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If you hate WoW but are to much of a wimp for Darkfall read this
masterbbb26
Member Posts: 181
Hello
I have been playing TCOS for 2 weeks and loving it. I cant believe there are not more people like me
Im SICK of WoW.......im so sick of it, it angers me. RAWR! WoW reminds me of a facebook game my mother plays where you hit eggs with hammers and the eggs give you more hammers........and that is it.....nothing more. One day when i was playing WoW with my level 75DK something occured to me.........WoW is just like that hammer egg game! i puked a little in my mouth and deleted the game righ there. WoW is uber easy and so repetitive that i just couldnt take it anymore
anywho back to spellborn, It is perfect for someone like me who is SICK of WoW. But isnt hardcore enough to play games like Darkfall which quite honestly sound less fun then WoW but that is completely personal preference.
Why TCOS is perfect for me
All armor and clothes and weapons are completly cosemetic. You can grind for rare armor if you want but there is absolutly no need to do it! and if you are grinding for armor you do it on your terms for armor that you like the look of. No more grinding the same armor every other elite player is wearing just to compete. Its so refeshing to play a game like this. Im actually never going to go back to stats on armor and weapons ever again. Now there are sigils in the game that attach to your armor and weapons but there stats are very minimal and are not required to be competitive in the game.
The crafting system is perfect imho. You dont have to choose one kind proffesion and go on the boring as hell track to max level in your one proffesion. in TCOS you collect materials which there are ALOT of different kinds. And you get recipes for armor and sigils and you use the materials to make it. Its that simple and easy! there are no leveling proffesions, no special tools needed you just walk up to plants and pieces of rock and gather materials. its perfect.
The combat is alot of fun too. My fingers do not hurt from spamming 3 buttons. You have to dodge attacks or you die. The skills deck is perfect so you dont have to spam buttons. You just use your mouse and move with "wads" and thats it.
Quests are fun after lvl 10 (before it is really boring i have to admit) the story is great and the quests are very well done. And no more handholding! which i love. you are given the info for the quest sometimes very vague info and you have to actually figure it out! no more following a green arrow! some of the quest lines are the best i have seen in a game yet. warning though still alot of kill X and find Y. nothing really groundbreaking here. just solid quests with a solid story line. No more not giving a rats behind about the story! cough* WoW
there are a bunch of guilds to join and its free to level 7 so come try it out if you are sick of the horrible boring snorefest that is WoW but you are too chickensh** for Darkfall.
Currently Playing: Fallen Earth
Played and liked: TCOS, Vanguard, Guild Wars, DDO
Played and didn't like: CO, MO, STO, DF, AoC, WAR, WoW, EQ2, EVE, most f2p
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, Secret World
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scratches his head* didnt see that one coming! im sure i wont be able to convince you that i dont work for the company but maybe if i tell you whats wrong with the game you will believe me lol
no mounts - walking everywhere is slow and kind of sucks
AH is badly made
mob AI can be bad sometimes
No bank to store your stuff (your inventory is huge though)
no hearth or teleportation to get back to town which sucks
thats all i can think of right now
i cant beleive i sounded like an advertisment lol
Currently Playing: Fallen Earth
Played and liked: TCOS, Vanguard, Guild Wars, DDO
Played and didn't like: CO, MO, STO, DF, AoC, WAR, WoW, EQ2, EVE, most f2p
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, Secret World
This thread is so random
man you guys are harsh jeez is there any mmo communities that dont rip apart new members posts? no matter how "odd" they are?
Currently Playing: Fallen Earth
Played and liked: TCOS, Vanguard, Guild Wars, DDO
Played and didn't like: CO, MO, STO, DF, AoC, WAR, WoW, EQ2, EVE, most f2p
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, Secret World
i was sick of warcraft too which is why the age of conan free trail was so welcome , i ve found it to be a much improved game . perhaps when darkfall stops being a paid beta and is advanced enough to offer a free trial i ll give it a go sometime , untill then i ll leave it to the fanbois . had my fingers burnt too many times now . it would have to have huge amounts of possitive feedback about a game for me to buy it without a trial . most of what i ve read about darkfall has been pretty negative at present .
my computer cant run AoC
stupid old computer!
Currently Playing: Fallen Earth
Played and liked: TCOS, Vanguard, Guild Wars, DDO
Played and didn't like: CO, MO, STO, DF, AoC, WAR, WoW, EQ2, EVE, most f2p
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, Secret World
not like any of you care BUT all i was trying to get at was on the carebear scale of mmo's WoW is at one end and Darkfall is at the other and smack dab in the middle is TCOS
the end
Currently Playing: Fallen Earth
Played and liked: TCOS, Vanguard, Guild Wars, DDO
Played and didn't like: CO, MO, STO, DF, AoC, WAR, WoW, EQ2, EVE, most f2p
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, Secret World
Im not a wimp i just dont have enough time to put in a game that wants you to be invovled in it 24/7. This is why almost every mmo fails.
I don't know about WoW or Darkfall, that's your opinion, but as for TCoS, yer I pretty much agree, the game gets alot more in depth passed level 10, I'm really starting get in thralled in the house quest's, no I don't think your post comes across as an advert, just as someone that likes and plays, don't listern to those other idoits, you gotta have a thick skin if you want to keep posting on mmorpg.com, just stick to your gun's.
the whole "wimp" darkfall thing was just a joke
ha....ha funny?
i gues not
Currently Playing: Fallen Earth
Played and liked: TCOS, Vanguard, Guild Wars, DDO
Played and didn't like: CO, MO, STO, DF, AoC, WAR, WoW, EQ2, EVE, most f2p
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, Secret World
Every time I look into TCOS many people are playing it, but it's not available in the US yet. I just don't care anymore.
ummm im in the US of A and im playing it. And im on an NA server. so i believe you are incorrect
Currently Playing: Fallen Earth
Played and liked: TCOS, Vanguard, Guild Wars, DDO
Played and didn't like: CO, MO, STO, DF, AoC, WAR, WoW, EQ2, EVE, most f2p
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, Secret World
I don't really understand how not playing darkfall makes someone a sissy. First off most people don't play it not because of the full loot system its because the game is realitivily low quality. Also since MO comes out this year and has promised much of what darkfall originally did but with decent graphics and a whole new take on first person play.
Also I do like chronicles its pretty fun.
TCoS has been available in the US as Open Beta since mid-way through March.
No, because the fanbois actually mean it when they say it, so hard to tell sarcasm in this case from fanboi feelings of uberism because they are hardcore enough to play a buggy game with little content and you are not.
As for Spellborn, it's an item mall right?
no TCOS is pay to play with no item mall.
nope not item mall.......its free to play until level 7.9 then you have to pay using this god awful method of buying acclaim coins and then using them to gain access to the rest of the game.......thank god paying monthly by credit card is coming soon. it will be 15 a month........which i can understand if people think this is too much money to pay for a small studio's game.
Currently Playing: Fallen Earth
Played and liked: TCOS, Vanguard, Guild Wars, DDO
Played and didn't like: CO, MO, STO, DF, AoC, WAR, WoW, EQ2, EVE, most f2p
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, Secret World
Haha! Great post and I thought the title was clever as well. I think you're right about being too much of a wimp to play Darkfall. I mean, I like the idea of PvP in Darkfall, but am not interested in the PvE because it sounds second rate compared to TCoS. I'm also not interested in macroing magic skills all night long shooting into the sky.
I agree with most everything you said. I played WoW for years and as good as it was, I'm beyond being burnt out on it. I don't even want to think about it anymore! I don't even like games that remind me of it.
As for TCoS I am enjoying the hell out of it. I considered a return to CoX, but after trying it again the combat seems clunky compared to TCoS. I considered a return to DDO, but even in the new module there are 4 new dungeons and one raid for the level 16-20 content. Its a sick joke Turbine played on the fans of that game.
Vanguard - combat reminds me too much of WoW
WAR - just like WoW, but with better PvP
AoC - WoW with a simon says combat minigame
TCoS - Great combat system, great AI, and a new unique style of game world.
Don't let them get to you, OP. A fan of a game is automatically assumed to be a shill on these forums....that or a blind fanboi.
Spellborn isn't perfect, but it's about as close as the MMORPG industry has gotten in many years.
To chime in here: No, there's no damn item mall in Spellborn. Yes, it's available in the US. There are both PVE and PVP servers, with plenty of PVP on the PVE server.
It is not a loot grind...in fact, items have no stats. It has an FPS targeting system, so you can actively dodge the enemie's attacks. The AI is a little too damn good sometimes...beware of back-stabs, being kited, and beware of certain mobs using combos to destroy your health bar in little more than a second.
Lots of story, very immersive, and fun as Hell.
It has bad points, but most of them are symptoms of a new game, and will be addressedin the near future, so I can bear with them for now.
Unfortunately, there is little to no advertising campaign for this gem of a game, and so I can understand why some fans would want to post positive thtreads like this....more players would certainly be a good thing. Population's pretty good, but can always be better.
Actually, I would argue that SB is more 'hardcore' then DF in a few ways, bearing in mind that I actually really like DF as a game and fully support indie Devs. I am not a DF hater, infact quite the opposite. I loved what DF promised to be, and it's potentiol is mind blowing.
The fact is that the only death penalty in DF is gear, and that gear is easy to get and replace once looted. DF's death penalty is painless, especially for the big guilds with banks rammed full of easily obtained gear.
Thats when people, as most do, don't run naked.
So... DF PvP has a 'hardcore' death penalty? Nah, not at all. It even allows you to that that death penalty off...
DF combat really comes down to 1 ranged attack, 1 melee attack, around 3 magic skills, with no skill or knowledge required in their set up. Take a look at SBs skill/ tumbler system and tell me what requires the most knowledge and skill to set up and use.
Most DF players have AFK macroed their skills up to be the 'best'... I mean.. How 'hardcore' is that?
The game is rotten with hakers, exploiters, and unattended macroers.. In fact the most 'hardcore' players of that game have done everything possible to make the game as ez mode as possible. They HATE an level playing field where they can't rely on cheats to give them an edge. If you dare to say this, they will defend this by calling you a QQer, all the while not seeing that they are destroying the thing they claim to love. Cheating is the new L337.
Sure SB's PvP system is embryonic right now (to be addressed in the next patch), so the PvP has no consequence right now, but it's PvE death penalty PeP system (easy to lose, hard to get) makes SB a far harsher game to die in then DF.
You can't take PeP off to make that dangerous run...
The point is, I guess, I am not playing DF right now because it's fans have done everything they can to ruin it by cheating. Sure, some don't, and those that post will of course insist that they have never cheated in their lives, but too many do to make that game feel like fun.
DF too hardcore? Well only if you call getting rolled by speedhakers 3 times in one week hardcore...
hehe no, not at all Gold.
Most of the most 'successful' MMOs (not necessarily in terms of sub base, to be clear, I mean games like EQ, EVE, DAoC etc) have required huge investments of time... I don't think anyone would have accused these of 'failing'...
In fact, most would say EQ, for instance, only started to 'fail' when it started to chase the casual lite crowd with EZ mode solo play.
In fact, if you look at the games that have 'failed' (TR, AoC, WAR, etc) they have squarely aimed themselves at the casual crowd, so I'm not sure what that does to your statement :P
Yes and no I think EQ1 failed when they upped the time requirements to silly levels in Planes of Power and later, that lost them a ton of regular players. Later attempts to fix it has been to late. As for WAR, AoC and so on they all clamed to be something they where not as I understand it both where lacking in content while claiming to be casual friendly. Now that is a pet peeve of mine, most grown up casual players want to be able to logg in and play for 2 - 3 hours and do something that feels important, doable and challenging,it can certainly be hardcore if hardcore is not defined as horrible timesinks. I have found SB so far to be very good for me as it has challenging and interesting quests that is doable in a shorter amount of time. SB is not easy mode far from it and in its own little way much more hardcore than a lot of other things out there. I still think EQ2 is more complete but SB has other advantages, SB is certainly not for everyone but it is not a LEET game for the harcore (mental) teenagers.
Chi puo dir com'egli arde é in picciol fuoco.
He who can describe the flame does not burn.
Petrarch
Yes and no I think EQ1 failed when they upped the time requirements to silly levels in Planes of Power and later, that lost them a ton of regular players. Later attempts to fix it has been to late. As for WAR, AoC and so on they all clamed to be something they where not as I understand it both where lacking in content while claiming to be casual friendly. Now that is a pet peeve of mine, most grown up casual players want to be able to logg in and play for 2 - 3 hours and do something that feels important, doable and challenging,it can certainly be hardcore if hardcore is not defined as horrible timesinks. I have found SB so far to be very good for me as it has challenging and interesting quests that is doable in a shorter amount of time. SB is not easy mode far from it and in its own little way much more hardcore than a lot of other things out there. I still think EQ2 is more complete but SB has other advantages, SB is certainly not for everyone but it is not a LEET game for the harcore (mental) teenagers.
Fair answer, though I remember camping one part of the Aegis of Life in pre-PoP EQ for something like 11 hours straight, and that wasnt the only thing either. The game was full of insane camps and the like that took HOURS to complete, and that once you had started you couldnt leave lol. The queue alone in those days to get into a PGT group alone for instance could be an hour or two...
EQ was always a demanding mistress, way before raiding became the main focus
But I think your right though... The devs of SB seemed to have realised that 'casual' dose not have to mean 'easy', somehting that AoC never got. Even casual gamers want a challenge, or at least most do I think.
They seem to have hit on the holy grail of an enjoyably challenging game that you can play in smaller chunks and not feel you are being left behind in... Maybe the first one I have personally played that manages it tbh.
you have not played SB....or many MMOs if this is what you think of SB
The things you mention are the real "carebear" points of MMOs
It takes no time to walk or run anywhere in most MMOs....let alone SB. And the AI is far above most
If you want your hand held through most MMOs....there's services out there for you
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
lol wow really? you think if a game has linear boring gameplay, easy no brainer quests and linear AI and mindless combat its not caebear. But if they make the simple act of movement trhough the game easier and make the trading system better its carebear? thats seems odd to me. i dont know what you have been smoking but you have what makes a game carebear alllll wrong.
Currently Playing: Fallen Earth
Played and liked: TCOS, Vanguard, Guild Wars, DDO
Played and didn't like: CO, MO, STO, DF, AoC, WAR, WoW, EQ2, EVE, most f2p
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, Secret World