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New Star Wars show in the works, latest info.
ArcAngel3
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http://tvguide.sympatico.msn.ca/TVNews/Articles/090312_live_star_wars_MH
Fyi, for those that would be interested 
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Looks interesting thanks
I'm very happy to hear that there would be no Jedi in this show.
But I remeber hearing some time ago that it was based around a bounty hunter. I don't know if I misread that or if something changed but I think it's unfortunate as it would be a much more interesting show IMO.
Thanks for the link Arc.
As long as they don't try to sell you cards I may watch it.
Boy oh boy. A T.V. series based on SW but no where do you find Jedi. That's strange. Mr. Lucas seems to love putting Jedi in everything he makes about SW. Why? Cuz it's not Star Warsy enough without them. I think Mr. Lucas needs to have a talk with his Lucas Arts division. Seems that Jedi are gods over there, and without Jedi anything SW would be epic fail. Of course we Galaxies vets could tell him that Jedi does NOT make SW, the story telling does.
Did we now? I played SWG almost since launch for 4 years straight. Still, with my Pikeman I missed Jedi every damn day. SW IS JEDI. *hand wave* Never understood why people are interesting in something like being Stromtrooper (aka dumb cannonfodder) or Bounty Hunters (aka human scum), let alone watch soldier's war antics. I prefer more elegant, civilized people. Aka Jedi. At any day.
Quite a letdown for me to make a SW tv show without Jedi. Waste'o'time.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Serious questions. What makes you believe Star Wars is all about Jedi? Also, the original trilogy wasn't very "elegant" in the sense that I suspect you're trying to convey. The Star Wars galaxy is a pretty rough and tumble place. I wouldn't call Jedi elegant or all that civilized. To draw a parallel with your sig image; Palpatine was right.
Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity.
Rick McCallum said, in 2006, that a bounty hunter would be a focus of the show. Lucas said, in 2007, that the show would divide its time between focussing on four different characters. However, McCallum said, quote, “I think if we can get [the live action Star Wars TV series] right, it’s something that can go on for years and years. One of the ideas is that we’ll have multiple series going on in about two or three year’s time." So, depending on how it plays out we'll either have 1 show, or 25% of a show, focussing on, most likely, Boba Fett (the chump that he is).
Since it's supposedly going to follow minor characters though, I'm not sure if Boba Fett would be the focus. I think Boba Fett is a minor character, Lucas certainly thought he was when he made the original trilogy. However, Fett has grown way more than he was ever expected to, so is he still a minor character? I guess we'll see.
Either way, TV shows are about ratings. They can't run a Star Wars TV show without ever having a main character pop up and be the focus of, at the very least, a single episode. Boba Fett will likely turn up. A young Han Solo might turn up. A Jedi will almost certainly be shown...hopefully being hunted down and killed as part of the purge. Since it's supposed to be a more character driven, adult show, I think a good old fashioned beating of a Jedi would be a good way for the series to start.
We see the typical, "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..." However, rather than go to the classic Star Wars theme/space crawl, you hear the hum of a lightsaber and see its (green or blue) light reflecting on a wall. A second saber ignites and it casts a red glow on the wall. You hear cracks as the two lightsabers clash, then a scream. The beaten, broken body of a Jedi falls in front of the camera. The green or blue saber shuts off and the red saber continues to cast its glow. The Jedi has a dead stare that pierces the camera, and the audience, signaling that this Star Wars show is a bit more grown up than the Clone Wars cartoon. Signal the Star Wars theme/crawl.
Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity.
Did we now? I played SWG almost since launch for 4 years straight. Still, with my Pikeman I missed Jedi every damn day. SW IS JEDI. *hand wave* Never understood why people are interesting in something like being Stromtrooper Just cuz you dont think its cool doesnt mean its not relative to everyone else. (aka dumb cannonfodder) or Bounty Hunters (aka human scum), let alone watch soldier's war antics. I prefer more elegant, civilized people. Aka Jedi. At any day.
Quite a letdown for me to make a SW tv show without Jedi. Waste'o'time.
Yes we do. In the begining there were no Jedi in the game and people were ok with that for the most part. When Jedi became a staple in the game, there were not 10k Jedi running around, they were rare for a good time. The way it should be. Later it became a mess though. I'm not saying there shouldn't be Jedi, I just think it's strange that he's not putting them in the T.V. series. If you look at the first movie, jedi was not the focus of the movie, it was a heroic story, a fight between good and evil. I stick with my original statement. SW is not about Jedi, It's about story. At least until the prequals, then it was all about the Jedi. If you like Jedi thats cool, but i think you are 100% wrong to say SW IS JEDI.
From the article "There will be Stormtroopers, but no Jedi or Darth Vader will appear on screen.”
Yes. And Star Trek Voyager was set millions of light years from the Federation, which is why it stood all alone with no crossovers from any other Trek show.
This may be the honest intent, but I seriously doubt the fans will accept a SW without the occasional glowbat.
Agreed. The OT, in my opinion, is as much about Han Solo, Leia (not a Jedi in the movies, only the books afterward), Chewbacca, R2, and 3PO as it is about Vader and Luke.
Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity.
I think it will be a good thing not to have any jedi or DV in the live series. GL is staying with the SW canon on this and that's a good thing. Let us remember, the great jedi purge mostly took place in EpIII. Shows depicting the rise of the rebels and treachery of the empire will make for some good entertainment.
Does anyone actually care about Star Wars anymore? Like seriously ever since Episode 6 it has been aload of shit, the only good thing to come outta the IP is Episode 4 and 5. It just seems to get worse and worse as it goes along.
Ever since I met David Prowse (in full costume) at a Shopping Mall at the age of 9, part of me will always enjoy StarWars ^_^. My mom took me lol, mom's cool.
That was followed up by the coolest night at the drive-in theatre I had as a kid, watching the Empire Strikes Back. Second favourite drive-in experience was Jaws lol ^_^. Damn that was scary as a kid. I don't think they were supposed to let me in :P.
Anyways, as far as StarWars Movies go, my favourites are still the original trilogy, especially some of the classic scenes. You know "that's no Moon!" "I'm your father," "Noooooo!" etc. lol. I must admit though, I did enjoy Attack of the Clones. The title always sounded kind of corny to me, but hey I grew up watching Godzilla vs. Megalon, so I have a high tolerance for cornball sci-fi, as long as there's enough butter on the popcorn. Attack of the Clones was kind of a cool story I thought and answered a lot of questions about main characters. I also thought the fighter duel between Obi and Jango was a visual feast. The clone war battle scenes were also pretty cool I thought. Also watching all the Star Destroyers take of at the end to begin the War gave me the same kind of feeling as the opening Star Destroyer seen in the first film. Love that.
Lately, I've enjoyed some of that Cone Wars animated series with my kids. The absolutely love it, and that makes it a hit for me right there. I also enjoy the stories, effects and some of the way the characters are done. They're characaturized to an extent, which I find subtly amusing.
So, I'll check this show out. My kids are very excited about it too ^_^. Thanks for all the fun G.L.!
I dunno the new movies had some of the worst acting I've ever seen and theres no character building cause it moves from scene to scene and it was like they were just trying to pack everything in to those 3 movies to lead upto Episode 4 and it felt rushed. Other things I hated were the scripts because the writing was so poor and had some of the worst lines ever like "Are you an angel?" Or Drth Vader doing that stupid "NOOOOOOOOOOO". How Anakin got turned to the Dark Side also seemed really piss poor like anyone could easily see he was the Sith and what he was trying to do and then all of a sudden he's evil killing kids for no reason and hated his Master who he's been with since a child........ just really unrealistic and dumb like the ending of Episode 6.
The Clone Wars is even worse with it's shitty cheesy cliche script writing and stiff animation. Like Disney has some of the best animation in the business and when you watch something like Bolt and then The Clone Wars, you just wanna stab that fat arse Lucas. I really think the only reason kids love Star Wars is cause it looks kool but when I was a child I woulda thought it was totaly dumb and hated on it. As a child I loved the original Star Wars films and I loved watching 18 rated movies with my friends. We don't need everything to be dumbed down and made stupid because kids arn't stupid, so why treat them like that and make shit like The Clone Wars.
Just a shame General Grievous had to be part of the new movies cause he was badass.
the tv series will revolve around a young mandoralian. and it goes a little something like this:
I wanna be the very best
Like noone ever was
To catch them is my real test
To train them is my cause
I will travel across the land
Searching far and wide
Each soe tcg
to understand
The power that's inside
Chorus
tcg!
It's you and me
I know it's my destiny
tcg!
Ooh, you're my best friend
In a world we must defend
tcg!
Our hearts so true
Our courage will pull us through
You teach me and I'll teach you
tcg!
Gotta catch 'em all!
Every challenge along the way
With courage I will face
I will battle every day
To purchase my rightful place
Come with me, the time is right
There's no better team
Arm in arm we'll win the fight
It's always been our dream
From the article "There will be Stormtroopers, but no Jedi or Darth Vader will appear on screen.”
Yes. And Star Trek Voyager was set millions of light years from the Federation, which is why it stood all alone with no crossovers from any other Trek show.
This may be the honest intent, but I seriously doubt the fans will accept a SW without the occasional glowbat.
Apparently you never saw the multiple episodes with Commander Riker, Q, and a few others, then.
And SERIOUS Star Wars fans will revel in a Jedi-free Star Wars environment if it is during the time they were hunted to near extinction.
Star Wars was never about the glowbats, not really. The original Star Wars trilogy was about the classic fantasy of the Knight ( Skywalker ) rescuing the Princess ( Leia ) from the evil Wizards ( Vader and Palpatine ). It was good vs. evil, right vs.wrong, the people against a repressive regime ( there is a reason why the Empire uniforms look like Nazi uniforms and, of course, "stormtroopers" ).
In the "expanded story" ( Episodes I-VI ) it became the story of Anakin Skywalker ( Vader ). The story of a good man lead to evil, and his redemption at the hands of his son.
It was no more about the glowbats than Camelot, King Arthur, and the Knights of the Round Table was about Excalibur.
They were weapons, with their own mythos perhaps. But at the end of the day, they were just weapons. They were not the "soul" of the story.
If it takes place between Ep III and IV, then there shouldn't be many appearances of Jedi. Characters that you never see faces of like Vader or Boba Fett should make appearances occasionally.
I'm someone that leans toward Star Wars = Jedi, but I'd certainly watch a Jedi-free TV series as long as the story and dialog are compelling.
I don't really mind if it has some jedi elements, as long as those jedi elements are not the central ones. They can even be pyvotal in driving the story, but overall I'm much more interested in seeing, let's say smugler joe or Bounty Hunter McEvil than extra jedi number 32.
Hell they can even make it about han solo (wouldnt be the best option but would still be digestable) but cut on the jedi since we all already know how the jedi and the sith see the events.
Only exception I would grant would be if it was centered on Vader between the moment he becomes vader and EP4. there is like 20 years of stories to be told (ok, we have some books about it, and some "tips" abount certain events but in general Palpatine wouldn't need vader to have him sited down 20 years on a ship waiting for leia to get the deathstar plans)... Doubt anyone will ever make a film or show out of it in the next years, since it would have to be much darker than what what has been made around SW(except maybe ESB)
From the article "There will be Stormtroopers, but no Jedi or Darth Vader will appear on screen.”
Yes. And Star Trek Voyager was set millions of light years from the Federation, which is why it stood all alone with no crossovers from any other Trek show.
This may be the honest intent, but I seriously doubt the fans will accept a SW without the occasional glowbat.
Apparently you never saw the multiple episodes with Commander Riker, Q, and a few others, then.
And SERIOUS Star Wars fans will revel in a Jedi-free Star Wars environment if it is during the time they were hunted to near extinction.
Star Wars was never about the glowbats, not really. The original Star Wars trilogy was about the classic fantasy of the Knight ( Skywalker ) rescuing the Princess ( Leia ) from the evil Wizards ( Vader and Palpatine ). It was good vs. evil, right vs.wrong, the people against a repressive regime ( there is a reason why the Empire uniforms look like Nazi uniforms and, of course, "stormtroopers" ).
In the "expanded story" ( Episodes I-VI ) it became the story of Anakin Skywalker ( Vader ). The story of a good man lead to evil, and his redemption at the hands of his son.
It was no more about the glowbats than Camelot, King Arthur, and the Knights of the Round Table was about Excalibur.
They were weapons, with their own mythos perhaps. But at the end of the day, they were just weapons. They were not the "soul" of the story.
Q was very funny in DS9 lol
From the article "There will be Stormtroopers, but no Jedi or Darth Vader will appear on screen.
Yes. And Star Trek Voyager was set millions of light years from the Federation, which is why it stood all alone with no crossovers from any other Trek show.
This may be the honest intent, but I seriously doubt the fans will accept a SW without the occasional glowbat.
Apparently you never saw the multiple episodes with Commander Riker, Q, and a few others, then.
And SERIOUS Star Wars fans will revel in a Jedi-free Star Wars environment if it is during the time they were hunted to near extinction.
Star Wars was never about the glowbats, not really. The original Star Wars trilogy was about the classic fantasy of the Knight ( Skywalker ) rescuing the Princess ( Leia ) from the evil Wizards ( Vader and Palpatine ). It was good vs. evil, right vs.wrong, the people against a repressive regime ( there is a reason why the Empire uniforms look like Nazi uniforms and, of course, "stormtroopers" ).
In the "expanded story" ( Episodes I-VI ) it became the story of Anakin Skywalker ( Vader ). The story of a good man lead to evil, and his redemption at the hands of his son.
It was no more about the glowbats than Camelot, King Arthur, and the Knights of the Round Table was about Excalibur.
They were weapons, with their own mythos perhaps. But at the end of the day, they were just weapons. They were not the "soul" of the story.
by "glowbat" he didn't mean just lightsabers. He meant what lightsabers represent, i.e. jedi and the force.
I can see there being no jedi around but will find it hard to fathom a star wars storyline that doesn't include the force. Without the force it mind as well be an action based seinfeld period piece with less comedy.
There's so much possible storylines you can do in Star Wars. They all don't require The Schwarz to be Star Wars, either.
The bulk of the fighting, the majority of guys that "Got the job done" during the Clone Wars and the Galactic Civil War weren't done by Jedi / Sith / Force users.
Those saying you can't have Star Wars without Jedi and the Force have limited themselves quite a bit.
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
The force (jedi or sith) has to be present . Even if as a second liner. I do agree that the bulk of fighting (and even apparently executing order 66) was done by non force sensitive individuals. Yet the force is the "reason d'etre" of the war and most of the events. It does need to be present, but doesn't need the spot light.
the concept of centering a possible show in a bounty hunter can be pretty solid storywise. It adds an angle of neutrality that , for me, in terms of the narrative is very interesting to explore, if they get writers of the caliber of , for exemple, J. Michael Straczynski.
From the article "There will be Stormtroopers, but no Jedi or Darth Vader will appear on screen.”
Yes. And Star Trek Voyager was set millions of light years from the Federation, which is why it stood all alone with no crossovers from any other Trek show.
This may be the honest intent, but I seriously doubt the fans will accept a SW without the occasional glowbat.
Apparently you never saw the multiple episodes with Commander Riker, Q, and a few others, then.
And SERIOUS Star Wars fans will revel in a Jedi-free Star Wars environment if it is during the time they were hunted to near extinction.
Star Wars was never about the glowbats, not really. The original Star Wars trilogy was about the classic fantasy of the Knight ( Skywalker ) rescuing the Princess ( Leia ) from the evil Wizards ( Vader and Palpatine ). It was good vs. evil, right vs.wrong, the people against a repressive regime ( there is a reason why the Empire uniforms look like Nazi uniforms and, of course, "stormtroopers" ).
In the "expanded story" ( Episodes I-VI ) it became the story of Anakin Skywalker ( Vader ). The story of a good man lead to evil, and his redemption at the hands of his son.
It was no more about the glowbats than Camelot, King Arthur, and the Knights of the Round Table was about Excalibur.
They were weapons, with their own mythos perhaps. But at the end of the day, they were just weapons. They were not the "soul" of the story.
by "glowbat" he didn't mean just lightsabers. He meant what lightsabers represent, i.e. jedi and the force.
I can see there being no jedi around but will find it hard to fathom a star wars storyline that doesn't include the force. Without the force it mind as well be an action based seinfeld period piece with less comedy.
Yes, but the difference between a "force sensitive" compared to a full out Jedi is like a Yugo to a battleship. They're worlds apart as far as abilities go. Hell, even Solo was force sensitive, hence his "luck". But Solo, as seen in themovies, was still just an ordinary guy.
And dammit, Solo shot FIRST!!!!
The Force / Schwartz / Jedi / Sith do NOT need to be present to have a Star Wars story. Some are more likely to see them, i.e. Pre-Galactic Empire, some not, i.e. Imperial era. Some arcs that could be completely centered on things other than the Force:
* Clone Wars: Follow the exploits of a Republic Commando team through certain points in the Clone Wars.
* Clone Wars: Follow a double agent during the conflict, feeding information to both the CIS and the Republic, all while profiting from the war. "Information is power," they say, and this double agent seeks to wield as much power he can and make a great living off it. But he warily looks over his shoulders just in case the 2 warring factions catch on.
* Clone Wars: Follow the story of an Outer Rim planet that withdrew from the Republic at the onset of the Clone Wars. In the days of the Republic, it had long been neglected by the Senate and Chancellors. Hit hard by numerous problems and increased / criminal / pirate activity (with the Republic Navy held in disuse and political inaction), the populace had grown resentful towards the Republic. But the CIS held promise against the lethargic and forgetful Republic. The people wholeheartedly threw their support towards the Seperatist cause. Numerous groups volunteer to fill help fill the ranks of the CIS military. We follow their story from the positive idealism from the beginning of the Clone Wars, to the realization as to how much the war costs them (against the Republic and the increased demands of the CIS in production and manpower), and in the closing months of the war, just how badly it may end up for them. Especially with the news spreading like wildfire about the Republic being transformed into something new...
* Clone Wars / Imperial era: We follow the life of a Clonetrooper who had first seen action in the last year of the Clone Wars as a member of the elite 501st Legion. Coming into service in the last year, he sees more than enough action as a member of this very busy Legion. We do get a chance to see him fight under the direction of General Skywalker when the hammer falls in Order 66. We see his first hand experience as the Grand Army of the Republic is transformed into the Imperial Stormtroopers, and the vast changes that entails. We see from his eyes as a Stormtrooper striving to ensure peace and order is maintained in the Galactic Empire. We see from his eyes the surprising rise of the Rebellion and the Empire's furious attempts at crushing it. We see from his eyes and experiences as member of the prestigious 501st the numerous combat and policing actions required of its Troopers. We can take his experiences all the way to Hoth (the high point in ESB?) and surviving the debacle at Endor, witnessing the unravelling and splintering of the Empire he long and proudly served.
* Imperial era: Follow the history of a Rebel starfighter group. This squadron is among the first formed in the fledgling "Alliance to Restore the Republic." Stuck with Z-95 fighters and the sturdy Y-Wing bombers, we can see the actions of this group throughout the Galactic Civil War. We can see them trade away their old Z-95's for the new X-Wings. We can see them take on the hordes of TIEs and the powerful warships of the Imperial Navy. Always on the move, wary of being stationary for too long in a base, for the Empire could barge in anytime. And always striking when Imperial forces are least prepared.
* Imperial era: We follow the experience of a captain and his crew in the Imperial Navy... starting at the Battle of Endor (let's start with a bang). In what should have been a lopsided and Rebellion crushing victory for the Empire, the battle completely turns around into the worst possible outcome for the Imperials. The heads of the Empire... BOTH the Emperor and Lord Vader!... are now dead. The Executor is lost, and with it Adm.Piett. The loss of another Death Star with the untold loss of personnel and equipment aboard is even harder to fathom. The chain of command is shattered at Endor for the Empire. The battle fleet splinters and is being steadily overwhelmed by a vengeful Rebel Navy. We follow our officer as he organizes what few forces he can nearby into an organized withdrawal away from the disaster. They escape a relentless Rebel pursuit, but the Captain finds himself now as the senior most officer in this ad-hoc formation. Communications with Fleet Headquarters at Coruscant is sporadic and confusing. They too are wondering just what happened, but place him officially in command as Commodore for this "Task Force." We see his story unfold into this chaotic era for the Empire completely shrouded in doubt, immediately after Endor. We see him witness the splintering of the once omnipotent Empire into petty little kingdoms by numerous "warlords" who were once leaders of the Empire. All while the Rebellion, high off it's tremendous victory at Endor, are seeking to push their advantage. And what few truly loyal Imperial forces there are find themselves in between them and these "Imperial Warlords."
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
In a post Imperial period, yes I agree, you can "eradicate" the presence of the force from the story. But in a story arc that, from what we gather, evolves between EP3 and EP4, it is somewhat harder.
let me draw a comparison: trying to set a historical novel in Europe between the 9th and the 18th century without making references to religion is extremely hard. Same happens with Star wars and the force element in this particular period, unless we restrict ourselves to small stories (tales). In some sort of long narrative - and that appears to be the plan- most times you'll have to have the force presence, since it is the meta narrative.
what is happening? Palpatine is consolidating his political power, Vader is Palpatine's paladin. Moff's like Tarkin or agents like Isaard are raising as front figures but ONLY because it is beneficial for Palpatine. Senator Orgaana is raising vader's child and hopping both Vader and Palpatine don't put a foot in alderaan. Owen and beru probably don't have that awareness but Ben does. Yoda is hiding.there is probably a couple of dozens jedi scattered amidst the galaxy with bounty hunters and clones troopers searching for them. In some cases Vader also.
Every major event in that period is in one way or the other, connected with the force and those that siege it. One can get distance from it yes... let's say bounty hunter Kev'lar gets a mission to kill Amazing Avery, a dealer selling too much "age of conan"spice that is working for Jabba the Hutt, and has to infiltrate jabba's palace etc.
But in the long term narrative, the force is, for this period, axial. The difference to the movies is that you don't need to have Palpatine shooting bolts from his hands or Vader using a lightsaber. In fact they don't even need to show up - tho I bet we will end up seeing Vader in some way , as the premise of audiences is too appellative and any actor can be used beneath the mask, and probably Palpatine also ( with a hood/cloak shadowing his face); since we all know they are pulling the strings.
Having said that, I do hope and wish that most of the "content" will not be centered in jedi or sith, or have people using lightsabers left and right.