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AoC Directx10....
massicks
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I recently tried to change the graphics options in AoC to directx10 however the option was greyed out....?
I am running windows vista anf my graphics card is GeForce 8800 GTS. I ran dxdiag to check my directx version and it is definitely 10.
Am I missing a trick somewhere when playing around with the graphics settings or is my graphics card not up to the job?
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unless i missed something, AoC does NOT support dx10 yet.
Neither. DX10 is not implemented into the live game at this time.
Waiting for: A skill-based MMO with Freedom and Consequence.
Woe to thee, the pierce-ed.
When you go into the graphics options there is a combo box for directx10 - maybe its just not activated yet...?
If thats the case does anyone know when the game will go live with dx10?
Nope, but people in the Test servers can likely give you more info.
I have played on Testlive, and honestly, I am not happy with DX10. It does some weird stuff that makes the game run womky and controls are weird.
I hope they take their time and get it right before releasing to Live
I must be lucky then. Was expecting huge drops in terms of framerates, but it wasn't like that at all. At *most* I lost 10 frames with all DX10 options enabled.
With DX10, the game looks stunningly beautiful imo. Can't wait till it hits live (in a decent shape of course).
Though the lightning can be a bit extreme sometimes.
It is preferable not to travel with a dead man.
I must be lucky then. Was expecting huge drops in terms of framerates, but it wasn't like that at all. At *most* I lost 10 frames with all DX10 options enabled.
With DX10, the game looks stunningly beautiful imo. Can't wait till it hits live (in a decent shape of course).
Though the lightning can be a bit extreme sometimes.
You probably just played the latest version that got loaded to Testlive today. Much better according to players AND they implemented that 3D grass that sway when you and/or mobs run through it. People were very impressed and I saw also some comments in there that DX10 now start to get more or less ready for Live....Would love that.
I must be lucky then. Was expecting huge drops in terms of framerates, but it wasn't like that at all. At *most* I lost 10 frames with all DX10 options enabled.
With DX10, the game looks stunningly beautiful imo. Can't wait till it hits live (in a decent shape of course).
Though the lightning can be a bit extreme sometimes.
You probably just played the latest version that got loaded to Testlive today. Much better according to players AND they implemented that 3D grass that sway when you and/or mobs run through it. People were very impressed and I saw also some comments in there that DX10 now start to get more or less ready for Live....Would love that.
Yes!
* Dx10Test now features high quality grass meshes and physics, and billboard type grass.
Freakin awesome. Personally I have the God Ray intensity at 25% but it is good that it scales well.
liking the new setting.
OMG the grass hahah. I dunno what they but it rocks on maxed out settings.
Vid please!
I must be lucky then. Was expecting huge drops in terms of framerates, but it wasn't like that at all. At *most* I lost 10 frames with all DX10 options enabled.
With DX10, the game looks stunningly beautiful imo. Can't wait till it hits live (in a decent shape of course).
Though the lightning can be a bit extreme sometimes.
It has nothing to do with framerates actually (wish it did). I have two "known" issues. The first is a problem with resolutions not being selectable (I do not have access to all widescreen modes except the highest of 1080p, and this is unplayable). The second is a nasty bug that as soon as you use the right mouse button to turn or look, you instantly look at the sky, and cannot look ahead again.
Basically DX10 is 100% unplayable due to these.
There is no explaination at this time why this happens, but the Devs have stepped in and noted this as a known problem.
My issue is it has been known for a month so far. And no patch yet to fix it.
Disappointed is all.
Last time I played on testlive it cut my FPS in half. They pulled it off about the time I let my sub expire and had serious doubts about Avery's claim that the new version was "perfect". Anyway I doubt anyone really quit AoC over graphics or animation problems anyway. DX10 is cool, but pretty graphics will not retain people if they don't care for the game play.
I miss DAoC
Someone help me out here with a link. The last video Funcom put out about things to come in AoC has the grass effect being shown in it. I can't seem to find it. I think it was a video Avery posted.
Sorry I couldn't help you more.
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Someone help me out here with a link. The last video Funcom put out about things to come in AoC has the grass effect being shown in it. I can't seem to find it. I think it was a video Avery posted.
Sorry I couldn't help you more.
About 3 mins 40 onwards: www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/191/view/videos/play/1296/Hyborian-Insider-New-Content-DX-10-and-More.html
The way those flowers move with physics is that what was just put in along with High Res grass. I'll get a screen shot comparison soon.
Openedge, I don't have the issue with the mouse / camera view anymore, I did and it was annoying but on test not there /shrug?
As for resolutions I can see all in the drop down, unles do you mean 16:9 ones from which the new monitors have been shipping with of late?
Here is some from earlier today in particular the HQ grass has a big effect. Also been taking footage for the Flora Physics, it is just like in the video above post.
More 3D grass:
Old grass: http://bildr.no/view/365947
New grass: http://bildr.no/view/365949
Old grass: http://bildr.no/view/365950
New grass: http://bildr.no/view/365951
Oh look at the pretty flowers....
WIll Funcom be able to release a dx 10 version of AOC before DX11 or something even better will be coming in other games ?
Or maybe ppl should ask... Will AOC have DX10 before the OTHER MMO that Funcom is creating for the SAME graphic engine ?
I wonder.....
What we can be sure of is that there is now almost a year since a boxed version of a game was released saying it had "special" DX10 enhancment... And what we know for sure is that company lied to every single custimor of that game. And that same company is using the EXACT same methods to this day to manipulate and con gamers.
Nothing has change. AOC still has not got DX10 out. And the DX10 in screenshots look good - as long as u dont add the FPS to it...
Please keep convincing yourself nothing has changed just so you don't have to do a U-turn. Why does the release date bother you for DX10? Lets re-evaluate. You don't play, you hate the game, hate the company it has no bearance on you yourself whatsoever does it. Yet you feel the need to badger on about it because...... Your so upset it was not in the game 9 month ago? Really?
It is full on 3D flora, moves when you move through it, physical effect.
The difference is many people are running around on the test server using DX10. Those same people can see the work that has gone in since it went up on there.
You know all other DX10 games that are out there have an FPS difference between that client and a DX9 one. Please don't use that as an argument against it, as it is completely wrong. It seems the DX10 has really got you miffed and upset.
You should try it out, it does add to the game. I'd be less concerned about something that doesn't effect you and worried about the things in the game you do play.
Please keep convincing yourself nothing has changed just so you don't have to do a U-turn. Why does the release date bother you for DX10? Lets re-evaluate. You don't play, you hate the game, hate the company it has no bearance on you yourself whatsoever does it. Yet you feel the need to badger on about it because...... Your so upset it was not in the game 9 month ago? Really?
It is full on 3D flora, moves when you move through it, physical effect.
The difference is many people are running around on the test server using DX10. Those same people can see the work that has gone in since it went up on there.
You know all other DX10 games that are out there have an FPS difference between that client and a DX9 one. Please don't use that as an argument against it, as it is completely wrong. It seems the DX10 has really got you miffed and upset.
You should try it out, it does add to the game. I'd be less concerned about something that doesn't effect you and worried about the things in the game you do play.
While I am neither bothered about how the game looks or ever will look in the future, but how it played is the reason I stopped playing it and due to the amount of BS which was dished out to people and the lack of a finished product which is preventing me from bothering to ever play another Funcom product full stop.
So whether it comes out in DX10 or DX20 means very little to me as they will not receive my blessing due to the untruths told, prehaps had they been honest to their player base they would have far more players than they currently have and people may of hung in there a lot longer and supported them. No one is denying they could of had a great game and may still have a great game in the future but the collatral damage done from day one is what has preventing many possible customers ever trusting them again.
Kudos to the many who have hung in there through thick and thin, but alsa that will not save this game imo and with the future of many games in the balance within this credit cruch climate it is possible that many games will die and this could fall victim unless they can turn things round quickly and personally providing DX10 is not going to add to the game apart from visually and that is not enough to influence people to return imo. To make this game have any huge impact they will have to pull a rabbit out of the bag to allow this game to grow and mature in the long term and with many new games being developed this could have a tremendous negitive effect on it's future.
I will find it difficult to ever invest my hard earnt cash into another Funcom product after beta testing this and AO which also suffered from a really bad start, though AO did manage to recover and turn out to be a fun game which has stood the test of time all be it rather long in the tooth nowdays. While I would be mad to say never because we all know what happens when you say never...hehe sorry went on a bit of a rant there but player ability will always be ahead of graphics whether DX8 or DX20 sorry.
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So...how much will my FPS drop on DX10...I currently have high settings default with a few things raised..anti-alias 16x,,ultra shadows and I get about (without intermittent spikes) 22-60 fps...depending on location and player presence. Usually around 30-50 most times. equip: x58 gigabyte MB with intel i7 2.6ghx...4 gig ddr3 ram ...Evga geforce nvidia 9800gt 256mb(might be 512..can't recall and not near PC)
Can you really tell the difference after 4xAA? I can't tell the difference, but my eyes are not all that great. Shadows I can't tell the difference either from high to low. I usually just have my system at 4xAA and shadows low. I have a 3870 x2 and it will go to the settings you have I just can't tell the difference really.
I can play LOTRO DX10 just fine with little to no lag. I probably need to tweak it a little more.
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Openedge, I don't have the issue with the mouse / camera view anymore, I did and it was annoying but on test not there /shrug?
Awesome for you. It still exists for me, so, if I knew what was done to fix that it would be great. The fact is, it exists, and the Devs answer to me was "It is a known issue".
As for resolutions I can see all in the drop down, unles do you mean 16:9 ones from which the new monitors have been shipping with of late?
Yes, the resolutions exist. They just do not work...period. Anything below 1080p is not working. But, these issues do not exist in DX9 client for TL.
I understand you see these things and they work for you...it does NOT mean that it is working for everyone That is the fact, and no telling how long this has existed. All I know is it is frustrating, and no Dev is willing to discuss the issue. THAT is my major concern.
To me DX10 is FAR from ready, and they should have known this when they shipped the game.
Can you really tell the difference after 4xAA? I can't tell the difference, but my eyes are not all that great. Shadows I can't tell the difference either from high to low. I usually just have my system at 4xAA and shadows low. I have a 3870 x2 and it will go to the settings you have I just can't tell the difference really.
I can play LOTRO DX10 just fine with little to no lag. I probably need to tweak it a little more.
I'm sure I can't tell the difference for a many of the settings.I just don't know what the effect is to FPS per setting ...so I lazily max most of them..lol. Someone posted comparisons of AoC DX9 and DX10 from the test servers...and you can definitely tell the difference. Many might consider them subtle ...but a lot can be said for the subtle things,,,like reactive grass and brush..and even more realism in water ..lighting and shadows. I too have Lotro on mostly max settings..and experience very little lag ..except occasionally in highly populated areas..towns and such . As you know..lotro looks absolutely beautiful on Dx9...and moreso with dx10.
Openedge, I don't have the issue with the mouse / camera view anymore, I did and it was annoying but on test not there /shrug?
Awesome for you. It still exists for me, so, if I knew what was done to fix that it would be great. The fact is, it exists, and the Devs answer to me was "It is a known issue".
As for resolutions I can see all in the drop down, unles do you mean 16:9 ones from which the new monitors have been shipping with of late?
Yes, the resolutions exist. They just do not work...period. Anything below 1080p is not working. But, these issues do not exist in DX9 client for TL.
I understand you see these things and they work for you...it does NOT mean that it is working for everyone That is the fact, and no telling how long this has existed. All I know is it is frustrating, and no Dev is willing to discuss the issue. THAT is my major concern.
To me DX10 is FAR from ready, and they should have known this when they shipped the game.
Sorry to hear the issues with the camera / mouse still there for you. I understand that people are experiencing different things. I'll see if I can find any info about the Res and maybe we can bring in to light more. I put myself in your shoes and can relate to the frustration.
I have been running around on test @ 1680 x 1050 ok so far today.
DX10 still has it's issues I collated about 9 of them found today too. No it is not ready but performance wise I have noticed it is better over the past 2 months. It seems to be that they are having issues with Screen Space Ambient Occlusion Lighting for many, including myself. I also have great performance for a while and then a 10 second lock up, so there is something up with the settings I am on but still trying to figure out which. I have figured out that each AA setting from none to 16Q setting per option gives a 2 FPS hit.
I am excited for it's release though when that happens. I think that they are taking a few issues at a time such as the ATI card one. I mean the High Quality 3D grass options came as a secret plesant surprise! Maybe now that, that particular work is out of the way they can fix more issues. It seems to be the plan, implement a setting, fix an older one and so on.