The community is mostly what drove me away from the game. Pretty much the most immature gamers in any game. It doesn't matter if the people are age 10 or 50,it just seems like a disease,sooner or later most WoW players becomes asses.
The game has mostly turned me anti social...I could never ask any questions without getting at least 5-6 smart ass replies...if I was lucky I would have somebody answer me. I played the game since beta and it definitely wasn't always like this. In the beginning it was very pleasant.
Despite the horrible community the last nail in the coffin for me was Wrath of the Lich King,it was dreadfully easy...I don't find much enjoyment out of a game if you don't even have to try to earn epic gear. I'm not saying I'll never go back...but it wont be till next expansion at the earliest.
You should also put a group - Alien Haters. I used to be in a guild that raided kara and za alot. I didn't attend that much after I've experienced something that really bothered me much, they were the god damn kids around my age that were 15-21 in the guild or somewhat older, I couldn't tell. They just discriminate against any kind of people that aren't white. Sorry, people but i refer to them and no one else. But I'm serious about their racism comments. Not the whole guild, but just a group of 5-7 that I usually raid with in kara. Often, they say the N word when they are bored, not just once, you know how those racist that say those word multiple times, just pretend like a joke. And they laughed and kept telling stereotype jokes whenever someone brought up the N word.
The raid leader was not a racist tho, all he does is sit there and explain fights, manage time and what you call those... uhh Guild Points or whatever used to contribute and exchange for gears, At least, he seemed to be more educated, but he always kept silent when racist jokes started to come up. He and the other neutral guy were the only ones I talked to in vent.
So, I had enough and decided to tell the guild leader the problem, he didn't believe me. He was in the bt/sunwell raids so he didn't even bother caring about the low gear guildies. And by the way, this is a big guild, not some minor ones. It is a well-known one in the server Executus. The guild name is called Onslaught, I just couldn't forget the damn name, it's still in my head, their ways of speaking and stereotyping others.
When the leader didn't believe me, I just /gquit, /ignore him and all those racists that raided with me. I was also considered a girly-boy because I didn't talk much. You know why, all they talked/joked about were stereotype topics and gears. And those topics don't interest me. And it was a random guild that I found on guild recruitment channel. But they kept me for around 10 kara runs because I was a decent healer until I decided to leave.
This happened about half year ago, b4 wotlk came out.
Edit: Just wanted to add, I couldn't report them because whenever they said those words and made stereotype/racism jokes, it only happened in the kara/za vent, but not in guild chat. They were too afraid to make discriminative jokes/comments in guild chat with so many people. But they will go all out when there are only the people that they know in vent.
It may be just me but this post just smacks of a 10 year old in the playground running to the lunch lady saying "i don't like them anymore, i'm not going to play with them" because he got knocked over during a game of army and scuffed his knee.
The people/groups you mention have always been there so to use them as the reason why you were "pushed" out of the game is poor to say the least. There are poeple/groups like this in every game and to be fair, in every walk of life.
You pay your own subscription, you play the game the way you like to play it and you play alongside the people that you enjoy playing alongside, end of.
It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.
1. IF you played the game for 4 years, it's about time you leave. 2. The player changed not the game. End game options were tripled over the original Wow. From loot badges to crafting recipies. From PvP BG's, to organised open world PvP Sieges and daily PvP quests. 3. Complaining about the people who play is about the LOWEST and easiest form of attack I ever saw. There are .... guilds you know. Thousands of them. So if an Oscar winning Hollywood producer of VISUAL effects of Lord of the Rings has his own guild in Wow, I doubt the people you mention are running around in every guild. http://www.wowinsider.com/2009/03/03/15-minutes-of-fame-player-nabs-an-oscar-and-sarth-3d-too/ Besides: having racial remarks should have you banned from these forums. It shows your attittude in dividing people on race/age (you'll be quicker 50 than you'll realise)/sex/.... And you are complaining about people? I am sure you are the worst of them all.
I'll address this in the order you've made it..
1. I said I've played the game on-and-off for 4 years, not for 4 years straight.
2. The player changed not the game? I don't even understand why you are making this point.. my comments have only been targeted at the community, not the game itself.
3. Complaining about people who play is the lowest.. easiest form of attack you ever saw? Why? That makes no sense.
What the hell does one Hollywood producer who plays the game have anything to do with it? Roger Clemens plays too but they hardly represent the majority of players.
Racial remarks should have me banned? I agree but pointing out people are white as part of their personalities is not a racial remark, its an observation.. and on top of that neither you or anyone else can deny that.
And my attitude in dividing people on race/age/sex? I'm not dividing anyone, they have divided themselves. To be honest I don't even know why I'm giving you the satisfaction of a reply.. you clearly have put almost no thought into yours.
While some of those things bothered me, I still enjoyed the game for about 10 months before deciding to quit. I hit level 60 in about a month of hardcore playing, got into one of the best guilds on Arthas server, and raided MC/ONYXIA CONSTANTLY until most of the guild was geared appropriately. Then BWL went live, and the rinse + repeat happened all over again. Same boss loot grind, different area.
There was nothing else to do in the game. I ran ALL the instances, and even started running places like UD Strat, UBRS, just for the 1/10000 chance of getting the undead mount and epic dagger from UBRS.. The only actual end left was to keep raiding BWL just for upgradeable equipment, but most of the t2 stuff was pretty much similar with T1 gear.. I mean, it was in MC for a while before Blizzard took it out and put it in BWL.
So one day I said to myself, I've done everything possible in WoW, but there's just not enough fun content to keep me interested. The raiding has become boring, there's no incentive to keep playing. So I quit and went back to EQ2 where there was a TON more content.. I never went back to WoW even though I did read about the new expansions.. Basically same grind, different ways to go about it. *shrug*
ALOT of the people were annoying little rejects, but what really caused me to leave was the fact the game became super boring and repetitive..
Rallithon Oakthornn (Retired Heirophant of the 60th season)
any game you can play for that long must be one hell of a game. i cant believe you are saying anything negative about it. it should be all praise as most games nowadays are 15 to 25 hours long.
Well, that was a rather long whine. The game changed yes, some like it, some hate it. I didn't like the way WotLK went so I quit. The community is a mixed bag though. I saw my share of dickheads and asshats in WoW and curse Blizzard for limiting the ignore list. I filled it up in a spiffy, with most of them being goldsellers and spammers. Not to say they don't exist in other games, but since WoW is so damn big they are way more visible there than in most other mmo's.
I recently resubbed to CoX and feel it's a blessing to have a chat that ain't full of chuck norris jokes and stfu nub l2p gtfo and other stupid acronyms and abbreviations. The community is nice and relaxed aswell. You have powergamers over there too but they ain't busy chasing the next big carrot the developers dangle infront of them.
Anyway, this thread do have a point whatever the fans say. The community in WoW is quite horrible most of the time and way worse than most of the other mmo's out there. You have some good ones though but you have to dig through a shitload of crap to get to them. Pugs are a horrible experience most of the time. Funny though, and something to think about, is that I find pugs in CoX an enjoyable experience all over, something I very seldom found it to be in WoW.
WoW got other faults too, and share them with most other mmo's but in WoW they are all the more visible due to the huge community. In WoW's case I feel the huge community is a rather big minus to the whole deal. Who bloody need 11.5 million people to play with anyway. I've played, and enhoyed other mmo's with less than 50k subs.
imo, wow has one of the best content and gameplay in most of the mmorpg i've ever played. The only problem I have with wow is the community and the addiction. I could control myself better when playing other mmorpg's but it is rather hard to just limit my play time when playing wow. Tho I think with working couple days a week, I could manage my wow play time better.
When talking about community in any mmorpg, Atlantica has one of the best community i've seen so far in mmorpg. You don't see kids babbling nonsense on the general chat, city channel, guild chat, or party chat. It is a totally different society than wow. But the gameplay is not as good as wow. And one of the biggest problem it has is the item mall that ruins the gameplay. That's why I quit it.
But since nothing is perfect, I don't blame those kids polluting the community of wow. They just need time to learn to grow up.
Oh yeah, you should add the internet tough guys to your list.
I love it when some underweight nerd E-rages and talks shit to me. It's great because it lets me know that I've trolled them and have been successful at pushing their buttons....on a video game...with words, and it makes it even sweeter because while they're trying to put me down because I'm on my alt and don't have all purples and telling me how pathetic I am over the internet, they shit their pants if I showed up at their door and would throw all their WoW gold at me to escape an ass beating.
The internet is a marvelous thing. It allows the weak and stupid to act big and bad from the safety of their home. I guess they have to build up a false sense of confidence and self-worth someway.
I don't get it, is this meant to be a funny/ironic post? Or are you being serious? - Cause you just called out yourself
4 years is not much for a MMO, but everytime I stared to play WoW I become bored after 4 months and never played it for more than 8 months with small brakes for a rest and thats so long because of Arena.
Where themepark games try to hide that they are copying WOW, games like Mortal Online and Darkfall make no attempt to hide their inspiration ______\m/_____ LordOfDarkDesire
if we have learned anything in life its there is always good with the bad. Yet your post is how awful the people are and you have somehow simplyfide 11millon people into 4 groups. Now what group are you in? pause..
Just reread the op's post. I am so impressed. You know what they watch.. what they think, their REAL age.. no one would lie to you.. because your not lying to us.. you must have been on almost every server tried endless guilds to come up with such facts. So everyone had vent and you can read people so good from just there voice. And duh people in WOW always tell the truth..
YES I AM A REALL GIRL!. classic
Have you EVER played anything other than wow? Eq2/eve,war, blah blah has the same crap to some point. So you got kicked out of some guild, no one helped you in pvp, someone hit need so many times.. your crap didnt sell, you RP'ed and found out it was a guy.. blah blah and your pissed and you want others to cry with you or give you a hug.. kiss
This game WOW is the easyest MMO ever made. Facebook, myspace, youtube, any kind of chat site. If you want to just look at one part you can paint a really beautiful picture or evil picture.
So cut the crap. You have said, did , acted no better at times then anyone else.. so you never told someone you were a REAL GIRL.. lol.. its a game you dont like it /ignore the name. I still play now and then and I guess if I just hang around long enough I can wait till something stupid happens.. but I dont.. its a game its not real.
Fun post that made me laugh. The funny part is i have run into all those types mentioned while playing WoW. Or playing any MMORPG for that matter. They all annoy me as much as they do you but they are unavoidable no matter what MMORPG you decide to play. Specially the popular ones. If those people are the reasons you quit then you might as well quit the genre all together.
OR TAAADAAA!!!. Start your own guild and exclude the personalities you dislike so much.
It is funny how similar all of these posts about how horrible wows community all have such similarities. Not about wows community mind you, but the way they are presented.
It is so ironic to listen to people talk about all these other "bad" people and throw out insult after insult after insult. Not criticism mind you, but gross generalizations, hyperbole and nasty stereotypes in some effort to make all these other people over there look bad.
I have to wonder who has the attitude problem, you or all these other people you are trash talking about. After all you are doing a spectacular job of doing exactly what you are condemning other for doing. Perhaps you are more to blame than you are willing to admit.
OP you are a whiny little "white" kid. Kudos for bashing the community of the game you played for 4 years. Not sure what your agenda is other than inciting a flame war. Granted this is probably the most anti-wow site on the internet, but the stupidity of some of the people here never ceases to amaze me.
So congrats, of all the steriotypes mentioned in your post you come out as the worst. A sorry loser. Yea the grapes were sour in my vineyard too lmao
"It is my opinion, that my opinions are always right"
Oh yeah, you should add the internet tough guys to your list.
I love it when some underweight nerd E-rages and talks shit to me. It's great because it lets me know that I've trolled them and have been successful at pushing their buttons....on a video game...with words, and it makes it even sweeter because while they're trying to put me down because I'm on my alt and don't have all purples and telling me how pathetic I am over the internet, they shit their pants if I showed up at their door and would throw all their WoW gold at me to escape an ass beating.
The internet is a marvelous thing. It allows the weak and stupid to act big and bad from the safety of their home. I guess they have to build up a false sense of confidence and self-worth someway.
Oh yeah, you should add the internet tough guys to your list.
I love it when some underweight nerd E-rages and talks shit to me. It's great because it lets me know that I've trolled them and have been successful at pushing their buttons....on a video game...with words, and it makes it even sweeter because while they're trying to put me down because I'm on my alt and don't have all purples and telling me how pathetic I am over the internet, they shit their pants if I showed up at their door and would throw all their WoW gold at me to escape an ass beating.
The internet is a marvelous thing. It allows the weak and stupid to act big and bad from the safety of their home. I guess they have to build up a false sense of confidence and self-worth someway.
So much hypocrisy in one post. It's magical.
LOL that is priceless. Good pick MystaIV.
This is exactly what I was talking about a post or two above this one.
It is funny how similar all of these posts about how horrible wows community all have such similarities. Not about wows community mind you, but the way they are presented. It is so ironic to listen to people talk about all these other "bad" people and throw out insult after insult after insult. Not criticism mind you, but gross generalizations, hyperbole and nasty stereotypes in some effort to make all these other people over there look bad. I have to wonder who has the attitude problem, you or all these other people you are trash talking about. After all you are doing a spectacular job of doing exactly what you are condemning other for doing. Perhaps you are more to blame than you are willing to admit.
Well, the stereotypes is overly present in WoW. I've been with the game on and off since pre-bc. I've played alot of other mmo's in between and without a doubt, WoW got the worst community of them all. Even Eve, which is full of elitist people with an immense hatred for newbs, got a better community. The game managed to grab me for over 600 hours though over those years. Not much when you think it's a 4 year period but it's more than I usually give any mmo, except the first mmo-love ofcourse, which in my case was Anarchy Online
Well Zorndorf. Just because people are behind a computer screen and anonymous doesn't mean they have free reign to be an asswipe. Lots of people think that though and they are quite visible in WoW. Other mmo's don't have that problem, not to that degree anyway. It's as I said earlier, since WoW is so huge as it is now, the odds for bumping into one of those is quite high. In other mmo's people like that get frozen out of the community and ends up quitting the game, or getting their act together. I didn't see that happen in WoW though, due to it's size. Also the limited ignorelist(why?) had something to do with that aswell. Because of that, I found the ignorelist useless.
I don't hate WoW though. It managed to keep my attention for quite a while, which is more than most other mmo's can boast off. It's highly addictive, polished and a solid product and it should be that with all the money they get in each month. Actually when you think of all the money they get in, you expect more from them. Pre-bc dungeons stay empty and ain't updated to fit the new content. They feature the best raids in WoW without a doubt. Haven't tried WotLK raids but since WoW is geared towards small raids now I feel they can't compare to the huge raids pre-bc had. It feels like Blizzard let their greed get the better off them.
Originally posted by slask777 Well Zorndorf. Just because people are behind a computer screen and anonymous doesn't mean they have free reign to be an asswipe. Lots of people think that though and they are quite visible in WoW. Other mmo's don't have that problem, not to that degree anyway. It's as I said earlier, since WoW is so huge as it is now, the odds for bumping into one of those is quite high. In other mmo's people like that get frozen out of the community and ends up quitting the game, or getting their act together. I didn't see that happen in WoW though, due to it's size. Also the limited ignorelist(why?) had something to do with that aswell. Because of that, I found the ignorelist useless. I don't hate WoW though. It managed to keep my attention for quite a while, which is more than most other mmo's can boast off. It's highly addictive, polished and a solid product and it should be that with all the money they get in each month. Actually when you think of all the money they get in, you expect more from them. Pre-bc dungeons stay empty and ain't updated to fit the new content. They feature the best raids in WoW without a doubt. Haven't tried WotLK raids but since WoW is geared towards small raids now I feel they can't compare to the huge raids pre-bc had. It feels like Blizzard let their greed get the better off them.
Unfortunately with this being a free world (for most of us) and the fact that these guys pay a subscription like the rest of us, they are free to act in any way they please, asswipe or not. It is up to the individual player how they play and who the associate with whilst playing and that is what makes the game, not concentrating on those who you do not wish to associate with.
As for other games and their communities, there are just as many 'asswipes' in those games by percentage of the community as a whole, whether it be kill stealers in AO or gate griefers in EVE (both of which i have played and experienced). Two reasons that they are less apparent is that these communities will be tighter and the 'asswipes' tend to end up in their own little groups shunned by everyone else and that there are just fewer of them due to the smaller community as a whole.
Quite surprised that you mention bre-BC dungeons being empty as in my experience there are more people trying the old content now since the release of Wrath than ever before. Whether it is just to fill their achievement list or curiosity raised through the more casual style of BC & Wrath raids, there are loads of requests for Pre-BC dungeons/raids every day now compared to 12 months ago.
It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.
I don't think any of us are wow haters. We all have the same feelings toward wow here, its just the fact that some of us quit the game and some are still playing. Some of us just couldn't stand the community and quit for couple months just for a break. But we are still on a wow forum discussing wow because we still like the game and want to know updates about it. I'm sure some of us will be back playing the game but only when it's time. After all, why did we quit anyway, because some of us grow tired after seeing little or many negative sides about wow that some may not see when playing the game. For example, the community.
Some of us quitters want to experience more in rl than ig. I myself want to take a break, want to spend 12 hours per day in real life but not in game. When I will be back playing wow in about 2 months later, I am sure I will have more control than before because I am learning to manage my own time everyday now since the time I quit wow. Given the fact that I also realized wow is only a game. Raids, gears aren't important, they will eventually be left over crap anyway. I play just for fun when I am back playing. But who knows, I might not even be back playing if I am busy.
For those that are still playing wow, go on to trade channel and listen for an hour when it's around 4pm-6pm - this depends on your server raid schedule. on my server, its identical to barrens chat, big kids from big guilds will talk big while waiting for their raid to start. And It takes long to stop even after they have gone to raid, because they leave stupid topics behind for those to discuss/argue. Go for 5 PUG's dungeons and see how many you can finish with the original party. I was tired of puging because I was tired of leading and marking as a healer. Tanks weren't responsible, ppl afking out, ppl crying for the gear for offset that they were trying to steal from the ones who really need them. Raids took longer than ever to finish because ppl didn't cooperate and didn't care about others. All they care is the gear they want, but not fun and the desire to finish the raid. But this differs in every server, but i m sure it happens in many server.. even on the horde side with so many blood elves now.
You're obviously not white and have some racial issues you need to deal with.
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I am white, actually. As white as it gets. I'm just perceptive. And yes, being white is an important detail in the personalities of the people I mentioned. I could care less if that offends you..
Not as perceptive as you think if you believe that skin color is an important part of someone's personality. People have full control over their personality. Their skin color however cannot be changed.
I do find it amusing how you come on hear slamming the community (no, I am NOT defending WoW's community). They are whiney, immature, elitist, (whatever else you said) and yet YOU would be the exact type of person that most peeps would want out of the community. You know, whiney.... elitist.... immature. With over 11 million people playing what do you think you are going to find?? Play with friends for crying out loud or family or whoever you think would be worthy! 4 years is enough, I know, I just think you might expect a bit much from 11 million people.
You said yourself, you don't care if you offend anyone....hmmmm, part of the problem perhaps ???
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The community is mostly what drove me away from the game. Pretty much the most immature gamers in any game. It doesn't matter if the people are age 10 or 50,it just seems like a disease,sooner or later most WoW players becomes asses.
The game has mostly turned me anti social...I could never ask any questions without getting at least 5-6 smart ass replies...if I was lucky I would have somebody answer me. I played the game since beta and it definitely wasn't always like this. In the beginning it was very pleasant.
Despite the horrible community the last nail in the coffin for me was Wrath of the Lich King,it was dreadfully easy...I don't find much enjoyment out of a game if you don't even have to try to earn epic gear. I'm not saying I'll never go back...but it wont be till next expansion at the earliest.
You should also put a group - Alien Haters. I used to be in a guild that raided kara and za alot. I didn't attend that much after I've experienced something that really bothered me much, they were the god damn kids around my age that were 15-21 in the guild or somewhat older, I couldn't tell. They just discriminate against any kind of people that aren't white. Sorry, people but i refer to them and no one else. But I'm serious about their racism comments. Not the whole guild, but just a group of 5-7 that I usually raid with in kara. Often, they say the N word when they are bored, not just once, you know how those racist that say those word multiple times, just pretend like a joke. And they laughed and kept telling stereotype jokes whenever someone brought up the N word.
The raid leader was not a racist tho, all he does is sit there and explain fights, manage time and what you call those... uhh Guild Points or whatever used to contribute and exchange for gears, At least, he seemed to be more educated, but he always kept silent when racist jokes started to come up. He and the other neutral guy were the only ones I talked to in vent.
So, I had enough and decided to tell the guild leader the problem, he didn't believe me. He was in the bt/sunwell raids so he didn't even bother caring about the low gear guildies. And by the way, this is a big guild, not some minor ones. It is a well-known one in the server Executus. The guild name is called Onslaught, I just couldn't forget the damn name, it's still in my head, their ways of speaking and stereotyping others.
When the leader didn't believe me, I just /gquit, /ignore him and all those racists that raided with me. I was also considered a girly-boy because I didn't talk much. You know why, all they talked/joked about were stereotype topics and gears. And those topics don't interest me. And it was a random guild that I found on guild recruitment channel. But they kept me for around 10 kara runs because I was a decent healer until I decided to leave.
This happened about half year ago, b4 wotlk came out.
Edit: Just wanted to add, I couldn't report them because whenever they said those words and made stereotype/racism jokes, it only happened in the kara/za vent, but not in guild chat. They were too afraid to make discriminative jokes/comments in guild chat with so many people. But they will go all out when there are only the people that they know in vent.
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It may be just me but this post just smacks of a 10 year old in the playground running to the lunch lady saying "i don't like them anymore, i'm not going to play with them" because he got knocked over during a game of army and scuffed his knee.
The people/groups you mention have always been there so to use them as the reason why you were "pushed" out of the game is poor to say the least. There are poeple/groups like this in every game and to be fair, in every walk of life.
You pay your own subscription, you play the game the way you like to play it and you play alongside the people that you enjoy playing alongside, end of.
It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.
I'll address this in the order you've made it..
1. I said I've played the game on-and-off for 4 years, not for 4 years straight.
2. The player changed not the game? I don't even understand why you are making this point.. my comments have only been targeted at the community, not the game itself.
3. Complaining about people who play is the lowest.. easiest form of attack you ever saw? Why? That makes no sense.
What the hell does one Hollywood producer who plays the game have anything to do with it? Roger Clemens plays too but they hardly represent the majority of players.
Racial remarks should have me banned? I agree but pointing out people are white as part of their personalities is not a racial remark, its an observation.. and on top of that neither you or anyone else can deny that.
And my attitude in dividing people on race/age/sex? I'm not dividing anyone, they have divided themselves. To be honest I don't even know why I'm giving you the satisfaction of a reply.. you clearly have put almost no thought into yours.
To the OP.
While some of those things bothered me, I still enjoyed the game for about 10 months before deciding to quit. I hit level 60 in about a month of hardcore playing, got into one of the best guilds on Arthas server, and raided MC/ONYXIA CONSTANTLY until most of the guild was geared appropriately. Then BWL went live, and the rinse + repeat happened all over again. Same boss loot grind, different area.
There was nothing else to do in the game. I ran ALL the instances, and even started running places like UD Strat, UBRS, just for the 1/10000 chance of getting the undead mount and epic dagger from UBRS.. The only actual end left was to keep raiding BWL just for upgradeable equipment, but most of the t2 stuff was pretty much similar with T1 gear.. I mean, it was in MC for a while before Blizzard took it out and put it in BWL.
So one day I said to myself, I've done everything possible in WoW, but there's just not enough fun content to keep me interested. The raiding has become boring, there's no incentive to keep playing. So I quit and went back to EQ2 where there was a TON more content.. I never went back to WoW even though I did read about the new expansions.. Basically same grind, different ways to go about it. *shrug*
ALOT of the people were annoying little rejects, but what really caused me to leave was the fact the game became super boring and repetitive..
Rallithon Oakthornn
(Retired Heirophant of the 60th season)
any game you can play for that long must be one hell of a game. i cant believe you are saying anything negative about it. it should be all praise as most games nowadays are 15 to 25 hours long.
Well, that was a rather long whine. The game changed yes, some like it, some hate it. I didn't like the way WotLK went so I quit. The community is a mixed bag though. I saw my share of dickheads and asshats in WoW and curse Blizzard for limiting the ignore list. I filled it up in a spiffy, with most of them being goldsellers and spammers. Not to say they don't exist in other games, but since WoW is so damn big they are way more visible there than in most other mmo's.
I recently resubbed to CoX and feel it's a blessing to have a chat that ain't full of chuck norris jokes and stfu nub l2p gtfo and other stupid acronyms and abbreviations. The community is nice and relaxed aswell. You have powergamers over there too but they ain't busy chasing the next big carrot the developers dangle infront of them.
Anyway, this thread do have a point whatever the fans say. The community in WoW is quite horrible most of the time and way worse than most of the other mmo's out there. You have some good ones though but you have to dig through a shitload of crap to get to them. Pugs are a horrible experience most of the time. Funny though, and something to think about, is that I find pugs in CoX an enjoyable experience all over, something I very seldom found it to be in WoW.
WoW got other faults too, and share them with most other mmo's but in WoW they are all the more visible due to the huge community. In WoW's case I feel the huge community is a rather big minus to the whole deal. Who bloody need 11.5 million people to play with anyway. I've played, and enhoyed other mmo's with less than 50k subs.
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Grammar nazi's. This one is for you.
imo, wow has one of the best content and gameplay in most of the mmorpg i've ever played. The only problem I have with wow is the community and the addiction. I could control myself better when playing other mmorpg's but it is rather hard to just limit my play time when playing wow. Tho I think with working couple days a week, I could manage my wow play time better.
When talking about community in any mmorpg, Atlantica has one of the best community i've seen so far in mmorpg. You don't see kids babbling nonsense on the general chat, city channel, guild chat, or party chat. It is a totally different society than wow. But the gameplay is not as good as wow. And one of the biggest problem it has is the item mall that ruins the gameplay. That's why I quit it.
But since nothing is perfect, I don't blame those kids polluting the community of wow. They just need time to learn to grow up.
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I don't get it, is this meant to be a funny/ironic post? Or are you being serious? - Cause you just called out yourself
hey OP, can i have your account since you quit!?!?!?!!??!!?
4 years is not much for a MMO, but everytime I stared to play WoW I become bored after 4 months and never played it for more than 8 months with small brakes for a rest and thats so long because of Arena.
Where themepark games try to hide that they are copying WOW, games like Mortal Online and Darkfall make no attempt to hide their inspiration
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pineapple..
if we have learned anything in life its there is always good with the bad. Yet your post is how awful the people are and you have somehow simplyfide 11millon people into 4 groups. Now what group are you in? pause..
Just reread the op's post. I am so impressed. You know what they watch.. what they think, their REAL age.. no one would lie to you.. because your not lying to us.. you must have been on almost every server tried endless guilds to come up with such facts. So everyone had vent and you can read people so good from just there voice. And duh people in WOW always tell the truth..
YES I AM A REALL GIRL!. classic
Have you EVER played anything other than wow? Eq2/eve,war, blah blah has the same crap to some point. So you got kicked out of some guild, no one helped you in pvp, someone hit need so many times.. your crap didnt sell, you RP'ed and found out it was a guy.. blah blah and your pissed and you want others to cry with you or give you a hug.. kiss
This game WOW is the easyest MMO ever made. Facebook, myspace, youtube, any kind of chat site. If you want to just look at one part you can paint a really beautiful picture or evil picture.
So cut the crap. You have said, did , acted no better at times then anyone else.. so you never told someone you were a REAL GIRL.. lol.. its a game you dont like it /ignore the name. I still play now and then and I guess if I just hang around long enough I can wait till something stupid happens.. but I dont.. its a game its not real.
Fun post that made me laugh. The funny part is i have run into all those types mentioned while playing WoW. Or playing any MMORPG for that matter. They all annoy me as much as they do you but they are unavoidable no matter what MMORPG you decide to play. Specially the popular ones. If those people are the reasons you quit then you might as well quit the genre all together.
OR TAAADAAA!!!. Start your own guild and exclude the personalities you dislike so much.
It is funny how similar all of these posts about how horrible wows community all have such similarities. Not about wows community mind you, but the way they are presented.
It is so ironic to listen to people talk about all these other "bad" people and throw out insult after insult after insult. Not criticism mind you, but gross generalizations, hyperbole and nasty stereotypes in some effort to make all these other people over there look bad.
I have to wonder who has the attitude problem, you or all these other people you are trash talking about. After all you are doing a spectacular job of doing exactly what you are condemning other for doing. Perhaps you are more to blame than you are willing to admit.
OP you are a whiny little "white" kid. Kudos for bashing the community of the game you played for 4 years. Not sure what your agenda is other than inciting a flame war. Granted this is probably the most anti-wow site on the internet, but the stupidity of some of the people here never ceases to amaze me.
So congrats, of all the steriotypes mentioned in your post you come out as the worst. A sorry loser. Yea the grapes were sour in my vineyard too lmao
"It is my opinion, that my opinions are always right"
So much hypocrisy in one post. It's magical.
So much hypocrisy in one post. It's magical.
LOL that is priceless. Good pick MystaIV.
This is exactly what I was talking about a post or two above this one.
Well, the stereotypes is overly present in WoW. I've been with the game on and off since pre-bc. I've played alot of other mmo's in between and without a doubt, WoW got the worst community of them all. Even Eve, which is full of elitist people with an immense hatred for newbs, got a better community. The game managed to grab me for over 600 hours though over those years. Not much when you think it's a 4 year period but it's more than I usually give any mmo, except the first mmo-love ofcourse, which in my case was Anarchy Online
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Grammar nazi's. This one is for you.
Well Zorndorf. Just because people are behind a computer screen and anonymous doesn't mean they have free reign to be an asswipe. Lots of people think that though and they are quite visible in WoW. Other mmo's don't have that problem, not to that degree anyway. It's as I said earlier, since WoW is so huge as it is now, the odds for bumping into one of those is quite high. In other mmo's people like that get frozen out of the community and ends up quitting the game, or getting their act together. I didn't see that happen in WoW though, due to it's size. Also the limited ignorelist(why?) had something to do with that aswell. Because of that, I found the ignorelist useless.
I don't hate WoW though. It managed to keep my attention for quite a while, which is more than most other mmo's can boast off. It's highly addictive, polished and a solid product and it should be that with all the money they get in each month. Actually when you think of all the money they get in, you expect more from them. Pre-bc dungeons stay empty and ain't updated to fit the new content. They feature the best raids in WoW without a doubt. Haven't tried WotLK raids but since WoW is geared towards small raids now I feel they can't compare to the huge raids pre-bc had. It feels like Blizzard let their greed get the better off them.
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Grammar nazi's. This one is for you.
Unfortunately with this being a free world (for most of us) and the fact that these guys pay a subscription like the rest of us, they are free to act in any way they please, asswipe or not. It is up to the individual player how they play and who the associate with whilst playing and that is what makes the game, not concentrating on those who you do not wish to associate with.
As for other games and their communities, there are just as many 'asswipes' in those games by percentage of the community as a whole, whether it be kill stealers in AO or gate griefers in EVE (both of which i have played and experienced). Two reasons that they are less apparent is that these communities will be tighter and the 'asswipes' tend to end up in their own little groups shunned by everyone else and that there are just fewer of them due to the smaller community as a whole.
Quite surprised that you mention bre-BC dungeons being empty as in my experience there are more people trying the old content now since the release of Wrath than ever before. Whether it is just to fill their achievement list or curiosity raised through the more casual style of BC & Wrath raids, there are loads of requests for Pre-BC dungeons/raids every day now compared to 12 months ago.
It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.
Depends on your realm type:
PvP - Filled with tards who consume too much sugar.
PvE - Boooooooring
RP-PvP - Empty
RP - Usually better than the other 3, don't be surprised if asked to cyb0r...by a gnome...paladin...with pink hair...naked...whilst in a raid.
I don't think any of us are wow haters. We all have the same feelings toward wow here, its just the fact that some of us quit the game and some are still playing. Some of us just couldn't stand the community and quit for couple months just for a break. But we are still on a wow forum discussing wow because we still like the game and want to know updates about it. I'm sure some of us will be back playing the game but only when it's time. After all, why did we quit anyway, because some of us grow tired after seeing little or many negative sides about wow that some may not see when playing the game. For example, the community.
Some of us quitters want to experience more in rl than ig. I myself want to take a break, want to spend 12 hours per day in real life but not in game. When I will be back playing wow in about 2 months later, I am sure I will have more control than before because I am learning to manage my own time everyday now since the time I quit wow. Given the fact that I also realized wow is only a game. Raids, gears aren't important, they will eventually be left over crap anyway. I play just for fun when I am back playing. But who knows, I might not even be back playing if I am busy.
For those that are still playing wow, go on to trade channel and listen for an hour when it's around 4pm-6pm - this depends on your server raid schedule. on my server, its identical to barrens chat, big kids from big guilds will talk big while waiting for their raid to start. And It takes long to stop even after they have gone to raid, because they leave stupid topics behind for those to discuss/argue. Go for 5 PUG's dungeons and see how many you can finish with the original party. I was tired of puging because I was tired of leading and marking as a healer. Tanks weren't responsible, ppl afking out, ppl crying for the gear for offset that they were trying to steal from the ones who really need them. Raids took longer than ever to finish because ppl didn't cooperate and didn't care about others. All they care is the gear they want, but not fun and the desire to finish the raid. But this differs in every server, but i m sure it happens in many server.. even on the horde side with so many blood elves now.
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I am white, actually. As white as it gets. I'm just perceptive. And yes, being white is an important detail in the personalities of the people I mentioned. I could care less if that offends you..
Not as perceptive as you think if you believe that skin color is an important part of someone's personality. People have full control over their personality. Their skin color however cannot be changed.
I do find it amusing how you come on hear slamming the community (no, I am NOT defending WoW's community). They are whiney, immature, elitist, (whatever else you said) and yet YOU would be the exact type of person that most peeps would want out of the community. You know, whiney.... elitist.... immature. With over 11 million people playing what do you think you are going to find?? Play with friends for crying out loud or family or whoever you think would be worthy! 4 years is enough, I know, I just think you might expect a bit much from 11 million people.
You said yourself, you don't care if you offend anyone....hmmmm, part of the problem perhaps ???
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It's amazing that you lasted 4 years. I quit after six months.