Originally posted by miagisan Originally posted by Peccavi
Originally posted by neonwire
Originally posted by Crelm
From the Black Prophecy Site FAQ: 3. Will it be possible to exit your ship and walk around on space stations or planets? This feature will not be part of the release version but is not necessarily ruled out for any further expansions of Black Prophecy.
And this is why I will initially ignore this MMO. Will I engage my enemies in combat? No. My ship will engage enemies in combat. Blah. Will I get to board enemy ships and try to capture them? No. Either the enemy ship is outright destroyed, or it is merely *assumed* I boarded it and the step is skipped. BS. Will there be planetside PvP? No. Those big balls of rock are just decoration. No thanks. A ship is not an avatar. It's an impersonal pile of pixels with weapons systems.
Its a game about flying around in spaceships. Of course you cant get out of your ship or run around inside it. No you cant watch your silly little humanoid avatar use the toilet or have a drink in the canteen. Its a space game. Big balls of rock just decoration? What are all those trees, mountains, hills and rivers etc in other mmos then? Its ALL decoration. A ship is not an avatar? Of course it bloody well is. An impersonal pile of pixels? You dont think your little dwarf in WoW is actually alive do you? Oh look at him laugh when I type the /laugh emote! Oh now I can make him dance and clap his hands! Oh what fun! Oh he has such personality! Oh now I feel immersed in the game because he seems soooooo life like. I'm glad the ship is the avatar in this game. Then I wont have to watch retards jumping up and down on the heads of npcs, setting off dance emotes like its the funniest thing they've ever done and generally acting like complete and utter twats. It doesnt matter if the avatar is a spaceship, a dwarf, a dragon or a cybernetic vacuum cleaner gone rogue. If it fits with what the game is trying to be then its fine. Its just a 3d model made in Maya or 3D Studio Max. This is a game about people flying spaceships around in outerspace so your avatar is a spaceship just like it is in any other FPS space shooter. If you can only play mmos where you dress up your little man in outfits and equip him him with swords and laser guns in a failed attempt at fooling yourself into thinking you are unique then there are plenty of them around for ya. Go and play one of them instead and stop moaning about a game simply because it doesnt fit into your limited short-sighted view of what a game should be.
as i quickly stated below this is EVE re dux, they arent bringing anything new to the mmo world with this game. its ships and space whoopdy do, EVE did that, and with there minimal impact on the massive MMO player base, you would think a new MMO would have actual avatars that walk around and do something other than being a thing in a gooey pod floating in your ship. that type of immersion in my opinion would absolutely dominate the market. I for 1 and so freaking tired of fantasy based MMOs, I tried TR and it was so blah. I say black prophecy needs to add humanoids, or aliens or whatever or get the hell out of the playground we dont want it. If EVE added humanoids I would actually play it, but other than that its frickin boring to fly around shoot stuff and harvest asteroids.
Fall 2009 = Eve introduces Ambulation
then they will most likely earn my subscription at that point at least until Star Wars: The Old republic comes out.
yeah i am becoming really torn also....i am a Star Wars freak....love it.....especially the original trilogy movies and the thrawn books....but eve....CCP knows what they are doing, and every single update this game becomes better and better...i am beginning to think that TOR and EVE are going to be going head to head competing for my game time.
3. Will it be possible to exit your ship and walk around on space stations or planets?
This feature will not be part of the release version but is not necessarily ruled out for any further expansions of Black Prophecy.
And this is why I will initially ignore this MMO.
Will I engage my enemies in combat? No. My ship will engage enemies in combat. Blah.
Will I get to board enemy ships and try to capture them? No. Either the enemy ship is outright destroyed, or it is merely *assumed* I boarded it and the step is skipped. BS.
Will there be planetside PvP? No. Those big balls of rock are just decoration.
No thanks. A ship is not an avatar. It's an impersonal pile of pixels with weapons systems.
Its a game about flying around in spaceships. Of course you cant get out of your ship or run around inside it. No you cant watch your silly little humanoid avatar use the toilet or have a drink in the canteen. Its a space game.
Big balls of rock just decoration? What are all those trees, mountains, hills and rivers etc in other mmos then? Its ALL decoration.
A ship is not an avatar? Of course it bloody well is. An impersonal pile of pixels? You dont think your little dwarf in WoW is actually alive do you? Oh look at him laugh when I type the /laugh emote! Oh now I can make him dance and clap his hands! Oh what fun! Oh he has such personality! Oh now I feel immersed in the game because he seems soooooo life like.
I'm glad the ship is the avatar in this game. Then I wont have to watch retards jumping up and down on the heads of npcs, setting off dance emotes like its the funniest thing they've ever done and generally acting like complete and utter twats.
It doesnt matter if the avatar is a spaceship, a dwarf, a dragon or a cybernetic vacuum cleaner gone rogue. If it fits with what the game is trying to be then its fine. Its just a 3d model made in Maya or 3D Studio Max. This is a game about people flying spaceships around in outerspace so your avatar is a spaceship just like it is in any other FPS space shooter. If you can only play mmos where you dress up your little man in outfits and equip him him with swords and laser guns in a failed attempt at fooling yourself into thinking you are unique then there are plenty of them around for ya. Go and play one of them instead and stop moaning about a game simply because it doesnt fit into your limited short-sighted view of what a game should be.
as i quickly stated below this is EVE re dux, they arent bringing anything new to the mmo world with this game. its ships and space whoopdy do, EVE did that, and with there minimal impact on the massive MMO player base, you would think a new MMO would have actual avatars that walk around and do something other than being a thing in a gooey pod floating in your ship. that type of immersion in my opinion would absolutely dominate the market. I for 1 and so freaking tired of fantasy based MMOs, I tried TR and it was so blah. I say black prophecy needs to add humanoids, or aliens or whatever or get the hell out of the playground we dont want it. If EVE added humanoids I would actually play it, but other than that its frickin boring to fly around shoot stuff and harvest asteroids.
No its not EVE re dux. Just because its a game set in space in which you control a ship doesnt mean its automatically a copy of EVE. Thats like saying every mmo in which you control a humanoid avatar is a copy of WoW.
You say that BP isnt bringing anything new to the genre and in the same breath you say that they should copy all of the other mmos by allowing people to have humanoid avatars exactly like virtually every other mmo. Make your mind up. You say that a new mmo should have humanoid avatars because all of the other mmos which have humaoid avatars dominate the market.....ummm......well thats a reason to NOT do that then isnt it? Why make yet another mmo where you get to walk around with your little man when there are already so many of them. You're not making any sense at all. Yeah BP should just make their game like all the rest to appeal to the masses......not.
You say you are so freaking tired of fantasy mmos and yet this is not a fantasy mmo. Its a game about having battles with space ships. There are other sci-fi mmos where you control a humanoid avatar. Maybe you should look at them instead of complaining about how this game is not designed with your specific requirements in mind. How dare they try and fill a gap in the market. The evil swine!
"I say black prophecy needs to add humanoids, or aliens or whatever or get the hell out of the playground we dont want it."
No YOU dont want it. Dont try and drag everyone else into your own narrow minded opinion. EVE is a great game and it stands out from the pile of crap that passes for most other mmos. Its also the only one of its kind which has done well so its great that BP is giving another option to people who like the idea of controlling a space ship in an mmo. If you dont like games where you control space ships then it would be in your best interests to stop posting in this forum then because this game isnt for you. Its not going to cater to people who want the bog standard humanoid avatars that we see in every other mmo so there isnt any point in moaning about the lack of humanoid avatars as it aint gonna happen. Would you go into the WoW forums and complain that it should let you fly a space ship? In BP your ship is your avatar because its a game about flying around in space in a space ship. Like it or lump it.
EVE is adding humanoid avatars for when you wander around spaceships just to satisfy whiners like yourself. The silly thing is that its completely unnessary as that is not what the game is about. It will draw in people who dont like flying a space ship and then after a short while those people will start moaning because they cant shoot people in the space stations, kills mobs, farm loot and go up levels. Then they will cry even more when the real EVE players tell them all to fuck off.
Originally posted by neonwire Originally posted by Peccavi
Originally posted by neonwire
Originally posted by Crelm
From the Black Prophecy Site FAQ: 3. Will it be possible to exit your ship and walk around on space stations or planets? This feature will not be part of the release version but is not necessarily ruled out for any further expansions of Black Prophecy.
And this is why I will initially ignore this MMO. Will I engage my enemies in combat? No. My ship will engage enemies in combat. Blah. Will I get to board enemy ships and try to capture them? No. Either the enemy ship is outright destroyed, or it is merely *assumed* I boarded it and the step is skipped. BS. Will there be planetside PvP? No. Those big balls of rock are just decoration. No thanks. A ship is not an avatar. It's an impersonal pile of pixels with weapons systems.
Its a game about flying around in spaceships. Of course you cant get out of your ship or run around inside it. No you cant watch your silly little humanoid avatar use the toilet or have a drink in the canteen. Its a space game. Big balls of rock just decoration? What are all those trees, mountains, hills and rivers etc in other mmos then? Its ALL decoration. A ship is not an avatar? Of course it bloody well is. An impersonal pile of pixels? You dont think your little dwarf in WoW is actually alive do you? Oh look at him laugh when I type the /laugh emote! Oh now I can make him dance and clap his hands! Oh what fun! Oh he has such personality! Oh now I feel immersed in the game because he seems soooooo life like. I'm glad the ship is the avatar in this game. Then I wont have to watch retards jumping up and down on the heads of npcs, setting off dance emotes like its the funniest thing they've ever done and generally acting like complete and utter twats. It doesnt matter if the avatar is a spaceship, a dwarf, a dragon or a cybernetic vacuum cleaner gone rogue. If it fits with what the game is trying to be then its fine. Its just a 3d model made in Maya or 3D Studio Max. This is a game about people flying spaceships around in outerspace so your avatar is a spaceship just like it is in any other FPS space shooter. If you can only play mmos where you dress up your little man in outfits and equip him him with swords and laser guns in a failed attempt at fooling yourself into thinking you are unique then there are plenty of them around for ya. Go and play one of them instead and stop moaning about a game simply because it doesnt fit into your limited short-sighted view of what a game should be.
as i quickly stated below this is EVE re dux, they arent bringing anything new to the mmo world with this game. its ships and space whoopdy do, EVE did that, and with there minimal impact on the massive MMO player base, you would think a new MMO would have actual avatars that walk around and do something other than being a thing in a gooey pod floating in your ship. that type of immersion in my opinion would absolutely dominate the market. I for 1 and so freaking tired of fantasy based MMOs, I tried TR and it was so blah. I say black prophecy needs to add humanoids, or aliens or whatever or get the hell out of the playground we dont want it. If EVE added humanoids I would actually play it, but other than that its frickin boring to fly around shoot stuff and harvest asteroids.
No its not EVE re dux. Just because its a game set in space in which you control a ship doesnt mean its automatically a copy of EVE. Thats like saying every mmo in which you control a humanoid avatar is a copy of WoW. You say that BP isnt bringing anything new to the genre and in the same breath you say that they should copy all of the other mmos by allowing people to have humanoid avatars exactly like virtually every other mmo. Make your mind up. You say that a new mmo should have humanoid avatars because all of the other mmos which have humaoid avatars dominate the market.....ummm......well thats a reason to NOT do that then isnt it? Why make yet another mmo where you get to walk around with your little man when there are already so many of them. You're not making any sense at all. Yeah BP should just make their game like all the rest to appeal to the masses......not. You say you are so freaking tired of fantasy mmos and yet this is not a fantasy mmo. Its a game about having battles with space ships. There are other sci-fi mmos where you control a humanoid avatar. Maybe you should look at them instead of complaining about how this game is not designed with your specific requirements in mind. How dare they try and fill a gap in the market. The evil swine! "I say black prophecy needs to add humanoids, or aliens or whatever or get the hell out of the playground we dont want it." No YOU dont want it. Dont try and drag everyone else into your own narrow minded opinion. EVE is a great game and it stands out from the pile of crap that passes for most other mmos. Its also the only one of its kind which has done well so its great that BP is giving another option to people who like the idea of controlling a space ship in an mmo. If you dont like games where you control space ships then it would be in your best interests to stop posting in this forum then because this game isnt for you. Its not going to cater to people who want the bog standard humanoid avatars that we see in every other mmo so there isnt any point in moaning about the lack of humanoid avatars as it aint gonna happen. Would you go into the WoW forums and complain that it should let you fly a space ship? In BP your ship is your avatar because its a game about flying around in space in a space ship. Like it or lump it. EVE is adding humanoid avatars for when you wander around spaceships just to satisfy whiners like yourself. The silly thing is that its completely unnessary as that is not what the game is about. It will draw in people who dont like flying a space ship and then after a short while those people will start moaning because they cant shoot people in the space stations, kills mobs, farm loot and go up levels. Then they will cry even more when the real EVE players tell them all to fuck off.
my my my, arent you a long winded, word twisting asshole?
If you would put some vasaline on your head and pull it from your ass you would be able to understand what I meant. Having space ships and space stations is the quick, lazy and dirty way of doing it. Sure EVE is complex and and fun to play but simply flying around and mining isnt exactly my idea of a good time. Give me more depth and it will earn my subscription. The only thing I can see on the surface with BP is that it is adding a "guild hall" and some fancy wrighting that will probably end up being extermely linear. before a company claims to be innovative, they should actually be innovative, and before someone tries to flame me they should at least be able to comprehend.
3. Will it be possible to exit your ship and walk around on space stations or planets?
This feature will not be part of the release version but is not necessarily ruled out for any further expansions of Black Prophecy.
And this is why I will initially ignore this MMO.
Will I engage my enemies in combat? No. My ship will engage enemies in combat. Blah.
Will I get to board enemy ships and try to capture them? No. Either the enemy ship is outright destroyed, or it is merely *assumed* I boarded it and the step is skipped. BS.
Will there be planetside PvP? No. Those big balls of rock are just decoration.
No thanks. A ship is not an avatar. It's an impersonal pile of pixels with weapons systems.
Its a game about flying around in spaceships. Of course you cant get out of your ship or run around inside it. No you cant watch your silly little humanoid avatar use the toilet or have a drink in the canteen. Its a space game.
Big balls of rock just decoration? What are all those trees, mountains, hills and rivers etc in other mmos then? Its ALL decoration.
A ship is not an avatar? Of course it bloody well is. An impersonal pile of pixels? You dont think your little dwarf in WoW is actually alive do you? Oh look at him laugh when I type the /laugh emote! Oh now I can make him dance and clap his hands! Oh what fun! Oh he has such personality! Oh now I feel immersed in the game because he seems soooooo life like.
I'm glad the ship is the avatar in this game. Then I wont have to watch retards jumping up and down on the heads of npcs, setting off dance emotes like its the funniest thing they've ever done and generally acting like complete and utter twats.
It doesnt matter if the avatar is a spaceship, a dwarf, a dragon or a cybernetic vacuum cleaner gone rogue. If it fits with what the game is trying to be then its fine. Its just a 3d model made in Maya or 3D Studio Max. This is a game about people flying spaceships around in outerspace so your avatar is a spaceship just like it is in any other FPS space shooter. If you can only play mmos where you dress up your little man in outfits and equip him him with swords and laser guns in a failed attempt at fooling yourself into thinking you are unique then there are plenty of them around for ya. Go and play one of them instead and stop moaning about a game simply because it doesnt fit into your limited short-sighted view of what a game should be.
as i quickly stated below this is EVE re dux, they arent bringing anything new to the mmo world with this game. its ships and space whoopdy do, EVE did that, and with there minimal impact on the massive MMO player base, you would think a new MMO would have actual avatars that walk around and do something other than being a thing in a gooey pod floating in your ship. that type of immersion in my opinion would absolutely dominate the market. I for 1 and so freaking tired of fantasy based MMOs, I tried TR and it was so blah. I say black prophecy needs to add humanoids, or aliens or whatever or get the hell out of the playground we dont want it. If EVE added humanoids I would actually play it, but other than that its frickin boring to fly around shoot stuff and harvest asteroids.
No its not EVE re dux. Just because its a game set in space in which you control a ship doesnt mean its automatically a copy of EVE. Thats like saying every mmo in which you control a humanoid avatar is a copy of WoW.
You say that BP isnt bringing anything new to the genre and in the same breath you say that they should copy all of the other mmos by allowing people to have humanoid avatars exactly like virtually every other mmo. Make your mind up. You say that a new mmo should have humanoid avatars because all of the other mmos which have humaoid avatars dominate the market.....ummm......well thats a reason to NOT do that then isnt it? Why make yet another mmo where you get to walk around with your little man when there are already so many of them. You're not making any sense at all. Yeah BP should just make their game like all the rest to appeal to the masses......not.
You say you are so freaking tired of fantasy mmos and yet this is not a fantasy mmo. Its a game about having battles with space ships. There are other sci-fi mmos where you control a humanoid avatar. Maybe you should look at them instead of complaining about how this game is not designed with your specific requirements in mind. How dare they try and fill a gap in the market. The evil swine!
"I say black prophecy needs to add humanoids, or aliens or whatever or get the hell out of the playground we dont want it."
No YOU dont want it. Dont try and drag everyone else into your own narrow minded opinion. EVE is a great game and it stands out from the pile of crap that passes for most other mmos. Its also the only one of its kind which has done well so its great that BP is giving another option to people who like the idea of controlling a space ship in an mmo. If you dont like games where you control space ships then it would be in your best interests to stop posting in this forum then because this game isnt for you. Its not going to cater to people who want the bog standard humanoid avatars that we see in every other mmo so there isnt any point in moaning about the lack of humanoid avatars as it aint gonna happen. Would you go into the WoW forums and complain that it should let you fly a space ship? In BP your ship is your avatar because its a game about flying around in space in a space ship. Like it or lump it.
EVE is adding humanoid avatars for when you wander around spaceships just to satisfy whiners like yourself. The silly thing is that its completely unnessary as that is not what the game is about. It will draw in people who dont like flying a space ship and then after a short while those people will start moaning because they cant shoot people in the space stations, kills mobs, farm loot and go up levels. Then they will cry even more when the real EVE players tell them all to fuck off.
my my my,
arent you a long winded, word twisting asshole?
If you would put some vasaline on your head and pull it from your ass you would be able to understand what I meant. Having space ships and space stations is the quick, lazy and dirty way of doing it. Sure EVE is complex and and fun to play but simply flying around and mining isnt exactly my idea of a good time. Give me more depth and it will earn my subscription. The only thing I can see on the surface with BP is that it is adding a "guild hall" and some fancy wrighting that will probably end up being extermely linear. before a company claims to be innovative, they should actually be innovative, and before someone tries to flame me they should at least be able to comprehend.
Then dont play the game as its clearly not for you.
Is that short and simple enough for you..........you narrow minded asshole
Come on guys... don't devolve this thread into insults.
I see I'm not the only one that feels as I do. Neonwire does have something about that EvE is the only game so far on the market for spaceships other than SWG, but there is room to grow. However, where he and I disagree is with whether BP will be giving anything new to the genre, or whether it will be EvE with a couple of different mechanisms. I think Neonwire has missed where I said that there are other titles coming out before BP will be released that also have a spaceship component. STO for example will offer differences. BP won't just be competing with EvE, the heavyweight in this genre, it will also be competing with STO and Jumpgate Evolution. Right now, the information coming out makes BP sound like only an aspect of EvE with some different mechanics. I think it would only appeal to a niche of a niche.
Back in EvE. Started with BatMUD. Main MMOs have been EvE and DAoC.
Come on guys... don't devolve this thread into insults.
I see I'm not the only one that feels as I do. Neonwire does have something about that EvE is the only game so far on the market for spaceships other than SWG, but there is room to grow. However, where he and I disagree is with whether BP will be giving anything new to the genre, or whether it will be EvE with a couple of different mechanisms. I think Neonwire has missed where I said that there are other titles coming out before BP will be released that also have a spaceship component. STO for example will offer differences. BP won't just be competing with EvE, the heavyweight in this genre, it will also be competing with STO and Jumpgate Evolution. Right now, the information coming out makes BP sound like only an aspect of EvE with some different mechanics. I think it would only appeal to a niche of a niche.
Ahh the insults arent really that serious anyway. Its all just part of the fun.
I actually agree that BP probably wont bring anything shockingly new to computer games in general but then it doesnt have to to be a good game. However if it does manage to pull off the fast paced FPS-style gameplay that it seems to be indicating then that actually would be something which is relatively new to mmos as good skill-based gameplay is something that is missing in mmos. It would also make it vastly different to EVE which is a point and click game. Also it looks like BP is going to be a lot more story based and structured than EVE and is going to a quick and easy game to get into which again is something that will set it apart. Once you get past the "oh look it has spaceships in it" bit then actually it doesnt look like it is going to be very similar to EVE at all.
It might only appeal to a small number of players or it might appeal to a larger audience. Who knows and who cares? Its more variety on the space themed side of mmos so it can only be a good thing.
Ahh the insults arent really that serious anyway. Its all just part of the fun.
I actually agree that BP probably wont bring anything shockingly new to computer games in general but then it doesnt have to to be a good game. However if it does manage to pull off the fast paced FPS-style gameplay that it seems to be indicating then that actually would be something which is relatively new to mmos as good skill-based gameplay is something that is missing in mmos. It would also make it vastly different to EVE which is a point and click game. Also it looks like BP is going to be a lot more story based and structured than EVE and is going to a quick and easy game to get into which again is something that will set it apart. Once you get past the "oh look it has spaceships in it" bit then actually it doesnt look like it is going to be very similar to EVE at all.
It might only appeal to a small number of players or it might appeal to a larger audience. Who knows and who cares? Its more variety on the space themed side of mmos so it can only be a good thing.
Yes, indeed, we could do with a game like that, though even slow-paced and tactical would be cool. Something where players can truly match each other up in skills would be great.
Back in EvE. Started with BatMUD. Main MMOs have been EvE and DAoC.
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Its a game about flying around in spaceships. Of course you cant get out of your ship or run around inside it. No you cant watch your silly little humanoid avatar use the toilet or have a drink in the canteen. Its a space game.
Big balls of rock just decoration? What are all those trees, mountains, hills and rivers etc in other mmos then? Its ALL decoration.
A ship is not an avatar? Of course it bloody well is. An impersonal pile of pixels? You dont think your little dwarf in WoW is actually alive do you? Oh look at him laugh when I type the /laugh emote! Oh now I can make him dance and clap his hands! Oh what fun! Oh he has such personality! Oh now I feel immersed in the game because he seems soooooo life like.
I'm glad the ship is the avatar in this game. Then I wont have to watch retards jumping up and down on the heads of npcs, setting off dance emotes like its the funniest thing they've ever done and generally acting like complete and utter twats.
It doesnt matter if the avatar is a spaceship, a dwarf, a dragon or a cybernetic vacuum cleaner gone rogue. If it fits with what the game is trying to be then its fine. Its just a 3d model made in Maya or 3D Studio Max. This is a game about people flying spaceships around in outerspace so your avatar is a spaceship just like it is in any other FPS space shooter. If you can only play mmos where you dress up your little man in outfits and equip him him with swords and laser guns in a failed attempt at fooling yourself into thinking you are unique then there are plenty of them around for ya. Go and play one of them instead and stop moaning about a game simply because it doesnt fit into your limited short-sighted view of what a game should be.
as i quickly stated below this is EVE re dux, they arent bringing anything new to the mmo world with this game. its ships and space whoopdy do, EVE did that, and with there minimal impact on the massive MMO player base, you would think a new MMO would have actual avatars that walk around and do something other than being a thing in a gooey pod floating in your ship. that type of immersion in my opinion would absolutely dominate the market. I for 1 and so freaking tired of fantasy based MMOs, I tried TR and it was so blah. I say black prophecy needs to add humanoids, or aliens or whatever or get the hell out of the playground we dont want it. If EVE added humanoids I would actually play it, but other than that its frickin boring to fly around shoot stuff and harvest asteroids.
Fall 2009 = Eve introduces Ambulation
then they will most likely earn my subscription at that point at least until Star Wars: The Old republic comes out.
yeah i am becoming really torn also....i am a Star Wars freak....love it.....especially the original trilogy movies and the thrawn books....but eve....CCP knows what they are doing, and every single update this game becomes better and better...i am beginning to think that TOR and EVE are going to be going head to head competing for my game time.
yup im in the same boat, i prefer sci fi over fantasy, i cant wait for swtor.
Its a game about flying around in spaceships. Of course you cant get out of your ship or run around inside it. No you cant watch your silly little humanoid avatar use the toilet or have a drink in the canteen. Its a space game.
Big balls of rock just decoration? What are all those trees, mountains, hills and rivers etc in other mmos then? Its ALL decoration.
A ship is not an avatar? Of course it bloody well is. An impersonal pile of pixels? You dont think your little dwarf in WoW is actually alive do you? Oh look at him laugh when I type the /laugh emote! Oh now I can make him dance and clap his hands! Oh what fun! Oh he has such personality! Oh now I feel immersed in the game because he seems soooooo life like.
I'm glad the ship is the avatar in this game. Then I wont have to watch retards jumping up and down on the heads of npcs, setting off dance emotes like its the funniest thing they've ever done and generally acting like complete and utter twats.
It doesnt matter if the avatar is a spaceship, a dwarf, a dragon or a cybernetic vacuum cleaner gone rogue. If it fits with what the game is trying to be then its fine. Its just a 3d model made in Maya or 3D Studio Max. This is a game about people flying spaceships around in outerspace so your avatar is a spaceship just like it is in any other FPS space shooter. If you can only play mmos where you dress up your little man in outfits and equip him him with swords and laser guns in a failed attempt at fooling yourself into thinking you are unique then there are plenty of them around for ya. Go and play one of them instead and stop moaning about a game simply because it doesnt fit into your limited short-sighted view of what a game should be.
as i quickly stated below this is EVE re dux, they arent bringing anything new to the mmo world with this game. its ships and space whoopdy do, EVE did that, and with there minimal impact on the massive MMO player base, you would think a new MMO would have actual avatars that walk around and do something other than being a thing in a gooey pod floating in your ship. that type of immersion in my opinion would absolutely dominate the market. I for 1 and so freaking tired of fantasy based MMOs, I tried TR and it was so blah. I say black prophecy needs to add humanoids, or aliens or whatever or get the hell out of the playground we dont want it. If EVE added humanoids I would actually play it, but other than that its frickin boring to fly around shoot stuff and harvest asteroids.
No its not EVE re dux. Just because its a game set in space in which you control a ship doesnt mean its automatically a copy of EVE. Thats like saying every mmo in which you control a humanoid avatar is a copy of WoW.
You say that BP isnt bringing anything new to the genre and in the same breath you say that they should copy all of the other mmos by allowing people to have humanoid avatars exactly like virtually every other mmo. Make your mind up. You say that a new mmo should have humanoid avatars because all of the other mmos which have humaoid avatars dominate the market.....ummm......well thats a reason to NOT do that then isnt it? Why make yet another mmo where you get to walk around with your little man when there are already so many of them. You're not making any sense at all. Yeah BP should just make their game like all the rest to appeal to the masses......not.
You say you are so freaking tired of fantasy mmos and yet this is not a fantasy mmo. Its a game about having battles with space ships. There are other sci-fi mmos where you control a humanoid avatar. Maybe you should look at them instead of complaining about how this game is not designed with your specific requirements in mind. How dare they try and fill a gap in the market. The evil swine!
"I say black prophecy needs to add humanoids, or aliens or whatever or get the hell out of the playground we dont want it."
No YOU dont want it. Dont try and drag everyone else into your own narrow minded opinion. EVE is a great game and it stands out from the pile of crap that passes for most other mmos. Its also the only one of its kind which has done well so its great that BP is giving another option to people who like the idea of controlling a space ship in an mmo. If you dont like games where you control space ships then it would be in your best interests to stop posting in this forum then because this game isnt for you. Its not going to cater to people who want the bog standard humanoid avatars that we see in every other mmo so there isnt any point in moaning about the lack of humanoid avatars as it aint gonna happen. Would you go into the WoW forums and complain that it should let you fly a space ship? In BP your ship is your avatar because its a game about flying around in space in a space ship. Like it or lump it.
EVE is adding humanoid avatars for when you wander around spaceships just to satisfy whiners like yourself. The silly thing is that its completely unnessary as that is not what the game is about. It will draw in people who dont like flying a space ship and then after a short while those people will start moaning because they cant shoot people in the space stations, kills mobs, farm loot and go up levels. Then they will cry even more when the real EVE players tell them all to fuck off.
Its a game about flying around in spaceships. Of course you cant get out of your ship or run around inside it. No you cant watch your silly little humanoid avatar use the toilet or have a drink in the canteen. Its a space game.
Big balls of rock just decoration? What are all those trees, mountains, hills and rivers etc in other mmos then? Its ALL decoration.
A ship is not an avatar? Of course it bloody well is. An impersonal pile of pixels? You dont think your little dwarf in WoW is actually alive do you? Oh look at him laugh when I type the /laugh emote! Oh now I can make him dance and clap his hands! Oh what fun! Oh he has such personality! Oh now I feel immersed in the game because he seems soooooo life like.
I'm glad the ship is the avatar in this game. Then I wont have to watch retards jumping up and down on the heads of npcs, setting off dance emotes like its the funniest thing they've ever done and generally acting like complete and utter twats.
It doesnt matter if the avatar is a spaceship, a dwarf, a dragon or a cybernetic vacuum cleaner gone rogue. If it fits with what the game is trying to be then its fine. Its just a 3d model made in Maya or 3D Studio Max. This is a game about people flying spaceships around in outerspace so your avatar is a spaceship just like it is in any other FPS space shooter. If you can only play mmos where you dress up your little man in outfits and equip him him with swords and laser guns in a failed attempt at fooling yourself into thinking you are unique then there are plenty of them around for ya. Go and play one of them instead and stop moaning about a game simply because it doesnt fit into your limited short-sighted view of what a game should be.
as i quickly stated below this is EVE re dux, they arent bringing anything new to the mmo world with this game. its ships and space whoopdy do, EVE did that, and with there minimal impact on the massive MMO player base, you would think a new MMO would have actual avatars that walk around and do something other than being a thing in a gooey pod floating in your ship. that type of immersion in my opinion would absolutely dominate the market. I for 1 and so freaking tired of fantasy based MMOs, I tried TR and it was so blah. I say black prophecy needs to add humanoids, or aliens or whatever or get the hell out of the playground we dont want it. If EVE added humanoids I would actually play it, but other than that its frickin boring to fly around shoot stuff and harvest asteroids.
No its not EVE re dux. Just because its a game set in space in which you control a ship doesnt mean its automatically a copy of EVE. Thats like saying every mmo in which you control a humanoid avatar is a copy of WoW.
You say that BP isnt bringing anything new to the genre and in the same breath you say that they should copy all of the other mmos by allowing people to have humanoid avatars exactly like virtually every other mmo. Make your mind up. You say that a new mmo should have humanoid avatars because all of the other mmos which have humaoid avatars dominate the market.....ummm......well thats a reason to NOT do that then isnt it? Why make yet another mmo where you get to walk around with your little man when there are already so many of them. You're not making any sense at all. Yeah BP should just make their game like all the rest to appeal to the masses......not.
You say you are so freaking tired of fantasy mmos and yet this is not a fantasy mmo. Its a game about having battles with space ships. There are other sci-fi mmos where you control a humanoid avatar. Maybe you should look at them instead of complaining about how this game is not designed with your specific requirements in mind. How dare they try and fill a gap in the market. The evil swine!
"I say black prophecy needs to add humanoids, or aliens or whatever or get the hell out of the playground we dont want it."
No YOU dont want it. Dont try and drag everyone else into your own narrow minded opinion. EVE is a great game and it stands out from the pile of crap that passes for most other mmos. Its also the only one of its kind which has done well so its great that BP is giving another option to people who like the idea of controlling a space ship in an mmo. If you dont like games where you control space ships then it would be in your best interests to stop posting in this forum then because this game isnt for you. Its not going to cater to people who want the bog standard humanoid avatars that we see in every other mmo so there isnt any point in moaning about the lack of humanoid avatars as it aint gonna happen. Would you go into the WoW forums and complain that it should let you fly a space ship? In BP your ship is your avatar because its a game about flying around in space in a space ship. Like it or lump it.
EVE is adding humanoid avatars for when you wander around spaceships just to satisfy whiners like yourself. The silly thing is that its completely unnessary as that is not what the game is about. It will draw in people who dont like flying a space ship and then after a short while those people will start moaning because they cant shoot people in the space stations, kills mobs, farm loot and go up levels. Then they will cry even more when the real EVE players tell them all to fuck off.
my my my,
arent you a long winded, word twisting asshole?
If you would put some vasaline on your head and pull it from your ass you would be able to understand what I meant. Having space ships and space stations is the quick, lazy and dirty way of doing it. Sure EVE is complex and and fun to play but simply flying around and mining isnt exactly my idea of a good time. Give me more depth and it will earn my subscription. The only thing I can see on the surface with BP is that it is adding a "guild hall" and some fancy wrighting that will probably end up being extermely linear. before a company claims to be innovative, they should actually be innovative, and before someone tries to flame me they should at least be able to comprehend.
Its a game about flying around in spaceships. Of course you cant get out of your ship or run around inside it. No you cant watch your silly little humanoid avatar use the toilet or have a drink in the canteen. Its a space game.
Big balls of rock just decoration? What are all those trees, mountains, hills and rivers etc in other mmos then? Its ALL decoration.
A ship is not an avatar? Of course it bloody well is. An impersonal pile of pixels? You dont think your little dwarf in WoW is actually alive do you? Oh look at him laugh when I type the /laugh emote! Oh now I can make him dance and clap his hands! Oh what fun! Oh he has such personality! Oh now I feel immersed in the game because he seems soooooo life like.
I'm glad the ship is the avatar in this game. Then I wont have to watch retards jumping up and down on the heads of npcs, setting off dance emotes like its the funniest thing they've ever done and generally acting like complete and utter twats.
It doesnt matter if the avatar is a spaceship, a dwarf, a dragon or a cybernetic vacuum cleaner gone rogue. If it fits with what the game is trying to be then its fine. Its just a 3d model made in Maya or 3D Studio Max. This is a game about people flying spaceships around in outerspace so your avatar is a spaceship just like it is in any other FPS space shooter. If you can only play mmos where you dress up your little man in outfits and equip him him with swords and laser guns in a failed attempt at fooling yourself into thinking you are unique then there are plenty of them around for ya. Go and play one of them instead and stop moaning about a game simply because it doesnt fit into your limited short-sighted view of what a game should be.
as i quickly stated below this is EVE re dux, they arent bringing anything new to the mmo world with this game. its ships and space whoopdy do, EVE did that, and with there minimal impact on the massive MMO player base, you would think a new MMO would have actual avatars that walk around and do something other than being a thing in a gooey pod floating in your ship. that type of immersion in my opinion would absolutely dominate the market. I for 1 and so freaking tired of fantasy based MMOs, I tried TR and it was so blah. I say black prophecy needs to add humanoids, or aliens or whatever or get the hell out of the playground we dont want it. If EVE added humanoids I would actually play it, but other than that its frickin boring to fly around shoot stuff and harvest asteroids.
No its not EVE re dux. Just because its a game set in space in which you control a ship doesnt mean its automatically a copy of EVE. Thats like saying every mmo in which you control a humanoid avatar is a copy of WoW.
You say that BP isnt bringing anything new to the genre and in the same breath you say that they should copy all of the other mmos by allowing people to have humanoid avatars exactly like virtually every other mmo. Make your mind up. You say that a new mmo should have humanoid avatars because all of the other mmos which have humaoid avatars dominate the market.....ummm......well thats a reason to NOT do that then isnt it? Why make yet another mmo where you get to walk around with your little man when there are already so many of them. You're not making any sense at all. Yeah BP should just make their game like all the rest to appeal to the masses......not.
You say you are so freaking tired of fantasy mmos and yet this is not a fantasy mmo. Its a game about having battles with space ships. There are other sci-fi mmos where you control a humanoid avatar. Maybe you should look at them instead of complaining about how this game is not designed with your specific requirements in mind. How dare they try and fill a gap in the market. The evil swine!
"I say black prophecy needs to add humanoids, or aliens or whatever or get the hell out of the playground we dont want it."
No YOU dont want it. Dont try and drag everyone else into your own narrow minded opinion. EVE is a great game and it stands out from the pile of crap that passes for most other mmos. Its also the only one of its kind which has done well so its great that BP is giving another option to people who like the idea of controlling a space ship in an mmo. If you dont like games where you control space ships then it would be in your best interests to stop posting in this forum then because this game isnt for you. Its not going to cater to people who want the bog standard humanoid avatars that we see in every other mmo so there isnt any point in moaning about the lack of humanoid avatars as it aint gonna happen. Would you go into the WoW forums and complain that it should let you fly a space ship? In BP your ship is your avatar because its a game about flying around in space in a space ship. Like it or lump it.
EVE is adding humanoid avatars for when you wander around spaceships just to satisfy whiners like yourself. The silly thing is that its completely unnessary as that is not what the game is about. It will draw in people who dont like flying a space ship and then after a short while those people will start moaning because they cant shoot people in the space stations, kills mobs, farm loot and go up levels. Then they will cry even more when the real EVE players tell them all to fuck off.
my my my,
arent you a long winded, word twisting asshole?
If you would put some vasaline on your head and pull it from your ass you would be able to understand what I meant. Having space ships and space stations is the quick, lazy and dirty way of doing it. Sure EVE is complex and and fun to play but simply flying around and mining isnt exactly my idea of a good time. Give me more depth and it will earn my subscription. The only thing I can see on the surface with BP is that it is adding a "guild hall" and some fancy wrighting that will probably end up being extermely linear. before a company claims to be innovative, they should actually be innovative, and before someone tries to flame me they should at least be able to comprehend.
Then dont play the game as its clearly not for you.
Is that short and simple enough for you..........you narrow minded asshole
Come on guys... don't devolve this thread into insults.
I see I'm not the only one that feels as I do. Neonwire does have something about that EvE is the only game so far on the market for spaceships other than SWG, but there is room to grow. However, where he and I disagree is with whether BP will be giving anything new to the genre, or whether it will be EvE with a couple of different mechanisms. I think Neonwire has missed where I said that there are other titles coming out before BP will be released that also have a spaceship component. STO for example will offer differences. BP won't just be competing with EvE, the heavyweight in this genre, it will also be competing with STO and Jumpgate Evolution. Right now, the information coming out makes BP sound like only an aspect of EvE with some different mechanics. I think it would only appeal to a niche of a niche.
Back in EvE. Started with BatMUD. Main MMOs have been EvE and DAoC.
Ahh the insults arent really that serious anyway. Its all just part of the fun.
I actually agree that BP probably wont bring anything shockingly new to computer games in general but then it doesnt have to to be a good game. However if it does manage to pull off the fast paced FPS-style gameplay that it seems to be indicating then that actually would be something which is relatively new to mmos as good skill-based gameplay is something that is missing in mmos. It would also make it vastly different to EVE which is a point and click game. Also it looks like BP is going to be a lot more story based and structured than EVE and is going to a quick and easy game to get into which again is something that will set it apart. Once you get past the "oh look it has spaceships in it" bit then actually it doesnt look like it is going to be very similar to EVE at all.
It might only appeal to a small number of players or it might appeal to a larger audience. Who knows and who cares? Its more variety on the space themed side of mmos so it can only be a good thing.
Ahh the insults arent really that serious anyway. Its all just part of the fun.
I actually agree that BP probably wont bring anything shockingly new to computer games in general but then it doesnt have to to be a good game. However if it does manage to pull off the fast paced FPS-style gameplay that it seems to be indicating then that actually would be something which is relatively new to mmos as good skill-based gameplay is something that is missing in mmos. It would also make it vastly different to EVE which is a point and click game. Also it looks like BP is going to be a lot more story based and structured than EVE and is going to a quick and easy game to get into which again is something that will set it apart. Once you get past the "oh look it has spaceships in it" bit then actually it doesnt look like it is going to be very similar to EVE at all.
It might only appeal to a small number of players or it might appeal to a larger audience. Who knows and who cares? Its more variety on the space themed side of mmos so it can only be a good thing.
Yes, indeed, we could do with a game like that, though even slow-paced and tactical would be cool. Something where players can truly match each other up in skills would be great.
Back in EvE. Started with BatMUD. Main MMOs have been EvE and DAoC.
they need to jus bring back E&B ...
it's sad really it had all the stuff these new games put a soon (tm) tag on.
Well i will be staying in wow as its nice and slow combat and i need to log in for 7 hours to feel like i achieved something cool.
This game sound to exciting and enjoyable to play and it seems i only have to logg in a few hours a day to get he action..