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So, has enough time passed for ordinary people to ask a perfectly ordinary question without getting
hubertgrove
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How did Laura Genender die?
I didn't know her that well but we exchanged notes and she was very friendly and helpful over one issue that was giving me trouble. So, I would like to know why and how this young woman died.
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And was this the same woman who was editor of Game Developer Magazine several years ago? I exchanged emails with her back then, if so. Really nice person she was.
"If you can't out wit them, report them till they're banned!"- PopinJ'
I am not sure. She was a very professional and genuinely sympathetic mods on this board - and she had just started up a new job for CCP , helping to manage the EVE community. And then, quite suddenly, she was dead.
I remember reading that Laura became unwell and called for help. When help arrived, it was already too late. Thats just what I have heard, I don't know how accurate it is.
It's a great loss for everyone, she was at the start of a great career and her life ending at such a young age is terrible.
I believe there was a tribute of sorts in the News section, it hasn't been all that long so it should be relatively easy to find. I think the "how" was addressed in that article.
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Originally posted by javac
well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218865/page/8
There is only one reason why people are being secretive about her sudden unexpected death which happened in her home.
It must have been alcohol or drug related.
I don't get why it needs to be a big secret. It would serve as a positive warning to others that casual drug or alcohol use can be dangerous.
They were not being "secretive" about it. Nobody has an obligation to note a persons cause of death, especialy online.
If alcahol or drugs are the only reasons you can think of when someone does not like to mention the cause of a persons death on the internet , you need to crawl from under that rock you live under.
To think that you should receive full-disclosure of the details behind someone's death, especially online, is very self-centered; and to make assumptions as to the circumstances is just plain stupid.
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Originally posted by javac
well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218865/page/8
Please don't be abusive. This thread is a simple enquiry about a person with whom I had friendly contact and who once worked for this board. I do not wish this thread turned into yet another fight about nothing.
Please don't be abusive. This thread is a simple enquiry about a person with whom I had friendly contact and who once worked for this board. I do not wish this thread turned into yet another fight about nothing.
I'm being abusive!? You don't think the accussation that she was an alcaholic or a drug user is a tiny bit insulting?
Please don't be abusive. This thread is a simple enquiry about a person with whom I had friendly contact and who once worked for this board. I do not wish this thread turned into yet another fight about nothing.
Are you sure you quoted the correct person?
If it were to degenerate into a fight, it would likely be about the commentary of drug/alcohol abuse as a cause of death. I consider the insinuation quite inappropriate, which is quite a comment coming from me of all posters - I realize this.
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Originally posted by javac
well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218865/page/8
They were not being "secretive" about it. Nobody has an obligation to note a persons cause of death, especialy online.
If alcahol or drugs are the only reasons you can think of when someone does not like to mention the cause of a persons death on the internet , you need to crawl from under that rock you live under.
I agree wit you on this game. If they wanted to tell us they would have. the rights of the family are the onlything that matters in a time like this and makeing baseless claims about her wont do anything.
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Please don't be abusive. This thread is a simple enquiry about a person with whom I had friendly contact and who once worked for this board. I do not wish this thread turned into yet another fight about nothing.
I'm being abusive!? You don't think the accussation that she was an alcaholic or a drug user is a tiny bit insulting?
Yes you are being abusive. No where did I suggest she was an alcoholic or drug abuser. Reading is fundamental.
I had more interaction with Laura than any other staff member of this site and she was very much the professional.
I said it appears that casual use was the cause, and her tragedy could be turned into a positive warning for many people who visit this site and seem to think there is no danger in recreational alcohol or drug use.
Well, I'm sorry to hear that - and wish her well, wherever she is.
It's strange how prissy and prudish people become when discussing something as basic and simple as death.
I for one am proud that there's still enough privacy in the world that people decide to actually ask this question.
I find it amazing that by 2020 first world countries will be competing to get immigrants.
Autoerotic asphixiation is all fun and games until someone gets hurt.
Tell your children about the dangers before it happens to them.
This ridiculous comment reeks of smalltown snobbishness. You favour gossip, rumour and innuendo rather than plain speaking then. Who are you? Hyacinth Bouquet?
Please don't be abusive. This thread is a simple enquiry about a person with whom I had friendly contact and who once worked for this board. I do not wish this thread turned into yet another fight about nothing.
I'm being abusive!? You don't think the accussation that she was an alcaholic or a drug user is a tiny bit insulting?
Yes you are being abusive. No where did I suggest she was an alcoholic or drug abuser. Reading is fundamental.
I had more interaction with Laura than any other staff member of this site and she was very much the professional.
I said it appears that casual use was the cause, and her tragedy could be turned into a positive warning for many people who visit this site and seem to think there is no danger in recreational alcohol or drug use.
Yes you did, perhaps you should actually read your own post before you click on "Post reply."
This is exactly what you posted:
"There is only one reason why people are being secretive about her sudden unexpected death which happened in her home.
It must have been alcohol or drug related.
I don't get why it needs to be a big secret. It would serve as a positive warning to others that casual drug or alcohol use can be dangerous."
You said that the only reason they were being "secretive" about her sudden unexpected death is because of ONLY ONE REASON, and that's because of alcahol or drug use.
Don't even bother trying to bullshit your way out of this, your words are right there in your post. You accussed her of misuse of Alcahol and/or drug use and the only reason for that is because they didn't mention the cause of death.
Also, you never used the word "Casual", not that it would do much good for your accussation even if you did.
no matter what she did when she's live, there's no need to argue about now. she's a nice person and should enjoy the peace after death.
Please don't be abusive. This thread is a simple enquiry about a person with whom I had friendly contact and who once worked for this board. I do not wish this thread turned into yet another fight about nothing.
I'm being abusive!? You don't think the accussation that she was an alcaholic or a drug user is a tiny bit insulting?
Yes you are being abusive. No where did I suggest she was an alcoholic or drug abuser. Reading is fundamental.
I had more interaction with Laura than any other staff member of this site and she was very much the professional.
I said it appears that casual use was the cause, and her tragedy could be turned into a positive warning for many people who visit this site and seem to think there is no danger in recreational alcohol or drug use.
Yes you did, perhaps you should actually read your own post before you click on "Post reply."
This is exactly what you posted:
"There is only one reason why people are being secretive about her sudden unexpected death which happened in her home.
It must have been alcohol or drug related.
I don't get why it needs to be a big secret. It would serve as a positive warning to others that casual drug or alcohol use can be dangerous."
You said that the only reason they were being "secretive" about her sudden unexpected death is because of ONLY ONE REASON, and that's because of alcahol or drug use.
Don't even bother trying to bullshit your way out of this, your words are right there in your post. You accussed her of misuse of Alcahol and/or drug use and the only reason for that is because they didn't mention the cause of death.
Also, you never used the word "Casual", not that it would do much good for your accussation even if you did.
WoW. You must feel really STUPID right about now.
Please don't be abusive. This thread is a simple enquiry about a person with whom I had friendly contact and who once worked for this board. I do not wish this thread turned into yet another fight about nothing.
I'm being abusive!? You don't think the accussation that she was an alcaholic or a drug user is a tiny bit insulting?
Yes you are being abusive. No where did I suggest she was an alcoholic or drug abuser. Reading is fundamental.
I had more interaction with Laura than any other staff member of this site and she was very much the professional.
I said it appears that casual use was the cause, and her tragedy could be turned into a positive warning for many people who visit this site and seem to think there is no danger in recreational alcohol or drug use.
Yes you did, perhaps you should actually read your own post before you click on "Post reply."
This is exactly what you posted:
"There is only one reason why people are being secretive about her sudden unexpected death which happened in her home.
It must have been alcohol or drug related.
I don't get why it needs to be a big secret. It would serve as a positive warning to others that casual drug or alcohol use can be dangerous."
You said that the only reason they were being "secretive" about her sudden unexpected death is because of ONLY ONE REASON, and that's because of alcahol or drug use.
Don't even bother trying to bullshit your way out of this, your words are right there in your post. You accussed her of misuse of Alcahol and/or drug use and the only reason for that is because they didn't mention the cause of death.
Also, you never used the word "Casual", not that it would do much good for your accussation even if you did.
WoW. You must feel really STUPID right about now.
Don't get too proud of yourself, you should be feeling pretty damn stupid yourself right about now. And what the hell is 'casual' alcohol/drug use, you either use or you don't. What you think she died from a few beers or a quick J. It would have to be a hell of a lot more than 'casual'.
How do you think you're helping the OP by making assumptions, if you don't actually know then keep quiet huh.
O_o o_O
Please don't be abusive. This thread is a simple enquiry about a person with whom I had friendly contact and who once worked for this board. I do not wish this thread turned into yet another fight about nothing.
I'm being abusive!? You don't think the accussation that she was an alcaholic or a drug user is a tiny bit insulting?
Yes you are being abusive. No where did I suggest she was an alcoholic or drug abuser. Reading is fundamental.
I had more interaction with Laura than any other staff member of this site and she was very much the professional.
I said it appears that casual use was the cause, and her tragedy could be turned into a positive warning for many people who visit this site and seem to think there is no danger in recreational alcohol or drug use.
Yes you did, perhaps you should actually read your own post before you click on "Post reply."
This is exactly what you posted:
"There is only one reason why people are being secretive about her sudden unexpected death which happened in her home.
It must have been alcohol or drug related.
I don't get why it needs to be a big secret. It would serve as a positive warning to others that casual drug or alcohol use can be dangerous."
You said that the only reason they were being "secretive" about her sudden unexpected death is because of ONLY ONE REASON, and that's because of alcahol or drug use.
Don't even bother trying to bullshit your way out of this, your words are right there in your post. You accussed her of misuse of Alcahol and/or drug use and the only reason for that is because they didn't mention the cause of death.
Also, you never used the word "Casual", not that it would do much good for your accussation even if you did.
WoW. You must feel really STUPID right about now.
While I indeed missed that part, it doesn't help your accussation one bit. What, you think accussing somebody of using drugs/alcahol to the point they die from it is okay as long as you use the word casual?
Bottom line stands. You accussed somebody who died for using drugs/alcahol simply because they didn't mention the cause of death all over the place on the internet
If anybody should feel stupid, it's you. In fact, you should be ashamed of your own ignorance.
I don't know what cave you guys are living in, but there is a huge difference between casual recreational alcohol or drug use and someone who is an alcoholic or drug abuser addict.
It is a fact that many people can and have died the very first time they experimented with a specific drug or from complications due to large amounts of alcohol consumption.
The important positive warning from this tragedy is that no one should drink to get drunk or use any drugs for casual recreational purposes.
Holy red herring...
Personally I don't ever remember reading how she died, just that she did. As to the accusations of drug abuse, if you want to believe that, great, but have some respect.
after 6 or so years, I had to change it a little...
Well you see, we live in different caves
You see, our cave is called "the real world". Your cave is called "Your own little world".
There are some noticable differences between the two.
For instance in "Your own little world", you seem to think that whenever somebody dies and family & friends do not mention the cause of death on the internet, that MUST BE because of drugs or alcahol
In "the real world", people realise that there are many reasons as to why people don't want to mention the cause of death for millions of people to read on the internet, privacy being one of them.
There are more difference ofcourses, "in the real world", some people find it offensive when you accuse someone who passed away as a drug user. in "Your own little world", it's perfectly okay to do that because adding the word "Casual" makes it completely fine.
Here is a word of advice: Don't reply in this thread anymore. You have no idea what you're talking about and you only make yourself look stupid every time you try to defend your flawed "If they don't mention the cause of death, it's because of drug/alcahol use"
*cough* ehem *cough*