I've been following games like this for ages, only I half to agree with the OP in the respects that it isn't for everyone. I myself can't stand getting ganked/bad graphics/bad spell effects/bad animations. From what I seen in the darkfall videos it seemed very dull, might be fun for full loot and the adrenaline rush of being on 1 hp and being saved by some crazy archer perched in a tree lol. However, from what I could see it seemed too dull for me (I say dull as in it doesn't fit my requirements.) For me Aion will be what I look forward to and I'll look forward to people bashing the hell out of it, as that's what people are good for. Darkfall IMO fails to me, however it rocks to those who love PvP non stop. However, that doesn't mean making threads saying 'This is the best game EVUR!" or "This game is the worse game of all time!" it's all opinion. Those of you who have to make a thread to feel competent, well sorry but, honestly you're tards. Credibility? Oh fuck credibility, after the last election IMO that shouldn't be a factor. Credibility, playing MMO's for basically your entire life, and you have a say. Well I've done pretty much just that lol, I'd say th game is bad, does that mean I'm right? HELL NO! That just means I'm not into this type of game, just like I'd say WoW fails. Yeah, I said it! Good games to me ? Diablo series, City of Heroes/Villains (loved the PvE), Dark Ages of Camelot (What wasn't there to love about it?). Those games for me held flavor, and I hope that Aion holds the same substance as those games and delivers. So, now can we drop all this hate/love. Instead lets discuss why we don't like the games and why we like them, kill fanboyism altogether. Otherwise your doing nothing but posting an opinion and that's it, and to most that is really damn pointless. There should be a law in tact that says only reviews should be accepted under a forum post haha. That way there aren't threads like zomg this game kicks IRL's ass(in real life) or this game makes me kill kittens and bunnies! Instead what you get is a LIST of reasons as to why a game is bad or good in the form of a review. Please, gods of the forum, please, I beg of you to consider the law ! Haha, have a good one guys.
If you haven't played the game, your opinion is null and void. Again, like I said to the OP, man up and fork out the $50 and formulate your own opinion rather than base your existence on secondary information.
I have plenty of games that I don't play (especially MMOs). I can afford to do my own research because I am a true gamer at heart and the only way to truly know if a game is worth it or not is to PLAY IT.
I can see how some of you can't really afford to buy your own games so you must pick and choose. That's fine. No problem with that. But, please, if you are going to post any shit about a game, do it based on your own play time. If you respond to this and still say Darkfall is shit and you've played it, that's cool. At least you formulated your own opinion and I have much respect for you.
I've beein in darkfall a week, and love every second of it. Its Shadowbane with Morrowind combat, and UO items/spells. People are upset because this is the worst launch in MMO history. Yeah the worst launch part can't really be debated (it came out last month, and you can't even buy the game, and if you do have it the servers are FUBAR right now). But tech problems aside I will say darkfall is an AMAZING game.
I've been following games like this for ages, only I half to agree with the OP in the respects that it isn't for everyone. I myself can't stand getting ganked/bad graphics/bad spell effects/bad animations. From what I seen in the darkfall videos it seemed very dull, might be fun for full loot and the adrenaline rush of being on 1 hp and being saved by some crazy archer perched in a tree lol. However, from what I could see it seemed too dull for me (I say dull as in it doesn't fit my requirements.) For me Aion will be what I look forward to and I'll look forward to people bashing the hell out of it, as that's what people are good for. Darkfall IMO fails to me, however it rocks to those who love PvP non stop. However, that doesn't mean making threads saying 'This is the best game EVUR!" or "This game is the worse game of all time!" it's all opinion. Those of you who have to make a thread to feel competent, well sorry but, honestly you're tards. Credibility? Oh fuck credibility, after the last election IMO that shouldn't be a factor. Credibility, playing MMO's for basically your entire life, and you have a say. Well I've done pretty much just that lol, I'd say th game is bad, does that mean I'm right? HELL NO! That just means I'm not into this type of game, just like I'd say WoW fails. Yeah, I said it! Good games to me ? Diablo series, City of Heroes/Villains (loved the PvE), Dark Ages of Camelot (What wasn't there to love about it?). Those games for me held flavor, and I hope that Aion holds the same substance as those games and delivers. So, now can we drop all this hate/love. Instead lets discuss why we don't like the games and why we like them, kill fanboyism altogether. Otherwise your doing nothing but posting an opinion and that's it, and to most that is really damn pointless. There should be a law in tact that says only reviews should be accepted under a forum post haha. That way there aren't threads like zomg this game kicks IRL's ass(in real life) or this game makes me kill kittens and bunnies! Instead what you get is a LIST of reasons as to why a game is bad or good in the form of a review. Please, gods of the forum, please, I beg of you to consider the law ! Haha, have a good one guys.
If you haven't played the game, your opinion is null and void. Again, like I said to the OP, man up and fork out the $50 and formulate your own opinion rather than base your existence on secondary information.
I have plenty of games that I don't play (especially MMOs). I can afford to do my own research because I am a true gamer at heart and the only way to truly know if a game is worth it or not is to PLAY IT.
I can see how some of you can't really afford to buy your own games so you must pick and choose. That's fine. No problem with that. But, please, if you are going to post any shit about a game, do it based on your own play time. If you respond to this and still say Darkfall is shit and you've played it, that's cool. At least you formulated your own opinion and I have much respect for you.
Lol that's what I was saying dumbass, it's all opinion... I wasn't saying it was bad because I had played it ^^. I said it's not my flavor of game from what I've seen of beta/ingame videos. That's it. Don't get all fanboy on me, read my post and READ it carefully, it was all my opinion. If you had read it competently you'd have gotten that, apparently you have to be above average intelligence to read a forum post right /apologise. Full loot doesn't appeal to me end of story and I went and posted what kind of games I liked and what I looked forward to. Hopefully showing you guys as to WHY I feel that way and that I like keeping meh loots!
Everyone's got a right to their opinion, but I notice you have another thread about how the community didn't answer your questions about the game. I have a feeling that you played for an hour, had trouble with the interface and controls and asked in chat and because you didn't get an answer you're quitting and stomping off. Your opinion is valid, it's just not an educated opinion because you haven't played the game very much. Of course that doesn't stop the majority of posters here from bashing the game without playing it, or playing it for a half hour. I quit a lot of games, if you don't want to give it a try sell the game to someone and move on.
I was asking questions relating to technical problems I was encountering in-game. I've played the game off-and on since day 1. I havent been hard core because RL has kept my somewhat busy, but that's irrelevant. Assuming I haven't played the game because I bash it or praise it is just an underhanded way of trying to discount my opinion.
Welcome to the Darkfall Forums on mmorpg.com, where the only way fans can handle any negative opinion of the game is by falling all over themselves trying to dismiss it by bashing the poster at 100 cliche's per minute.
You got the most common ones right out of the gate... You're a "WoW playing" "carebear" who "hasn't played the game"... and "an idiot"... And all on the first page! Pretty good!
Cliche's aside, look at what the guy titled the thread, and what the body of his OP was. Haters are just as stupid and asinine as supporters (there are a few exceptions, then again the same applies to the other side as well), and to make it worse both sides have a holier-than-thou attitude about it. Good God and good game, now shake hands.
I'm generally neutral in all of this, but the fans are in the right on this one. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the author deserves what he gets for trying to start a gunfight with a knife (a very dull knife at that). Best of luck to him, but I'll be the first to applaud when he gets hit by a trolly.
The sooner we get rid of people that make threads like this, the better this website will become; I say we start here.
Everyone's got a right to their opinion, but I notice you have another thread about how the community didn't answer your questions about the game. I have a feeling that you played for an hour, had trouble with the interface and controls and asked in chat and because you didn't get an answer you're quitting and stomping off. Your opinion is valid, it's just not an educated opinion because you haven't played the game very much. Of course that doesn't stop the majority of posters here from bashing the game without playing it, or playing it for a half hour. I quit a lot of games, if you don't want to give it a try sell the game to someone and move on.
I was asking questions relating to technical problems I was encountering in-game. I've played the game off-and on since day 1. I havent been hard core because RL has kept my somewhat busy, but that's irrelevant. Assuming I haven't played the game because I bash it or praise it is just an underhanded way of trying to discount my opinion.
Welcome to the Darkfall Forums on mmorpg.com, where the only way fans can handle any negative opinion of the game is by falling all over themselves trying to dismiss it by bashing the poster at 100 cliche's per minute.
You got the most common ones right out of the gate... You're a "WoW playing" "carebear" who "hasn't played the game"... and "an idiot"... And all on the first page! Pretty good!
Cliche's aside, look at what the guy titled the thread, and what the body of his OP was. Haters are just as stupid and asinine as supporters (there are a few exceptions, then again the same applies to the other side as well), and to make it worse both sides have a holier-than-thou attitude about it. Good God and good game, now shake hands.
I'm generally neutral in all of this, but the fans are in the right on this one. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the author deserves what he gets for trying to start a gunfight with a knife (a very dull knife at that). Best of luck to him, but I'll be the first to applaud when he gets hit by a trolly.
The sooner we get rid of people that make threads like this, the better this website will become; I say we start here.
I agreed all the way till you said the fans are right. They are also just as opinioniated as the haters. I think they both should be hit by a trolly. If there were a way to, I'd make it a law as I said to only post reviews, seriously, who cares if you like the damn game or don't? If you don't well good for you, if you do well good for you too. At least write a review as to WHY you liked/hated it, rank the gameplay/graphics/issues/support/features/zoning/customization etc...etc... In my previous post I said I hated the game due to full loot and that is true, which is why I won't buy the game, however you don't see me bitching about it in a post, instead I'm going to wait for a game that IS appealing to me. Don't waste your life hating on eachother it's not worth it.
Everyone's got a right to their opinion, but I notice you have another thread about how the community didn't answer your questions about the game. I have a feeling that you played for an hour, had trouble with the interface and controls and asked in chat and because you didn't get an answer you're quitting and stomping off. Your opinion is valid, it's just not an educated opinion because you haven't played the game very much. Of course that doesn't stop the majority of posters here from bashing the game without playing it, or playing it for a half hour. I quit a lot of games, if you don't want to give it a try sell the game to someone and move on.
I was asking questions relating to technical problems I was encountering in-game. I've played the game off-and on since day 1. I havent been hard core because RL has kept my somewhat busy, but that's irrelevant. Assuming I haven't played the game because I bash it or praise it is just an underhanded way of trying to discount my opinion.
Welcome to the Darkfall Forums on mmorpg.com, where the only way fans can handle any negative opinion of the game is by falling all over themselves trying to dismiss it by bashing the poster at 100 cliche's per minute.
You got the most common ones right out of the gate... You're a "WoW playing" "carebear" who "hasn't played the game"... and "an idiot"... And all on the first page! Pretty good!
Cliche's aside, look at what the guy titled the thread, and what the body of his OP was. Haters are just as stupid and asinine as supporters (there are a few exceptions, then again the same applies to the other side as well), and to make it worse both sides have a holier-than-thou attitude about it. Good God and good game, now shake hands.
I'm generally neutral in all of this, but the fans are in the right on this one. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the author deserves what he gets for trying to start a gunfight with a knife (a very dull knife at that). Best of luck to him, but I'll be the first to applaud when he gets hit by a trolly.
The sooner we get rid of people that make threads like this, the better this website will become; I say we start here.
I agreed all the way till you said the fans are right. They are also just as opinioniated as the haters. I think they both should be hit by a trolly. If there were a way to, I'd make it a law as I said to only post reviews, seriously, who cares if you like the damn game or don't? If you don't well good for you, if you do well good for you too. At least write a review as to WHY you liked/hated it, rank the gameplay/graphics/issues/support/features/zoning/customization etc...etc... In my previous post I said I hated the game due to full loot and that is true, which is why I won't buy the game, however you don't see me bitching about it in a post, instead I'm going to wait for a game that IS appealing to me. Don't waste your life hating on eachother it's not worth it.
I agree that both sides should be hit, but in this case I feel it more important that it happens to the haters for being exactly what they accuse the fans of being. Honestly, it's time to practice what you preach people, especially Parrotpholk one page back. Looks like the fans aren't the only missing link.
Everyone's got a right to their opinion, but I notice you have another thread about how the community didn't answer your questions about the game. I have a feeling that you played for an hour, had trouble with the interface and controls and asked in chat and because you didn't get an answer you're quitting and stomping off. Your opinion is valid, it's just not an educated opinion because you haven't played the game very much. Of course that doesn't stop the majority of posters here from bashing the game without playing it, or playing it for a half hour. I quit a lot of games, if you don't want to give it a try sell the game to someone and move on.
Exactly my point, his whole "counter argument" to me biting into his previous MMO experience is that the ONLY one he listed was UO. I'm sorry, but you need to hang around the MMO-pool just a teeny-bit longer before you make outrageous and un-educated statements about a game.
There are over 20 Free-2-Play korean grinders that are SEVERAL times worse than any main-steam released MMO's that got bad wraps. The worst one so far has been Dark&Light, that ironically, within the past 8 months, tanked it's servers completely.
Comparing F2P with mainstream games is failure. Compare DF to other mainstreams. As for being 26, are you sure? Your profile says otherwise and your posts certainly have not reached high school.
I've been following games like this for ages, only I half to agree with the OP in the respects that it isn't for everyone. I myself can't stand getting ganked/bad graphics/bad spell effects/bad animations. From what I seen in the darkfall videos it seemed very dull, might be fun for full loot and the adrenaline rush of being on 1 hp and being saved by some crazy archer perched in a tree lol. However, from what I could see it seemed too dull for me (I say dull as in it doesn't fit my requirements.) For me Aion will be what I look forward to and I'll look forward to people bashing the hell out of it, as that's what people are good for. Darkfall IMO fails to me, however it rocks to those who love PvP non stop. However, that doesn't mean making threads saying 'This is the best game EVUR!" or "This game is the worse game of all time!" it's all opinion. Those of you who have to make a thread to feel competent, well sorry but, honestly you're tards. Credibility? Oh fuck credibility, after the last election IMO that shouldn't be a factor. Credibility, playing MMO's for basically your entire life, and you have a say. Well I've done pretty much just that lol, I'd say th game is bad, does that mean I'm right? HELL NO! That just means I'm not into this type of game, just like I'd say WoW fails. Yeah, I said it! Good games to me ? Diablo series, City of Heroes/Villains (loved the PvE), Dark Ages of Camelot (What wasn't there to love about it?). Those games for me held flavor, and I hope that Aion holds the same substance as those games and delivers. So, now can we drop all this hate/love. Instead lets discuss why we don't like the games and why we like them, kill fanboyism altogether. Otherwise your doing nothing but posting an opinion and that's it, and to most that is really damn pointless. There should be a law in tact that says only reviews should be accepted under a forum post haha. That way there aren't threads like zomg this game kicks IRL's ass(in real life) or this game makes me kill kittens and bunnies! Instead what you get is a LIST of reasons as to why a game is bad or good in the form of a review. Please, gods of the forum, please, I beg of you to consider the law ! Haha, have a good one guys.
If you haven't played the game, your opinion is null and void. Again, like I said to the OP, man up and fork out the $50 and formulate your own opinion rather than base your existence on secondary information.
I have plenty of games that I don't play (especially MMOs). I can afford to do my own research because I am a true gamer at heart and the only way to truly know if a game is worth it or not is to PLAY IT.
I can see how some of you can't really afford to buy your own games so you must pick and choose. That's fine. No problem with that. But, please, if you are going to post any shit about a game, do it based on your own play time. If you respond to this and still say Darkfall is shit and you've played it, that's cool. At least you formulated your own opinion and I have much respect for you.
This is total bullshit. The OP has clearly stated he sees DF as the worst thing he ever came across. He does not elaborate, making that a view unsubstantiate, but a view nonetheless and he has all the rights to formulate it. Whether he care to explain to you is his business and whether you agree to it is yours.
But to say he has to pay $50 in order to be able to formulate an opinion is total nonsense. If everyone must pay to comment, every new business will be swarmed with cash, and we all are broke. So what will be your next argument, if he pays $50 and hates it? Does he need to pay $50 and sub till all new expansions are out before he can gave an opinion? How stupid can your argument goes?
Does the doctor need to base his prescriptions on his prior history of illness. So a doctor who never has AIDS cannot talk about AIDS? Do I need to burn myself before telling my kids that burning hurts? This company has all signs of irregularity show thru their skin, why would the OP not be entitled to feel alarmed? I feel alarmed and I am willing to express my alarm b/c Aventurine does not look like a solid reliable and trustworthy producer. Will you buy a car from a manufacturer who announced that their car can fly over water and then deliver you a bicycle that you can look at thru the shopping window but cannot buy, b/c they say they are having troubles filling in your order form?
Call me WoW player, carebear, whatever you wish. Apart from labelling opponents, I see no other valid argument from the supporters, which further deepens my concern that this game; a game requires a "reasonable" community to play out. What are the odd that DF can satisfy my gaming interests, I wonder. But that is history anyway. For me DF is history, for now at least.
Everyone's got a right to their opinion, but I notice you have another thread about how the community didn't answer your questions about the game. I have a feeling that you played for an hour, had trouble with the interface and controls and asked in chat and because you didn't get an answer you're quitting and stomping off. Your opinion is valid, it's just not an educated opinion because you haven't played the game very much. Of course that doesn't stop the majority of posters here from bashing the game without playing it, or playing it for a half hour. I quit a lot of games, if you don't want to give it a try sell the game to someone and move on.
I was asking questions relating to technical problems I was encountering in-game. I've played the game off-and on since day 1. I havent been hard core because RL has kept my somewhat busy, but that's irrelevant. Assuming I haven't played the game because I bash it or praise it is just an underhanded way of trying to discount my opinion.
Welcome to the Darkfall Forums on mmorpg.com, where the only way fans can handle any negative opinion of the game is by falling all over themselves trying to dismiss it by bashing the poster at 100 cliche's per minute.
You got the most common ones right out of the gate... You're a "WoW playing" "carebear" who "hasn't played the game"... and "an idiot"... And all on the first page! Pretty good!
So when does it stop being a cliche when it's actually true? The sad reality is more than half of the bashers of most newer MMO's are indeed WoW-Fanbois whom are looking for a new game because they are bored with their "best game ever".
Just because you disagree with the fact that it' said so much to trolls and whiney kids does NOT discredit the fact it is most probably true.
Please consider this the next time you talk about cliches and name calling !
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity: Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
Everyone's got a right to their opinion, but I notice you have another thread about how the community didn't answer your questions about the game. I have a feeling that you played for an hour, had trouble with the interface and controls and asked in chat and because you didn't get an answer you're quitting and stomping off. Your opinion is valid, it's just not an educated opinion because you haven't played the game very much. Of course that doesn't stop the majority of posters here from bashing the game without playing it, or playing it for a half hour. I quit a lot of games, if you don't want to give it a try sell the game to someone and move on.
I was asking questions relating to technical problems I was encountering in-game. I've played the game off-and on since day 1. I havent been hard core because RL has kept my somewhat busy, but that's irrelevant. Assuming I haven't played the game because I bash it or praise it is just an underhanded way of trying to discount my opinion.
Welcome to the Darkfall Forums on mmorpg.com, where the only way fans can handle any negative opinion of the game is by falling all over themselves trying to dismiss it by bashing the poster at 100 cliche's per minute.
You got the most common ones right out of the gate... You're a "WoW playing" "carebear" who "hasn't played the game"... and "an idiot"... And all on the first page! Pretty good!
So when does it stop being a cliche when it's actually true? The sad reality is more than half of the bashers of most newer MMO's are indeed WoW-Fanbois whom are looking for a new game because they are bored with their "best game ever".
Just because you disagree with the fact that it' said so much to trolls and whiney kids does NOT discredit the fact it is most probably true.
Please consider this the next time you talk about cliches and name calling !
Pls elaborate on your argument that more than half of the opponents are WoW players. Prove it. List the names of these people and how many hours each of these "bashers" play WoW. How many percent does that add to? it is over 50%, 50% of what? time? number of persons? Are they still currently WoW players? Most important of all, how do you obtain those statistics? You have no proof and you dare call it a reality. I call you a liar on this 100% liar.
You just throw up another personal accusation to settle a dispute. What a wise way, and how wise you are.
Everyone's got a right to their opinion, but I notice you have another thread about how the community didn't answer your questions about the game. I have a feeling that you played for an hour, had trouble with the interface and controls and asked in chat and because you didn't get an answer you're quitting and stomping off. Your opinion is valid, it's just not an educated opinion because you haven't played the game very much. Of course that doesn't stop the majority of posters here from bashing the game without playing it, or playing it for a half hour. I quit a lot of games, if you don't want to give it a try sell the game to someone and move on.
I was asking questions relating to technical problems I was encountering in-game. I've played the game off-and on since day 1. I havent been hard core because RL has kept my somewhat busy, but that's irrelevant. Assuming I haven't played the game because I bash it or praise it is just an underhanded way of trying to discount my opinion.
Welcome to the Darkfall Forums on mmorpg.com, where the only way fans can handle any negative opinion of the game is by falling all over themselves trying to dismiss it by bashing the poster at 100 cliche's per minute.
You got the most common ones right out of the gate... You're a "WoW playing" "carebear" who "hasn't played the game"... and "an idiot"... And all on the first page! Pretty good!
Cliche's aside, look at what the guy titled the thread, and what the body of his OP was. Haters are just as stupid and asinine as supporters (there are a few exceptions, then again the same applies to the other side as well), and to make it worse both sides have a holier-than-thou attitude about it. Good God and good game, now shake hands.
I'm generally neutral in all of this, but the fans are in the right on this one. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the author deserves what he gets for trying to start a gunfight with a knife (a very dull knife at that). Best of luck to him, but I'll be the first to applaud when he gets hit by a trolly.
The sooner we get rid of people that make threads like this, the better this website will become; I say we start here.
Do you think the response would have been much different had he phrased his opinions any other way?
Come on.
These *are* the DF forums and he'd have gotten the same kinds of responses no matter what he said. There's months of posts that bear that out. Criticism and negative opinions about DF or anything to do with it are not tolerated here. Ever.
And anyway, my response was addressing specifically his comment that I colored blue.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Everyone's got a right to their opinion, but I notice you have another thread about how the community didn't answer your questions about the game. I have a feeling that you played for an hour, had trouble with the interface and controls and asked in chat and because you didn't get an answer you're quitting and stomping off. Your opinion is valid, it's just not an educated opinion because you haven't played the game very much. Of course that doesn't stop the majority of posters here from bashing the game without playing it, or playing it for a half hour. I quit a lot of games, if you don't want to give it a try sell the game to someone and move on.
I was asking questions relating to technical problems I was encountering in-game. I've played the game off-and on since day 1. I havent been hard core because RL has kept my somewhat busy, but that's irrelevant. Assuming I haven't played the game because I bash it or praise it is just an underhanded way of trying to discount my opinion.
Welcome to the Darkfall Forums on mmorpg.com, where the only way fans can handle any negative opinion of the game is by falling all over themselves trying to dismiss it by bashing the poster at 100 cliche's per minute.
You got the most common ones right out of the gate... You're a "WoW playing" "carebear" who "hasn't played the game"... and "an idiot"... And all on the first page! Pretty good!
of course this will happen on the first page because the OP made a really stupid and irrational remark that just annoys people and the only reason im here is because im waiting to get through the queue for DARKFALL
And again... he'd have gotten the same kinds of responses no matter what he said, simply because he had negative things to say about a game that some here are freakishly protective of. And frankly, none of the cliche's used even challenge his point of view or ask him to qualify it. They don't ask "why do you think that?" or "what's so bad about it?"
Him saying the game is the worst game of the last ten years, etc... is his personal opinion. It's no more inflammatory than the people saying DF is the best game of the past 10 years, and all the other infomercial-like threads started to praise the game for every little thing they can.
The only difference is.. he "dared" to be critical.
He commented on the *game*. They responded by attacking *him* personally. Which is the typical behavior of many of the fans here. Ergo, Shadowbane 2.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Everyone's got a right to their opinion, but I notice you have another thread about how the community didn't answer your questions about the game. I have a feeling that you played for an hour, had trouble with the interface and controls and asked in chat and because you didn't get an answer you're quitting and stomping off. Your opinion is valid, it's just not an educated opinion because you haven't played the game very much. Of course that doesn't stop the majority of posters here from bashing the game without playing it, or playing it for a half hour. I quit a lot of games, if you don't want to give it a try sell the game to someone and move on.
I was asking questions relating to technical problems I was encountering in-game. I've played the game off-and on since day 1. I havent been hard core because RL has kept my somewhat busy, but that's irrelevant. Assuming I haven't played the game because I bash it or praise it is just an underhanded way of trying to discount my opinion.
Welcome to the Darkfall Forums on mmorpg.com, where the only way fans can handle any negative opinion of the game is by falling all over themselves trying to dismiss it by bashing the poster at 100 cliche's per minute.
You got the most common ones right out of the gate... You're a "WoW playing" "carebear" who "hasn't played the game"... and "an idiot"... And all on the first page! Pretty good!
So when does it stop being a cliche when it's actually true? The sad reality is more than half of the bashers of most newer MMO's are indeed WoW-Fanbois whom are looking for a new game because they are bored with their "best game ever".
Just because you disagree with the fact that it' said so much to trolls and whiney kids does NOT discredit the fact it is most probably true.
Please consider this the next time you talk about cliches and name calling !
Pls elaborate on your argument that more than half of the opponents are WoW players. Prove it. List the names of these people and how many hours each of these "bashers" play WoW. How many percent does that add to? it is over 50%, 50% of what? time? number of persons? Are they still currently WoW players? Most important of all, how do you obtain those statistics? You have no proof and you dare call it a reality. I call you a liar on this 100% liar.
You just throw up another personal accusation to settle a dispute. What a wise way, and how wise you are.
Look up Fadedbombs post history. Not only does he immediately assume everyone else on this site is a kid who plays WoW, he continually claims that people are comparing Darkfall to WoW when he is the ONLY one actually doing so. Fadedbomb you clearly have some unhealthy obsession with WoW and its subscribers, and its really fucking pathetic.
And again... he'd have gotten the same kinds of responses no matter what he said, simply because he had negative things to say about a game that some here are freakishly protective of. And frankly, none of the cliche's used even challenge his point of view or ask him to qualify it. They don't ask "why do you think that?" or "what's so bad about it?"
Him saying the game is the worst game of the last ten years, etc... is his personal opinion. It's no more inflammatory than the people saying DF is the best game of the past 10 years, and all the other infomercial-like threads started to praise the game for every little thing they can.
The only difference is.. he "dared" to be critical.
He commented on the game, and they attacked him personally.
Personally, I feel the OP made this thread for no other reason than to piss people off:
Initial Claim: "Absolutely the worst game of the last ten years..the worst MMO of all time!"
Message Following Initial Claim: "There I said it."
Where's the supporting facts? What exactly prompted this accusation? What, exactly, makes this game any worse than the next? Did the OP answer these questions? Nope...
He dared to be critical? How does one be critical without any supporting information? Critical (according to the definition) is a skillful evaluation of the truth. His outrageous claim was nothing more than a blunt statement. A blunt statement, mind you, that was intended to piss people off.
Until the OP can provide more information that supports his claim, he will not be taken seriously.
This thread should have been deleted a long time ago... from what I hear, harassment is not a good thing.
"Good people are good because they've come to wisdom through failure. We get very little wisdom from success, you know." William Saroyan
I think the amount of polish missing from DF, for a game that has been in development for ~8 years, is monumental. It strikes one as a very bad amateur attempt at making a game, rather than an organized effort by professionals.
I think the amount of polish missing from DF, for a game that has been in development for ~8 years, is monumental. It strikes one as a very bad amateur attempt at making a game, rather than an organized effort by professionals.
Whatever the devs of this game have or have not done, one thing I can say for sure, from my perspective, is that they have created a very entertaining game.
There are other games on the market that are more matured and polished without a doubt, but none of the current crop, in my opinion, is as enjoyable to play.
I guess that, to me at least, the actual enjoyment of playing a game trumps everything else.
to each, his own I guess. But to me, DF was a terrible let-down, after following it for 2+ years...
I am still unclear as to why you think so. Can you be a bit more specific, if you don't mind?
Because I encountered a game that failed to look 'professional' on every level; graphics were less than anticipated (and I never had high expectations, just what I would see in screenshots).
Gameplay was a shell of a game concept - basically grind mats to have spare sets of equipment in case you get ganked.
Sound - need I say more.
AI - what's so intelligent about it? Where are the migrating mobs, that live their life in the world? All I saw was mobs placed in spawn points, like in eveyr other MMO.
Gathering - really, one node-type everywhere? What happened to risk vs reward design (rarer node types spawning in more dangerous wilderness areas)?
World design - for alpha, quite good. But you can't have empty cities and static NPCs, really.
Combat - Diablo2 style combat. Nothing close to M&B, which was unofficially set as the expected standard.
to each, his own I guess. But to me, DF was a terrible let-down, after following it for 2+ years...
I am still unclear as to why you think so. Can you be a bit more specific, if you don't mind?
Because I encountered a game that failed to look 'professional' on every level; graphics were less than anticipated (and I never had high expectations, just what I would see in screenshots).
Ok, I disagee, but ok. (I have a very good system, though) and have solved the AA issue by using Nhanse, for my Nvidia card.
Gameplay was a shell of a game concept - basically grind mats to have spare sets of equipment in case you get ganked.
This hasn't been my experience, at all, but ok.
(Though I have been actively helping to build my clan city for the past week, but the work involved seems well worth the effort).
Sound - need I say more.
The individual sounds range from good to not so good, lol. But the way that the sound works within game is actually very good, imo. I like being able to zone in on activity, simply by listening to the direction from which the noise is coming.
AI - what's so intelligent about it? Where are the migrating mobs, that live their life in the world? All I saw was mobs placed in spawn points, like in eveyr other MMO.
There are, in fact, migrating mobs, in game.
There are also mobs that live in ruins, etc. Some of these ruins seem empty, as you pass by. But I have learned to poke around a bit, you never know what you might run into...
I am having fun with mob AI. There are some encounters that seem broken, but the ones that work, which seems to be the majority in my experience, is actually quite fun.
Gathering - really, one node-type everywhere? What happened to risk vs reward design (rarer node types spawning in more dangerous wilderness areas)?
This is kind of true, but I have noticed that the devs are tweaking them, as far as yields are concerned. I suppose their reasoning is that, as it is extremely easy to lose your gear, it probably would be a bit too hard core to make it extremely hard to replace it. Like EVE, in a way.
Besides, there are many mats, required for higher end crafting that are not readily available from nodes around starter cities. Check out the mats required for Plate, for instance.
World design - for alpha, quite good. But you can't have empty cities and static NPCs, really.
I understand why the NPC's are the way they are. More fawna would be nice and fluffy, but in reality, there are so many people running around, the cities are anything but empty...lol
Combat - Diablo2 style combat. Nothing close to M&B, which was unofficially set as the expected standard.
You do realize that the vast majority of all players are running around at basically newb skill level, even the macroers atm. I don't think we can actually judge the full complexity of the combat system at this time. Maybe in a few months we will have a clearer idea.
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If you haven't played the game, your opinion is null and void. Again, like I said to the OP, man up and fork out the $50 and formulate your own opinion rather than base your existence on secondary information.
I have plenty of games that I don't play (especially MMOs). I can afford to do my own research because I am a true gamer at heart and the only way to truly know if a game is worth it or not is to PLAY IT.
I can see how some of you can't really afford to buy your own games so you must pick and choose. That's fine. No problem with that. But, please, if you are going to post any shit about a game, do it based on your own play time. If you respond to this and still say Darkfall is shit and you've played it, that's cool. At least you formulated your own opinion and I have much respect for you.
I've beein in darkfall a week, and love every second of it. Its Shadowbane with Morrowind combat, and UO items/spells. People are upset because this is the worst launch in MMO history. Yeah the worst launch part can't really be debated (it came out last month, and you can't even buy the game, and if you do have it the servers are FUBAR right now). But tech problems aside I will say darkfall is an AMAZING game.
-Selek
If you haven't played the game, your opinion is null and void. Again, like I said to the OP, man up and fork out the $50 and formulate your own opinion rather than base your existence on secondary information.
I have plenty of games that I don't play (especially MMOs). I can afford to do my own research because I am a true gamer at heart and the only way to truly know if a game is worth it or not is to PLAY IT.
I can see how some of you can't really afford to buy your own games so you must pick and choose. That's fine. No problem with that. But, please, if you are going to post any shit about a game, do it based on your own play time. If you respond to this and still say Darkfall is shit and you've played it, that's cool. At least you formulated your own opinion and I have much respect for you.
Lol that's what I was saying dumbass, it's all opinion... I wasn't saying it was bad because I had played it ^^. I said it's not my flavor of game from what I've seen of beta/ingame videos. That's it. Don't get all fanboy on me, read my post and READ it carefully, it was all my opinion. If you had read it competently you'd have gotten that, apparently you have to be above average intelligence to read a forum post right /apologise. Full loot doesn't appeal to me end of story and I went and posted what kind of games I liked and what I looked forward to. Hopefully showing you guys as to WHY I feel that way and that I like keeping meh loots!
I was asking questions relating to technical problems I was encountering in-game. I've played the game off-and on since day 1. I havent been hard core because RL has kept my somewhat busy, but that's irrelevant. Assuming I haven't played the game because I bash it or praise it is just an underhanded way of trying to discount my opinion.
Welcome to the Darkfall Forums on mmorpg.com, where the only way fans can handle any negative opinion of the game is by falling all over themselves trying to dismiss it by bashing the poster at 100 cliche's per minute.
You got the most common ones right out of the gate... You're a "WoW playing" "carebear" who "hasn't played the game"... and "an idiot"... And all on the first page! Pretty good!
Cliche's aside, look at what the guy titled the thread, and what the body of his OP was. Haters are just as stupid and asinine as supporters (there are a few exceptions, then again the same applies to the other side as well), and to make it worse both sides have a holier-than-thou attitude about it. Good God and good game, now shake hands.
I'm generally neutral in all of this, but the fans are in the right on this one. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the author deserves what he gets for trying to start a gunfight with a knife (a very dull knife at that). Best of luck to him, but I'll be the first to applaud when he gets hit by a trolly.
The sooner we get rid of people that make threads like this, the better this website will become; I say we start here.
I was asking questions relating to technical problems I was encountering in-game. I've played the game off-and on since day 1. I havent been hard core because RL has kept my somewhat busy, but that's irrelevant. Assuming I haven't played the game because I bash it or praise it is just an underhanded way of trying to discount my opinion.
Welcome to the Darkfall Forums on mmorpg.com, where the only way fans can handle any negative opinion of the game is by falling all over themselves trying to dismiss it by bashing the poster at 100 cliche's per minute.
You got the most common ones right out of the gate... You're a "WoW playing" "carebear" who "hasn't played the game"... and "an idiot"... And all on the first page! Pretty good!
Cliche's aside, look at what the guy titled the thread, and what the body of his OP was. Haters are just as stupid and asinine as supporters (there are a few exceptions, then again the same applies to the other side as well), and to make it worse both sides have a holier-than-thou attitude about it. Good God and good game, now shake hands.
I'm generally neutral in all of this, but the fans are in the right on this one. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the author deserves what he gets for trying to start a gunfight with a knife (a very dull knife at that). Best of luck to him, but I'll be the first to applaud when he gets hit by a trolly.
The sooner we get rid of people that make threads like this, the better this website will become; I say we start here.
I agreed all the way till you said the fans are right. They are also just as opinioniated as the haters. I think they both should be hit by a trolly. If there were a way to, I'd make it a law as I said to only post reviews, seriously, who cares if you like the damn game or don't? If you don't well good for you, if you do well good for you too. At least write a review as to WHY you liked/hated it, rank the gameplay/graphics/issues/support/features/zoning/customization etc...etc... In my previous post I said I hated the game due to full loot and that is true, which is why I won't buy the game, however you don't see me bitching about it in a post, instead I'm going to wait for a game that IS appealing to me. Don't waste your life hating on eachother it's not worth it.
I was asking questions relating to technical problems I was encountering in-game. I've played the game off-and on since day 1. I havent been hard core because RL has kept my somewhat busy, but that's irrelevant. Assuming I haven't played the game because I bash it or praise it is just an underhanded way of trying to discount my opinion.
Welcome to the Darkfall Forums on mmorpg.com, where the only way fans can handle any negative opinion of the game is by falling all over themselves trying to dismiss it by bashing the poster at 100 cliche's per minute.
You got the most common ones right out of the gate... You're a "WoW playing" "carebear" who "hasn't played the game"... and "an idiot"... And all on the first page! Pretty good!
Cliche's aside, look at what the guy titled the thread, and what the body of his OP was. Haters are just as stupid and asinine as supporters (there are a few exceptions, then again the same applies to the other side as well), and to make it worse both sides have a holier-than-thou attitude about it. Good God and good game, now shake hands.
I'm generally neutral in all of this, but the fans are in the right on this one. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the author deserves what he gets for trying to start a gunfight with a knife (a very dull knife at that). Best of luck to him, but I'll be the first to applaud when he gets hit by a trolly.
The sooner we get rid of people that make threads like this, the better this website will become; I say we start here.
I agreed all the way till you said the fans are right. They are also just as opinioniated as the haters. I think they both should be hit by a trolly. If there were a way to, I'd make it a law as I said to only post reviews, seriously, who cares if you like the damn game or don't? If you don't well good for you, if you do well good for you too. At least write a review as to WHY you liked/hated it, rank the gameplay/graphics/issues/support/features/zoning/customization etc...etc... In my previous post I said I hated the game due to full loot and that is true, which is why I won't buy the game, however you don't see me bitching about it in a post, instead I'm going to wait for a game that IS appealing to me. Don't waste your life hating on eachother it's not worth it.
I agree that both sides should be hit, but in this case I feel it more important that it happens to the haters for being exactly what they accuse the fans of being. Honestly, it's time to practice what you preach people, especially Parrotpholk one page back. Looks like the fans aren't the only missing link.
Top 3:
" Go back to WOW "
" Carebear "
" Have you played DF "
Honorable Mention:
" Put your money where your mouth is "
Exactly my point, his whole "counter argument" to me biting into his previous MMO experience is that the ONLY one he listed was UO. I'm sorry, but you need to hang around the MMO-pool just a teeny-bit longer before you make outrageous and un-educated statements about a game.
There are over 20 Free-2-Play korean grinders that are SEVERAL times worse than any main-steam released MMO's that got bad wraps. The worst one so far has been Dark&Light, that ironically, within the past 8 months, tanked it's servers completely.
Comparing F2P with mainstream games is failure. Compare DF to other mainstreams. As for being 26, are you sure? Your profile says otherwise and your posts certainly have not reached high school.
Just passing by to see an exceptional example of roided e-peens.
Where's the mods when you need them? This thread should have been deleted as soon as it was created.
"Good people are good because they've come to wisdom through failure. We get very little wisdom from success, you know." William Saroyan
If you haven't played the game, your opinion is null and void. Again, like I said to the OP, man up and fork out the $50 and formulate your own opinion rather than base your existence on secondary information.
I have plenty of games that I don't play (especially MMOs). I can afford to do my own research because I am a true gamer at heart and the only way to truly know if a game is worth it or not is to PLAY IT.
I can see how some of you can't really afford to buy your own games so you must pick and choose. That's fine. No problem with that. But, please, if you are going to post any shit about a game, do it based on your own play time. If you respond to this and still say Darkfall is shit and you've played it, that's cool. At least you formulated your own opinion and I have much respect for you.
This is total bullshit. The OP has clearly stated he sees DF as the worst thing he ever came across. He does not elaborate, making that a view unsubstantiate, but a view nonetheless and he has all the rights to formulate it. Whether he care to explain to you is his business and whether you agree to it is yours.
But to say he has to pay $50 in order to be able to formulate an opinion is total nonsense. If everyone must pay to comment, every new business will be swarmed with cash, and we all are broke. So what will be your next argument, if he pays $50 and hates it? Does he need to pay $50 and sub till all new expansions are out before he can gave an opinion? How stupid can your argument goes?
Does the doctor need to base his prescriptions on his prior history of illness. So a doctor who never has AIDS cannot talk about AIDS? Do I need to burn myself before telling my kids that burning hurts? This company has all signs of irregularity show thru their skin, why would the OP not be entitled to feel alarmed? I feel alarmed and I am willing to express my alarm b/c Aventurine does not look like a solid reliable and trustworthy producer. Will you buy a car from a manufacturer who announced that their car can fly over water and then deliver you a bicycle that you can look at thru the shopping window but cannot buy, b/c they say they are having troubles filling in your order form?
Call me WoW player, carebear, whatever you wish. Apart from labelling opponents, I see no other valid argument from the supporters, which further deepens my concern that this game; a game requires a "reasonable" community to play out. What are the odd that DF can satisfy my gaming interests, I wonder. But that is history anyway. For me DF is history, for now at least.
I was asking questions relating to technical problems I was encountering in-game. I've played the game off-and on since day 1. I havent been hard core because RL has kept my somewhat busy, but that's irrelevant. Assuming I haven't played the game because I bash it or praise it is just an underhanded way of trying to discount my opinion.
Welcome to the Darkfall Forums on mmorpg.com, where the only way fans can handle any negative opinion of the game is by falling all over themselves trying to dismiss it by bashing the poster at 100 cliche's per minute.
You got the most common ones right out of the gate... You're a "WoW playing" "carebear" who "hasn't played the game"... and "an idiot"... And all on the first page! Pretty good!
So when does it stop being a cliche when it's actually true? The sad reality is more than half of the bashers of most newer MMO's are indeed WoW-Fanbois whom are looking for a new game because they are bored with their "best game ever".
Just because you disagree with the fact that it' said so much to trolls and whiney kids does NOT discredit the fact it is most probably true.
Please consider this the next time you talk about cliches and name calling
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The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
I was asking questions relating to technical problems I was encountering in-game. I've played the game off-and on since day 1. I havent been hard core because RL has kept my somewhat busy, but that's irrelevant. Assuming I haven't played the game because I bash it or praise it is just an underhanded way of trying to discount my opinion.
Welcome to the Darkfall Forums on mmorpg.com, where the only way fans can handle any negative opinion of the game is by falling all over themselves trying to dismiss it by bashing the poster at 100 cliche's per minute.
You got the most common ones right out of the gate... You're a "WoW playing" "carebear" who "hasn't played the game"... and "an idiot"... And all on the first page! Pretty good!
So when does it stop being a cliche when it's actually true? The sad reality is more than half of the bashers of most newer MMO's are indeed WoW-Fanbois whom are looking for a new game because they are bored with their "best game ever".
Just because you disagree with the fact that it' said so much to trolls and whiney kids does NOT discredit the fact it is most probably true.
Please consider this the next time you talk about cliches and name calling
!
Pls elaborate on your argument that more than half of the opponents are WoW players. Prove it. List the names of these people and how many hours each of these "bashers" play WoW. How many percent does that add to? it is over 50%, 50% of what? time? number of persons? Are they still currently WoW players? Most important of all, how do you obtain those statistics? You have no proof and you dare call it a reality. I call you a liar on this 100% liar.
You just throw up another personal accusation to settle a dispute. What a wise way, and how wise you are.
I was asking questions relating to technical problems I was encountering in-game. I've played the game off-and on since day 1. I havent been hard core because RL has kept my somewhat busy, but that's irrelevant. Assuming I haven't played the game because I bash it or praise it is just an underhanded way of trying to discount my opinion.
Welcome to the Darkfall Forums on mmorpg.com, where the only way fans can handle any negative opinion of the game is by falling all over themselves trying to dismiss it by bashing the poster at 100 cliche's per minute.
You got the most common ones right out of the gate... You're a "WoW playing" "carebear" who "hasn't played the game"... and "an idiot"... And all on the first page! Pretty good!
Cliche's aside, look at what the guy titled the thread, and what the body of his OP was. Haters are just as stupid and asinine as supporters (there are a few exceptions, then again the same applies to the other side as well), and to make it worse both sides have a holier-than-thou attitude about it. Good God and good game, now shake hands.
I'm generally neutral in all of this, but the fans are in the right on this one. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the author deserves what he gets for trying to start a gunfight with a knife (a very dull knife at that). Best of luck to him, but I'll be the first to applaud when he gets hit by a trolly.
The sooner we get rid of people that make threads like this, the better this website will become; I say we start here.
Do you think the response would have been much different had he phrased his opinions any other way?
Come on.
These *are* the DF forums and he'd have gotten the same kinds of responses no matter what he said. There's months of posts that bear that out. Criticism and negative opinions about DF or anything to do with it are not tolerated here. Ever.
And anyway, my response was addressing specifically his comment that I colored blue.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
I was asking questions relating to technical problems I was encountering in-game. I've played the game off-and on since day 1. I havent been hard core because RL has kept my somewhat busy, but that's irrelevant. Assuming I haven't played the game because I bash it or praise it is just an underhanded way of trying to discount my opinion.
Welcome to the Darkfall Forums on mmorpg.com, where the only way fans can handle any negative opinion of the game is by falling all over themselves trying to dismiss it by bashing the poster at 100 cliche's per minute.
You got the most common ones right out of the gate... You're a "WoW playing" "carebear" who "hasn't played the game"... and "an idiot"... And all on the first page! Pretty good!
of course this will happen on the first page because the OP made a really stupid and irrational remark that just annoys people and the only reason im here is because im waiting to get through the queue for DARKFALL
And again... he'd have gotten the same kinds of responses no matter what he said, simply because he had negative things to say about a game that some here are freakishly protective of. And frankly, none of the cliche's used even challenge his point of view or ask him to qualify it. They don't ask "why do you think that?" or "what's so bad about it?"
Him saying the game is the worst game of the last ten years, etc... is his personal opinion. It's no more inflammatory than the people saying DF is the best game of the past 10 years, and all the other infomercial-like threads started to praise the game for every little thing they can.
The only difference is.. he "dared" to be critical.
He commented on the *game*. They responded by attacking *him* personally. Which is the typical behavior of many of the fans here. Ergo, Shadowbane 2.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
I was asking questions relating to technical problems I was encountering in-game. I've played the game off-and on since day 1. I havent been hard core because RL has kept my somewhat busy, but that's irrelevant. Assuming I haven't played the game because I bash it or praise it is just an underhanded way of trying to discount my opinion.
Welcome to the Darkfall Forums on mmorpg.com, where the only way fans can handle any negative opinion of the game is by falling all over themselves trying to dismiss it by bashing the poster at 100 cliche's per minute.
You got the most common ones right out of the gate... You're a "WoW playing" "carebear" who "hasn't played the game"... and "an idiot"... And all on the first page! Pretty good!
So when does it stop being a cliche when it's actually true? The sad reality is more than half of the bashers of most newer MMO's are indeed WoW-Fanbois whom are looking for a new game because they are bored with their "best game ever".
Just because you disagree with the fact that it' said so much to trolls and whiney kids does NOT discredit the fact it is most probably true.
Please consider this the next time you talk about cliches and name calling
!
Pls elaborate on your argument that more than half of the opponents are WoW players. Prove it. List the names of these people and how many hours each of these "bashers" play WoW. How many percent does that add to? it is over 50%, 50% of what? time? number of persons? Are they still currently WoW players? Most important of all, how do you obtain those statistics? You have no proof and you dare call it a reality. I call you a liar on this 100% liar.
You just throw up another personal accusation to settle a dispute. What a wise way, and how wise you are.
Look up Fadedbombs post history. Not only does he immediately assume everyone else on this site is a kid who plays WoW, he continually claims that people are comparing Darkfall to WoW when he is the ONLY one actually doing so. Fadedbomb you clearly have some unhealthy obsession with WoW and its subscribers, and its really fucking pathetic.
Its all good, servers will be shut down in a year anyways and a month before they do they will relase it as F2P. Tabula Rasa anyone? Lolz.
Personally, I feel the OP made this thread for no other reason than to piss people off:
Initial Claim: "Absolutely the worst game of the last ten years..the worst MMO of all time!"
Message Following Initial Claim: "There I said it."
Where's the supporting facts? What exactly prompted this accusation? What, exactly, makes this game any worse than the next? Did the OP answer these questions? Nope...
He dared to be critical? How does one be critical without any supporting information? Critical (according to the definition) is a skillful evaluation of the truth. His outrageous claim was nothing more than a blunt statement. A blunt statement, mind you, that was intended to piss people off.
Until the OP can provide more information that supports his claim, he will not be taken seriously.
This thread should have been deleted a long time ago... from what I hear, harassment is not a good thing.
"Good people are good because they've come to wisdom through failure. We get very little wisdom from success, you know." William Saroyan
I think the amount of polish missing from DF, for a game that has been in development for ~8 years, is monumental. It strikes one as a very bad amateur attempt at making a game, rather than an organized effort by professionals.
Whatever the devs of this game have or have not done, one thing I can say for sure, from my perspective, is that they have created a very entertaining game.
There are other games on the market that are more matured and polished without a doubt, but none of the current crop, in my opinion, is as enjoyable to play.
I guess that, to me at least, the actual enjoyment of playing a game trumps everything else.
ymmv, of course.
to each, his own I guess. But to me, DF was a terrible let-down, after following it for 2+ years...
I am still unclear as to why you think so. Can you be a bit more specific, if you don't mind?
I am still unclear as to why you think so. Can you be a bit more specific, if you don't mind?
Because I encountered a game that failed to look 'professional' on every level; graphics were less than anticipated (and I never had high expectations, just what I would see in screenshots).
Gameplay was a shell of a game concept - basically grind mats to have spare sets of equipment in case you get ganked.
Sound - need I say more.
AI - what's so intelligent about it? Where are the migrating mobs, that live their life in the world? All I saw was mobs placed in spawn points, like in eveyr other MMO.
Gathering - really, one node-type everywhere? What happened to risk vs reward design (rarer node types spawning in more dangerous wilderness areas)?
World design - for alpha, quite good. But you can't have empty cities and static NPCs, really.
Combat - Diablo2 style combat. Nothing close to M&B, which was unofficially set as the expected standard.
I am still unclear as to why you think so. Can you be a bit more specific, if you don't mind?
Because I encountered a game that failed to look 'professional' on every level; graphics were less than anticipated (and I never had high expectations, just what I would see in screenshots).
Ok, I disagee, but ok. (I have a very good system, though) and have solved the AA issue by using Nhanse, for my Nvidia card.
Gameplay was a shell of a game concept - basically grind mats to have spare sets of equipment in case you get ganked.
This hasn't been my experience, at all, but ok.
(Though I have been actively helping to build my clan city for the past week, but the work involved seems well worth the effort).
Sound - need I say more.
The individual sounds range from good to not so good, lol. But the way that the sound works within game is actually very good, imo. I like being able to zone in on activity, simply by listening to the direction from which the noise is coming.
AI - what's so intelligent about it? Where are the migrating mobs, that live their life in the world? All I saw was mobs placed in spawn points, like in eveyr other MMO.
There are, in fact, migrating mobs, in game.
There are also mobs that live in ruins, etc. Some of these ruins seem empty, as you pass by. But I have learned to poke around a bit, you never know what you might run into...
I am having fun with mob AI. There are some encounters that seem broken, but the ones that work, which seems to be the majority in my experience, is actually quite fun.
Gathering - really, one node-type everywhere? What happened to risk vs reward design (rarer node types spawning in more dangerous wilderness areas)?
This is kind of true, but I have noticed that the devs are tweaking them, as far as yields are concerned. I suppose their reasoning is that, as it is extremely easy to lose your gear, it probably would be a bit too hard core to make it extremely hard to replace it. Like EVE, in a way.
Besides, there are many mats, required for higher end crafting that are not readily available from nodes around starter cities. Check out the mats required for Plate, for instance.
World design - for alpha, quite good. But you can't have empty cities and static NPCs, really.
I understand why the NPC's are the way they are. More fawna would be nice and fluffy, but in reality, there are so many people running around, the cities are anything but empty...lol
Combat - Diablo2 style combat. Nothing close to M&B, which was unofficially set as the expected standard.
You do realize that the vast majority of all players are running around at basically newb skill level, even the macroers atm. I don't think we can actually judge the full complexity of the combat system at this time. Maybe in a few months we will have a clearer idea.
Anyway, thanks for your views.
worst then Hello Kitty?
Never! Hello Kitty rocks!