Hmm... so after eight years in development Aventurine have managed to produce a fantasy mod for Planetside, but with fewer viable weapons and vehicles, more between-battle macro-heavy time sinks ("resource gathering"), more knife-fights, more hacks, and far fewer players because the servers are still so unstable they can't even manage the meagre few thousand they already have.
Ok, there is no such thing as a greater PS fanboi than me so that aside, they are nothing alike. PS even at its height never had 10k consecutive players on a single map, and before the cap reductions to 133 a-side the lag could be terrible in a full 3 way, the constant stuttering in the first 1-2 years was game breaking, during which time they have been improving it for 4 YEARS!
The only real similarities are obviously the fps (although DF's seems to be a lot more loose) style and the hacks are the same for both. As it stands right now I would take PS anyday, but like I said I'm a fanboi. However I can see how the possabilities with DF can make it a far greater game than PS ever was or will be, PS is a finished product you will get nothing more, DF however is just begining its real development.
Also just because people arn't yet using tactics doesn't mean they arn't there.
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Hmm... so after eight years in development Aventurine have managed to produce a fantasy mod for Planetside, but with fewer viable weapons and vehicles, more between-battle macro-heavy time sinks ("resource gathering"), more knife-fights, more hacks, and far fewer players because the servers are still so unstable they can't even manage the meagre few thousand they already have.
WTG Darkfall.
That ^^ is basically it. And I tend to wonder at the people playing Darkfall, because when I beta tested for 5 weeks, All I could think to myself is: Another Online FPS game, but with swords instead of knifes.
Perhaps those who are enjoying Darkfall are newbies and never knew about games such as Planatside..?
Actually, Planetside has a bigger subscriber base than DarkFall currently, so you can't really say it's dead. If they merged their existing 2 servers it would have a server density to match DarkFall as well.
On topic... the movies I've been watching over the last few days points out what I consider to be a flaw in the current looting/banking mechanism.
The attackers loot the defenders and then bank the loot at the defenders own bank! No big deal that they are looting... but at least make them have to carry away the spoils of victory. Anyway... that part for me seems a bit borked.
Actually, Planetside has a bigger subscriber base than DarkFall currently, so you can't really say it's dead. If they merged their existing 2 servers it would have a server density to match DarkFall as well.
SOE include Station Pass in their sub numbers for PS, despite this I can tell you there is nowhere near as many on PS throughout the day as on DF currently but in all honesty That aint saying much as there are about 500 concurrent players on PS at ANY time maximum (and thats being very generous).
I don't know when you last played PS but I can tell you if they added the 50 players from Werner to Gemini it really isn't making much difference.
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Why is everyone acting like this is some profound, impressive shit when PlanetSide had this going on all the time NEARLY SIX YEARS AGO. May. 2003. PlanetSide lost something like 95% of all players in the first 18 months though. I only see it being worse for DarkFall because who wants to bother actually grinding to get the shit for these battles. People would rather just fight all the time with never-ending free equipment.
because none of them played planetside, or eve?
a pvp game is fine and all; but as a said, if a persistent world AND lots of grinding for gear/skills is all darkfall can offer; then, i'll just play a REAL fps and have real fun there.
an MMO should offer something deeper other than grinds, especially for a monthly sub and a $60 down payment. no one can point to anything special other than shadows. and then, you can hide/snipe from the top of a tree and not even need shadows in which to hide.
nothing special about crafting, no prestige classes, no this, no that, just
persistent world
grind for skills
grind for gear
i want to understand what the hype is about, i really do. watching any video about df only makes me go - wtf is this crap. again, and again, and again.
you had a bunch of people in a fight. big whoop. you have the freedom to grief other players in a million different fashions -- again, big whoop.
since no one can do anything other than go "omg it's so great"; then, this hype is getting old. guess i'll have to wait for eve's wis, to be followed by the world of darkness mmo -- ffa pvp w/full looting done right by people who've made a great mmo.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
I'd like to know what school system these people went to so I can make sure to have anyone I know avoid it. Every single one of these "OMGZOZRZZ 50+ 100+ 150+ 300+ !!eleventyone!11!" posts clearly do not show the numbers they are claiming.
Bigfoot called, he wants you to pick up a loaf of bread on the way home.
dude, stop trolling, don't you know that 20 = any number from 1 - 1,000,000?? you could even make a video with just you sniping people from atop a tree and claim it was an EPIC battle of at least 50 people.
geez.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Hah, i was involved indirectly with this battle (border skirmishes). Fresh out of infantry training (The Black Company) and straight into battle. Seriosuly epic shit..i've never seen anything like it. WTF did they bring the servers down?
Never seen anything like it? You must have not played Planetside back in 2003 to 2005 at its peak. DF is not doing anything new in the large scale real time combat in MMO's, Planetside already been there and done that. Even in Planetside those battles over and over again become dull, the same will happen to DF.
Yes, but that was then and this is now. You're living in the past man! Contemporize!
This appears to be the only game on the market that offers large scale PvP today. Planetside may have done it fiirst, but Planetside is dead, let it go. DF offers the PvP today, so shitty graphics and choppy animations (terrible spell effects too) aside, DF is the best PvP option available today I think.
every time i read a post like this i think "eve online" and normally that thought is followed by "man, if this person doesn't know of a game that's been around for 6 years and is still growing, and is KNOWN for pvp... this person must not know much anything about pvp in mmos" and that sort of taints everything you've said because, well, you're ignoring the premier large-scale-battle pvp game on the market. sorta invalidates everything you say at that point.
that's like me saying... zomg, i just ate some turd flavored ice cream, it's the only ice cream i've ever eaten! it's the best thing in the world!
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
is this the same city siege that was posted almost a week ago? not knockin it but didnt it start as someone sayin 150+ then 200+ now 300+? lol (if this is a different one sry im too tired to read all the posts).
NOPE, this is a new battle that took place on 3-8-09
I'd like to know what school system these people went to so I can make sure to have anyone I know avoid it. Every single one of these "OMGZOZRZZ 50+ 100+ 150+ 300+ !!eleventyone!11!" posts clearly do not show the numbers they are claiming.
Bigfoot called, he wants you to pick up a loaf of bread on the way home.
I've been there for two of the three mentioned battles and you can either take my word or believe in your own assumptions.
I have nothing to gain from lying though, I'm playing and have been since beta and I don't care if you or others play as long as EU-1 stays steady, so far so good.
The point is, large scale battles are in and common.
As for the complaints about naked waves of enemies. After being killed two or three times dropping only 1 or 2 of 50+ enemies (this was the beginning of a 4-6 hour siege so the battles were smaller, only at the end was it 300+ people), you lose motivation to lose more gear and just try to disrupt your enemy. The waves proved incredibly ineffective though because of superior tactics, specifically the use of coordinated, sequenced infantry, calvary and ranged attackers.
The final battle also consisted of strategy and tactical maneuvers despite its massive numbers. With only a few minutes left until the enemy stone was free to be destroyed our clan and the alliance held the enemy's town without problem. Wessex had 20 or so archers stationed on the palisade walls, the other clans to had ranged on the walls. In the hamlet was a rag tag melee group of another 30 or so. Outside the town was another 30 Wessex guys and 20-30 of the Hundred in column and row formation. We looked south and saw at least 25 mounted Aesir charging from the flank. They attempted to break the lines outside of town and a huge foot battle errupted outside while other clans who had come to Aesirs aid began to encircle the town from all directions. The massive battle outside of town raged on as skrimishes inside (from respawning Aesir) and outside (from incoming clans who had headed Aesirs call for aid). The stone went up for destruction and our alliance held the town and kept the should be defenders at bay, we used all our battle spikes but underestimated how many were needed. We used 600 or so and did 1/5th the damage required to the stone. In the end we lost because of simple logistics but all involved learned a whole lot. It was hectic, chaotic and fun as hell for everyone invovled. Both sides put up a valiant effort and the game continues without a change in territory.
In the end, these battles while large and epic are only a side note of what is to come. As strategies form and equipment/siege gear is available, the scope in size and depth of these battles will only increase. I look forward to it.
B.S. I was in the battle and it was NOTHING LIKE what has been explained thus far.
It's a clear case of psychological need for whiny nerd -raged idiot liars to tout this bag of garbage. The game sucks because it offers nothing new and looks like its 10 YEARS OLD.
B.S. I was in the battle and it was NOTHING LIKE what has been explained thus far. It's a clear case of psychological need for whiny nerd -raged idiot liars to tout this bag of garbage. The game sucks because it offers nothing new and looks like its 10 YEARS OLD.
B.S. I was in the battle and it was NOTHING LIKE what has been explained thus far. It's a clear case of psychological need for whiny nerd -raged idiot liars to tout this bag of garbage. The game sucks because it offers nothing new and looks like its 10 YEARS OLD.
YAWN - nice try losers. Try another B.S. story.
Don't buy it...it sucks.
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----- Its funny how people who hate Darkfall spend so much time talking about Darkfall.
I guess being a fat troll means having no friends, no girls, and nothing better to do than spew hate on internet forums..
i did read the threads linked and saw the vids. Not really impressed. the video linked shows little of what was going on and was it speeded up.
for what i get it was a 4 hour battle. there was no where near 300 at the start. The attackers could not take over the city due to lack of hammers n pikes. they used 600 of em on the clan stone to reduce it to only 85%
Does sound like broken mechanics to me. Its dirt cheap to claim a town 10k gold. which means small little guilds can claim one and not even worry as of yet of it being taken. it shows that it is more costly to take down a town than it is to erect one.
The little portions of pvp with alot of people showed it was a zergfest. there was no tactics involved. Eventually the attackers numbers started to wear thin and it took alot of the defenders and their new found allies to drive them out . At the end it eventually came on whoever had the most numbers won.
I just find it funny how some posters come and write a detailed story of what happened then we see a video and it shows nothing of what the people wrote about. (read the link threads and youll see a few stories). I find it rediculous to hear that there was a group of archers, the calvary charged and minced them. seeing how darkfall is , those shooting arrows where not going to stay im place or continue shooting arrows when the mounted group closed in.they were obiously going to move and do the same pvp we have been seeing in the vids. Stop trying to make it look like some movie. Jus tstate the facts. there was a huge battle and thats that.
Ironicly the servers went down after the final clash when the numbers were actually big. That is not a good sign. Sadly in order to keep the game running smoothly many people had to resort on lowering all the settings to minimum, even sounds to stop the lag.
I sitll am waiting for an epic video that does justice to the big battles mentioned. For now not even the video link justifies the stroies we hear about this battle. Prob someone else who frapped it may link a better view to the fight.
Still when it comes to massive battles Eve Online still wins the show. Atleast there Tactics actually matter. you just cannot run in and zerg.
Watching Fanbois drop their soap in a prison full of desperate men.
Ok, there is no such thing as a greater PS fanboi than me so that aside, they are nothing alike. PS even at its height never had 10k consecutive players on a single map, and before the cap reductions to 133 a-side the lag could be terrible in a full 3 way, the constant stuttering in the first 1-2 years was game breaking, during which time they have been improving it for 4 YEARS! The only real similarities are obviously the fps (although DF's seems to be a lot more loose) style and the hacks are the same for both. As it stands right now I would take PS anyday, but like I said I'm a fanboi. However I can see how the possabilities with DF can make it a far greater game than PS ever was or will be, PS is a finished product you will get nothing more, DF however is just begining its real development. Also just because people arn't yet using tactics doesn't mean they arn't there.
QFE.
this is Darkfall a WEEK after release. not only does this shit all over WOW, WAR, and AoC for its ability to stage large-scale PVP right out of the box, but imagine the potential for Darkfall to scale once they've had a few months to tweak the code and optimise the hardware.
considering this is an indie developer with 1/10th the regular MMO budget, this is IMO a massive accomplishment.
Ok, there is no such thing as a greater PS fanboi than me so that aside, they are nothing alike. PS even at its height never had 10k consecutive players on a single map, and before the cap reductions to 133 a-side the lag could be terrible in a full 3 way, the constant stuttering in the first 1-2 years was game breaking, during which time they have been improving it for 4 YEARS! The only real similarities are obviously the fps (although DF's seems to be a lot more loose) style and the hacks are the same for both. As it stands right now I would take PS anyday, but like I said I'm a fanboi. However I can see how the possabilities with DF can make it a far greater game than PS ever was or will be, PS is a finished product you will get nothing more, DF however is just begining its real development. Also just because people arn't yet using tactics doesn't mean they arn't there.
QFE.
this is Darkfall a WEEK after release. not only does this shit all over WOW, WAR, and AoC for its ability to stage large-scale PVP right out of the box, but imagine the potential for Darkfall to scale once they've had a few months to tweak the code and optimise the hardware.
considering this is an indie developer with 1/10th the regular MMO budget, this is IMO a massive accomplishment.
wel cannot consider it a massive acomplishment yet. Prob when they open more servers and more people flock in. In its current state it has about 8k+ players only There nothing massive about that since the games you mention have much more people.
wow 12 mil
war 200k+
aoc 150k+
what av has to do is stop being idiots, open up more servers and grab all the PEOPLE who are willing to pay and play this game. The longer it takes the more people they will lose.
Watching Fanbois drop their soap in a prison full of desperate men.
More screenshot or video for these event ? i want to see more of it.
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Ok, there is no such thing as a greater PS fanboi than me so that aside, they are nothing alike. PS even at its height never had 10k consecutive players on a single map, and before the cap reductions to 133 a-side the lag could be terrible in a full 3 way, the constant stuttering in the first 1-2 years was game breaking, during which time they have been improving it for 4 YEARS!
I am a bigger PS fanboi than you.
I've seen the video of this "epic" darkfall video and I can safely say that it will NEVER measure up to PlanetSide in terms of scale. It may not have loading screens and seemless zones but the total server capacty is no different than PlanetSide's was in 2003. Any stutter or hitching was a limitation of graphics hardware for most computers at that time. The servers themselves offered reasonable latency (50ms to 100ms on average for me) and were very stable. The reduction in the cap was a response to population thinning out, an effort to spread out the fights again.
It's obvious from the video that darkfall servers are not up to snuff and suffer severe latency issues judging by the amount of warping that can be seen. It is extremely naive to assume that things will get better for darkfall any time soon considering all the time they've spent on development to deliver a poor game.
I would still be playing PlanetSide today if SoE had not neglected and mismanaged it into the ground combined with horrible gameplay changes. Still- those first couple years were the high point of MMO gaming
Hope you got your things together. Hope you are quite prepared to die. Looks like we're in for nasty weather. ... There's a bad moon on the rise.
I have a funny feeling there will someday be 500 man battles in the game.
That someday is coming. In fact if you correlate from the first post of 50+ to this one of 300+! it will only be a matter of 7 days.
am i napping during the videos? i doubt i've seen 50 folks on a DF video simultaneously yet, much less hundreds.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Until I see some semblance of skill being used in these sieges beyond them just being a huge number fest like EVE then I won't be impressed.
Oh that and letting people subscribe to the game through a REAL subscription system instead of signing up to the forums or going through a link their, I love how they've deliberately made it so people they've banned for saying negative things about the game can't subscribe.
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
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Hmm... so after eight years in development Aventurine have managed to produce a fantasy mod for Planetside, but with fewer viable weapons and vehicles, more between-battle macro-heavy time sinks ("resource gathering"), more knife-fights, more hacks, and far fewer players because the servers are still so unstable they can't even manage the meagre few thousand they already have.
WTG Darkfall.
Ok, there is no such thing as a greater PS fanboi than me so that aside, they are nothing alike. PS even at its height never had 10k consecutive players on a single map, and before the cap reductions to 133 a-side the lag could be terrible in a full 3 way, the constant stuttering in the first 1-2 years was game breaking, during which time they have been improving it for 4 YEARS!
The only real similarities are obviously the fps (although DF's seems to be a lot more loose) style and the hacks are the same for both. As it stands right now I would take PS anyday, but like I said I'm a fanboi. However I can see how the possabilities with DF can make it a far greater game than PS ever was or will be, PS is a finished product you will get nothing more, DF however is just begining its real development.
Also just because people arn't yet using tactics doesn't mean they arn't there.
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That ^^ is basically it. And I tend to wonder at the people playing Darkfall, because when I beta tested for 5 weeks, All I could think to myself is: Another Online FPS game, but with swords instead of knifes.
Perhaps those who are enjoying Darkfall are newbies and never knew about games such as Planatside..?
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I'd like to know what school system these people went to so I can make sure to have anyone I know avoid it.
Every single one of these "OMGZOZRZZ 50+ 100+ 150+ 300+ !!eleventyone!11!" posts clearly do not show the numbers they are claiming.
Bigfoot called, he wants you to pick up a loaf of bread on the way home.
Actually, Planetside has a bigger subscriber base than DarkFall currently, so you can't really say it's dead. If they merged their existing 2 servers it would have a server density to match DarkFall as well.
On topic... the movies I've been watching over the last few days points out what I consider to be a flaw in the current looting/banking mechanism.
The attackers loot the defenders and then bank the loot at the defenders own bank! No big deal that they are looting... but at least make them have to carry away the spoils of victory. Anyway... that part for me seems a bit borked.
SOE include Station Pass in their sub numbers for PS, despite this I can tell you there is nowhere near as many on PS throughout the day as on DF currently but in all honesty That aint saying much as there are about 500 concurrent players on PS at ANY time maximum (and thats being very generous).
I don't know when you last played PS but I can tell you if they added the 50 players from Werner to Gemini it really isn't making much difference.
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The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species.
because none of them played planetside, or eve?
a pvp game is fine and all; but as a said, if a persistent world AND lots of grinding for gear/skills is all darkfall can offer; then, i'll just play a REAL fps and have real fun there.
an MMO should offer something deeper other than grinds, especially for a monthly sub and a $60 down payment. no one can point to anything special other than shadows. and then, you can hide/snipe from the top of a tree and not even need shadows in which to hide.
nothing special about crafting, no prestige classes, no this, no that, just
persistent world
grind for skills
grind for gear
i want to understand what the hype is about, i really do. watching any video about df only makes me go - wtf is this crap. again, and again, and again.
you had a bunch of people in a fight. big whoop. you have the freedom to grief other players in a million different fashions -- again, big whoop.
since no one can do anything other than go "omg it's so great"; then, this hype is getting old. guess i'll have to wait for eve's wis, to be followed by the world of darkness mmo -- ffa pvp w/full looting done right by people who've made a great mmo.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
dude, stop trolling, don't you know that 20 = any number from 1 - 1,000,000?? you could even make a video with just you sniping people from atop a tree and claim it was an EPIC battle of at least 50 people.
geez.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Never seen anything like it? You must have not played Planetside back in 2003 to 2005 at its peak. DF is not doing anything new in the large scale real time combat in MMO's, Planetside already been there and done that. Even in Planetside those battles over and over again become dull, the same will happen to DF.
Yes, but that was then and this is now. You're living in the past man! Contemporize!
This appears to be the only game on the market that offers large scale PvP today. Planetside may have done it fiirst, but Planetside is dead, let it go. DF offers the PvP today, so shitty graphics and choppy animations (terrible spell effects too) aside, DF is the best PvP option available today I think.
every time i read a post like this i think "eve online" and normally that thought is followed by "man, if this person doesn't know of a game that's been around for 6 years and is still growing, and is KNOWN for pvp... this person must not know much anything about pvp in mmos" and that sort of taints everything you've said because, well, you're ignoring the premier large-scale-battle pvp game on the market. sorta invalidates everything you say at that point.
that's like me saying... zomg, i just ate some turd flavored ice cream, it's the only ice cream i've ever eaten! it's the best thing in the world!
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
NOPE, this is a new battle that took place on 3-8-09
Just watched the vid linked to youtube, didn't look anything like 300 and there was very little combat.
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The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species.
I've been there for two of the three mentioned battles and you can either take my word or believe in your own assumptions.
I have nothing to gain from lying though, I'm playing and have been since beta and I don't care if you or others play as long as EU-1 stays steady, so far so good.
The point is, large scale battles are in and common.
As for the complaints about naked waves of enemies. After being killed two or three times dropping only 1 or 2 of 50+ enemies (this was the beginning of a 4-6 hour siege so the battles were smaller, only at the end was it 300+ people), you lose motivation to lose more gear and just try to disrupt your enemy. The waves proved incredibly ineffective though because of superior tactics, specifically the use of coordinated, sequenced infantry, calvary and ranged attackers.
The final battle also consisted of strategy and tactical maneuvers despite its massive numbers. With only a few minutes left until the enemy stone was free to be destroyed our clan and the alliance held the enemy's town without problem. Wessex had 20 or so archers stationed on the palisade walls, the other clans to had ranged on the walls. In the hamlet was a rag tag melee group of another 30 or so. Outside the town was another 30 Wessex guys and 20-30 of the Hundred in column and row formation. We looked south and saw at least 25 mounted Aesir charging from the flank. They attempted to break the lines outside of town and a huge foot battle errupted outside while other clans who had come to Aesirs aid began to encircle the town from all directions. The massive battle outside of town raged on as skrimishes inside (from respawning Aesir) and outside (from incoming clans who had headed Aesirs call for aid). The stone went up for destruction and our alliance held the town and kept the should be defenders at bay, we used all our battle spikes but underestimated how many were needed. We used 600 or so and did 1/5th the damage required to the stone. In the end we lost because of simple logistics but all involved learned a whole lot. It was hectic, chaotic and fun as hell for everyone invovled. Both sides put up a valiant effort and the game continues without a change in territory.
In the end, these battles while large and epic are only a side note of what is to come. As strategies form and equipment/siege gear is available, the scope in size and depth of these battles will only increase. I look forward to it.
B.S. I was in the battle and it was NOTHING LIKE what has been explained thus far.
It's a clear case of psychological need for whiny nerd -raged idiot liars to tout this bag of garbage. The game sucks because it offers nothing new and looks like its 10 YEARS OLD.
YAWN - nice try losers. Try another B.S. story.
Don't buy it...it sucks.
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Its funny how people who hate Darkfall spend so much time talking about Darkfall.
I guess being a fat troll means having no friends, no girls, and nothing better to do than spew hate on internet forums..
i did read the threads linked and saw the vids. Not really impressed. the video linked shows little of what was going on and was it speeded up.
for what i get it was a 4 hour battle. there was no where near 300 at the start. The attackers could not take over the city due to lack of hammers n pikes. they used 600 of em on the clan stone to reduce it to only 85%
Does sound like broken mechanics to me. Its dirt cheap to claim a town 10k gold. which means small little guilds can claim one and not even worry as of yet of it being taken. it shows that it is more costly to take down a town than it is to erect one.
The little portions of pvp with alot of people showed it was a zergfest. there was no tactics involved. Eventually the attackers numbers started to wear thin and it took alot of the defenders and their new found allies to drive them out . At the end it eventually came on whoever had the most numbers won.
I just find it funny how some posters come and write a detailed story of what happened then we see a video and it shows nothing of what the people wrote about. (read the link threads and youll see a few stories). I find it rediculous to hear that there was a group of archers, the calvary charged and minced them. seeing how darkfall is , those shooting arrows where not going to stay im place or continue shooting arrows when the mounted group closed in.they were obiously going to move and do the same pvp we have been seeing in the vids. Stop trying to make it look like some movie. Jus tstate the facts. there was a huge battle and thats that.
Ironicly the servers went down after the final clash when the numbers were actually big. That is not a good sign. Sadly in order to keep the game running smoothly many people had to resort on lowering all the settings to minimum, even sounds to stop the lag.
I sitll am waiting for an epic video that does justice to the big battles mentioned. For now not even the video link justifies the stroies we hear about this battle. Prob someone else who frapped it may link a better view to the fight.
Still when it comes to massive battles Eve Online still wins the show. Atleast there Tactics actually matter. you just cannot run in and zerg.
Watching Fanbois drop their soap in a prison full of desperate men.
QFE.
this is Darkfall a WEEK after release. not only does this shit all over WOW, WAR, and AoC for its ability to stage large-scale PVP right out of the box, but imagine the potential for Darkfall to scale once they've had a few months to tweak the code and optimise the hardware.
considering this is an indie developer with 1/10th the regular MMO budget, this is IMO a massive accomplishment.
QFE.
this is Darkfall a WEEK after release. not only does this shit all over WOW, WAR, and AoC for its ability to stage large-scale PVP right out of the box, but imagine the potential for Darkfall to scale once they've had a few months to tweak the code and optimise the hardware.
considering this is an indie developer with 1/10th the regular MMO budget, this is IMO a massive accomplishment.
wel cannot consider it a massive acomplishment yet. Prob when they open more servers and more people flock in. In its current state it has about 8k+ players only There nothing massive about that since the games you mention have much more people.
wow 12 mil
war 200k+
aoc 150k+
what av has to do is stop being idiots, open up more servers and grab all the PEOPLE who are willing to pay and play this game. The longer it takes the more people they will lose.
Watching Fanbois drop their soap in a prison full of desperate men.
I have a funny feeling there will someday be 500 man battles in the game.
It's darkfall.. Most of it happens in your imagination. Don't you understand by now?
Don't worry in a few days there will be a thread saying 400+ epics siege !
That someday is coming. In fact if you correlate from the first post of 50+ to this one of 300+! it will only be a matter of 7 days.
More screenshot or video for these event ? i want to see more of it.
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$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
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I am a bigger PS fanboi than you.
I've seen the video of this "epic" darkfall video and I can safely say that it will NEVER measure up to PlanetSide in terms of scale. It may not have loading screens and seemless zones but the total server capacty is no different than PlanetSide's was in 2003. Any stutter or hitching was a limitation of graphics hardware for most computers at that time. The servers themselves offered reasonable latency (50ms to 100ms on average for me) and were very stable. The reduction in the cap was a response to population thinning out, an effort to spread out the fights again.
It's obvious from the video that darkfall servers are not up to snuff and suffer severe latency issues judging by the amount of warping that can be seen. It is extremely naive to assume that things will get better for darkfall any time soon considering all the time they've spent on development to deliver a poor game.
I would still be playing PlanetSide today if SoE had not neglected and mismanaged it into the ground combined with horrible gameplay changes. Still- those first couple years were the high point of MMO gaming
Hope you got your things together. Hope you are quite prepared to die. Looks like we're in for nasty weather. ... There's a bad moon on the rise.
That someday is coming. In fact if you correlate from the first post of 50+ to this one of 300+! it will only be a matter of 7 days.
am i napping during the videos? i doubt i've seen 50 folks on a DF video simultaneously yet, much less hundreds.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Until I see some semblance of skill being used in these sieges beyond them just being a huge number fest like EVE then I won't be impressed.
Oh that and letting people subscribe to the game through a REAL subscription system instead of signing up to the forums or going through a link their, I love how they've deliberately made it so people they've banned for saying negative things about the game can't subscribe.
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.