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cynon
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ok...so the learning curve is steep apparently (ok ok...do i didnt believe all of you). I just restarted my character. does race and bloodline really mean anything? i picked the corporate guys just because i like the thought of being a malcontent in the system. anyways guys, i hope to make it through the toutorial without going insane this time. wish me luck
This really is not WoW/EQ where Gear makes the man. Here in eVE, the man with biggest balls, willing to risk the most, will win. It is risk/reward here- not always wear best items 24/7 and beat the crap out of all else.
-PatchDay
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good luck buddie
go find a decent corp that will give you some help on voice.
eve is swimming in the deep end of the pool and you can sink really fast.
played:WoW and Eve off and on 5 years
Tried:CoH/V, PoTBS, War, TR, STO, FE
TOR is likely to rock
I would suggest that you join Eve University as your first corp. They really make the transition much easier. Linkage...www.eve-ivy.com/
thanks guys for the encouragement. last night i wanted to throw my computer out the window (im at that point again that i was last night where i guess i hit autopilot without a destination or something and about 3 gates later had vertigo).
This really is not WoW/EQ where Gear makes the man. Here in eVE, the man with biggest balls, willing to risk the most, will win. It is risk/reward here- not always wear best items 24/7 and beat the crap out of all else.
-PatchDay
since the last expansion bloodline and background mean nothing and race has a minimal effect.
The key is what type of play style you like.
missles and shields ?
guns and shields?
lasors and armor?
guns and armor?
drones and armor?
that determines what race you should pick :-)
way back 3.5 years ago when I started I went caldari and stayed there now I am a missle monster and shield tank.
played:WoW and Eve off and on 5 years
Tried:CoH/V, PoTBS, War, TR, STO, FE
TOR is likely to rock
...so im running the game in the background and basically am lost already. i ended up finishing the beginning toutorial and now am in some weird galaxy just putzing around. i like the thought of lighter harder hitting ships but i think everyone does probably. do i just wander around looking for things to do now?
This really is not WoW/EQ where Gear makes the man. Here in eVE, the man with biggest balls, willing to risk the most, will win. It is risk/reward here- not always wear best items 24/7 and beat the crap out of all else.
-PatchDay
I just started the trial a few days ago, and i was in the same boat as you pretty quick. If you look at the 'people and places' tab, under 'agents' you can see every agent that will give you work, including the ones you already completed. You can talk to them and see if they have missions for you, or set your destination to them from there.
The learning curve is pretty steep and slippery, I'd say AO is a distant second in terms or just overwhelming you with options and information right away... add to that the fact that the tutorial wording isn't exactly crystal clear sometimes and it can be a little frustrating, if not outright overwhelming.
I'm trying to just wade through it, but i am kinda stuck right now waiting for training that will take days. The ship I have now was fine for a few days, now that i upgraded a few pieces of gear it's "capacitor is empty" about 10 seconds in to a fight. If I roll back to the civilian equipment that goes away, but I have to warp in and out of missions a few times to clear all the baddies without losing my ship... which i had happen for the first time today. The ship was insured, but I just spent almost a million ISK on a capacitor upgrade mod and it's gone now.
I am only a few days in to a 21 day trial and right now I do think I'll sub when the time is up. I am concerned that all the training is going to get really long, and it will become a game where I just log in to look at my training queue and then wait for days before I have any real reason to log back in.
Is it just me, or are there remarkably few different ships in the game for a game where you actually play as a ship?
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once you get out of hi sec..theres tons of ships in game (cant use many in hi sec)
www.eveonlineships.com/
Depends on you. From my own expirience in the past, and probably what most people do before they get bored and quit is mining and mission running. All they do is mining and mission running, which are probably the two most boring repetitive things in eve and most players playing longer only use them to get funds and materials to finance and support their other activities which are fun to them.
First there is an established mindset from other (leveling) MMOs, which most people that cross over are unable to get rid of that fast - that bigger is better and that bigger ship is synonimous with being a bigger level, more uber, tougher to kill etc. In eve it is not the case. First you have to find an activity that is fun to you and you want to prosper in, and then you have to find a ship that is best for that purpose, and train your skills in that dirrectionregardless if you are flying a frigate after 3 months - frigates have their purpose same as battleships - they are not a lvl1 and lvl60 ships.
Second, there is alot of activities in the sandbox enviroment of eve, that you can do,
- become a trading mogul
- own a shipyard
- develop a company offering some kind of services to players/corps/alliances (transport of goods, fueling etc.)
on a pvp side
- join alliance warfare
- join a small gang skirmish corp
- become a pirate
- become a pirate hunter
- be a thief or a criminal
These are just some of the examples. Limit is your own imagination and how to put it in practice withing the confines of EVE game mechanics (which are pretty loose and allow alot of things as long as you do some thinking). That is the beauty of EVE, and that is what most people are having a hard time to grasp after being brainwashed for the past decade with the leveling threadmills MMOs have become.
Just don't limit yourself to mining and mission running except to support your other activities. If you do, you will do it for a month or even less, find yourself just loging in to put up skills for training and log out. After a couple more weeks you will quit, without even touching the game that EVE is.
Off the almost 300 ships there is 17 you can not use is High sec all of which are the capitals.
Depends on you. From my own expirience in the past, and probably what most people do before they get bored and quit is mining and mission running. All they do is mining and mission running, which are probably the two most boring repetitive things in eve and most players playing longer only use them to get funds and materials to finance and support their other activities which are fun to them.
First there is an established mindset from other (leveling) MMOs, which most people that cross over are unable to get rid of that fast - that bigger is better and that bigger ship is synonimous with being a bigger level, more uber, tougher to kill etc. In eve it is not the case. First you have to find an activity that is fun to you and you want to prosper in, and then you have to find a ship that is best for that purpose, and train your skills in that dirrectionregardless if you are flying a frigate after 3 months - frigates have their purpose same as battleships - they are not a lvl1 and lvl60 ships.
Second, there is alot of activities in the sandbox enviroment of eve, that you can do,
- become a trading mogul
- own a shipyard
- develop a company offering some kind of services to players/corps/alliances (transport of goods, fueling etc.)
on a pvp side
- join alliance warfare
- join a small gang skirmish corp
- become a pirate
- become a pirate hunter
- be a thief or a criminal
These are just some of the examples. Limit is your own imagination and how to put it in practice withing the confines of EVE game mechanics (which are pretty loose and allow alot of things as long as you do some thinking). That is the beauty of EVE, and that is what most people are having a hard time to grasp after being brainwashed for the past decade with the leveling threadmills MMOs have become.
Just don't limit yourself to mining and mission running except to support your other activities. If you do, you will do it for a month or even less, find yourself just loging in to put up skills for training and log out. After a couple more weeks you will quit, without even touching the game that EVE is.
Well said. I run 2 accounts - 1 is my miner who funds the other. I just started a new character on the other account because I wanted a "pure" fighter and I wanted to check out the new newbie experience. It is to be frank more confusing than it was. At least in the old way you got to choose up front what path you wanted, now it depends on the missions you run after the initial tutorial. To me that was a plus, once I figured it out. I just want to be a fighter - so the industry skills are not needed by this character - any of that I can do on my other character.
My advice to real new people is to do the tutorial and then as much of the secondary quests as you want. Before you start the game it is an advantage to know if you want to go into 1 thing, if you don't then a jack of all trades approach may help you decide. Good luck - hope to see you in game. My new character is a Gallente named Gaunt Redemption, say hi if you want... just don't lock target on me - no sense of humor.
Off the almost 300 ships there is 17 you can not use is High sec all of which are the capitals.
How many ships would you say are actually in regular use? Also, how many of those 300 are visually unique? I know there are variants of each ship which apparently look the same except for the accent color. What I am getting at is, do you really see that much variety, or is it the same 10 or 12 ship models all the time?
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Off the almost 300 ships there is 17 you can not use is High sec all of which are the capitals.
How many ships would you say are actually in regular use? Also, how many of those 300 are visually unique? I know there are variants of each ship which apparently look the same except for the accent color. What I am getting at is, do you really see that much variety, or is it the same 10 or 12 ship models all the time?
Most are used at some point in time.
4 rookie
4 shuttles
32 frig models
19 cruiser models
8 Battlecruiser models
16 BS models
12 industrial
4 Freighter
5 Ore Ships
4 each of Carriers/Dread/Moms/titan
Thinks that pretty accurate for completely different models, most T2 is just Paint/bits so was excluded as well as the paint job changes for pirate ships.
Okay, so I hear sooo much great stuff about this game...i went out and bought the special edition release and I'm gonna install it soon....
I have been reading the EVE forums for about three months now just to decide if I really wanted to play...I decided it looked like the best MMO around...so I had to give it a try...
So, from the information I have gathered I pretty much think you kinda should have an idea of what you want to do in the game beforehand, or else your various options will overwhelm you...
I realize I want to try a less aggressive approach and maybe not get involved in combat unless it is absolutley necessary for survival...I'll probably do some stuff for corps.
PLAYING: NOTHING!!!
PLAYED:FFXI, LotRO, AoC, WAR, DDO, Megaten, Wurm, Rohan, Mabinogi, RoM
WAITING FOR: Dust 514
ships are tools.
there is no single I win button ship.
Ask yourself, What am I doing?
missions? what level? that will deiced what ship I fly
PVP? camping(falcon)? hunting(cerb or falcon)? pos killing(raven or phoenix)? big fleet (rohk with rails)?
PVE? ratting (raven or domi)? complex( raven or baslisk)? sleepers (scorp)?
Mining? ore? ice?
these are just a small subset of roles, find a role and fill it well.
In 21 days try and do all you can, to see how the game works.. see if you can find a corp that will take you on trial, many will not.
good luck.
played:WoW and Eve off and on 5 years
Tried:CoH/V, PoTBS, War, TR, STO, FE
TOR is likely to rock
More than half of the people who commented here dont even know what are they talking about. OMG this is funny.
like this guy here. I quote " not all ships are available in hi sec " are u nutz?
need help in game? just ask for help in your local channel and u will get it.
maybe you should learn about eve before you insult someone.
Capitol class ships*, titans, etc cannot be flown in Hi Sec.
*Freighters are an exception
that was pretty funny.
maybe you should learn about eve before you insult someone.
Capitol class ships*, titans, etc cannot be flown in Hi Sec.
*Freighters are an exception
And Orca
Depends on you. From my own expirience in the past, and probably what most people do before they get bored and quit is mining and mission running. All they do is mining and mission running, which are probably the two most boring repetitive things in eve and most players playing longer only use them to get funds and materials to finance and support their other activities which are fun to them.
First there is an established mindset from other (leveling) MMOs, which most people that cross over are unable to get rid of that fast - that bigger is better and that bigger ship is synonimous with being a bigger level, more uber, tougher to kill etc. In eve it is not the case. First you have to find an activity that is fun to you and you want to prosper in, and then you have to find a ship that is best for that purpose, and train your skills in that dirrectionregardless if you are flying a frigate after 3 months - frigates have their purpose same as battleships - they are not a lvl1 and lvl60 ships.
Second, there is alot of activities in the sandbox enviroment of eve, that you can do,
- become a trading mogul
- own a shipyard
- develop a company offering some kind of services to players/corps/alliances (transport of goods, fueling etc.)
on a pvp side
- join alliance warfare
- join a small gang skirmish corp
- become a pirate
- become a pirate hunter
- be a thief or a criminal
These are just some of the examples. Limit is your own imagination and how to put it in practice withing the confines of EVE game mechanics (which are pretty loose and allow alot of things as long as you do some thinking). That is the beauty of EVE, and that is what most people are having a hard time to grasp after being brainwashed for the past decade with the leveling threadmills MMOs have become.
Just don't limit yourself to mining and mission running except to support your other activities. If you do, you will do it for a month or even less, find yourself just loging in to put up skills for training and log out. After a couple more weeks you will quit, without even touching the game that EVE is.
I totally agree.I tried this game last year and did exactly what you stated above and was fed up in two days.I really wanted to like this game.I am back again with the 21 day trial with a new attitude.After a 6 month stint in WAR(and all the others),I have had enough of the fantasy treadmill,the crappy balance,etc.I need a change and I think EVE will be what I need.
Then there are ships like the Opux Luxury Yacht.
"Memories are meant to fade. They're designed that way for a reason."
yeah right
if you do not know the person be very careful about taking advice or fleeting up or going through a wormhole.
Lots of people who like nothing more than killing new players
played:WoW and Eve off and on 5 years
Tried:CoH/V, PoTBS, War, TR, STO, FE
TOR is likely to rock
If you get totally lost /bored try being a criminal. Run around in a cheap frigate and steal from people mining, steal from their wrecks ect. Roll out to the eve gate (through low sec) or other locations on the map and take a look at the sights. Try and see how far you can get through 0.0 in a punisher before you get omgwtfpwnbbqd. Train up your scanning skills and scan down mission runners then jump in a salvage ship and steal all their wrecks (Good money there).
You can do almost anything. Thats the beuty of it. Figure out how to make money that is fun to you. Hell I ran across a mining belt while scanning and said screw it ima go look. I found an afk hulk pilot and one guy in a slowwww bestower trying to haul out like 10 cans worth of jaspet they had mined. I sold the location in local chat for 2 mill to 3 industrial pilots in system who then warped to me and stole most of the cans of jaspet.
Or be the guy that protects those type of players and shoot people like me that are scumbags.
Whatever you want to do ...you can do. Well you can't put 16 T-2 rails on a Rohk...Pity.
G luck to you. Have fun, trust NO ONE, fly what you can afford to lose, and watch your back