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AoC vs Darkfall video...
vardar
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This was on the AoC forum, posted by Axles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz_Md8Fem6s&fmt=22
You decide!!!!!!!
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Nice to see you found my video.
Here is round2
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Thanks for that "unbiased" comparison.
Did Craig put you up to this?
p.s. Your video is a joke
No, Darkfall is the joke. The video is just plain funny.
Edit: Honestly. It is ment as a joke. if you didn't get that I'm sorry.
RAWR!!
Lets pitt an MMO that can only be run on the top 30% of machines vs one that can be run by ANYONE!
And then lets consider that the main selling point of AoC was, and always has been their AMAZING GRAPHIX GAIS!!??!!
Cus when I play an MMO Graphics are the only thing I care about...
I admit Darkfall failed but so did AoC
Both companies were smoking some pretty bad crack when they made games with such amazingly massive flaws.
RAWR!!
Lets pitt an MMO that can only be run on the top 30% of machines vs one that can be run by ANYONE!
And then lets consider that the main selling point of AoC was, and always has been their AMAZING GRAPHIX GAIS!!??!!
Cus when I play an MMO Graphics are the only thing I care about...
I admit Darkfall failed but so did AoC
Both companies were smoking some pretty bad crack when they made games with such amazingly massive flaws.
Darkfall didn't fail. And, as far as I can tell, AoC is still running. I don't think there are any massive flaws in Darkfall, just a lot of polish is needed. Troll on that if you must, but it's the truth. I won't deny it. Doesn't mean the game has failed.
Your wondering where the fail is?
Lets see here, This is MMO RPG . com
Massively, Multiplayer.
AoC is not a Massively Multiplayer game, for several reason, one would be that a large portion of the community can't play the game on their system, and most people who do play had to make a computer JUST for it.
That is pretty rediculous, WoW was successful just because everyone who wanted to play it could.
What a great round of failure we've had this decade when it comes to MMOs!
Darkfall not failing? Where have you been?
Most of the things they promised are up in smoke and not in the good cheech and chong way.
People might as WELL play AoC, IF they can run it.
edit: Oh and before anyone says I'm just sad cus I can't play AoC, maybe I am? Maybe I'd like to but I can't afford to buy a whole new computer after I Just bought one two years ago. How pathetic is it they build agame a 2 y ear old computer can't run (and yes it was good when it was made)
This shows exactly how much you know. Keep up will you. that was over 5 months ago... this game runs on a cheap dual core 4gb of ddr2 and a 8600GTS fine.
Honestly i get better overall FPS in AoC then WoW.
when most people buy PS3's or Xbox i buy PC. if you own a Xbox they are coming out with AoC for it.
FYI: you can build a PC that will run AoC Maxed for under 600$ US nowadays and it will play Most of the new games out. not Crysis on full but L4D CODW@W all the games not ment as benchmark games.
This shows exactly how much you know. Keep up will you. that was over 5 months ago... this game runs on a cheap dual core 4gb of ddr2 and a 8600GTS fine.
Honestly i get better overall FPS in AoC then WoW.
when most people buy PS3's or Xbox i buy PC. if you own a Xbox they are coming out with AoC for it.
FYI: you can build a PC that will run AoC Maxed for under 600$ US nowadays and it will play Most of the new games out. not Crysis on full but L4D CODW@W all the games not ment as benchmark games.
yes I COULD go out and spent 600 dollars to play ONE SPECIFIC GAME!
Kinda expensive...
You guys are being seriously unrealistic.
This is a hobby, no one wants to spend 600 dollars to play just one single game.
Edit: You could say "But you can also play all these other games!"
What if I just want to try out AoC? I can run EVERY OTHER MMO out there right now except this one.
My point is you can't say its "THE BEST MMO" When its also the least accessible MMO out there.
In no way am i saying it's the best. But honestly if you can't play AoC on even low settings it's time for a new PC.
lol, the video speaks for itself, too bad there is a few people that are to ignorant to admit it, like i said, the video speaks for itself.....end of story....
Biased videos. At least they show a large amount of footage form both games. The AOC video is definately taken off of a high end computer. Never have I or any of my firneds played AoC that smoothly with 25+ people running around. Most of us had the Duo core 64 proccessors with the 8600gt vid car and 2 - 4 gb of ram. We could barely play the game on low settings.
Here is my look at the 2 videos though.
Darkfall has HORRIBLE ANIMATION. I'm a beginner 3D animator. My demo reel stuff is far better than what I saw in that Darkfall video. Here, you look at this little 2 day projec tI did: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOsjKT5bxVw&eurl=http://www.tashawnnicholas.com/
Gaming companies look at that and they will see all sorts of problem in my run cycle and speed of animation etc. Then I look at this utter crap from Darkfall and wonder.....why don't I have a job yet?
5 Big Orcs go galloping into town holding thier Epeen maces in front of them, stroking off as the bounce along. Then when they meet an enemy they perform 2 hits. Overhead and side swing and that is it. Are they doing anything special? Probably not. I don't care how crappy yoru MMO graphics are, there's nothing holding you back form decent 24fps animation.
The graphics are still all over the place. You got glossy metal armor with nice textures then blaaaaannnnnddd backgrounds and character details. The game seems to play like a FPS than an MMO or Action game.
I do like the pace of combat and the fact the characters react decently to damage. Bowmen seem to be snipers which is cool in a DAOC kind of way. all melee combat looks horrid and all range combat looks somewhat fun.
Now AOC. From my experience playing the game. The characters don't react enough to taking hits. So you don't get a good feel for the damage being dealt and recieved. Character special attacks are crisp and clear and easy to spot in combat. Sadly characters stilll seem to just swing widely at the air and you can't tell who your hitting osmetimes (probalbly due to the lack of hit animations).
Even though everyone is human you can tell there are different classes in the game. Class balance is still probably horrid. If Priest of Mitra are sitll nuking for the same amount or more than necros then there are still huge class balance problems.
This shows exactly how much you know. Keep up will you. that was over 5 months ago... this game runs on a cheap dual core 4gb of ddr2 and a 8600GTS fine.
Honestly i get better overall FPS in AoC then WoW.
when most people buy PS3's or Xbox i buy PC. if you own a Xbox they are coming out with AoC for it.
FYI: you can build a PC that will run AoC Maxed for under 600$ US nowadays and it will play Most of the new games out. not Crysis on full but L4D CODW@W all the games not ment as benchmark games.
yes I COULD go out and spent 600 dollars to play ONE SPECIFIC GAME!
Kinda expensive...
You guys are being seriously unrealistic.
This is a hobby, no one wants to spend 600 dollars to play just one single game.
Edit: You could say "But you can also play all these other games!"
What if I just want to try out AoC? I can run EVERY OTHER MMO out there right now except this one.
My point is you can't say its "THE BEST MMO" When its also the least accessible MMO out there.
Have you tried running EQ2, LOTROL, WAR and VG?
These have similar, if not greater graphic requirements then AoC.
You also need to compare what the graphic quality is like, I configured the graphics of both WAR and AoC to run smoothly on my PC, not maxed out, and AoC looks far better than WAR.
Of ocurse you can run Aoc on a 2 year old PC, you may not be able to run it at full quality however. Games are made this way to future proof them, more so MMOs that are around for 4 years + to say the least.
The maker of this video is clearly biased towards Age of Conan. He has combined the best of AoC and the worst of DF to make DF look bad.
Now we all know AoC has much better graphics than DF. But DF was never supposed to be about graphics. DF is (or should be) about FFA pvp gameplay.
Future of DF is unclear at this point. Some people say it's total failure while others say they participated in a 300+ PvP battle that was the best time they EVER had in an MMO. Can you honestly say that you've had "best time ever" in Age of Conan. I can't.
What Funcom failed to realize is that an MMO needs more than just pretty graphics. It needs a soul. We all saw what happened to AoC after launch. Once players lost that intial feeling of "wow this game looks great!", they saw AoC as what it REALLY is: just your average linear non-revolutionary MMO.
In todays market when multiple AAA MMO's launch every year, you need more than just pretty pictures to survive. This is what Blizzard understood and that is why they are where they are today.
You are a liar or your system is shit, and by that I mean you can have all the nicest hardware in the world if you have installed crap on it, or have done shit that has unoptimized it...
I played it on a nvidia6600 and a single core, and a 7800 after I replaced it, the 7800 was enough to get it to mid with some custom tweeks up, and the 6600 played it on low with draw distance cut down...
If you really had that hardware and didn't fuck it up it would run AoC fine...
Of all that is written, I love only what a person has written with his own blood. -Nietzsche
The maker of this video is clearly biased towards Age of Conan. He has combined the best of AoC and the worst of DF to make DF look bad.
Now we all know AoC has much better graphics than DF. But DF was never supposed to be about graphics. DF is (or should be) about FFA pvp gameplay.
Future of DF is unclear at this point. Some people say it's total failure while others say they participated in a 300+ PvP battle that was the best time they EVER had in an MMO. Can you honestly say that you've had "best time ever" in Age of Conan. I can't.
What Funcom failed to realize is that an MMO needs more than just pretty graphics. It needs a soul. We all saw what happened to AoC after launch. Once players lost that intial feeling of "wow this game looks great!", they saw AoC as what it REALLY is: just your average linear non-revolutionary MMO.
In todays market when multiple AAA MMO's launch every year, you need more than just pretty pictures to survive. This is what Blizzard understood and that is why they are where they are today.
Clearly the big difference in playing AoC compared to DF is Funcom gave me a game with a background, story and major quests to do. That is the developers "soul" going into making the game.
DF gives me a game that I have to make myself. The engine is all the game consists of. The UI is not even up to snuff of even the worst MMO's.
Basically, I can play D&D anytime I want (because that is all DF is), and not have to look at an ugly graphics engine to do it (of course Ted across the table does look somewhat uglier rolling his D20 than DF...SOMEWHAT)
If you have a 2 year old machine that can't play it, then sorry, it IS a crap machine. My 5 year old P4 3.0 gig hyperthreader could run the game at 22 fps at 1680x1050. Indeedy, if I got 10+ people running around in front of you and it would bog down, but if your machine is 2 years old and you can't run it, you're probably using the mobo gfx which wasn't made for gaming.
Clearly the big difference in playing AoC compared to DF is Funcom gave me a game with a background, story and major quests to do. That is the developers "soul" going into making the game.
DF gives me a game that I have to make myself. The engine is all the game consists of. The UI is not even up to snuff of even the worst MMO's.
Basically, I can play D&D anytime I want (because that is all DF is), and not have to look at an ugly graphics engine to do it (of course Ted across the table does look somewhat uglier rolling his D20 than DF...SOMEWHAT)
You and I are not to decide the fate of Age of Conan or Darkfall. It's the general public that makes that decision. You know the people who do NOT visit this forum every day?
Age of Conan had it's chance. They had about 800k subs at launch and now they have what.. 100k subs? Age of Conan sounds awesome but in reality it doesn't have that "crack" that gets people coming back for more.
Does Darkfall have this "crack"? We don't know yet. But do I understand that Darkfall is not very popular on these forums because..
1. AoC players are mostly graphics nuts (and graphics in Darkfall are pretty bad)
2. Darkfall is a threat to AoC because both games compete for same players
I think it would probably be more fair if you were to pit Darkfall vs. Yars' Revenge... those animations are flat out horrible.
The sad thing is, I have never played DF and don't intend to any time soon but I think I would have more fun playing it than any level after 30 in AOC. In fact I can guarantee it, DF is at least full of griefing potential, from what I have seen, which is half of my fun in any online game.
AOC sucks, DF probably sucks, the fat kids are taking their frustrations out on the skinny little nerds, that is what I am understanding here. "We can't compete with the better kids so we must go for the weak.... uh ..er"
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and you better care
Yeah DF is far from the next WoW but at least they have massive battles and that's all I need.
In AoC you can't even have a decent 50vs50 without half the people lagging because of the graphics. That is not epic pvp EE promised us.
first time ever someone actually posted a clear, honest and straight to the point problem with AoC.
i agree, putting a high end requirement in an mmo is ridiculous. they should have put more tweeks on the video setting page for low end PCs.
first time ever someone actually posted a clear, honest and straight to the point problem with AoC.
i agree, putting a high end requirement in an mmo is ridiculous. they should have put more tweeks on the video setting page for low end PCs.
i know many low end PC users that can play the game. It's not what it was at launch. I'd say give it a try.
Vardar is right, the video DOES speak for itself. The video shows just how horribly weak and non-sustainable AoC is. AoC touted ALL of it's ability and "awesomeness" around it's enviroments and GFX, only to have it all fail because the game was based around open ended PVP (of which, btw, they ruined with the new murder system not allowing just "anyone" to be killed).
I agree with Vardar, AoC is a pile of rubbish, and Dark Fall needs a LOT more work. However, of the two it appears the video touts Dark Fall above AoC.
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first time ever someone actually posted a clear, honest and straight to the point problem with AoC.
Lol are you serious?
There has been tons of threads explaining all the different problems with AoC. Small instanced world, crafting, combos, sieges, etc. etc.
The maker of this video is clearly biased towards Age of Conan. He has combined the best of AoC and the worst of DF to make DF look bad.
Um. The DF video is a fluff video made and given out by the game's developers. The AoC video is a barbarian(the video creator) using fraps during one of their sieges. He's got more videos of sieges like that.
On a different note, I run AoC on an E5200 OCed from 2.5Ghz to 3.5Ghz, 4GB DDR2 ram, GTX 260 and I play the game at a steady FPS on nearly max settings(everything except ultra-quality shadows and on 4x AA at 1650x1080 res). It cost me $650 to build, excluding the monitor keyboard and mouse. It does cost money to have a system that is capable of really delivering the best of AoC, but the graphics are, with a doubt in my mind, so worth it.