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Doomsayers (I was one of them)
Avathos
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Like many other people, I was once a playerhater/doomsayer. If something affected my gaming experience I tend retaliate by posting negative feedback and whinning.
I have to admit that WAR is far from perfect, but IMO the game has a lot of good things to offers.In terms of PvP endgame I think the game still growing and developing. City raids tend to be repetitive, but nevertheless when you enter an instance that is balanced be ready for the fight of your life. Pushing or defending I always have a lot of fun.
The Dev team continues to work pretty hard to maintain class balance, improve the crafting system and PvE experience gaming experience.
So what now? Is there hope for WAR?
I think it is. I can assure that most of the doomsayers currently posting similar stuff to ones you are about to read but in reality they are not being true with themself. Their agenda is like mine was. Retaliate for their failure. Here are the some excuses I have noticed:
1- The game is dead. No one is on my server. This basically translate to: The other side has side more players than we do. We getting rolled. No one plays with me because first I am not social and second my play style just gets me killed.
2-The game is soo unbalanced. This basically translate to: I am getting constantly killed by commititng the same mistakes.
For example: I am melee dps I am supposed to kill squishies. NOT WHEN THAT SQUISHIE IS BEING HEALED.
I am tank I am not supposed to die. NOT WHEN YOU GETTIGN NUKED TO DEATH.
I cant take such and such 1 v 1. Not when that guys has 10 more RR than you and is fully invader / dark promised while you are sentinel / annihilator.
3- There is nothing to do on this game. We tend to forget quickly that awesome games such as WoW, EQ-2 and many other mothern MMO had similar problems. Everyone rushes to max level, then complain to there is nothing to do. I am convienced that almost every single MMO out there had similar issues. The good thing is that Mythic is acting on it.
4- No one listen to me. My class sucks. Nerf these guys. We cannot deny that in game that you have 4 archtypes split up in 24 classes there is always going to be a balance issue. The only way this will work if the devs make exact mirror copies of each class. Still this does not fix issues like Tank vs Caster, Healer vs DPS. WAR is not a game where you have colored keyboard that says: If the enemy presses the blue button.. press the red button to counteract. Doesnt work that way. Realize that some classes will be challenge while others will be equal or easier. Before flaming, ensure that you understand your role and you enemy. Mdps should kill Rdps if it manages to get close enough. A healer should able to heal most of the damage taken. Some 2 v 2 comnation are better than others. LAST, your class may be good in PvE but in PvP it may not be as good. Adapt and overcome
I was once a Doomsayer/Playerhater and I said things like the ones you see on these forums. WAR / WOW / EQ-2 / DFO all this games have their pros and their cons. If you are interrested try the game (pm for a free trial) and decide for yourself if the game has potential or not, but before you make final decision...... Ask to yourself? Are you a doomsayer/playerheater
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edit to point 4: this game is not balanced for 1vs1, but for RvR.
it all appends on how you play.
some ppl say AM is UP. then i saw a AM top dps and top healing in an sc.
other ppl say WP is OP. well i can kill tehm easy with my WE and i overheal them with my RP.
its all about theh skillz
LOL is this for real? If my server pop says low/low then it is. If playing a certain class gives guaranteed kills no matter what your skill or the other person's skill, then it's OPed. Server transfers and nerfs to classes prove that Mythic agrees. And I love the game! Devs need proper feedback to keep improving the game not garbage spouted at them!
WP/DoK are superior to Ranged healers thanks to the AoE heals and their surviv makes them better for keeps and scens (like the Twister tower walls which makes single target healing very hard).
AMs did it get buff with their taunts but i think it was more of mistake (they forgot to scale down the morale) than a buff.
1. The game is dead. No one is on my server. Well there is a reason why server goes from High/High to Low/Low in 4-6 weeks. You can draw your own conclusions there.
2. The game is unbalanced. Granted. Most MMOs are unbalanced, balance is a continuous effort. But some classes in WAR are clearly OP, and some are distinctly UP.
3- There is nothing to do on this game. I agree with you on this. There are lots of things to do in WAR, definitely, just majority of them you have to in a group. You just can't solo them. WAR is meant for group play.
4- No one listen to me. My class sucks. Nerf these guys. Well this is personal problem, it has nothing to do with the game, it has everything to do with the individual.
But you forgot the one very thing that is destined to bring down this game. WAR rewards mobs rule. Skill play has no bearing in WAR, its all about having more players on your faction. The more players you have on your faction, you win, the less players, you lose, simple as that. All the factors above 1), 2), 3), 4) can all be attributed to mobs rule - zerg warfare. There is no balance, no variety, just pure zerg in WAR.
Warhammer is a good game.
It's probably the most balanced when it comes to fighting as a group. Yes each class has another class that will kill it every time no matter what, but its not a 1v1 game.
Nothing to do endgame, kinda. Depends on if your good enough/have the gear/in a decent guild to do lost vale.
The only major downfall of the game is the client lags horribly, it would be slightly forgivable if it looked awesome. But I have to admit it looks worse than wow. It goes as far as looking like a game running on dx6 at times.
To be honest, while 1.2 is good its pretty much worthless if your still getting 2-4 fps in a fortress fight, which is the main objective of the game.
Is WAR dying? kinda. Will it bounce back? If they fix the lag Warhammer will be awesome. If not, its just another mmo in the bargin bin along with the other failed releases over the last 2 years.
Best balanced game when fighting as a group does not belong to WAR! Sry, but that title can't be claimed by Mythic Yet.
Mythic is doing a great job in some ways and failing totally to adress others! While adressing 1vs1, there have been done absolutly nothing to change the unbalanced arctype situation in large and/or organised fights. (actual the last 1vs1 aproach on fixes had made that even worse). And being an RvR game they have let a big part of the players down, be excluding them from contributing with anything meaningfull in large areas of them game!
Best balanced game when fighting as a group does not belong to WAR! Sry, but that title can't be claimed by Mythic Yet.
Mythic is doing a great job in some ways and failing totally to adress others! While adressing 1vs1, there have been done absolutly nothing to change the unbalanced arctype situation in large and/or organised fights. (actual the last 1vs1 aproach on fixes had made that even worse). And being an RvR game they have let a big part of the players down, be excluding them from contributing with anything meaningfull in large areas of them game!
I'm not sure I understand your position on Mythic balancing careers for 1v1 at some point in the past or present. If you are alluding that they've done so, I disagree. I don't believe that Mythic has ever attempted to balance based on 1v1 play, nor do I hope they ever do.
I think that's one thing that consistently upsets some players - that the careers are not designed for dueling or 1v1 battles. Unfortunately, that's part of the core design. While balance is always an ongoing things, I believe that career balance has always been pretty good as it regards group play. Time will tell on the patch 1.2 changes, though.
Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.