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Serious Disadvantage?
Bloodelust
Member Posts: 5
By all accounts, people are macroing away skills day and night (when the servers are up). Leveled skills = much more powerful characters.
Guilds are nearing the amount of funds required to claim cities. No idea how well they can be fortified but IF they can... surely as days pass, the cities get stronger. Cities claimed. Cities fortified. Cities untakable.
A good number of the beta-testers were from guilds, like whole guilds. Full guilds are already locking down mob drops and equiping their players until the crafters get established which can't be long from what I'm reading and who I'm talking to.
Where does that leave the guilds and players who can't even purchase a released game maybe for weeks?
If Darkfall's goal was to create THE PvP game since UO, how is this start any representation that they can achieve this PvP masterpiece on a LEVEL playing field?
Bloode / Bloodelust
The Dark Arcane -Z-
Dreadlords of Shadowbane
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Easy answer, start on EU-2 when they open it............
make sense yet?
we kind of knew the first server would work like this....if you are looking for a more fair advantage play on the 2nd server they make cause there will be alot more people and macroers will be found easier and killed.
Well, there's probably 1,000 other topics that are saying the exact same thing as you. That's probably why there's all kinds of threads demanding for a server wipe, but then again, I don't know. Maybe that's just me speculating too much.
I don't think you brought any news to anyone's ears, tho.
They are allowing characters to transfer to American servers. So the land is free but the characters are skilled, geared and funded.
Bloode / Bloodelust
The Dark Arcane -Z-
Dreadlords of Shadowbane
You'll be one of those guys, so quick bitchin
Just as a general question -
Is macro'ing one of those things that make DF so hardcore?
Every hour the servers manage to stay up, reports of people leveling skills and gaining resources and/or progressing thru the game's content are disturbing. Before what MAY happen was speculation. Now it's confirmed to be a real problem.
Bloode / Bloodelust
The Dark Arcane -Z-
Dreadlords of Shadowbane
No you will not be at a serious disadvantage. Listen again: YOU WILL NOT BE AT A SERIOUS DISADVANTAGE. If you never macro you will still not be at a serious disadvantage. If you suck at the game you will be at a serious disadvantage though.
Walls take FOREVER to build. You can easily take cities from anyone for the first month if you are good. Not everythign can be macroed. Not even close.
As much as I was looking forward to playing on the Euro server at launch, I think I will wait until they get all of the game stopping issues and major bugs resolved while I wait for the NA server.....
Welcome to the next-gen, revolutionary sandbox MMO that'll knock your socks off.
Cry me a river.
Show me mmorpg where new character don't have disadvantage.
And people are macroing mana missile. The only spell that don't require any ingredients to cast. At level 1 dmg is around 10, on level 100 (at least 3 weeks of macroing) dmg is around 14. Stop crying and at least learn some game mechanics.
And if you enter now and some people will enter 2 weeks after then those people will be calling you exploiter and will be demanding server wipe.
God, so many spoiled kiddos around.
This is something that I have been complaining about since day one I got into beta, there is zero level playing field but you are likely to be stomped on by the swarm of grind fanbois that are both here and in forumfall.
This game is pretty badly imbalanced because no one can kill each other through skill they are cheating their way to the top and then buying or stealing the best gear they can and getting big two handed weapons which do the most damage, weapons don't have any other differences between them like they should hell they don't even have speed in properly even though they seem to have done some lazy tweaks.
All in all this has been a pathetic dissappointment for me, I honestly expected something like Age of Chivalry or Mount and Blade on steroids with full loot galore, the NPCs don't even drop everything thats on them like they said they would, you can fight goblins decked out in leather or mail and they won't even drop it.
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
I doubt you suck. How bout you make a vid where you don't have macros and you're fighting someone that does? Preferably one of your friends at your house or something so we can see his screen/setup. If I saw that then the argument could be put to rest. You won't have FPS problems with Fraps or any other recording program because Darkfall runs at 4512041809 FPS, right? Smooth as butter? So let's see it.
Sorry but there is no such thing as a level playing field in PVP MMOs, especially if FFA PVP is at stake....... The goal for many players in this environment is to cheat, steal, macro, script, exploit, and whatever other means they can find to get an advantage.......The average player has no chance in a game like this unless you get lucky enough to get into one of these guilds......
Darkfall: Game of the Masochist. As evidenced by this guy here. "I'm going to get pwned all the time AND I LIKE IT!"
You simply suck at this game. I was fighing mainly with noob weapon for 3 weeks and some random armour I found and I was doing fine. This is a gme when you can actually kill veteran if you have player skills.
" Sorry but there is no such thing as a level playing field in PVP MMOs, especially if FFA PVP is at stake....... The goal for many players in this environment is to cheat, steal, macro, script, exploit, and whatever other means they can find to get an advantage.......The average player has no chance in a game like this unless you get lucky enough to get into one of these guilds......"
You are thinking of these crappy stats based MMORPGs like WoW and Darkfall that are being churned out on the market, I don't even acknowledge these as RPGs, games like the Legend of Zelda and Baldurs Gate are the real RPGs not this grind based bullshit.
For the record, its not an MMORPG but I play Age of Chivalry a lot and it has some of the best and most realistic balance I have ever seen, weapons react exactly as they should and I believe it is far more in keeping with Darkfalls concept than Darkfall ever has been.
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
Learn the difference between asking a question and bitching.
And the REASON I ask this is because I was a member of Dreadlords in Shadowbane. When the expansion pack came out for Shadowbane and everyone was playing on Corruption, my guild had the entire server in an uproar. If you played that game, during that time, then you remember we controlled the new expansion land which had the higher level mobs to level the +10 to the level cap. We grabbed it first, we leveled first and we slaughtered anyone who came there. Less than 1% of the entire server population locked down a paid environment and players were demanding their money back and cursing my guild to hell.
Now that was a major disadvantage and why I asked. No QQ here.
Bloode / Bloodelust
The Dark Arcane -Z-
Dreadlords of Shadowbane
Isn't that true for every game?
DF strikes me as the kind of game where, if your character's skills are not up to snuff, you'll be at a disadvantage UNLESS there's a constant and sizable influx of new players. Since the game isn't linear in the traditional sense (it IS linear, but not stricly so), wouldn't a "newb" have issues getting into guilds if those guilds have been around?
Darkfall: Game of the Masochist. As evidenced by this guy here. "I'm going to get pwned all the time AND I LIKE IT!"
Show me mmorpg where 2 newly created chars was able to easily kill 1 month old toon. I done it many times alone or with friend.
So you are saying that 30-50 points of skill aren't a serious advantage?
That's the difference between macroing all night and not. 30-50 skill points.
You are right though... not EVERYTHING can be macroed. Quite a bit of it can be though.
While the official forums were up, I saw a post in which someone asked about character transfers. One of the mods responded and identified that if character transfers are allowed to a new server, the characters will be transferred, but none of the equipment or gold will be. They would have their skills, but they would start with the same equipment as a new player.
You are a hardcore PVP for godssake, stop whining and kill them all!
Darkfall: Game of the Masochist. As evidenced by this guy here. "I'm going to get pwned all the time AND I LIKE IT!"
Show me mmorpg where 2 newly created chars was able to easily kill 1 month old toon. I done it many times alone or with friend.
Uh, so make a vid and put it on Youtube? Back up your bullshit.
Haha you must be some sort of lazy sack. You just described real life. Either bend over and let them have their way, or pick up a sword and carve a path.