A potential customer is just as good as a paying customer. Also id like to note wiseguy, everyone that is just as upset as myself that hasn't purchased anything from them...well thats not our fault now is it. The bottom line is they have shown almost no regaurd for their fan base and potential customers. So screw them. Im not rich but im not hurting for money either, I would have paid double if not triple to get a copy of the game just because it really does look like an awesome game. Also note I don't doubt the game is fantastic, however with the way I feel ive been treated they wont see my money. I know I am not the only one that feels that way either.
I think its a sad day in the MMO world when a game company can operate and treat customers the way Adventuretine has and people think its funny? Or that its acceptable? Very sad. The whole release of this game has been gross and its only getting worse. Well at least people didn't tell me to go back to playing WoW, thats my favorite retort on these forums. As if everyone must have played WoW and of course we must love it because we actually have a bad opinion about another game?!? How dare you. I don't beat around the bush... Adventuretine and Blizzard can both suck it.
Protip: Most games are close to fail on release but get better over time. Take a chill pill.
I'm not a fanboi either. Just seasoned enough to know to wait a few months after a game releases.
darkfall has its own level of fail unlike other releases
That is very true. There is fail and then there is Darkfail.
Well from what ive been told, DF will not have any new servers for another 2-3 weeks at best since they need revenue from Subs to pay for the new equipment! So basically this is all BS to stall and divert the backlash. Why not just be honest and say, we are a new company and completely broke, we were lucky to release the game at all...id actually back them on that and support them. Why not make the sales avaliable on a prime time when most people would have a fair shot at getting a copy? Also why continue to sell copies and cause huge queue times when you could have just been honest and people would have waited. People do not like being lied to...go ask Fun Con.
Well from what ive been told, DF will not have any new servers for another 2-3 weeks at best since they need revenue from Subs to pay for the new equipment! So basically this is all BS to stall and divert the backlash. Why not just be honest and say, we are a new company and completely broke, we were lucky to release the game at all...id actually back them on that and support them. Why not make the sales avaliable on a prime time when most people would have a fair shot at getting a copy? Also why continue to sell copies and cause huge queue times when you could have just been honest and people would have waited. People do not like being lied to...go ask Fun Con.
because they wanna keep up the act that theyr letting in 1k people per day and that everything is going just fine so the hardcore fanboys wont start to cry theyr giving it there all to convince them selfs this game isint going to fail or the fanbots will start to be depressed and say i wont play any mmorpgs!!11 im gooing home! wah wha lol
Well from what ive been told, DF will not have any new servers for another 2-3 weeks at best since they need revenue from Subs to pay for the new equipment! So basically this is all BS to stall and divert the backlash. Why not just be honest and say, we are a new company and completely broke, we were lucky to release the game at all...id actually back them on that and support them. Why not make the sales avaliable on a prime time when most people would have a fair shot at getting a copy? Also why continue to sell copies and cause huge queue times when you could have just been honest and people would have waited. People do not like being lied to...go ask Fun Con.
To be fair, they are located in Greece and thus fall under a different time zone. That's why for those of us located in the US, the purchase time falls under working hours.
Also, this release is technically a European release as they are planning to add US-based servers later. Although they are allowing people from other countries purchase the game.
On the other hand, everything about this release, if you can even call it that, has been botched up. I mean every possible thing that could've gone wrong, did.
My dumb a$$ has been patiently waiting for 2 weeks to buy this game like so many others. Its bad enough they have this limited sales. Its bad enough these sales are during the normal working time for most people, thus only jobless people or kids home from school can buy it. Its bad enough they have NO SALES during the weekend when its more fair for everyone to have a chance to get a copy. Now im off Friday, Saturday and Sunday...they are not having more copies this Friday and of course the whole weekend?!? You know what Adventuretine...im finally reading the writing on the wall and listening to my gut and avoiding your company like the black plague. Like the title says, suck it. I hope your game company closes up and your all jobless.
lol this game is gonna be rememberd as the biggest mmorpg failure in history
You have a lot to learn my friend.
Playing: Xsyon. Played: Tried: Ultima Online, Everquest 2, Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures, Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning, Flyff, Perfect World, Silkroad Online, EVE Online, Ryzom.
I think its a sad day in the MMO world when a game company can operate and treat customers the way Adventuretine has and people think its funny? Or that its acceptable? Very sad. The whole release of this game has been gross and its only getting worse. Well at least people didn't tell me to go back to playing WoW, thats my favorite retort on these forums. As if everyone must have played WoW and of course we must love it because we actually have a bad opinion about another game?!? How dare you. I don't beat around the bush... Adventuretine and Blizzard can both suck it.
I think its a sad day in the real world when us as consumers feel that we are entilted to a service and/or any company owes us anything without us ever paying a dime. As crappy as the ordering process is, Adventurine has no obligation to create a service that fits your specific needs. This may lose money for them, but that is their problem, not yours. We as consumers have no right to decide whether or not this is acceptable as the service they are providing is a luxury, not a necessity.
What a complete load of crap.
A company advertises their product to attract interest from potential customers so those potential customers will purchase said product. If the company fails to deliver in any way shape or form they can and should expect negative feedback and some will be more vocal then others depending on how much the person feels they were mislead.
Trying to make it the gamers fault for expecting a company to deliver on their promise is why we see such crappy games being released. Stop trying to deflect blame. Instead of holding develpers accountable for the crap MMOs they produce by not catering to (buying) their product, some gamers will just swallow anything then ask for more. The sad part is as they get the crap MMOs they ask for by enabling shoddy work the rest of us get it as well.
It's just horrific customer service, and popular demand. For the approx. 10k subs and online retail, they've could have easily brought up another server. Not to mention tha lack in, public expectation. They've seriously under esemated the demand on thier product (did they just think thier friend would play, and have they not read any forum hype, EVER).
I think its a sad day in the MMO world when a game company can operate and treat customers the way Adventuretine has and people think its funny? Or that its acceptable? Very sad. The whole release of this game has been gross and its only getting worse. Well at least people didn't tell me to go back to playing WoW, thats my favorite retort on these forums. As if everyone must have played WoW and of course we must love it because we actually have a bad opinion about another game?!? How dare you. I don't beat around the bush... Adventuretine and Blizzard can both suck it.
Go back to WoW.
Sorry, had to say it, lol.
On a side note, I really don't think Aventurine's treatment of its customers has been all that bad. They've lied about a lot of features, granted, but they fessed up to them later, before release. Everyone who bought the game knew, or had the resources made available to them so that they could know, what they were buying. I prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt as they are a small independent company with a game that has such mass appeal that they can't handle the demand. Their systems haven't been working properly but they've been working as hard as they can to get them operating smoothly. No one wants the game to succeed more than they do, obviously. They've just gotten off to a rough start. I understand you're pissed that you can't get the game this weekend. My vacation starts saturday. I was hoping to have a copy by then so I could waste a good chunk of my time on the game. Unfortunately, they're not selling copies and that seems like the right move considering how much talk of queue times there's been. To be honest, you're better off waiting until the game is readily available 24/7 for purchase before buying it, anyway. Then not only will you avoid all the stress of the buying mini-game but chances are it will have a lot of bugs fixed and be a better game overall.
What I'm trying to say, basically, is settle down and relax; you'll get your chance to play if you wait for it. Oh, and go back to WoW. :P
Doctor Tasos, we have an ex-fanbot who has seen the light! Quick, get the Sandbox Anesthetic and the Full-Loot PvP drugs! We need to get him back, lest he tells us to suck it!
My dumb a$$ has been patiently waiting for 2 weeks to buy this game like so many others. Its bad enough they have this limited sales. Its bad enough these sales are during the normal working time for most people, thus only jobless people or kids home from school can buy it. Its bad enough they have NO SALES during the weekend when its more fair for everyone to have a chance to get a copy. Now im off Friday, Saturday and Sunday...they are not having more copies this Friday and of course the whole weekend?!? You know what Adventuretine...im finally reading the writing on the wall and listening to my gut and avoiding your company like the black plague. Like the title says, suck it. I hope your game company closes up and your all jobless.
I'm with you. The company really really does suck, but I'm gonna end up buying the game anyway.
I think its a sad day in the real world when us as consumers feel that we are entilted to a service and/or any company owes us anything without us ever paying a dime. As crappy as the ordering process is, Adventurine has no obligation to create a service that fits your specific needs. This may lose money for them, but that is their problem, not yours. We as consumers have no right to decide whether or not this is acceptable as the service they are providing is a luxury, not a necessity.
I really do feel sorry for the OP. He's made the majority of his posts waiting patiently for Darkfall to sell him a copy, and saying how eagerly he's been looking forward to it.
Oh wait... his entire post history is practically all "Dude, where's my copy?" "Dude, where's my copy?" "Dude, where's my copy?" "Dude, where's my copy?", with little hint of how much he's looking forward to playing it. Reminds me of that little kid in the Bugs Bunny cartoon with the hammer, slamming that rabbit on the head yelling "I wanna Easta Egg! I wanna Easta Egg! I wanna Easta Egg!"
Well, he's been waiting for Darkfall anyways. Not patiently, but waiting. Guess it's obvious he didn't believe Tasos when they posted there would be a "limited release" and first come, first served.
Here's to those who don't plan ahead when pre-orders are announced, and complain later!
I really do feel sorry for the OP. He's made the majority of his posts waiting patiently for Darkfall to sell him a copy, and saying how eagerly he's been looking forward to it.
Oh wait... his entire post history is practically all "Dude, where's my copy?" "Dude, where's my copy?" "Dude, where's my copy?" "Dude, where's my copy?", with little hint of how much he's looking forward to playing it. Reminds me of that little kid in the Bugs Bunny cartoon with the hammer, slamming that rabbit on the head yelling "I wanna Easta Egg! I wanna Easta Egg! I wanna Easta Egg!"
Well, he's been waiting for Darkfall anyways. Not patiently, but waiting. Guess it's obvious he didn't believe Tasos when they posted there would be a "limited release" and first come, first served.
Here's to those who don't plan ahead when pre-orders are announced, and complain later!
Cheers!
Sad thing is, preorder link was leaked and 50% of the accounts went to gold farmers.
"Like the title says, suck it. I hope your game company closes up and your all jobless."
The sad thing is this will most likely happen because of the fanbase they've decided to cater to but what the hell, I'm not necessarily going to miss them but its a shame because this game reeked of potential to the point where people were questioning its existence and said people were shown up as idiots like they should.
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
A company advertises their product to attract interest from potential customers so those potential customers will purchase said product. If the company fails to deliver in any way shape or form they can and should expect negative feedback and some will be more vocal then others depending on how much the person feels they were mislead.
Trying to make it the gamers fault for expecting a company to deliver on their promise is why we see such crappy games being released. Stop trying to deflect blame. Instead of holding develpers accountable for the crap MMOs they produce by not catering to (buying) their product, some gamers will just swallow anything then ask for more. The sad part is as they get the crap MMOs they ask for by enabling shoddy work the rest of us get it as well.
Now thats what my dumb a$$ was trying to say basically. Thank you. I want to point out too, how freaking stupid is DF to open their MMO with 1 server?!? The game has been in development like 8 years...are you kidding me? One server?!? Did they not realize how many customers they would have? Did they not do a pre sale? No excuse to not have a dozen servers at least to start. I hope it comes back to bite your pathetic company on the a$$.
And the most funny thing, is after spending a week pressing F5 every night, you try to log in and realize that you have to wait 40 minutes on the queue every time, only to be disconnected 10 minutes after finally logging in and have to queue again. Next morning you also realize that you have been charged 5 times.
Are you from NA? If you've settled down by the time the NA server comes out, maybe you could try it then.
I really want Aventurine to come through on their promise of letting players TRY the game before they buy it... I understand that in their current 'dilemma', they really don't have the option, but once they are back on their feet, they seriously need to implement a try before you buy.
That way, when the NA servers come out, you can painlessly try it for a week or so and decide whether or not the game overrules your experiences w/ Aventurine thus far.
_______________________________________________ Games looking forward to: Fallen Earth, Mortal Online
The noob formally not known as not being the formally not unkown known APEist; The Stone Cold Killer of Tarq.
My dumb a$$ has been patiently waiting for 2 weeks to buy this game like so many others. Its bad enough they have this limited sales. Its bad enough these sales are during the normal working time for most people, thus only jobless people or kids home from school can buy it. Its bad enough they have NO SALES during the weekend when its more fair for everyone to have a chance to get a copy. Now im off Friday, Saturday and Sunday...they are not having more copies this Friday and of course the whole weekend?!? You know what Adventuretine...im finally reading the writing on the wall and listening to my gut and avoiding your company like the black plague. Like the title says, suck it. I hope your game company closes up and your all jobless.
Add unprofessional GMs and rampant hacks to the list of FAIL. Worse than a private server. But at least a private server is f2p.
My dumb a$$ has been patiently waiting for 2 weeks to buy this game like so many others. Its bad enough they have this limited sales. Its bad enough these sales are during the normal working time for most people, thus only jobless people or kids home from school can buy it. Its bad enough they have NO SALES during the weekend when its more fair for everyone to have a chance to get a copy. Now im off Friday, Saturday and Sunday...they are not having more copies this Friday and of course the whole weekend?!? You know what Adventuretine...im finally reading the writing on the wall and listening to my gut and avoiding your company like the black plague. Like the title says, suck it. I hope your game company closes up and your all jobless.
someone give this kid a hankie and a change of underwear. hes cried and shit all over himself.
No, Darkfall is just so hardcore and awesome that it takes the Brown Note and does one better. Interesting, that's why the fanbots all smell like...
I think its a sad day in the MMO world when a game company can operate and treat customers the way Adventuretine has and people think its funny? Or that its acceptable? Very sad. The whole release of this game has been gross and its only getting worse. Well at least people didn't tell me to go back to playing WoW, thats my favorite retort on these forums. As if everyone must have played WoW and of course we must love it because we actually have a bad opinion about another game?!? How dare you. I don't beat around the bush... Adventuretine and Blizzard can both suck it.
Protip: Most games are close to fail on release but get better over time. Take a chill pill.
I'm not a fanboi either. Just seasoned enough to know to wait a few months after a game releases.
darkfall has its own level of fail unlike other releases
Its too early to predict. Eve was almost total disaster at start but eventually go around and is now a heaven for its current players. I think we should give the company a year or so before we judge. Of course I mean wait a year, not pay a year. Definitely not going to put in my limited gaming hours into this game until I see a tomorrow for it, and a tomorrow I feel like.
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A potential customer is just as good as a paying customer. Also id like to note wiseguy, everyone that is just as upset as myself that hasn't purchased anything from them...well thats not our fault now is it. The bottom line is they have shown almost no regaurd for their fan base and potential customers. So screw them. Im not rich but im not hurting for money either, I would have paid double if not triple to get a copy of the game just because it really does look like an awesome game. Also note I don't doubt the game is fantastic, however with the way I feel ive been treated they wont see my money. I know I am not the only one that feels that way either.
Protip: Most games are close to fail on release but get better over time. Take a chill pill.
I'm not a fanboi either. Just seasoned enough to know to wait a few months after a game releases.
darkfall has its own level of fail unlike other releases
That is very true. There is fail and then there is Darkfail.
Well from what ive been told, DF will not have any new servers for another 2-3 weeks at best since they need revenue from Subs to pay for the new equipment! So basically this is all BS to stall and divert the backlash. Why not just be honest and say, we are a new company and completely broke, we were lucky to release the game at all...id actually back them on that and support them. Why not make the sales avaliable on a prime time when most people would have a fair shot at getting a copy? Also why continue to sell copies and cause huge queue times when you could have just been honest and people would have waited. People do not like being lied to...go ask Fun Con.
because they wanna keep up the act that theyr letting in 1k people per day and that everything is going just fine so the hardcore fanboys wont start to cry theyr giving it there all to convince them selfs this game isint going to fail or the fanbots will start to be depressed and say i wont play any mmorpgs!!11 im gooing home! wah wha lol
To be fair, they are located in Greece and thus fall under a different time zone. That's why for those of us located in the US, the purchase time falls under working hours.
Also, this release is technically a European release as they are planning to add US-based servers later. Although they are allowing people from other countries purchase the game.
On the other hand, everything about this release, if you can even call it that, has been botched up. I mean every possible thing that could've gone wrong, did.
haha nice dude. screw darkfail.
You have a lot to learn my friend.
Playing: Xsyon.
Played:
Tried: Ultima Online, Everquest 2, Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures, Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning, Flyff, Perfect World, Silkroad Online, EVE Online, Ryzom.
I think its a sad day in the real world when us as consumers feel that we are entilted to a service and/or any company owes us anything without us ever paying a dime. As crappy as the ordering process is, Adventurine has no obligation to create a service that fits your specific needs. This may lose money for them, but that is their problem, not yours. We as consumers have no right to decide whether or not this is acceptable as the service they are providing is a luxury, not a necessity.
What a complete load of crap.
A company advertises their product to attract interest from potential customers so those potential customers will purchase said product. If the company fails to deliver in any way shape or form they can and should expect negative feedback and some will be more vocal then others depending on how much the person feels they were mislead.
Trying to make it the gamers fault for expecting a company to deliver on their promise is why we see such crappy games being released. Stop trying to deflect blame. Instead of holding develpers accountable for the crap MMOs they produce by not catering to (buying) their product, some gamers will just swallow anything then ask for more. The sad part is as they get the crap MMOs they ask for by enabling shoddy work the rest of us get it as well.
I couldn't have said it better!
It's just horrific customer service, and popular demand. For the approx. 10k subs and online retail, they've could have easily brought up another server. Not to mention tha lack in, public expectation. They've seriously under esemated the demand on thier product (did they just think thier friend would play, and have they not read any forum hype, EVER).
Go back to WoW.
Sorry, had to say it, lol.
On a side note, I really don't think Aventurine's treatment of its customers has been all that bad. They've lied about a lot of features, granted, but they fessed up to them later, before release. Everyone who bought the game knew, or had the resources made available to them so that they could know, what they were buying. I prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt as they are a small independent company with a game that has such mass appeal that they can't handle the demand. Their systems haven't been working properly but they've been working as hard as they can to get them operating smoothly. No one wants the game to succeed more than they do, obviously. They've just gotten off to a rough start. I understand you're pissed that you can't get the game this weekend. My vacation starts saturday. I was hoping to have a copy by then so I could waste a good chunk of my time on the game. Unfortunately, they're not selling copies and that seems like the right move considering how much talk of queue times there's been. To be honest, you're better off waiting until the game is readily available 24/7 for purchase before buying it, anyway. Then not only will you avoid all the stress of the buying mini-game but chances are it will have a lot of bugs fixed and be a better game overall.
What I'm trying to say, basically, is settle down and relax; you'll get your chance to play if you wait for it. Oh, and go back to WoW. :P
Troll?
Where?
Does it also have great AI?
I'm with you. The company really really does suck, but I'm gonna end up buying the game anyway.
Suck it Adventurtinettin
I think its a sad day in the real world when us as consumers feel that we are entilted to a service and/or any company owes us anything without us ever paying a dime. As crappy as the ordering process is, Adventurine has no obligation to create a service that fits your specific needs. This may lose money for them, but that is their problem, not yours. We as consumers have no right to decide whether or not this is acceptable as the service they are providing is a luxury, not a necessity.
Spin some more fool.
Adventuretine lawl
I really do feel sorry for the OP. He's made the majority of his posts waiting patiently for Darkfall to sell him a copy, and saying how eagerly he's been looking forward to it.
Oh wait... his entire post history is practically all "Dude, where's my copy?" "Dude, where's my copy?" "Dude, where's my copy?" "Dude, where's my copy?", with little hint of how much he's looking forward to playing it. Reminds me of that little kid in the Bugs Bunny cartoon with the hammer, slamming that rabbit on the head yelling "I wanna Easta Egg! I wanna Easta Egg! I wanna Easta Egg!"
Well, he's been waiting for Darkfall anyways. Not patiently, but waiting. Guess it's obvious he didn't believe Tasos when they posted there would be a "limited release" and first come, first served.
Here's to those who don't plan ahead when pre-orders are announced, and complain later!
Cheers!
"TO MICHAEL!"
Sad thing is, preorder link was leaked and 50% of the accounts went to gold farmers.
"Like the title says, suck it. I hope your game company closes up and your all jobless."
The sad thing is this will most likely happen because of the fanbase they've decided to cater to but what the hell, I'm not necessarily going to miss them but its a shame because this game reeked of potential to the point where people were questioning its existence and said people were shown up as idiots like they should.
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
What a complete load of crap.
A company advertises their product to attract interest from potential customers so those potential customers will purchase said product. If the company fails to deliver in any way shape or form they can and should expect negative feedback and some will be more vocal then others depending on how much the person feels they were mislead.
Trying to make it the gamers fault for expecting a company to deliver on their promise is why we see such crappy games being released. Stop trying to deflect blame. Instead of holding develpers accountable for the crap MMOs they produce by not catering to (buying) their product, some gamers will just swallow anything then ask for more. The sad part is as they get the crap MMOs they ask for by enabling shoddy work the rest of us get it as well.
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Now thats what my dumb a$$ was trying to say basically. Thank you. I want to point out too, how freaking stupid is DF to open their MMO with 1 server?!? The game has been in development like 8 years...are you kidding me? One server?!? Did they not realize how many customers they would have? Did they not do a pre sale? No excuse to not have a dozen servers at least to start. I hope it comes back to bite your pathetic company on the a$$.
And the most funny thing, is after spending a week pressing F5 every night, you try to log in and realize that you have to wait 40 minutes on the queue every time, only to be disconnected 10 minutes after finally logging in and have to queue again. Next morning you also realize that you have been charged 5 times.
Awesome launch!
I try to tell everyone I can that this game is totally lame but alas I can't get to every board. I will continue my efforts though!
Lol, that sucks man.
Are you from NA? If you've settled down by the time the NA server comes out, maybe you could try it then.
I really want Aventurine to come through on their promise of letting players TRY the game before they buy it... I understand that in their current 'dilemma', they really don't have the option, but once they are back on their feet, they seriously need to implement a try before you buy.
That way, when the NA servers come out, you can painlessly try it for a week or so and decide whether or not the game overrules your experiences w/ Aventurine thus far.
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Games looking forward to: Fallen Earth, Mortal Online
The noob formally not known as not being the formally not unkown known APEist; The Stone Cold Killer of Tarq.
Add unprofessional GMs and rampant hacks to the list of FAIL. Worse than a private server. But at least a private server is f2p.
Take the poll! Let your voice be heard.
someone give this kid a hankie and a change of underwear. hes cried and shit all over himself.
No, Darkfall is just so hardcore and awesome that it takes the Brown Note and does one better. Interesting, that's why the fanbots all smell like...
Protip: Most games are close to fail on release but get better over time. Take a chill pill.
I'm not a fanboi either. Just seasoned enough to know to wait a few months after a game releases.
darkfall has its own level of fail unlike other releases
Its too early to predict. Eve was almost total disaster at start but eventually go around and is now a heaven for its current players. I think we should give the company a year or so before we judge. Of course I mean wait a year, not pay a year. Definitely not going to put in my limited gaming hours into this game until I see a tomorrow for it, and a tomorrow I feel like.