People like you are a joke!  Just look at these forums, their a mess because the incompetency of Aventurine is now public and no amount of fanboi posting is going to hide how stupid this game has become..!
     
     

     

    I am not completely praising the game. Please take your troll comments elsewhere. It is pretty obvious that I am not a fanboi when I come here and put out gamebreaking problems so the community gets updated on the status of the game.

     

    The combat isn't an FPS. If you want an FPS go play Counter-Strike.  It is an MMORPG with twitch-based combat, and it works just as it is supposed to.  Do us a favor and play the game more than 5 minutes or watch a "Introduction" video on youtube of a noob using a leafblade and level 1 mana missiles against goblin mobs.

     

    Thank You.



     

    Sorry, Darkfall is not an MMORPG...!

    It offers nothing of what a traditional game in this genre's provides and almost every RPG element has been removed or rudementary implamented, just so Aventurine can claim they have it within their game (ie: Crafting, resource gathering, questing, Player housing, etc)

     

    All those ^^ elements are implamented as-if they were a second thought and most aren't even traditional roles and can just be macroed while you sleep. There is absolutly no PvE element about this game and many of us are still waiting for this fabled "MIRACLE PATCH" to release 90% of the game's content.

     

    Darkfall is nothing more than a simple Online FPS game and a very bad one at that ...!

     

     

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  • PEVEUSRAGEPEVEUSRAGE Member Posts: 20
    Originally posted by sabutai33

    Originally posted by PEVEUSRAGE


    There is no questioning the gameplay and content in Darkfall is truly top-notch, and the developers devotion to the game is unparalleled.(....) 



     

    Stopped reading after that comment, bias!

     

    Edited so retarded trolls such as the above poster will actually read the portion of my post that matters.

    You are the kind of person that reads the first sentence of a book and calls it utter garbage before even flipping over to the next page.

  • DrazmicDrazmic Member Posts: 181
    Originally posted by PEVEUSRAGE

    Originally posted by sabutai33

    Originally posted by PEVEUSRAGE


    There is no questioning the gameplay and content in Darkfall is truly top-notch, and the developers devotion to the game is unparalleled.(....) 



     

    Stopped reading after that comment, bias!

     

    Edited so retarded trolls such as the above poster will actually read the portion of my post that matters.

    You are the kind of person that reads the first sentence of a book and calls it utter garbage before even flipping over to the next page.

     

    agreed with OP

  • greeshagreesha Member Posts: 11
    Originally posted by poppets

    Originally posted by PEVEUSRAGE


    There is no questioning the gameplay and content in Darkfall is truly top-notch, and the developers devotion to the game is unparalleled.

    What content? There is no fucking content in this game. It's a huge empty featurelss world.

    Gameplay???  See above sentance.

    This game is nothing more than a functioning (???) combat system using horrid animations and a terrible crafting system.

     



     

    Hey poppets, I enjoyed reading your troll ooops I mean post history. Exactly who's payroll are you on?

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