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Tired of WOW?
Renoaku
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Why world of warcraft is begining to suck balls.
Reading the upcomming wow patch notes, Having to pay up to 1000G at level 40 Just to buy a dual spec, + paying fees to respect for each one, not allowing glyphs, and crap for each spec you choose, its getting lame, Not to mention what blizzard is doing right now.
Blizzard has completely ruined fire mages from within world of warcraft making them completely useless, They Give Arcane Tree all these Good Godly speed damage buffs that can instantly kill a person, and improves frost tree like almost every path, But Gives fire tree no new spells, and things that would make it more powerful.
Seriously I am kinda getting tired of blizzard doing this kind of crap, Okay this patch we will add 2% this, 5% that, and change this remove this add this talent that does no good, fix this arcane blast so it can no longer be dispelled, which is useless crap.
oh yeah I forgot to mention that You have to pay these gold fees Per Character on the account, How lame is this?
This is what I think Will kill wow over the next few years, or less
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I think there are a lot of people that are tired of WoW, but stick with it because nothing worth while has been released in the last 4 years. I think that is why you see such a huge initial sale number on these new MMOs, but when people see that they are basically a rehashed version of everything WoW already does better, they head back to WoW afterwards. That's not to say that there aren't players that enjoy WoW, I think there are a ton of them. But I also think there are a lot bored with it but can't find anything better to play.
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
You need to learn reading comprehension
1. Yes, it costs a 1 time fee to have dual specs, but they weren't going to allow them til lvl 80. They caved into players demand and are now allowing them at lvl 40. But in reality, most people don't need a dual spec until at least lvl 70. Off-specs can tank/heal almost anything they want up til lvl 80. Heck, I heal heroics in moonkin spec. There is very little need for dual specs before level 80, but it is an option if you want it
2. You don't have to pay any fee to respec.. once you pay the one-time fee, you can switch back and forth between your specs without any charge
3. Once you have pay the one time fee for dual specs, your glyphs change when you switch specs. I'll have my moonkin spec with glyphs, and my restro spec with glyphs. Once I set up the glyphs the first time, those glyphs will always be there
So basically everything you said about dual specs is totally inaccurate, which means your entire post was nothing but crying because your class didn't get enough buffs. Never saw that before.
Doesnt matter level 40 or not, upcomming mmo, that do not require paying 1000G Or tons of in game cash just to respec your character any time you wish, or dual talet, like guild wars kind of, will get an increased ammount of people, as well as the games that dont require 5000G Per Epic Mount Per Character, and then all the grind for gear.
It is just a matter of time before wow is killed out for good, due to the facts blizzard is making many mistakes.
WoW is so vulnerable to competition it is remarkable.
The problem is that developers are litearlly copying and pasting WoW features, slapping new names on lore, changing a bit here and there, and saying, "TA DA! A NEW MMMORPG - come one, come all!"
Well, DEVELOPERS, we want something
Im not really tired of WoW, im actually getting much more tired of the WoW community (atleast on the two different battelgroups I play on).
The majority of WoW players have this mentality that "might is right". By this, I mean they will always praise the people that are the most progressed in raiding or the highest rated in pvp. I guess you cant blame them because there really isn't any other measuring stick to differentiate people, besides achievements. But honestly, im sick and tired of people totally ignoring somebody because he isn't past the 1500 bracket in arena, or hasn't memorized all the strategies for naxx.
Just yesterday, I was in a warsong gulch where 3 people on my side were just standing around, being afk. I told the rest of my team to report them, which only 1 or 2 did. Then, one of the afk players starts bitching at me, calling ME the loser. LOL. I was so pissed. Usually stuff like this doesn't bother me, but I was about to go crazy. Well, I jumped on his motorcycle mount and we rode in circles for a minute so I guess I got even. But it really dampened my whole night, because incidents like this happen more and more. People are so use to them now that they just ignore the AFKers instead of doing something about them.
many are burnt out on WoW. The issue is that they are looking for viable alternatives. Although WoW is still the best PVE game, AoC and WAR are now starting to bite into WOW playerbase
Torrential: DAOC (Pendragon)
Awned: World of Warcraft (Lothar)
Torren: Warhammer Online (Praag)
really? REALLY?
Warhammer and AOC have both closed down about 75% of their servers in less than a year.
How about this for a little known fact. Since WotLK was launched in November, WOW has added more server since that point than AOC and Warhammer have COMBINED in NA right now. And thats just new servers.
People have been predicting the death of WOW for years now.. the fact that WOW has grown from 9.5M subscribers to close to 12M subscribers since AOC and Warhammer have been released says a lot about it's growth.
Don't believe me? Look at any top sellers list for PC games. Forget about the fact that Wrath has been #1 or #2 since November, instead look at where WOW vanilla and WOW battlechest are. Both are in the top 10 STILL in NA.
Yeah, people get tired of WOW and leave.. but there are a crapload of people still buying the original version and just getting started. If I had a nickel for every time someone predicted the 'decline' of WOW, i'd be almost as rich as Blizzard
The issue isn't that there aren't alternatives. It is that WoW players either don't want the alternatives or aren't aware of them.
Guild Wars, for example, is a much better game than WoW.
In your opinion.
Take the least populated MMO out there and there will still be at least one person who thinks it is the greatest ever. To each their own.
I will not leave WoW, I play for 3 years and I will not leave it easy, but I'm really looking for another MMO.
I tried EVE, RF, Perfect World, City of Heroes, UO, Cabal, Project Torque, Carom3D, GW... every game bored.
I will start AoC with WoW today, and stay an eye in Mortal Online, Global Agenda and TERA when it will be released.
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Not really. I've played WOW since close to launch, and there are times when I get bored with it. You know, AOC and Warhammer both had the perfect 'timing' to try and steal people away from WOW. WOW had gotten within 6 months of an expansion and had stopped adding new content. People were really bored during that time, and for good reason.
You know what.. as boring as WOW was without new content, playing AOC and Warhammer was a chore. AOC barely entertained people for 2 weeks... by the end of the free period, over half the people quit. Warhammer did a better job, but not by much.
The fact that so many people did try AOC and Warhammer shows that people were well aware of those games. The fact that both games have closed down 75% of their servers shows you that WOW is a much better game.
Guild wars isn't really a MMORPG. There just is not enough persistence, it feels more like playing COD.
I played all GW titles, really, its a beautiful game, but the difficult to make a full human party and get high end do this game bored.
Haves many limitations, no professions, only microquests - loots - pvp and loop.
Ivan Carlos
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Cell.: +55 (11) 8112-0666
I'm bored with WoW. Sub ran out this month.
Played enough to get 4 characters to 80 with alts in 70 60 50 range while raiding everything from MC to Naxx 25.
The most viable option for me that I see is actually Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
Problem is the skeleton dev crew running it and the decisions that have/will be implemented since $OE took over.
Crafting: why? Faction or grinding will get me better stuff.
Adventure: Population isnt the best once you get off the Island to find groups for dungouns etc.
and now with the soon to be introduction of RMT via LiveGamer, why bother.
such such potential with this game.... it could have been the next best semi-sandbox since classic UO but fell on its face hard an can't seem to pick itself back up.
Just my opinion though.
I quit WoW over a year ago and havn't looked back, sure it took me some time but it happened...funny how some of you are behind the rest of us....this thread makes me feel like it's 2006 again....lol
You feel WoW is bad because you need to pay 1k gold for dual spec. Well 1k gold is trivial, you can earn that in less than a week casually doing some dailies, harvesting or what not. That pays for the one off dual spec. You have to pay 1k for each alt, each alt will then earn its own 1k. Not very odd an arrangement. Come on, a lvl 200 epic easily cost 1k. Every alt of mine have earn the achievement of earning 10k from quest rewards alone. So earning 1k for an alt is not an issue.
You need to pay to respec now, it cost as much as 50g now per respec. After paying 1k one off, which is just the cost of 20 respecs now, you can respec in the future for a lot less than 50g. That is business. If you respec a lot, like some of the tanks in my guild, they welcome the option, AN OPTION. I never respec my fire mage, so I won't pick that option for my mage.
Dual spec is an option, with known costs, and there are already many discussions on who can gain from it, and who won't. Its not a mandatory taxation of 1k gold. You do not need to buy it.
As for the argument that fire mage sux, go elitistjerk.com. Fire mage does not sux, it just lost it once unmatched burst damage, as Blizz now makes arcane and even frost somewhat viable. Frankly frost is almost not viable since Wotlk for raid purpose, aka frostfire. It works as a levelling spec only.
If WoW will die b/c of a new option that cost 1k gold ingame, WoW is already dead, as many mounts cost way over 1k. Actually the vendor mount cost 15k? 18K? I forgot.
If WoW will die b/c it nerf fire mage (in your view), WoW is already dead with its massive ret paly nerf after the initial wotlk launch.
You are tired b/c Blizz is microtuning the classes for balance. What do you expect from Blizz with patches? I do welcome the continual effort of Blizz to monitor the game and try to improve overall gameplay, even tho it does hurt some of my alts. What do I do? play a few alts, or respec them out of the tree I feel nerfed. Or, learn to live with it. I hate it when CoH is no longer spammable. Holy priest were once unmatched till they run out of mana, now they need to plan a bit more.
Find a new excuse to suggest why WoW is doing to die, and give us a time frame how long before that is coming. I know WoW will die before the earth stops spinning. That I know is true.
Its an exercise in control and moderation.
Some people need to quit WoW to control their own life, to them WoW is as addictive as drugs. I do not. I log on only when I want to play, not need to. Even if I go online, WoW is not a must. I do not dream about WoW, nor do I need to attend any specific raid schedules b/c its organised.
I am the kind of semi soloist, lone wolf. I log on and start wondering what to do next, without a schedule in mind. So my progression is not the best, but my sanity stays with me.
Well face it, WoW is on it's way to becoming a classic like UO or EQ, sure it's still as big as i's ever been, but it's age is showing, especially to those of us that just don't get that fresh new feeling like we did back in late 04 early 05 no matter how many xpacs they release.
But then again, there's always new blood, and that's why I can't help but to lol a bit from all the new kids that still seem to be coming out of the wood works talking about WoW like they're mentioning or commenting on something that hasn't been done already.
First whether WoW is going to die like UO or EQ its hard to tell. During the peak, no one can imagine how fast EQ will fade. When I was playing DAoC, I got the feeling that it will go strong, then comes ToA. The death of SWG comes so sudden, I was on business trip for a few months, my sub cancelled, and when I got home for vacation, my neighbor told me the game is dead.
Who knows how WoW will die, and when.
But to lol at new kids? why? They found a game they enjoy, good for them. You have your share of fun and you moved on, good. There is no conflict there, no superiority. What is there to laugh at? When you were a kid you enjoyed your hours in the children playground you grew up. The next generation comes and took over the playground. You feel the need to laugh at them? Or, they might be laughing in their own terms, "old man, move along".
First whether WoW is going to die like UO or EQ its hard to tell. During the peak, no one can imagine how fast EQ will fade. When I was playing DAoC, I got the feeling that it will go strong, then comes ToA. The death of SWG comes so sudden, I was on business trip for a few months, my sub cancelled, and when I got home for vacation, my neighbor told me the game is dead.
Who knows how WoW will die, and when.
But to lol at new kids? why? They found a game they enjoy, good for them. You have your share of fun and you moved on, good. There is no conflict there, no superiority. What is there to laugh at? When you were a kid you enjoyed your hours in the children playground you grew up. The next generation comes and took over the playground. You feel the need to laugh at them? Or, they might be laughing in their own terms, "old man, move along".
Just because WoW is becoming a classic doesn't mean it will die out, Mario is a classic icon amongst gamers and he still hasn't died out after over 25years.
UO and EQ were no where near as popular as WoW but they were classics, WoW is becoming a classic MMO of it's own.
Now games dieing out on a personal level for a gamer...well that's a totally different story.
;P
I can't help but wonder, why do you exactly lol at these kids?
'Most powerful is he who controls his own power.'
I can't help but wonder, why do you exactly lol at these kids?
Well maybe kids isn't the right word since some might even be older than me...lol
But, I use to be addicted to the game, I use to be in that same purdicament, time past and I moved on. You know how they say "one day we'll look back and laugh" well that's what's happening here.
It's like graduated from high school then seeing your younger brother stomp into the house complainning he's got detention for the next 2weeks....=P
I loved Wow for a few years but have moved on. I can't see myself returning to it and have found great people and fun that doesn't require the time sink that WOW did in AOC. I think it's a great starter MMo though.