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FE|Tachyon
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in Shadowbane
I think WoW PvP servers will totaly destory SB's populations.
Played both. WoW in Beta . They are both the same market, and WoW seems to be the better game.
What do you think?
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How can you compare WoW with Shadowbane? They are two completely different games.
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You do realize that a significant amount of SB players are "carebears" and that they would prefer to join WoW over a bleeding SB game that has lower pop #'s by the month?
SB is a dying game, its been dying for awhile now. Changes such as goldmines, ToO, and the such were too little too late.
Not to mention many larger guilds have lost most membership interest in the game and are looking for another game to move into as a guild.
SB WAS good, but its dying. Im looking forward to DF and hope that it is not cancled in production although it sadly seems like it will be.
Well my guild all quit SB, if there are say only 4 others like mine, thats 200 active people gone which would damage quite a bit.
I think not everyone will enjoy WoW, but it will do enough to damage SB.
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Shadowbane is a game like no other and because of this will survive for some time to come. The character customization in SB takes a big steaming crap on the face of WoW and because of that alone will keep ppl playing.
I dont play SB anymore, but it is still and will probably always be in my top 5 MMOs of all time.
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I don't think SB is gonna be around forever. WoW is a different gameplay but I think that after playing SB for so long that it will be attractive.
Can't compare SWG with WoW because SWG is a separate animal and it flopped. It was the biggest let down any MMO could come close to getting. I doubt that WoW will be. I've heard nothing but great things for the MMO.
I know all the die hard SB people in my guild, including myself, are warpping it up for comming up games, from EQ2 to Wow. Even the die hard pvper's, why, there tired of SB. You can only play the same game so many times before you need a change.
"Darkfall" or "Dark and Light" will have an adverse effect on Shadowbane, perhaps "Guildwars" as well to a lesser extent - however I don't see WoW having a huge impact in terms of similar gameplay. WoW may still have an impact however since many people will want to check it out - by the time they are done that D&L or Darkfall will be ready to rock and then SB has issues.
If I owned SB my goal would be to retain that core set of players by developing SB2 and migrating them over ....
SB is a completely different game to WoW. Wow is more for those who wish simple combat with little depth and like spending hours and hours doing repetative combat while levelling. It completely lacks any depth but looks pretty.
I think later in the future,when all the bigger named MMORPG's are slowing,they should make a complete Sequal to Shadowbane.I loved the player Citys and the Nations and Guilds and everything!The grind was almost around perfect,not too hard,but not too easy.Anyways,I think they should make a sequal later on improving all the things that they messed up in the 1st one.How about Lag for 1....
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Are you aware of how long it took them to make SB1? They pushed the release date back years, plural, and it was still full of gamestoping bugs a year after release. Probably still has them now actually. I agree with the earlier poster from Desolation that it certainly is one of my top5 MMORPG's also just because the concepts were some damn fun/cool.
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Still get sb.exe errors durring play? Or any crash to desktop/perma freeze bugs?
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Actually unless things have changed drastically there are plenty of small cities in crappy areas that could be conqurered relativly quickly by a relativly small group of determined friends. The building comes after you've thrown the previous owner out.
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IMO SB is the ultimate PVP game. The pure dept and strategic aspect of it makes it completely uncompareble to more or less all other games. But its also dieing. Can do mutch about it. The low server pop.. the outdated gfx and for some fubar reson it still lags... But i still cling on to the hope of a SB 2. Propperly not gonna happend.. But one can always hope..
SB WILL be taking a hit when WoW comes out, at least in terms of the larger and more organized guilds.
Many of said guilds are having low participation in the game and many are off waiting for the next game. WoW is where these guilds will be turning up becuase its the only place to go ATM.
SB is dead tho. It IS the BEST PVP IDEA for a game. Heck there were some very fun fights in that game as well, and to be honest it was one of the few games where you had a huge class diversity while maintaining balance.
Groups, builds, everything in the idea was awesome just awesome.
IMHO they should just copy some of the core idea concepts and classes/discs and work on a new game and build a new engine and a new server structure.
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While I am not playing SB at the moment, I still use it as the gold standard against which all other games have failed imo.
Sure the client was buggy as hell, and there were some major problems. But even with all that 5 or 6 out of my top ten gaming moments were from SB.
I recall hitting LoD when they had all of Ice Island when I was in Silent Tribe. I logged at 10am Sunday morning, and stopped at server restart the next day. That was the best war I was ever in.
The pure concept of it simply cannot be beat.
Come to think of it, I think I will go pick up the expansion and re-up my account. Cannot stand the carebears in the other games I have played since.
If there is a SB2, put me down for 2 copies, if only to pump the amount of money they make and keep it going.
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Silent Tribe? TBW member here. You sure remember the good old days.
Actually I have played SB off and on since the second build of beta. Despite its problems it has somethings that if you havent experienced them as an MMOer...you are missing out on experiences EVER gamer should have:
a) Seiges - I remember the HUGE 200 vs 200 person seiges that took 4 hours. Even still, the 20 vs 30 or 15 vs 19 seiges today are still a heck of a lot of fun.
b) Merchanting - what an amazing way to use NPC vendors and create whole merchant towns! EQ2 still cant get this right...and its been how many years?
c) Character creation - not necessarily the graphics (although the races do look really different and cool) the use of starting runes (+'s and -'s to skills at creation) as well as a template system so every character didnt look the bloody same....no "next generation" mmo has really met this challenge.
Seriously..if they redid the entire graphic engine, worked for 2 years on actual content..and republished ShadowBane 2.0...it think it would be a top seller.
Actually...i think thats what DarkFall is going to turn out to be.
If you are bored and looking for a game to try...SB is worth a shot.
Hello all,
I'm a hardcore SB'er also. I spent a long time in Beta. I don't recall exactly the version number, but it was late 2001, back when Minotaurs Rangers was a hot build. Yes, it was highly imbalanced at the time and was therefore taken out, but it did represent great minds at work.
I only wish that the general public were aware that Shadowbane started almost 7 years ago as a MUD. Yeah that's right, a MUD. It then grew into more as time went on. There are some great screenshots of builds dating as far back as 1999, through to more recent builds.
Anyhow, what I'm trying to get to saying is that I really enjoy SB. I think it still has alot of value and there is only better on the way now that Ubisoft has purchased Wolfpack Studios.
As anyone who is up to speed about Wolfpack, will know that, they are working on some new exciting MMO project. Ubisoft's purchase of the studio was to ensure them, Ubisoft, a dedicated MMO studio, Wolfpack'ers.
Personaly, I can't wait to see what is comming. I'm certain we will get wind of their new project by 2006 or 2007. And with the current trend of refinements to SB, they will be around for a long time.
Hmmm, *scratches head* ... I have no real point. Too bad cause I had all this steam.
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