Biased videos. At least they show a large amount of footage form both games. The AOC video is definately taken off of a high end computer. Never have I or any of my firneds played AoC that smoothly with 25+ people running around. Most of us had the Duo core 64 proccessors with the 8600gt vid car and 2 - 4 gb of ram. We could barely play the game on low settings.
You are a liar or your system is shit, and by that I mean you can have all the nicest hardware in the world if you have installed crap on it, or have done shit that has unoptimized it...
I played it on a nvidia6600 and a single core, and a 7800 after I replaced it, the 7800 was enough to get it to mid with some custom tweeks up, and the 6600 played it on low with draw distance cut down...
If you really had that hardware and didn't fuck it up it would run AoC fine...
Well, I'm definately not lying. What I'm stating is based off of about 5 different friends who all played the game. 3 could not play due to horrible frame rate. 2 could. Oddly the 2 that could had different PCs. One perosn had a 5 year old PC with a ton of ram. I think 4gb at the time. (which is a ton for a 5 year old PC) The other had your standard duo core computer with 4 gb ram and the 8800 Nvidia card.
Out of the 3 who could not play, 1 of us had an old junker. I have duo core AMD Athelon 64, Nvidia 7600, and 2 GB ram. I could not get above 19fps. The other person, who was not tech savy, just baught a new Dell. It's specs were close to mine and he could not get smooth gameplay either.
If you look at the really old AOC forum post on this site and the official site, you will see all sorts of complaints by people with new computers that just could not run the game smoothly. The game is (maybe was) horribly programed. It worked on only certian PCs and no one could figure out what the hell made the game run good. Maybe today AoC runs smoothly for everyone, but back in September (3 months after launch), I and many many people could not play not play.
Biased videos. At least they show a large amount of footage form both games. The AOC video is definately taken off of a high end computer. Never have I or any of my firneds played AoC that smoothly with 25+ people running around. Most of us had the Duo core 64 proccessors with the 8600gt vid car and 2 - 4 gb of ram. We could barely play the game on low settings.
You are a liar or your system is shit, and by that I mean you can have all the nicest hardware in the world if you have installed crap on it, or have done shit that has unoptimized it...
Well, I'm definately not lying. What I'm stating is based off of about 5 different friends who all played the game. 3 could not play due to horrible frame rate. 2 could. Oddly the 2 that could had different PCs. One perosn had a 5 year old PC with a ton of ram. I think 4gb at the time. (which is a ton for a 5 year old PC) The other had your standard duo core computer with 4 gb ram and the 8800 Nvidia card.
Didn't you hear? On this forum if you have technical issues you are either a liar, an idiot, or your system is shit.
Age of Conan is working perfectly. Yep, no problems with the code. Everything is just fine. Resubscribe please
Im sorry but if something is worth deleting topics and banning ppl on any MMO forums is someone is linking or/and creating videos that are supposed to show how good one game is compared to another. Now.... That might actually be ok if the video was comparing mounts or items or armors. But NOT when it comes to performance. Its so easy to manipulate bad framerates if you choose to do so. Just the fact that this topic is simply CREATED to ONLY show how one game is good while another is horrible is clear indication that the posters should not be allowed to post in the forums again.
Biased videos. At least they show a large amount of footage form both games. The AOC video is definately taken off of a high end computer. Never have I or any of my firneds played AoC that smoothly with 25+ people running around. Most of us had the Duo core 64 proccessors with the 8600gt vid car and 2 - 4 gb of ram. We could barely play the game on low settings.
You are a liar or your system is shit, and by that I mean you can have all the nicest hardware in the world if you have installed crap on it, or have done shit that has unoptimized it...
Well, I'm definately not lying. What I'm stating is based off of about 5 different friends who all played the game. 3 could not play due to horrible frame rate. 2 could. Oddly the 2 that could had different PCs. One perosn had a 5 year old PC with a ton of ram. I think 4gb at the time. (which is a ton for a 5 year old PC) The other had your standard duo core computer with 4 gb ram and the 8800 Nvidia card.
Didn't you hear? On this forum if you have technical issues you are either a liar, an idiot, or your system is shit.
Age of Conan is working perfectly. Yep, no problems with the code. Everything is just fine. Resubscribe please
Maybe you should use the same reasoning why Darkfall is showing bad performance from the orginal poster ? Oh... Wait.. Not convinient for you since you are only here to get ppl to buy a game that they have ABSOLUTLY NO idea is working on their computers. Time to put a warning post up on AOC forums and letting ppl know that now there is a campaign to con ppl to buy the game without a trial out - in the HOPE that the game could run on a low end pc....
Pathetic.... Just pathetic.
Free trial is created for a reason. And there is also a reason why there is no free trial yet. Maybe becuse Funcom is sending out one more PR campaign hoping they can rob few more gold out of ppl that then dont play ever again...
Lol. It was a promotion DF video which was taken for the movie. Actual DF has much worse look but siedges in it are just on another level comparing to AoC. 300-400 vs 30-40 - you know what people would chose...
Your wondering where the fail is? Lets see here, This is MMO RPG . com Massively, Multiplayer. AoC is not a Massively Multiplayer game, for several reason, one would be that a large portion of the community can't play the game on their system, and most people who do play had to make a computer JUST for it. That is pretty rediculous, WoW was successful just because everyone who wanted to play it could. What a great round of failure we've had this decade when it comes to MMOs! Darkfall not failing? Where have you been? Most of the things they promised are up in smoke and not in the good cheech and chong way. People might as WELL play AoC, IF they can run it. edit: Oh and before anyone says I'm just sad cus I can't play AoC, maybe I am? Maybe I'd like to but I can't afford to buy a whole new computer after I Just bought one two years ago. How pathetic is it they build agame a 2 y ear old computer can't run (and yes it was good when it was made)
Hmmm...I find it hard to believe this....
I run AoC just fine on a P4 3GHz with a Nvidia 6600GT graphics card. I have the videosettings on low or medium and
my fps is pretty low (15-25) but it is absolutely playable.
Lol. It was a promotion DF video which was taken for the movie. Actual DF has much worse look but siedges in it are just on another level comparing to AoC. 300-400 vs 30-40 - you know what people would chose...
Yeah who gives a shit about graphics when you can have massive battles of 200 vs. 200 and have tons of FUN?
Gameplay > graphics any day of the week. This is something Funcom doesn't understand since they are still spending most of their resources improving graphics (DX10) and ignoring players who are complaining about gameplay and content.
Maybe once the subs drop below 50k they will finally start to listen players.
Lol. It was a promotion DF video which was taken for the movie. Actual DF has much worse look but siedges in it are just on another level comparing to AoC. 300-400 vs 30-40 - you know what people would chose...
Yeah who gives a shit about graphics when you can have massive battles of 200 vs. 200 and have tons of FUN?
Gameplay > graphics any day of the week. This is something Funcom doesn't understand since they are still spending most of their resources improving graphics (DX10) and ignoring players who are complaining about gameplay and content.
Maybe once the subs drop below 50k they will finally start to listen players.
Numbers <> gameplay. 200 players having a 1 click zerg fest is not my idea of having fun
Numbers <> gameplay. 200 players having a 1 click zerg fest is not my idea of having fun
Maybe you should actually PLAY Darkfall before saying things like that?
It's the "Massive" in MMO's that many people like myself enjoy the most. Big battles are epic and fun. It's more about positioning and overall strategy than individual skills which is more realistic in my opinion.
Maybe you should actually PLAY Darkfall before saying things like that?
Are sales open again?
Sarcasm aside, I read reviews, saw screenshots and videos and it's just not my kind of game.
Hope it succeeds however. Contrary to a lot of people, I prefer to see games succeeding and evolving since this gives us all more choices of things to play.
Folks, the video referenced here was made as a joke, - as it was clearly confirmed by it's maker.
What people are making out of this comparison is beyond reasoning and once again some silly conglomerate of myth and outdated experience.
I'm playing (and actually liking without regret) both games on ALL of my current computers and I maybe can share some easy facts for you:
1. While AoC might have had some problems with certain hardware setups as well as with scaling in the beginning, this is the past. It was NEVER true it wasn#t playable on lower end systems, not even in the beginning, it was just hard to predict in it's inconsitent scaling at that time.
Today the game is running at least equally to the second example, DF on any hardware if set up accordingly. As a simple example, the machine I'm just writing on now is my notebook normally dedicated to work only, featuring the gaming-wonder nvidia 140M (if you don't know it, google it, it's absolute crap for gaming). On this very piece of art, I was fighting through a 48vs.48 siege this week, in 1680x1050 on low settings and without ANY major lagspike or perfromance issue.
2. DFs gfx are not even half as bad in reality and motion as they're told to be. The combat system might be rather easy in regards to features, but it's extremely involving and involves so much movement( no, not bunny hopping) that in combination it makes the rather basic animations disappear form focus in no time.
However, stating AoC needs the big muscle while DF is running on ANY equipment just great is either based on a serious lack of personal experience or a simple lie. DF with comparably high setting (including shadows, as that's when the gfx start to shine) is eating up just as much resources and NOT running higher frame rates as AoC on the same hardware.
3. Tuned down in gfx to accomodate high frame rate on dated or sub par hardware impacts the graphical appearance of both games. Nowadays (meant in reference to the development of AoC) they both scale quite similar in fact, and trust me, AoC on really low settings is as far form the visual pearl it can be as a tuned down DF is.
Make out of this whatever you want, For the absolute gfx whores, DF simply is not that ugly as it's told to be. For those putting gameplay over gfx, both these games actually can cater to that as well (yes, AoC as well) as they have quite some other things going for them (of all the MMORPGs alive and kicking at the moment, there is not a single one that would be just bad, - the rest is a matter of taste and individual preference).
Numbers <> gameplay. 200 players having a 1 click zerg fest is not my idea of having fun
Maybe you should actually PLAY Darkfall before saying things like that?
It's the "Massive" in MMO's that many people like myself enjoy the most. Big battles are epic and fun. It's more about positioning and overall strategy than individual skills which is more realistic in my opinion.
When i was in beta i said many times it s a clickfest, and abilities are well non existent. Sure some are there but it really is who can click faster, better latency, and well run around strafing like a kid on a caffeine high. People always say auto attack games have no skill. Positioning means some sure but theres as much strategy in that as in an autoattack game that have reactionary styles. Whats funny is now everyone that was saying theres tons of skills , etc etc, now are saying it s the positioning and strategy involved, no mention of abilities. That said if the above poster feels it a 1 click zerg fest he s right, in his opinion, and i ll back him up as someone who played the game. You feel it s different great, thats what makes the world interesting, were all different.
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You are a liar or your system is shit, and by that I mean you can have all the nicest hardware in the world if you have installed crap on it, or have done shit that has unoptimized it...
I played it on a nvidia6600 and a single core, and a 7800 after I replaced it, the 7800 was enough to get it to mid with some custom tweeks up, and the 6600 played it on low with draw distance cut down...
If you really had that hardware and didn't fuck it up it would run AoC fine...
Well, I'm definately not lying. What I'm stating is based off of about 5 different friends who all played the game. 3 could not play due to horrible frame rate. 2 could. Oddly the 2 that could had different PCs. One perosn had a 5 year old PC with a ton of ram. I think 4gb at the time. (which is a ton for a 5 year old PC) The other had your standard duo core computer with 4 gb ram and the 8800 Nvidia card.
Out of the 3 who could not play, 1 of us had an old junker. I have duo core AMD Athelon 64, Nvidia 7600, and 2 GB ram. I could not get above 19fps. The other person, who was not tech savy, just baught a new Dell. It's specs were close to mine and he could not get smooth gameplay either.
If you look at the really old AOC forum post on this site and the official site, you will see all sorts of complaints by people with new computers that just could not run the game smoothly. The game is (maybe was) horribly programed. It worked on only certian PCs and no one could figure out what the hell made the game run good. Maybe today AoC runs smoothly for everyone, but back in September (3 months after launch), I and many many people could not play not play.
You are a liar or your system is shit, and by that I mean you can have all the nicest hardware in the world if you have installed crap on it, or have done shit that has unoptimized it...
Well, I'm definately not lying. What I'm stating is based off of about 5 different friends who all played the game. 3 could not play due to horrible frame rate. 2 could. Oddly the 2 that could had different PCs. One perosn had a 5 year old PC with a ton of ram. I think 4gb at the time. (which is a ton for a 5 year old PC) The other had your standard duo core computer with 4 gb ram and the 8800 Nvidia card.
Didn't you hear? On this forum if you have technical issues you are either a liar, an idiot, or your system is shit.
Age of Conan is working perfectly. Yep, no problems with the code. Everything is just fine. Resubscribe please
Im sorry but if something is worth deleting topics and banning ppl on any MMO forums is someone is linking or/and creating videos that are supposed to show how good one game is compared to another. Now.... That might actually be ok if the video was comparing mounts or items or armors. But NOT when it comes to performance. Its so easy to manipulate bad framerates if you choose to do so. Just the fact that this topic is simply CREATED to ONLY show how one game is good while another is horrible is clear indication that the posters should not be allowed to post in the forums again.
Reported.
You are a liar or your system is shit, and by that I mean you can have all the nicest hardware in the world if you have installed crap on it, or have done shit that has unoptimized it...
Well, I'm definately not lying. What I'm stating is based off of about 5 different friends who all played the game. 3 could not play due to horrible frame rate. 2 could. Oddly the 2 that could had different PCs. One perosn had a 5 year old PC with a ton of ram. I think 4gb at the time. (which is a ton for a 5 year old PC) The other had your standard duo core computer with 4 gb ram and the 8800 Nvidia card.
Didn't you hear? On this forum if you have technical issues you are either a liar, an idiot, or your system is shit.
Age of Conan is working perfectly. Yep, no problems with the code. Everything is just fine. Resubscribe please
Maybe you should use the same reasoning why Darkfall is showing bad performance from the orginal poster ? Oh... Wait.. Not convinient for you since you are only here to get ppl to buy a game that they have ABSOLUTLY NO idea is working on their computers. Time to put a warning post up on AOC forums and letting ppl know that now there is a campaign to con ppl to buy the game without a trial out - in the HOPE that the game could run on a low end pc....
Pathetic.... Just pathetic.
Free trial is created for a reason. And there is also a reason why there is no free trial yet. Maybe becuse Funcom is sending out one more PR campaign hoping they can rob few more gold out of ppl that then dont play ever again...
Lol. It was a promotion DF video which was taken for the movie. Actual DF has much worse look but siedges in it are just on another level comparing to AoC. 300-400 vs 30-40 - you know what people would chose...
Hmmm...I find it hard to believe this....
I run AoC just fine on a P4 3GHz with a Nvidia 6600GT graphics card. I have the videosettings on low or medium and
my fps is pretty low (15-25) but it is absolutely playable.
Yeah who gives a shit about graphics when you can have massive battles of 200 vs. 200 and have tons of FUN?
Gameplay > graphics any day of the week. This is something Funcom doesn't understand since they are still spending most of their resources improving graphics (DX10) and ignoring players who are complaining about gameplay and content.
Maybe once the subs drop below 50k they will finally start to listen players.
Yeah who gives a shit about graphics when you can have massive battles of 200 vs. 200 and have tons of FUN?
Gameplay > graphics any day of the week. This is something Funcom doesn't understand since they are still spending most of their resources improving graphics (DX10) and ignoring players who are complaining about gameplay and content.
Maybe once the subs drop below 50k they will finally start to listen players.
Numbers <> gameplay. 200 players having a 1 click zerg fest is not my idea of having fun
Numbers <> gameplay. 200 players having a 1 click zerg fest is not my idea of having fun
Maybe you should actually PLAY Darkfall before saying things like that?
It's the "Massive" in MMO's that many people like myself enjoy the most. Big battles are epic and fun. It's more about positioning and overall strategy than individual skills which is more realistic in my opinion.
Are sales open again?
Sarcasm aside, I read reviews, saw screenshots and videos and it's just not my kind of game.
Hope it succeeds however. Contrary to a lot of people, I prefer to see games succeeding and evolving since this gives us all more choices of things to play.
Folks, the video referenced here was made as a joke, - as it was clearly confirmed by it's maker.
What people are making out of this comparison is beyond reasoning and once again some silly conglomerate of myth and outdated experience.
I'm playing (and actually liking without regret) both games on ALL of my current computers and I maybe can share some easy facts for you:
1. While AoC might have had some problems with certain hardware setups as well as with scaling in the beginning, this is the past. It was NEVER true it wasn#t playable on lower end systems, not even in the beginning, it was just hard to predict in it's inconsitent scaling at that time.
Today the game is running at least equally to the second example, DF on any hardware if set up accordingly. As a simple example, the machine I'm just writing on now is my notebook normally dedicated to work only, featuring the gaming-wonder nvidia 140M (if you don't know it, google it, it's absolute crap for gaming). On this very piece of art, I was fighting through a 48vs.48 siege this week, in 1680x1050 on low settings and without ANY major lagspike or perfromance issue.
2. DFs gfx are not even half as bad in reality and motion as they're told to be. The combat system might be rather easy in regards to features, but it's extremely involving and involves so much movement( no, not bunny hopping) that in combination it makes the rather basic animations disappear form focus in no time.
However, stating AoC needs the big muscle while DF is running on ANY equipment just great is either based on a serious lack of personal experience or a simple lie. DF with comparably high setting (including shadows, as that's when the gfx start to shine) is eating up just as much resources and NOT running higher frame rates as AoC on the same hardware.
3. Tuned down in gfx to accomodate high frame rate on dated or sub par hardware impacts the graphical appearance of both games. Nowadays (meant in reference to the development of AoC) they both scale quite similar in fact, and trust me, AoC on really low settings is as far form the visual pearl it can be as a tuned down DF is.
Make out of this whatever you want, For the absolute gfx whores, DF simply is not that ugly as it's told to be. For those putting gameplay over gfx, both these games actually can cater to that as well (yes, AoC as well) as they have quite some other things going for them (of all the MMORPGs alive and kicking at the moment, there is not a single one that would be just bad, - the rest is a matter of taste and individual preference).
Numbers <> gameplay. 200 players having a 1 click zerg fest is not my idea of having fun
Maybe you should actually PLAY Darkfall before saying things like that?
It's the "Massive" in MMO's that many people like myself enjoy the most. Big battles are epic and fun. It's more about positioning and overall strategy than individual skills which is more realistic in my opinion.
When i was in beta i said many times it s a clickfest, and abilities are well non existent. Sure some are there but it really is who can click faster, better latency, and well run around strafing like a kid on a caffeine high. People always say auto attack games have no skill. Positioning means some sure but theres as much strategy in that as in an autoattack game that have reactionary styles. Whats funny is now everyone that was saying theres tons of skills , etc etc, now are saying it s the positioning and strategy involved, no mention of abilities. That said if the above poster feels it a 1 click zerg fest he s right, in his opinion, and i ll back him up as someone who played the game. You feel it s different great, thats what makes the world interesting, were all different.